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9 minutes ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

nobody is proposing building a 20 story tower along Walnut or Main in OTR. However a 7-8 story building could blend nicely into the urban fabric

 

They should.  The American Building is 18 stories.

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    The Smithall building at the Northwest corner of Vine and W. Clifton is looking good with the plywood first floor removed and new windows installed 

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Not only does it blend well with surroundings buildings but also helps reactivate a part of Central Parkway that otherwise is a dead zone for pedestrians.  

4 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

 

They should.  The American Building is 18 stories.

Would love to see something similar to the new condo tower in Mini. Maybe not as tall but something in the 250-350ft range would blend in well with the surrounding high rises along Central Parkway and would be similar to the American Building. 

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11 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

 

They should.  The American Building is 18 stories.

They should, and it would certainly be much easier to do along Central if someone wanted to do that. 
While I would not have a problem with it, and think it would look pretty cool, I think the neighborhood activists would Sh*t their pants if someone tried to build an 20 story tower on 15th and Main or Walnut. 

Main and Central Parkway would seem like a great location for a building of similar height to the American Building.

Photos from a walk on the first non-freezing and non-rainy day in a while. The new Findlay Market garage gives really nice views over OTR:

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Model Group has started installing windows and doing facade work at the corner of Vine and McMicken, 3CDC's buildings still have holes or plywood. Not sure how I feel about the brick infill on the first floor, I guess I assumed that whole first floor would remain storefront but I'm sure there's a restroom or stair/shear wall behind that made it necessary. 

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23 minutes ago, ucgrady said:

Model Group has started installing windows and doing facade work at the corner of Vine and McMicken, 3CDC's buildings still have holes or plywood. Not sure how I feel about the brick infill on the first floor, I guess I assumed that whole first floor would remain storefront but I'm sure there's a restroom or stair/shear wall behind that made it necessary. 

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Probably the original design or close to it. The other side of the building has similar details. I believe these are HTC projects so they would have had gone to great lengths to build a wall where storefront was before.

 

https://maps.app.goo.gl/oJyp5pFLCcu7dBBF6

 

On 1/26/2024 at 1:40 PM, mcmicken said:

Probably the original design or close to it. The other side of the building has similar details. I believe these are HTC projects so they would have had gone to great lengths to build a wall where storefront was before.

 

https://maps.app.goo.gl/oJyp5pFLCcu7dBBF6

 

 

Especially excited to see this one get painted and reoccupied. It's been an eyesore for decades and is a highly visible gateway into OTR.

Was a beautiful day to walk around OTR and take some development photos. 

 

1st: Hueber homes along Elm just north of Music Hall. 

2nd: Renovation along Elm just north of the Hueber homes.

 
3rd: Back of Liberty and Elm. 
4th: Logan Commons

 

5th:  Liberty and Elm part that's along Central Parkway

 

6th: Liberty and Elm part that’s along Liberty. 

 

7th: Infill apartment building along Pleasant st.

 

8th. Fotofocus

 

Some takeaways imo:

 

 Liberty and Elm is going to be pretty prominent and I’m thankful this was able to get going with all the sh*t it had to go through. 

 

Logan Commons taking up a parking lot will hopefully show how much better buildings are than parking lots (Looking at you parking lots along Liberty). 
 

The infill along Pleasant street doesn’t take up the whole lot (assuming the other portion is for parking). As excited I am to see this take up vacant land, I wish they didn’t include parking. 
 

Walking down Race from Findlay Market there was an abundance of just trash everywhere. I don’t know if they need to put trash cans along this stretch of what but it’s getting crazy. 

 

Walking past people I noticed many different languages and it felt great hearing this and really makes Cincy feel more like a worldly city. 
 

Even though we complain about Cincy nimbys and we for sure still need too, I’m just glad to live in an affordable city with this kind of neighborhood. 

 

 


 

 

 

 

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19 hours ago, Ucgrad2015 said:

The infill along Pleasant street doesn’t take up the whole lot (assuming the other portion is for parking). As excited I am to see this take up vacant land, I wish they didn’t include parking. 

