February 6Feb 6 12 hours ago, anusthemenace said: was it where Yesterday's used to be on Hatch? It has a similar vibe. Yesterday's wasn't originally here?: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1093334,-84.4979021,3a,49.8y,49.16h,96.35t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sQ8r80mMk9hAborEotzry3g!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-6.348353827635691%26panoid%3DQ8r80mMk9hAborEotzry3g%26yaw%3D49.16359929196027!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDIwMy4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D The first time I went to Yesterday's I was about 19 and I was immediately attacked by a pair of late 40s women.
February 6Feb 6 9 hours ago, RJohnson said: that's it. well, it was the 70s after all. obviously I dreamt up the columns etc. I think I saw the magical mystery tour there. It's still there but has 2 floors added to the top. The corner house to the left was demolished around 2007 or 8.
February 6Feb 6 2 hours ago, anusthemenace said: It's still there but has 2 floors added to the top. The corner house to the left was demolished around 2007 or 8. give me two weeks and i won't remember the way home. it's not like I cruise the streets of Mt. Adams or something. but, the last time I was in Mt. Adams it seemed like tons of houses had been reworked, rebuilt, or demoed and turned into multi-family units. i looked on Google Earth and the building that replaced (belvedere ?) is a nice addition to the area.
February 13Feb 13 Author Homebuilder plans townhomes project in OTR's Brewery District By Brian Planalp – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier Feb 13, 2025 Habitat for Humanity of Greater Cincinnati is planning a $2.5 million townhome development in Over-the-Rhine’s Brewery District. The nonprofit homebuilder will bring the nine-unit, attached single-family development to four land parcels with future addresses being 301, 303, 305 and 307 Mohawk St. and 294, 296, 298, 300 and 302 McMicken Ave. The 0.35-acre site comprises a strip of land between Mohawk Street and McMicken Avenue immediately west of Manchester Avenue in Over-the-Rhine’s Mohawk sub-neighborhood. It sits up the street from the historic former Clyffside and Jackson breweries. MORE
February 13Feb 13 Looks better than a lot of market rate stuff being built, but why are developers so afraid of unbroken materiality? Guarantee these would look better with all-brick facades, or at least a one material commitment per unit. Oh, and I'll take the house where the stick man can't see in my window.
February 13Feb 13 19 minutes ago, zsnyder said: Looks better than a lot of market rate stuff being built, but why are developers so afraid of unbroken materiality? Guarantee these would look better with all-brick facades, or at least a one material commitment per unit. For Habitat, anything other than vinyl siding is a potentially cost-prohibitive decision. I suspect all brick would be too expensive, and this is a sort of compromise.
February 13Feb 13 My complaint is more about mashing them together to break up the volumes (because knee-jerk design says that's a rule) rather than lobbying for brick.
February 18Feb 18 Today's historic packet Monday, February 24, 2024 at 3:00 pm CALL TO ORDER CONSENT ITEMS Item 1. 2569 ST LEO PL COA2025001 The applicant requests a Certificate of Appropriateness to rehabilitate the Historic Landmark St. Leo the Great School into a 25-unit senior housing apartment, including door and window modifications located in the community of North Fairmount. Additionally, the applicant seeks Use Variance approval for a 25unit multi-family use in a single-family District. Applicant: BECK ENGINEERING LLC Staff Report: DOUG OWEN DISCUSSION ITEMS Item 2. 3045 WOLD AV COA2025002 The applicant requests a Certificate of Appropriateness to construct a swimming pool, rear-covered porch and two car attached garage in the East Walnut Hills Historic District. Item 3. 1450 WALNUT ST COA2024059 Applicant: CITY STUDIOS Staff Report: DOUG OWEN OTHER BUSINESS January 2025 Staff COA Approvals ADJOURN The applicant requests a Certificate of Appropriateness for new construction and to rehabilitate a mixed-use residential development, including the demolition of a rear structure and the construction of a surface parking lot in the Over the Rhine Historic District. Additionally, the applicant seeks zoning relief for the location of a new building and a surface parking lot, and landscaping requirements
February 19Feb 19 The Grammers site is conservative in design and it will probably sail through HCB. Only issues might be the height on Liberty, but I personally thinking additional height on Liberty is appropriate. I was just having a conversation this week with a coworker about the south side of Liberty... there is pretty much no chance in the near future that buildings would create a consistent street wall along its length, so what is a designer to do for a new building: Push the building to the property line or keep the building frontages staggered as they are today? City Studios opted for the latter.
