October 3, 2024Oct 3 6 minutes ago, Dev said: They are, that's what the flex parking is. IIRC residents can park in those spots 24/7, while visitors can pay to park in those zones from 9 am to 5 pm. Oh, nice. Is that happening south of Liberty too?
October 3, 2024Oct 3 ^It is currently like that on certain streets ( I noticed it on 14th St at Washington Park), but not on side streets like Republic and Pleasant.
October 3, 2024Oct 3 On 8/29/2024 at 10:55 AM, Pdrome513 said: There’s a project already planned for the Crossroads site, but not from 3CDC. More to come in a few months I’d guess. I was wrong on this, turns out. The development referenced to me is actually the one below, hope to have more on it soon. No idea about the Crossroads site.
October 3, 2024Oct 3 2 hours ago, ucgrady said: We don't have to worry about this building being ugly anymore anyway, they are painting it Joanna Gaines white, so it's all good. Here's the proposed mural: Edited October 3, 2024Oct 3 by Miami-Erie
October 3, 2024Oct 3 1 hour ago, Miami-Erie said: Oh, nice. Is that happening south of Liberty too? There are no changes to the rest of OTR as part of this legislation. Southern OTR is already a Special Parking Permit Area, this is just making northern OTR be its own area as well. The map of the existing area is on the Parking Division's website. EDIT: Also, the hiring of more parking enforcement officers is complete so it'll be interesting how quickly they will be able to respond to the implementation. Edited October 3, 2024Oct 3 by Dev
October 3, 2024Oct 3 Seems odd that they'd paint a mural now, given that Crossroad is planning to move into a new facility and this building will likely be torn down within 5 years.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 Author Urban Sites, Triversity plan $33M mixed-use development in OTR that includes former German bar By Brian Planalp – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier Oct 7, 2024 Updated Oct 7, 2024 8:24am EDT A Cincinnati developer and construction firm are planning a large mixed-use development in Over-the-Rhine. The Lockhart, a $33.4 million effort from co-developers Urban Sites and Triversity Construction, will include 116 mixed-income residential units, two commercial spaces, green space and on-site parking, according to preliminary development plans shared in a media release Oct. 4. The developers said they will present the plans to the city of Cincinnati and the Over-the-Rhine Community Council in the coming months. Renderings are expected to be complete by January 2025. MORE
October 7, 2024Oct 7 This is great news. I hope they extend Melindy Street to Walnut Street and Clay Street back to Liberty Street.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 24 minutes ago, Miami-Erie said: This is great news. I hope they extend Melindy Street to Walnut Street and Clay Street back to Liberty Street. As a pedestrian arcade, yes. As a road for cars, no.
October 8, 2024Oct 8 If there's a surface lot, I hope it's only temporary until a garage can be built on the west side of Walnut (either replacing the parking lot that UrbanSites owns there, or as part of a larger development of the former OTR Kroger block).
October 8, 2024Oct 8 Yeah those two combined lots seem primed for a garage wrapped in spaces for residential, retail, and restaurants.
October 18, 2024Oct 18 On 10/3/2024 at 3:17 PM, Miami-Erie said: Here's the proposed mural: Renderings can often be misleading... or this artist went rogue:
October 18, 2024Oct 18 It's as if somebody fat-fingered the draw tool in iPhone photo editor and they just left it.
October 21, 2024Oct 21 Author Record store opening in the heart of Cincinnati's Over-the-Rhine neighborhood By Christian LeDuc – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier Oct 21, 2024 Updated Oct 21, 2024 7:03am EDT A new record store is opening in the heart of Cincinnati’s Over-the-Rhine neighborhood. Alien Records recently signed a lease with Cincinnati Center City Development Corp. (3CDC) for a 1,240-square-foot storefront at 1207 Vine St. in the former Paper Wings space. Owner Timothy Henninger said opening the store is like a dream come true. The lifelong music enthusiast came up with the idea about two years ago. MORE
October 26, 2024Oct 26 Imperial Theatre in OTR driving arts-related revival These days, Over-the-Rhine is celebrated for its vitality as an arts, business and housing hub that has helped make Cincinnati a tourist and resident destination. Thirty years ago, however, that wasn’t the case. It was a community that had fallen on hard times, full of deteriorating buildings that people tried to avoid while driving through the city. That was the landscape in 1991 when Julie Fay bought her first building on Main Street that eventually became the Iris BookCafe and Gallery. Next came coffee house Kaldi’s, “the living room of Over-the-Rhine,” that is credited for helping to spark the OTR revival. Almost 25 years later, Fay bought the abandoned Imperial Theatre built in 1912 at the intersection of Mohawk Place and West McMicken Avenue, a block east of Central Parkway. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2024/10/25/imperial-theatre-mohawk-over-the-rhine.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 28, 2024Oct 28 Parking rates near Findlay Market may increase as city overhauls street spaces The city may increase parking rates near crowded Findlay Market as a part of a broader reallocation of limited on-street spaces north of Liberty Street in Over-the-Rhine passed by Cincinnati City Council. Parking rates could rise from $1.25 per hour to the current rate south of Liberty Street, which is $2.25 an hour. Parking may also be restricted to one hour at a time, according to a presentation given to a City Council committee last week. Neighbors have been complaining about parking for years as the area around Findlay Market has been redeveloped and added new residents, even as the market itself gets more popular. Hamilton County built a new parking garage along Central Parkway, but rates start at $3 an hour, a charge that motivates people to search for cheaper or free nearby on-street spots. The city has discussed “increasing the paid parking cost within the Findlay Market area to better drive folks into the off-street assets,” said Dan Bower, the city’s deputy director for economic development. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2024/10/28/council-may-increase-findlay-market-parking-rates.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 28, 2024Oct 28 The area around Findlay Market has seemed just as busy, or maybe even busier, than the Gateway Quarter this year. So it makes sense to bring those parking rates in line with the southern half of OTR. Still would love to see Findlay propose to build something on top of their surface lots now that the new garage is open.