 

There's a 30' wide empty parcel to the south owned by a different entity, so I'm not sure what plans (if any) exist for that site: https://wedge.hcauditor.org/view/re/0810002030900/2023/summary

 

The new building does have some onsite parking, accessed by a 10' wide driveway between the new building and the neighbor to the north. The ground floor has a retail space, so the parking will not be very visible from the sidewalk. 

 

The developers presented to the OTR Community Council in April 2023, and the video of their presentation is on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/otrcommunitycouncil/videos/944268660147797

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Over-the-Rhine pushes for 15th Street near its business district to be converted to one-way

By Chris Wetterich – Staff reporter and columnist, Cincinnati Business Courier

Feb 20, 2024

 

Over-the-Rhine’s leadership wants the city to convert 15th Street between Walnut Street and the busy Vine Street business district from two-way traffic to one-way traffic, citing safety concerns.

 

Fifteenth Street has roughly three lanes with street parking on both sides. Residents and stakeholders have complained that cars have to weave in between parked cars in order to pass through or back up onto Walnut or Vine away from oncoming cars when trying to turn.

 

As a result, the city proposed converting 15th Street between Walnut and Vine streets to one way, with traffic traveling westbound.

 

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4 hours ago, The_Cincinnati_Kid said:

cars have to weave in between parked cars in order to pass through

 

Strange that slowing auto traffic on city streets is being positioned as a negative?

1 hour ago, taestell said:

 

Strange that slowing auto traffic on city streets is being positioned as a negative?


To their credit, they are saying that people have to go into reverse all the way down the street to allow someone to pass and that is bad for safety at the intersections, which makes sense I guess but...can't they just fix that by removing a few parking spaces so there is a spot for people to pull-over?

It's a narrow segmented street. I don't really care if it's one-way. This isn't a major thoroughfare, it's only a block long, so speeding isn't as big of a concern IMO.

3 hours ago, taestell said:

 

Strange that slowing auto traffic on city streets is being positioned as a negative?

I don't think anybody made that argument. At least when it came up with the community council, the only concerns raised were making the opposite argument (making it one-way could speed up traffic). But as @ryanlammi points out, it's a short block. 

 

2 hours ago, Dev said:

To their credit, they are saying that people have to go into reverse all the way down the street to allow someone to pass and that is bad for safety at the intersections, which makes sense I guess but...can't they just fix that by removing a few parking spaces so there is a spot for people to pull-over?

 

If parking were removed on one side of the street, it could work as two-way. The curb-to-curb distance is about ~23' or ~24', which I think even the most strident safety advocates would agree is not wide enough for two parking lanes and two travel lanes.

 

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16 hours ago, jwulsin said:

If parking were removed on one side of the street, it could work as two-way. The curb-to-curb distance is about ~23' or ~24', which I think even the most strident safety advocates would agree is not wide enough for two parking lanes and two travel lanes.


I noticed that as well, but I know the city's standard for lane widths is 10' for a travel lane and 8' for a parking lane, which gets you to 28' for 2+1. I'm wondering if a residential shared street or a commercial shared street is the counter offer, but it's clear no one is willing to fight to reduce public parking capacity in the neighborhood so here we are.

Took some photos while walking around Findlay today. 

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Man, this corner of OTR is so rapidly going from being filled with surface parking to having zero surface parking. I love to see it.

On 2/25/2024 at 8:10 AM, jmicha said:

Man, this corner of OTR is so rapidly going from being filled with surface parking to having zero surface parking. I love to see it.

Will prolly become the most dense block in OTR after it’s all complete. 

Really building up in that area and with FC development coming, Central Parkway is humming!

 

I didn't really expect the development to happen this way 10 years ago, I was expecting more of a march up to Findlay Market (which obviously is happening and this is a part of) and then up Vine Street (which is happening too though slower than I imagined).

 

I wonder how much the FC development will jump start development North of Liberty in OTR and possibly the West End proper north of Liberty too? Any thoughts?

38 minutes ago, IAGuy39 said:

Really building up in that area and with FC development coming, Central Parkway is humming!