February 19Feb 19 I'm less concerned about the building not facing Liberty. I'm very concerned about the construction of a 71-space surface parking lot. That is not appropriate for this neighborhood.
February 19Feb 19 2 hours ago, taestell said: I'm less concerned about the building not facing Liberty. I'm very concerned about the construction of a 71-space surface parking lot. That is not appropriate for this neighborhood. Agreed. At the very least, the parking lot should be somewhat accessible to the public. Main and Liberty area needs more public parking - Main St, Grant Park area/Somerset, Vine Street, would all benefit since there's so much resident-only parking in this area.
February 20Feb 20 The Liberty "narrowing" was a crap project. This project on the Gramer's site is also crap. Somehow you're the bad guy if you point this out.
February 20Feb 20 9 hours ago, taestell said: I'm less concerned about the building not facing Liberty. I'm very concerned about the construction of a 71-space surface parking lot. That is not appropriate for this neighborhood. I agree here. Aren't parking minimums eliminated in this part of the city? The developer is instead choosing to maximize parking on the site outside of the building footprint.
February 20Feb 20 14 hours ago, buildingcincinnati said: Does anyone have a site plan for this project? It was posted in the OTR non-3CDC topic a while back:
February 20Feb 20 10 minutes ago, anusthemenace said: Can we get a damn cornice? That should be a minimum requirement in OTR. Careful what you ask for. Cornices these days have become downright pornographic.
February 20Feb 20 So they're tearing down the back 2/3 of Grammer's. Awesome. So the room with the piano and the dining room behind it? I'd expect nothing less.
February 20Feb 20 Pretty much yeah the restaurant space will be reused as such again and The historic Grammer’s restaurant and bar on Walnut Street will serve as a commercial anchor. A second ground-floor restaurant space will front Walnut Street south of Grammer’s
February 20Feb 20 36 minutes ago, ucnum1 said: Or these new ones. Thank you for sharing. While I hate surface parking as much as anyone here, what I really hate is large-scale, gated, private parking for a select few. Do we know how much of this parking will be available to the public?
February 20Feb 20 30 minutes ago, anusthemenace said: Can we get a damn cornice? That should be a minimum requirement in OTR. Looks like there's some brick crenellation which seems appropriate and can be successfully executed by most masons today. See Model/3CDC/GBBN's recent work for Willkommen projects for examples. In many ways, I'd prefer crenellation to faux historic cornices.
February 20Feb 20 7 minutes ago, Miami-Erie said: Thank you for sharing. While I hate surface parking as much as anyone here, what I really hate is large-scale, gated, private parking for a select few. Do we know how much of this parking will be available to the public? Probably none 71 parking spots for 116 units. The project will yield 116 mixed-income residential units and 71 on-site parking spots in a lot created behind one of the existing buildings. A roof deck will be constructed, as well as an outdoor patio
February 20Feb 20 Author Developers show renderings of $33M Lockard development in OTR By Brian Planalp – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier Feb 20, 2025 Urban Sites and Triversity Construction are developing the $33.4 million project, called the Lockard, on 1.37 acres at the southeast corner of Liberty and Walnut streets. The developers submitted the project Jan. 29 to the city of Cincinnati’s Historic Conservation Board. The board will consider four zoning variance requests related to the design at its meeting Feb. 24. A groundbreaking is expected in summer 2025. The Lockard involves a significant amount of new construction as well as the renovation of four historic structures. The final result will be one unified 114,000-square-foot building between four and five stories tall. MORE
February 20Feb 20 40 minutes ago, Miami-Erie said: what I really hate is large-scale, gated, private parking for a select few ...in the city's most dense and walkable residential neighborhood with great transit access and zero parking requirements.