October 28, 2024Oct 28 2 hours ago, ColDayMan said: Parking rates near Findlay Market may increase as city overhauls street spaces The city may increase parking rates near crowded Findlay Market as a part of a broader reallocation of limited on-street spaces north of Liberty Street in Over-the-Rhine passed by Cincinnati City Council. Parking rates could rise from $1.25 per hour to the current rate south of Liberty Street, which is $2.25 an hour. Parking may also be restricted to one hour at a time, according to a presentation given to a City Council committee last week. Neighbors have been complaining about parking for years as the area around Findlay Market has been redeveloped and added new residents, even as the market itself gets more popular. Hamilton County built a new parking garage along Central Parkway, but rates start at $3 an hour, a charge that motivates people to search for cheaper or free nearby on-street spots. The city has discussed “increasing the paid parking cost within the Findlay Market area to better drive folks into the off-street assets,” said Dan Bower, the city’s deputy director for economic development. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2024/10/28/council-may-increase-findlay-market-parking-rates.html What a great pic!
October 28, 2024Oct 28 OTR new rec center and community health center update in today's HCB packet. 1715 REPUBLIC ST COA2024042 The applicant requests a Certificate of Appropriateness to renovate five parcels located at 1715 Republic, 34 Green St, 1708 Goose Alley, 1710 Race St and 1712 Race St into a health clinic and surface parking lot, including the demolition of 2 non- contributing buildings, 19 W Elder and 34 Green St, partial demolition of a building at 1715 Republic St, in the Over the Rhine Historic District. Additionally, the applicant requests zoning relief related parking facilities, surface parking lot landscaping and signage. Applicant: CITY STUDIOS ARCHITECTURE Staff Report: DOUG OWEN Item 2. 1811 VINE ST COA2024040 The applicant requests a Certificate of Appropriateness to construct a two-story recreation and wellness community center in the Over the Rhine Historic District. Additionally, the applicant requests zoning relief related to setbacks, ground floor transparency and a total of 3 wall murals. Applicant: CHROMA ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN Staff Report: DOUG OWEN
November 8, 2024Nov 8 Author $50M Findlay Recreation Center clears city review despite concern over design By Brian Planalp – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier Nov 8, 2024 Updated Nov 8, 2024 2:56pm EST The city of Cincinnati's Historic Conservation Board advanced Cincinnati Center City Development Corp.'s (3CDC) proposed $50 million recreation center in Over-the-Rhine over the objection of one board member who described the design as "suburban." The Historic Conservation Board board at its Nov. 4 meeting approved two separate applications for zoning relief for the project. MORE
November 8, 2024Nov 8 I wanted to post the plan too for those without a subscription, this has a lot going on inside and should be great for the neighborhood.
November 8, 2024Nov 8 Don't love the large surface parking lot they are planning on building. But everything else looks good. New rec center in the place of Findlay playground which was awful. Moving crossroads health center to free up the land they currently occupy on Liberty.
November 8, 2024Nov 8 Too bad they can't add 2 or 3 floors of housing given the large shortage we're in the middle of.
