It's great to see those ugly buildings gone, and the new construction will give more options for people considering moving into OTR. I think it would be great to organize a "clean up" day on Vine Street in the Spring involving both local OTR folks and people from other communities.

Oh, it is?  I thought that it was a rendering of the building(s) in the picture that Michael Redmond posted just above in the thread.  In that case, I love it!  My mistake entirely!  Thanks for setting me straight.

 

Yup you can see images of the buildings that were taken down here:

http://www.citykin.com/2008/02/demo-of-vine-street-buildings.html

 

Wow, those were hideous.  Thanks for the link.  I can't believe what an improvement this will be!

It's great to see those ugly buildings gone, and the new construction will give more options for people considering moving into OTR. I think it would be great to organize a "clean up" day on Vine Street in the Spring involving both local OTR folks and people from other communities.

 

There is the Great American Cleanup that always has a good turnout in OTR.  This year is April 26.  Most of the safety sectors sponsor/coordinate a portion of it.

And the building across the street as well will be coming down.  The chicken shack as we call it.  Model has this as well I believe.

 

I think it would be great to organize a "clean up" day on Vine Street in the Spring involving both local OTR folks and people from other communities.

Most of the safety sectors sponsor/coordinate a portion of it.

Watch Keep Cincinnati Beautiful's website or call Cheryl Curtis at the OTR chamber to be put on the email list to get more info on the Great American Cleanup and Safety Sector meetings.

241-2690

Go Model!

 

I do not know if has been mentioned on here or not but a new store, I believe simply called outside, will be opening on the 12th street side of 12th and Vine.  They will primarily focus on outdoor furniture.  I do not know of the opening date yet.

 

 

OUTSIDE should be open in early Spring.  Their stuff looks pretty cool and will mesh with the existing stores in the neighborhood.  I will update once I know an exact opening date.

I saw that a few of you guys attended this but i figured I'd share it anyways.

 

New Store Opens Its Doors On Vine Street

 

The revitalization of Over-the-Rhine brought cowboys on their horses to Vine Street Saturday afternoon.

 

It was all part of the grand opening of Angelita Jones' furniture store, "A Lucky Step."

 

Jones says her store has lots of company.

 

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=b11b629a-608a-4acc-b951-62a7c78b97cd

 

GQ is making some nice strides for sure!

School project highlights choices

BY DENISE SMITH AMOS | [email protected]

February 12, 2008  The Enquirer

 

OVER-THE-RHINE – Every Saturday morning, Matt Hidy heads to Moeller High, gathers a crew of 10 to 20 fellow students, and carpools to Over-the-Rhine.

 

There they pick up hammers, drills and other tools and they help restore apartments for nonprofit Over-the-Rhine Community Housing.

I am excited about the day when we can send students from OTR into Montgomery to do the same charity work with their Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous.

 

Its really bringing a bunch different people from different backgrounds together so well be able to understand that were all just humans at the end of the day, he said.

 

 

 

I'm sorry but if you've had your doubts, you are seriously living in a sheltered world!

I'm sorry but if you've had your doubts, you are seriously living in a sheltered world!

Excellent point.  This is why I believe if OTRCC really wants to bring to light the plight of these people, then why not focus on building subsidized housing in places like Montg. or Blue Ash.  This would solve two problems simultaneously, first it does show that these are people and now neighbors, just like you and I.  Second it gives them an opportunity to break out of the cycle that keeps them poor, alchoholic, criminal and drug abusers.  Why build housing for a drug addict next to the corner of E. Clifton and Lang that is the hottest drug corner in the city if you truly want to help them, why not the corner of Kenwood and Montgomery Road?  Give them a hand up not a hand out.

People only seem to want to help to a certain extent.  They want to go into inner-city schools and paint another layer over lead paint, or replace some toilet seats, but they really don't want to get involved in things that can have a substantial impact.

 

It is a feel good effort for these suburbanites to be able to come into the "poor inner-city" and help out those who are "less fortunate."  To me it is nothing more than self-boosterism so that you can say...well look what I did.  Maybe this is cynical on my part...but I wonder if these same people ever come down on their own (outside of their required service).  OTR, and the inner-city, is much more than just some charity case.

^so true.  Drive 20 minutes south, drop off some clothes at the free store or if they are closed dump them in the park.  Or you can serve dinner for 2 hours a year at Thanksgiving or Christmas.  Or simply do the easier thing, write a check to the charity before Dec. 31 so you can still write it off.