February 20Feb 20 The fenced in "courtyard" along Liberty is the part that really bothers me, surface parking can be removed or amended in the future for little cost, but the massing of the building is there to stay for the long term. From a resident standpoint too, the space with tables and chairs would be significantly more pleasant if tucked behind the building instead of on Liberty street. From a pedestrian standpoint, walking along a building front is better than walking past a fenced off private patio you can't access. I'll re-post my bad sketch of shifting the massing up. I know it's more expensive to build in acute angles vs keeping the floor plan a 90 but come on.
February 21Feb 21 LOLLL! I don’t know why he is living there either, clearly the accommodations/lifestyle he needs is better found in other neighborhoods. Get over it, as more people move down there and more development takes place things are going to change. You and your neighbor are not entitled to spaces in front of your home. Go buy a unit in OTR that has dedicated parking if it’s that important, but a public street is not YOURS. “He and his neighbor will no longer have parking spaces in front of their homes.” “If this is how the city is going to operate, I don’t know why I’m down here investing, I don’t know why I’m living here.” “The public really needs to know what’s going on down here … they can come in one day and just take your street away. People need to know about that,” Howe said.“ New rec center may be a huge benefit for OTR, but resident has concerns about losing a street, parking https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/i-team/new-rec-center-may-be-a-huge-benefit-for-otr-but-resident-has-concerns-about-losing-a-street-parking Edited February 21Feb 21 by 646empire
February 21Feb 21 5 hours ago, ucgrady said: The fenced in "courtyard" along Liberty is the part that really bothers me, surface parking can be removed or amended in the future for little cost, but the massing of the building is there to stay for the long term. From a resident standpoint too, the space with tables and chairs would be significantly more pleasant if tucked behind the building instead of on Liberty street. From a pedestrian standpoint, walking along a building front is better than walking past a fenced off private patio you can't access. I'll re-post my bad sketch of shifting the massing up. I know it's more expensive to build in acute angles vs keeping the floor plan a 90 but come on. Look at how many surface parking spots are shown on this graphic. The only hope is that a giant garage is planned for the Kroger site and that the 71 spots associated with this development will be moved over there 5-10 years from now, freeing the Clay/Melindy area for infill. But the infill itself would require parking of its own (assuming the continuation of current trends), meaning that 150+ spots might be needed in a hypothetical new Kroger garage for Grammers Apts + future Clay/Melindy apartments. Keep in mind that we almost lost the entire block southwest of this graphic back in 2006 when voters approved the CPS bond levee and that school board had the bright idea to tear down Rothenberg and build a replacement school south of the Kroger.
February 21Feb 21 What also sucks about the parking that the small portion on the south part of the lot is currently a gated outdoor area for the residents that live in the buildings surrounding it. One of my friends lived in one of the apartments and the only reason he chose that one was bc it had this big outdoor area for his dog to run.
February 21Feb 21 HCB meeting is this upcoming Monday, Feb 24 at 3pm. "Written correspondence for the Board’s consideration is accepted and must be submitted seven calendar days before the hearing." Imagine getting even half of that space back for something other than parked cars! Could be something great!
February 24Feb 24 The Smithall building at the Northwest corner of Vine and W. Clifton is looking good with the plywood first floor removed and new windows installed
February 24Feb 24 1 minute ago, zsnyder said: What was "Smithall?" Somehow this website is still up: http://www.smithall.com/CompanyInfo.htm
February 24Feb 24 I think they've been actively in business for a long time there. They pretty much only used the garage doors next door to the main structure. I think it was mainly storage/warehouse space for them for the last 20 years? But I don't really know for sure.