November 13, 2024Nov 13 https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2024/11/13/otr-apartment-development-property-advisors-group.html second time attempted at this spot by these guys
November 13, 2024Nov 13 https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2024/11/13/otr-apartment-development-property-advisors-group.html Property Advisors Group plans to build two mixed-use buildings in Over-the-Rhine. The project includes 111 market-rate apartments and commercial spaces. Community council is opposed due to parking concerns, delaying construction. A third attempt to develop a difficult but critical site in Cincinnati’s Over-the-Rhine neighborhood is in the works. Property Advisors Group, a Cleveland-area developer, wants to build a pair of mid-rise mixed-use apartment buildings at the northwest corner of Vine Street and Central Parkway, located at the northern fringe of downtown Cincinnat. The development site comprises seven parcels consolidated into two narrow pieces of property, the first making up the surface parking lot in front of the ArtWorks mural of Jim Tarbell, the second underlying a vacant two-story office building along Central Parkway. The properties are separated by Door Alley, which the proposed seven-story mixed-use buildings would straddle. “They’re relatively small parcels, and we’re trying to make the most of them,” Ben Brannan, of Cleveland-based Geis Cos., the project’s design/build firm, told the Over-the-Rhine Community Council’s board of trustees in October. The project would bring a total of 111 market-rate apartments – 36 studios, 46 one-bedroom units and 29 two-bedroom units – as well as a rooftop terrace and ground-floor amenity spaces. Several ground-floor commercial spaces would also be constructed and leased to restaurants or retail tenants Edited November 13, 2024Nov 13 by ucnum1
November 13, 2024Nov 13 7 minutes ago, cblhaus said: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2024/11/13/otr-apartment-development-property-advisors-group.html second time attempted at this spot by these guys The community council of OTR voting against a project because it doesn't have enough parking is asinine. OTR existed before cars did, its a walkable dense neighborhood where projects with less parking should be lauded, and this project is directly on the streetcar line. There isn't a parking requirement downtown anymore, the project doesn't need zoning variances, it isn't pursuing public money so what's the holdup?
November 13, 2024Nov 13 From the article: The Over-the-Rhine Community Council board of trustees at its October meeting voted 7-3 against authoring a letter of support for the project, with board members citing parking concerns. Said board member Alexis Marsh, “I don’t care about brick details or the cladding or the stone. I don’t care about any of that. I want mothers to be able to park near their home without walking through the neighborhood. Please hear this. You are adding an incredible amount of density. These cars will be parking on our streets. I will not support it.” Community councils continue to be completely worthless. They should have no say in if a development happens or not.
November 13, 2024Nov 13 18 minutes ago, Cincy513 said: From the article: The Over-the-Rhine Community Council board of trustees at its October meeting voted 7-3 against authoring a letter of support for the project, with board members citing parking concerns. Said board member Alexis Marsh, “I don’t care about brick details or the cladding or the stone. I don’t care about any of that. I want mothers to be able to park near their home without walking through the neighborhood. Please hear this. You are adding an incredible amount of density. These cars will be parking on our streets. I will not support it.” Community councils continue to be completely worthless. They should have no say in if a development happens or not. Do they actually affect whether the project can move forward or not? Sorry I really don’t understand how they operate around here
November 13, 2024Nov 13 These parking people are clearly moronic. That said, if the project is nixed Cincy may or may not be dodging a bullet, Geis' work is mediocre at best. I would love to see a rendering.
November 13, 2024Nov 13 25 minutes ago, cblhaus said: Do they actually affect whether the project can move forward or not? Sorry I really don’t understand how they operate around here Yes it can, but it's hit or miss. There is no legal requirement for approvals to go through community councils, it's a political, so it varies. Ultimately, it usually depends on how many people show up to planning commission and/or city council. Before it gets that far, it's also possible the staff at the city do not move it along in the process if the pushback is too great. Finally, there could always be a city councilmember who amplifies the concerns of residents, making approval at planning commission and/or city council harder. The previous mayor just did not care about this feedback so a lot of the influence community orgs used to have got eroded. Considering they are just asking for a standard commercial tax abatement there is not a great case to not approve the project. They are just asking for the standard thing every project of this type gets. That s aid, if the developer was clever, and could get the financing, they could switch this to condos which would convert it into 111 residential abatements, requiring no approvals from anyone at the city to move forward.
November 13, 2024Nov 13 Whenever this project comes up for a board or City Council approval, we all need to write in support. This project adds much-needed residential units to our city, is in the most transit-rich part of the city, and it an appropriate scale for the wide parkway where it will be built. NIMBYism is dumb.