 

Step up!  If you really want to help them then help them.  Send them to school with your kids, involve them in the social functions that you yourself are involved in.  Help build housing away from the crushing negativisms of an area riddled with crime, drugs, and poverty.  Offer scholarships to Moeller for at risk children from OTR or the West End.  Then you can really say you did something other than enabling the very things you are trying to help them out of.

You guys put your finger on 98% of do-gooding in America in connection with America's cities. It treats the cities as third world countries. The best thing these folks could do would be to work for dispersed subsidized housing throughout the region, shop downtown and in OTR, and convince their parents (who may be in positions of authority in corporations throughout the region) to invest capital in the center city. If they want to help, volunteer to clean up the city or tutor at a school.

 

The problem is that the Buddy Gray attitude dominates the mindset of the adults that control these programs. It always seemed the worst sort of condescension. Actually, it is even worse when it comes to work in Appalachia. Don't even get me started. 

The problem is that the Buddy Gray attitude dominates the mindset of the adults that control these programs. It always seemed the worst sort of condescension. Actually, it is even worse when it comes to work in Appalachia. Don't even get me started.

 

We could probably start a whole thread on this but let me just say this, you should get "started".  Because it is just far enough away from the daily lives of the vast majority of people that they never even think this out, or truly analyze their own motives.  As long as we continue on the "Buddy Gray" route, then we will never solve the problem for these people.  They will never get the real help that they need.  They will live out the rest of their lives bouncing from social service to social service and in reality, as long as it is way down there in OTR, thats ok to most people.

Out of sight, out of mind! If you ask me, it's a spiritual problem!

My God you people are negative.  These kids are choosing to go down and experience OTR and learn about the community while creating a new coffee shop in the process.  People here need to realize that the rest of the world is not always going to think like them and want to move to the inner city.  The article mentions that the one kid has completely changed his perception about OTR.  If we can get that to happen to a lot of people, then half the problem is already solved.

 

And Rando, correct me if I'm wrong, but you still live in the suburbs with your parents (when not in co-op) don't you?  Would that not make every service trip you do in OTR (assuming you do any) similar to what these people are doing?

My God you people are negative.

You are commenting about a story, I am commenting about an entire philosophy of charitable work.  This is not being negative, but positive in that these people do have hope and can break this cycle.  The philosophy that states that these people have no hope other than the one we give them once or twice a year severely underestimates the power of people to raise out of their situation.  My question is, if you have a drug addict trying to rehabilitate themeselves, is it wise to keep them in the same block that is a drug hotspot?  Is that enabling?

My God you people are negative.  These kids are choosing to go down and experience OTR and learn about the community while creating a new coffee shop in the process.  People here need to realize that the rest of the world is not always going to think like them and want to move to the inner city.  The article mentions that the one kid has completely changed his perception about OTR.  If we can get that to happen to a lot of people, then half the problem is already solved.

 

I'm sorry but the way they approach it has do-gooder written all over it. My friend made some of the same comments these people did in this article after he paid 3 grand to go to Honduras just to pour some concrete for a remote village.

 

And Rando, correct me if I'm wrong, but you still live in the suburbs with your parents (when not in co-op) don't you?  Would that not make every service trip you do in OTR (assuming you do any) similar to what these people are doing?

 

I live at home (in the 'burbs with my parents) about half of the year.

 

As for the things I do in OTR, they are by my own choices/doings...I am not required by school, church, or anyone to go down and do what I do.  Furthermore, the things I do extend far beyond scooping up a bowl of soup or painting some walls.  As I have said before on here...people who actually know me, know this about me.  Of those people who know...I have not met one who would question my dedication and sincere efforts/service I do for this city.

People here need to realize that the rest of the world is not always going to think like them and want to move to the inner city.  The article mentions that the one kid has completely changed his perception about OTR.

 

I was one of those kids that grew up in Amberly Village, had a sports car at 16, went to Walnut Hills, had pretty much whatever I wanted.  It was my moving to Over the Rhine from Mt Adams that changed my perception of OTR.  I do not think that everyone should move here, it isn't for everyone.  It is just the opposite that I believe should happen.  This is not about what someone thinks of the community, but how they choose to "help" the people.

People only seem to want to help to a certain extent.  They want to go into inner-city schools and paint another layer over lead paint, or replace some toilet seats, but they really don't want to get involved in things that can have a substantial impact.