 

I didn't really expect the development to happen this way 10 years ago, I was expecting more of a march up to Findlay Market (which obviously is happening and this is a part of) and then up Vine Street (which is happening too though slower than I imagined).

 

I wonder how much the FC development will jump start development North of Liberty in OTR and possibly the West End proper north of Liberty too? Any thoughts?

 

Could be pretty interesting if the streetcar gets expanded through the West End and some bigger developments happen along Central or even the two historic schools on Dayton Street/Bank Street. 

 

I'm curious where Model Group will target next after Vine/McMicken/Findlay. Probably more development around Rhinegeist and W. McMicken if I had to guess. The Hanna Playground/Mohawk area seems ripe.

2 hours ago, Miami-Erie said:

 

Could be pretty interesting if the streetcar gets expanded through the West End and some bigger developments happen along Central or even the two historic schools on Dayton Street/Bank Street. 

 

I'm curious where Model Group will target next after Vine/McMicken/Findlay. Probably more development around Rhinegeist and W. McMicken if I had to guess. The Hanna Playground/Mohawk area seems ripe.

Especially if the Streetcar goes past Mohawk I feel that area is really cool but in bad shape, it would be an awesome urban area, looks mostly vacant.

11 hours ago, IAGuy39 said:

Really building up in that area and with FC development coming, Central Parkway is humming!

 

The FC stuff is vaporware.  The stadium decision was made in 2017 and the only thing FC has done is torn down its surroundings. 

 

 

On 2/26/2024 at 10:10 AM, Ucgrad2015 said:

Will prolly become the most dense block in OTR after it’s all complete. 

 

 

This apartment development could have been complete by now, or at least nearing completion, if not for the frivolous obstructionism of OTR Adopt, etc. 

 

 

 

 

7 hours ago, Lazarus said:

 

The FC stuff is vaporware.  The stadium decision was made in 2017 and the only thing FC has done is torn down its surroundings. 

 

 

 

 

This apartment development could have been complete by now, or at least nearing completion, if not for the frivolous obstructionism of OTR Adopt, etc. 

 

 

 

 

While bringing thousand of people into OTR, helping countless businesses near the stadium. Fast tracking a Central Parkway redevelopment that prolly wouldn’t even be on the radar if it wasn’t for the stadium.
 

Yes it sucks that some buildings were torn down but a decent amount of the land was a stadium. The old ballet building with the tri state wholesale couldn’t really be used for anything else other than office and the pandemic basically killed that proposal. 
 

Yes it could have been completed already but at least it’s actually getting built. 

8 hours ago, Lazarus said:

 

The FC stuff is vaporware.  The stadium decision was made in 2017 and the only thing FC has done is torn down its surroundings. 

 

 

 

 

This apartment development could have been complete by now, or at least nearing completion, if not for the frivolous obstructionism of OTR Adopt, etc. 

 

 

 

 

Despite how much you hate the team the FCC development will 100% happen.  They, like every other business, are just getting as much money/abatements as possible before starting it.  

On 1/21/2024 at 8:39 PM, ucnum1 said:

New development proposed from Geis for central and vine.111 units total 2 7 story building commercial space as well.

 

Art Academy seems to be looking into to converting the streets around their campus into pedestrian access only with programming.

 

All here from OTRCC January meeting if you want kill a hour.

 

https://www.facebook.com/100077735353311/posts/390490550218787/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

 

Any word on this? 

6 minutes ago, zsnyder said:

"this video isn't available any more" for me.

Above my pay grade but you I think need a FB account and or to follow OTR Community Councils Page to view.Thier page is the only video link available to view.You can read the monthly minutes on their site when it is published as well 

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Construction on the flatiron building at 1820 Vine (Model Group) continues. New paint (they're starting on the Vine St facade), new windows, and restored storefront. I'm curious to see what they do with the old sign (partially obscured by the utility pole). 

 

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21 hours ago, jwulsin said:

Construction at 1400 Walnut (Google streetview for "before" comparison) is coming along nicely:

 

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Nice upgrade there!

 

I wish at some point that Walnut Street could get the Vine Street treatment of burying utilities and streetscape improvements.