November 13, 2024Nov 13 32 minutes ago, Dev said: Yes it can, but it's hit or miss. There is no legal requirement for approvals to go through community councils, it's a political, so it varies. Ultimately, it usually depends on how many people show up to planning commission and/or city council. Before it gets that far, it's also possible the staff at the city do not move it along in the process if the pushback is too great. Finally, there could always be a city councilmember who amplifies the concerns of residents, making approval at planning commission and/or city council harder. The previous mayor just did not care about this feedback so a lot of the influence community orgs used to have got eroded. Considering they are just asking for a standard commercial tax abatement there is not a great case to not approve the project. They are just asking for the standard thing every project of this type gets. That s aid, if the developer was clever, and could get the financing, they could switch this to condos which would convert it into 111 residential abatements, requiring no approvals from anyone at the city to move forward. Gotcha, thank you for clarifying! I did notice that the article stated it would be 100% privately financed. Unless the design is egregious , I see no reason why this would not receive the necessary approvals. But the developer in the article indicated that the response would result in delay of project, so I’m assuming they are going to continue some community engagement.
November 13, 2024Nov 13 24 minutes ago, taestell said: Whenever this project comes up for a board or City Council approval, we all need to write in support of this project happening. This project adds much-needed residential units to our city, is in the most transit-rich part of the city, and it an appropriate scale for the wide parkway where it will be built. NIMBYism is dumb. I get it, but it's so difficult to agree. The renderings don't do justice to the address.
November 14, 2024Nov 14 1 hour ago, zsnyder said: I get it, but it's so difficult to agree. The renderings don't do justice to the address. Saw the rendering in the biz journal article after my above post. Wow. Typical off the shelf Geis mess. They do all the design work in house and value engineer their projects to death.
November 14, 2024Nov 14 It looks fine. Could it be better? Sure. It's also infinitely better then an empty parking lot.
November 14, 2024Nov 14 1 hour ago, zsnyder said: That slender vertical brickwork drives me nuts. Very un-brick-like imo. Same. As the kids say these days: Mid...and I ain't talkin' rise! "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 14, 2024Nov 14 11 hours ago, Cincy513 said: It looks fine. Could it be better? Sure. It's also infinitely better then an empty parking lot. This argument is...non-aspirational... and borders on being a threat. If you're going to have any hope for great looking buildings in this city, Central Parkway seems like a good place to have it.
November 14, 2024Nov 14 9 minutes ago, zsnyder said: This argument is...non-aspirational... and borders on being a threat. If you're going to have any hope for great looking buildings in this city, Central Parkway seems like a good place to have it. How many new buildings have there been on Central in the last 50 years? How many new residential buildings at all have we seen built in downtown in recent decades? As we all know there aren't exactly tons of developers banging on the door to building things in our downtown. Turning down a good infill development because it doesn't look perfect is the real threat. You're choosing to architecture over making downtown a better and safer place to live.
November 14, 2024Nov 14 The previous proposal looked worse (IMO) and had a 64 space parking garage as part of the building. The most exciting thing about the new plan is that it has been expanded to include the former CMHA office building site next door -- the last proposal to develop that site was unveiled in January 2016, nearly 9 years ago. I understand the desire to have all new infill in OTR be architecturally beautiful. But we have got to take down the roadblocks and allow developers to start building housing in this city. Not wait another decade or two or three until the perfect plan comes along that satisfies everyone. This is why Liberty and Elm ended up getting delayed for nearly a decade, and we ended up getting a project that was just as "ugly" (in the eyes of some people) but with...fewer units.
November 14, 2024Nov 14 The parcels are in the OTR Historic District. Aesthetic style is already required as part of the approval process as it. If you think this is ugly, and yet it still ends up passing through the HCB, then either it isn't that big of a deal or it's a clear sign that there's something wrong with that process and you should focus your efforts on that.
November 14, 2024Nov 14 16 hours ago, zsnyder said: The renderings don't do justice to the address. You should buy it and do it justice!
November 14, 2024Nov 14 That's a lot of units in some small parcels. It kind of looks like an office building a bit but that's alright. Especially good with no parking included, and no city incentives. Maybe they can do some things to make it a bit more appealing. I have no idea how, but I think it should be built.
November 14, 2024Nov 14 I honestly think it's beautiful. Complements the OTR vibe without trying to be faux historic. Sometimes understated is good.
November 14, 2024Nov 14 This is very much referencing industrial buildings in the area, and not the italianate architecture of the majority of OTR. The tall brick verticals with darker, non-brick infill panels between levels within the window stacks is basically just a version of what we see here at 12th and Walnut for instance. My only complaint is actually that I wish they'd just commit to this and make the entire Central Parkway facade consistent and not try to break it up with the lighter metal-panel clad sections. Let it be a warehouse-inspired building. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1085406,-84.513135,3a,75y,299.52h,98.64t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1skJpSUlxt5fx7IP4o0uFcdw!2e0!5s20240601T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-8.636543850662946%26panoid%3DkJpSUlxt5fx7IP4o0uFcdw%26yaw%3D299.51500008327804!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e2?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTExMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
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