 

It is a feel good effort for these suburbanites to be able to come into the "poor inner-city" and help out those who are "less fortunate."  To me it is nothing more than self-boosterism so that you can say...well look what I did.  Maybe this is cynical on my part...but I wonder if these same people ever come down on their own (outside of their required service).  OTR, and the inner-city, is much more than just some charity case.

 

^so true.  Drive 20 minutes south, drop off some clothes at the free store or if they are closed dump them in the park.  Or you can serve dinner for 2 hours a year at Thanksgiving or Christmas.  Or simply do the easier thing, write a check to the charity before Dec. 31 so you can still write it off.

 

Step up!  If you really want to help them then help them.  Send them to school with your kids, involve them in the social functions that you yourself are involved in.  Help build housing away from the crushing negativisms of an area riddled with crime, drugs, and poverty.  Offer scholarships to Moeller for at risk children from OTR or the West End.  Then you can really say you did something other than enabling the very things you are trying to help them out of.

 

 

I think that a lot of individuals are trying to help, they just don't have the ability to do things like "offer scholarships at Moeller" or "build housing away from...".  They take the mindset of "if everyone did just a little bit, things could get better", which is well intentioned, but naive. 

"if everyone did just a little bit" they could offer scholarships at Moeller or build housing, not away from, but closer to positive influences that can help change the person in a fundamental way.

 

People would scream bloody murder over this idea, don't you agree?  But why?

My God you people are negative.

You are commenting about a story, I am commenting about an entire philosophy of charitable work.  This is not being negative, but positive in that these people do have hope and can break this cycle.  The philosophy that states that these people have no hope other than the one we give them once or twice a year severely underestimates the power of people to raise out of their situation.  My question is, if you have a drug addict trying to rehabilitate themeselves, is it wise to keep them in the same block that is a drug hotspot?  Is that enabling?

 

Sure it's enabling and I wish that the region would disperse low income housing, but what the hell is a 16 year old at Moeller supposed to do about that?  They're helping in the ways they can.

 

I'm sorry but the way they approach it has do-gooder written all over it. My friend made some of the same comments these people did in this article after he paid 3 grand to go to Honduras just to pour some concrete for a remote village.

 

 

Charity work is necessary to fill an immediate gap.  While people still have to fight for long term change so that charity no longer becomes necessary, people still have needs that have to be met, which is exactly what charity does.

 

I live at home (in the 'burbs with my parents) about half of the year.

 

As for the things I do in OTR, they are by my own choices/doings...I am not required by school, church, or anyone to go down and do what I do.  Furthermore, the things I do extend far beyond scooping up a bowl of soup or painting some walls.  As I have said before on here...people who actually know me, know this about me.  Of those people who know...I have not met one who would question my dedication and sincere efforts/service I do for this city.

 

Well, outside of this article, you don't know these kids or their sincerity or dedication to the neighborhood.  I do know that these programs are not required by Moeller and that these kids could be doing something else with their free time, but are choosing to be in Over the Rhine rehabbing buildings.  They spend some of their free time making a coffee shop in OTR, others spend time walking and taking pictures in OTR, still others frequent the stores of the Gateway Quarter, Main, and Findlay Market.  Who are we, as a collective internet forum, to criticize a groups efforts at fixing a broken neighborhood?

"if everyone did just a little bit" they could offer scholarships at Moeller or build housing, not away from, but closer to positive influences that can help change the person in a fundamental way.

 

People would scream bloody murder over this idea, don't you agree?  But why?

 

That is absolutely not even true! My highschool, Summit Country Day, set aside scholarships every year for inner city kids that otherwise would never have had the possibility to come there.  From free lunches to bus passes to subsidizing extracurriculars, the school took care of it all.  While I can't speak for Moeller, I do know that Seven Hills, and Cincinnati Country Day do the same. 

Sure it's enabling and I wish that the region would disperse low income housing, but what the hell is a 16 year old at Moeller supposed to do about that?  They're helping in the ways they can.

Once again, I do draw a distinction between this one story, and the overall philosophy.

 

Charity work is necessary to fill an immediate gap.  While people still have to fight for long term change so that charity no longer becomes necessary, people still have needs that have to be met, which is exactly what charity does.

Where were these same people 20 years ago?  Where do you honestly think they will be 20 years from now under the same philosophy? 

Well, outside of this article, you don't know these kids or their sincerity or dedication to the neighborhood.