18 minutes ago, IAGuy39 said:

I wish at some point that Walnut Street could get the Vine Street treatment of burying utilities and streetscape improvements.

 

Agreed. South of 14th, Walnut does have underground utilities and nice streetscape. But north of 14th, it's all above ground and the sidewalks are in rough shape with no street trees. Makes for a very stark contrast as you cross 14th.  

 

I've recently noticed how nice and large the street trees are on the 1300-block of Walnut, so I was curious to see how old they are. I was surprised to learn they were only planted about 10 years ago in 2014/2015. It's an impressive transformation in the last decade!

 

July 2014 streetview (pre-streetscape improvements): https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1108224,-84.5137296,3a,75y,354.33h,86.76t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sBTkwVSvFQmyxlJRfcn0kpg!2e0!5s20140701T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu

July 2022 streetview: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1108349,-84.5137697,3a,75y,354.33h,86.76t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1shWE-QgAuDlcj3fFrsbwltg!2e0!5s20220701T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

 

22 hours ago, jwulsin said:

 

Agreed. South of 14th, Walnut does have underground utilities and nice streetscape. But north of 14th, it's all above ground and the sidewalks are in rough shape with no street trees. Makes for a very stark contrast as you cross 14th.  

 

I've recently noticed how nice and large the street trees are on the 1300-block of Walnut, so I was curious to see how old they are. I was surprised to learn they were only planted about 10 years ago in 2014/2015. It's an impressive transformation in the last decade!

 

July 2014 streetview (pre-streetscape improvements): https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1108224,-84.5137296,3a,75y,354.33h,86.76t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sBTkwVSvFQmyxlJRfcn0kpg!2e0!5s20140701T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu

July 2022 streetview: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1108349,-84.5137697,3a,75y,354.33h,86.76t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1shWE-QgAuDlcj3fFrsbwltg!2e0!5s20220701T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

 

Huge difference!

 

Those look like honey locusts, nice shade trees!

12 minutes ago, IAGuy39 said:

Those look like honey locusts, nice shade trees!

Pretty sure all of the trees on the 1300 block of Walnut are elm trees. 

Here is an update on Fotofocus. Please don't flame me for the terrible video I know I am bad at this drone video thing. But, I'm a little gunshy after running my Mini 2 into the Salem Church Steeple at the 67 foot mark. At least this Mini 4 Pro has collision avoidance. Still bad video.

 

 

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Thanks for sharing. It's incredible to me how still the drone video is 

well, we didn't get to see the landing. hope all is well.   nice vid.

Thanks for the video. Definitely a huge upgrade to that corner.

On 3/15/2024 at 11:17 AM, jwulsin said:

Pretty sure all of the trees on the 1300 block of Walnut are elm trees. 

Are the trees on Elm street walnut trees? 

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And where are the vines on Vine Street?

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Logan Commons is popping out of the ground quick. Across the street the parking garage is nearly complete with the metal facade being installed and all the storefront in place on the retail portions. 

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Couple update photos from my walk around OTR today. 

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1716, 1718, and 1720 Republic are under renovation with new windows recently installed. Good to see these little homes get some love.

 

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This is probably a big ask, but does anyone have a map or list of the newest infill projects that have wrapped up in OTR over the past 3-4 years? I was wandering around yesterday for the first time in a while and I realized that I've completely lost track of most developments in the neighborhood!

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On 4/1/2024 at 11:55 AM, Ucgrad2015 said:

https://www.wvxu.org/local-news/2023-12-22/judge-dismisses-lawsuit-challenging-permanent-supportive-housing-over-the-rhine
 

Any news on 2000 Dunlop street? Supposed to be 4 floors of 44 apartments for people experiencing homelessness. Was proposed late in 2022 and passed but then a lawsuit was filed against it and was dismissed. They had till mid January to file an appeal but not sure if that happened or not. 

 

Some neighbors are still suing to stop the project. Likely not to succeed, but continues to delay start of construction.

Looks like the Friday & Saturday night Main Street parking restriction is going back in effect.

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Rhinegeist has scaffolding along Elm St and appears to be replacing the windows on the first floor (which is a few steps above street level). Anybody know what the plans are for that level?

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