February 24Feb 24 16 minutes ago, ryanlammi said: I think they've been actively in business for a long time there. They pretty much only used the garage doors next door to the main structure. I think it was mainly storage/warehouse space for them for the last 20 years? But I don't really know for sure. They haven't been active in that building since at least 2009. I walked through the space for a potential developer then, it still had a miscellaneous collection of equipment laying around but was mostly empty.
February 24Feb 24 37 minutes ago, mcmicken said: They haven't been active in that building since at least 2009. I walked through the space for a potential developer then, it still had a miscellaneous collection of equipment laying around but was mostly empty. Interesting, appreciate the insight. I've seen the garage door next door open quite a bit over the years with pallets of stuff. Figured the whole building was being used, and just getting accessed from the building adjacent.
February 24Feb 24 19 minutes ago, ryanlammi said: Interesting, appreciate the insight. I've seen the garage door next door open quite a bit over the years with pallets of stuff. Figured the whole building was being used, and just getting accessed from the building adjacent. There is/was a metal fabrication shop renting part of the building facing Vine which was a lot of the activity.
February 24Feb 24 5 hours ago, jwulsin said: Somehow this website is still up: http://www.smithall.com/CompanyInfo.htm Holy moly, that website triggers some nostalgia.
February 24Feb 24 On 2/20/2025 at 3:58 PM, ucgrady said: The fenced in "courtyard" along Liberty is the part that really bothers me, surface parking can be removed or amended in the future for little cost, but the massing of the building is there to stay for the long term. From a resident standpoint too, the space with tables and chairs would be significantly more pleasant if tucked behind the building instead of on Liberty street. From a pedestrian standpoint, walking along a building front is better than walking past a fenced off private patio you can't access. I'll re-post my bad sketch of shifting the massing up. I know it's more expensive to build in acute angles vs keeping the floor plan a 90 but come on. I think part of the "courtyard" is an outdoor dining patio. I think they should push to make the rest of the courtyard public accessible, but otherwise am not that offended that it doesn't meet the street because all of south Liberty does not.
February 26Feb 26 I didn't see anything on the recent HCB packet, but work is happening at 1332 Republic Street , anyone know what the plan is for that garage?
February 26Feb 26 1 hour ago, ucgrady said: I didn't see anything on the recent HCB packet, but work is happening at 1332 Republic Street , anyone know what the plan is for that garage? Looks the property changed hands recently in December '24. https://wedge.hcauditor.org/view/re/0810004017700/2024/transfers
February 27Feb 27 17 hours ago, jwulsin said: Looks the property changed hands recently in December '24. https://wedge.hcauditor.org/view/re/0810004017700/2024/transfers I remember years ago when they wanted to turn that into a bar and someone who lived in one of the units across the street through a big enough fit that the bar didn’t happen.
February 27Feb 27 53 minutes ago, Ucgrad2015 said: I remember years ago when they wanted to turn that into a bar and someone who lived in one of the units across the street through a big enough fit that the bar didn’t happen. And even worse, people here were defending the project falling through. Quite a few comments about how it's removed from Vine Street and therefore a bar is inappropriate enough, but even more so because they wanted to do a roof deck. Never mind that this is the most urban neighborhood in the entire region and people should anticipate a mix of uses...was very weird to see people on this site applauding it being denied.
February 27Feb 27 Speaking of denial, praise the Lord that we have the Saviour of OTR arisen. Heaven forbid we build 116 mixed income units with comparative Liberty St. heights and 4 rehabs rejuvenating a tired section of Walnut.
February 27Feb 27 1 hour ago, lumpy said: Speaking of denial, praise the Lord that we have the Saviour of OTR arisen. Heaven forbid we build 116 mixed income units with comparative Liberty St. heights and 4 rehabs rejuvenating a tired section of Walnut. Did I miss something, was the project denied?
February 27Feb 27 22 hours ago, ucgrady said: I didn't see anything on the recent HCB packet, but work is happening at 1332 Republic Street , anyone know what the plan is for that garage? Historic Zoning Board gave them the 60 day continuance.Alter the design time is what it is
February 27Feb 27 Brick has started going up on the facade along Elm Street for the Liberty + Elm development
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