Nor have I questioned it. 

Who are we, as a collective internet forum, to criticize a groups efforts at fixing a broken neighborhood?

We are residents, community leaders, fellow charitable givers, we are the one's who see everyday the cycle that is never broken.  We have every right to question if we, as Americans are doing the right thing in helping people who we believe can not otherwise help themselves.  No one should ever question anything if they never want to see it improve so we are the ones who say there is a better way and this forum is a beginning in the expression of that change.

 

That is absolutely not even true! My highschool, Summit Country Day, set aside scholarships every year for inner city kids that otherwise would never have had the possibility to come there.

So you mean it is true, it can be done.  I was responding to this..."they just don't have the ability to do things like "offer scholarships at Moeller""

 

As for the screaming bloody murder, let OTRCC announce they are building a homeless shelter in Kenwood.  Disagree?  If not, then why?  If so, then lets announce a fundraiser.

Well, outside of this article, you don't know these kids or their sincerity or dedication to the neighborhood.  I do know that these programs are not required by Moeller and that these kids could be doing something else with their free time, but are choosing to be in Over the Rhine rehabbing buildings.  They spend some of their free time making a coffee shop in OTR, others spend time walking and taking pictures in OTR, still others frequent the stores of the Gateway Quarter, Main, and Findlay Market.  Who are we, as a collective internet forum, to criticize a groups efforts at fixing a broken neighborhood?

 

I was also speaking in generalities about these types of volunteer efforts.  I'm a HUGE proponent of service/volunteer work, but I simply hate it when it seems to be superficial.

 

Listen I think it's great that these kids are down in OTR putting in some manual labor.  But I just don't want that to turn into these kids future rationale behind why they can feel a certain way about people in the inner-city.  I can't tell you how many times I hear someone spout off a prejudice and/or inaccurate comment and then say something like, "oh well I know because I work Downtown" or "I used to volunteer at the Free Store Food Bank" etc, etc.

 

It just makes me sick when I hear that stuff...just because you participated in some cleanup effort years ago does not mean that you're an authority on the subject.  Like I said, I hope that these kids are down there outside of their required service time...and that they stay loyal to OTR and the inner-city.  It is just too often that these things are presented as charity cases, and I just think that OTR is much more than a charity case...and from the sounds of it, that is how these kids view it.  That is unfortunate if you ask me.

That is absolutely not even true! My highschool, Summit Country Day, set aside scholarships every year for inner city kids that otherwise would never have had the possibility to come there.  From free lunches to bus passes to subsidizing extracurriculars, the school took care of it all.  While I can't speak for Moeller, I do know that Seven Hills, and Cincinnati Country Day do the same.

 

Summit Country Day is certainly no Moeller, Elder, or Ursuline though either.  That distinction should be made.

Summit Country Day is certainly no Moeller, Elder, or Ursuline though either.  That distinction should be made.

I don't know if it should, if they are offering it then great.  I would like to question who actually gets the scholarship however.  Many OTR and West End students going to Summit through this program?  Underprivileged is a relative term, are they truly choosing children from the inner city?  I hope so.

I think it is ridiculous that you guys are bad mouthing good deeds. I agree with your points that maybe it is not enough and its merely a "band-aid", but isn't it better that these kids are getting involved in charity at a young age? I can speak for Moeller, because i did go there. They do all different types of charity work. They offer a mentoring program at Corryville Catholic, they go on mission trips into Appalachia, Mexico, Guatemala, and many other places. There were also underprivileged kids that went to Moeller.

Mike Moroski, the teacher leader, is a great guy, and just because you don't agree with his effort to expose the kids to OTR, I don't believe it gives you the right to judge him. He is not from Cincinnati and has no ties here, but he has chosen to donate his time to helping people here. Even if it is not the way that you would do it don't spoil his good deed.

I personally was involved through Moeller in the Corryville program as well as a habitat house in OTR, and even though at the time i never thought that i would want to have anything else to do with these areas in the future I have become a big fan and support of these areas because what i learned at Moeller. 

I'm not trying to be a dick, and i do agree with many of your points. Maybe they should build organizations like this next to Moeller, but unfortunately our society isn't at a point were this kind of thing would happen. Even if they tried to do something like this financially it wouldn't work.

I agree with your points that maybe it is not enough and its merely a "band-aid", but isn't it better that these kids are getting involved in charity at a young age?

 

Yes it is good that they are getting involved in service work at a young age...I certainly commend that.

I think it is ridiculous that you guys are bad mouthing good deeds

This is why nothing will ever change.  I love that these kids or any kids are doing anything, WONDERFUL!  I am questioning the majority of people, speaking in the macro, and this really has nothing to do with these kids or this specific article.  The only thing this article did was segway into a discussion, thats all, an uncomfortable discussion perhaps but a discussion.  If you doubt me, reread and post up anything negative I have said about these kids in particular.  To say we can not discuss charitable motivations of the masses because of the "children" is looking for an easy way out of a hard discussion.

 

Bottom line here.  Are we effective in helping people break out of the dependency cycle?  This is not about Moeller, it is about the people we are supposed to be helping.

Maybe they should build organizations like this next to Moeller, but unfortunately our society isn't at a point were this kind of thing would happen. Even if they tried to do something like this financially it wouldn't work.

Help me with the last part.  What part of the financing is at issue?  The first statement is my point in a nutshell.

The only thing this article did was segway into a discussion,

 

The article rode a two wheeled self-balancing personal transportation device into a discussion? Strange.

^but true

Here are some graphics (via Model Group) of some of the other work coming on line:

 

Elevations of Vine/Mercer Streets:

 

Trinity Block Map:

No i'm not saying that you were bad mouthing the kids, but rather the way charity works. Do a lot of people from the suburbs do a day of charity here and there and feel like they are good people? Yeah, maybe. But isnt that better than doing nothing. If these things are ever going to change it is going to take the government's hand. Which there hands are tied, because a lot of their voting public are the people in the suburb. I'm not disagreeing with you that the only way the people are going to really get better is to remove them from the environment where they failed, but is the person paying 600k for their home in Montgomery going to want them living next door to them?? I doubt it. Is that wrong of them? Yeah, but it is their right to chose to live in a place that lacks diversity, and if they don't care about their city that is also their right. Yeah it pisses me off how so many people care so little about their city, but this is America and it is their right.

 

Not that if feel that it is right, but it is the state of our city at the moment, if you are going to choose to live in the city you are probably going to have questionable characters around. Will it change? I hope so and believe it will.

 

Sorry if my statements seemed heated i just had a great experience at Moeller and don't like people questioning the motives of the school getting the kids involved in charity. Regardless of the terms it is important to get the youth involved in charity, because that will last through their lives.

 

Maybe they should build organizations like this next to Moeller, but unfortunately our society isn't at a point were this kind of thing would happen. Even if they tried to do something like this financially it wouldn't work.

Help me with the last part.  What part of the financing is at issue?  The first statement is my point in a nutshell.

 

Charity project like habitat for humanity or restoc only work when the land and structures are donated or sold for really cheap. I don't know of any properties near Moeller selling for really cheap.

 

 

I'm not disagreeing with you that the only way the people are going to really get better is to remove them from the environment where they failed, but is the person paying 600k for their home in Montgomery going to want them living next door to them?? I doubt it. Is that wrong of them? Yeah

 

The number of social services in OTR and West End, according to the last count I heard, was 108.  ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHT, yet when other social services are proposed for OTR I am accused of NIMBYism and hating the poor (ask Vlasta Molak) yet the same people who are proposing this are the true NIMBY's.  You are correct, I chose to live here, I chose to help better my community so when I say that from my daily experience, I see the same people everyday who can not break out of the cycle and propose that we take a deep look, not at the effort, but the results,  am I the one in the wrong.

 

Who is truly being "helped" here?  The ones receiving or the ones giving?  You said the same thing I have been saying however you say it dismissively, I say it with a hope of bringing to light a major ongoing problem.

 

Charity project like habitat for humanity or restoc only work when the land and structures are donated or sold for really cheap. I don't know of any properties near Moeller selling for really cheap.

Land is willed and donated to churches all the time up there.

 

 

Michael, I suppose we have a fundamental difference in philosophy about the homeless/poor.  You seem to be advocating the end of the welfare state to try to get people back on their feet.  I think that would be a disaster and would just lead to an increase in desperation in the community.  As much as you don't like to admit it, charity will always be necessary.  If a person is freezing and starving, obviously the primary goal is to feed and shelter that person, not give money to job programs so that this individual can stop the cycle.  That second step, and things like that (dispersing low income housing), are also necessary, but in the mean time, there are immediate needs to be met, which is precisely the goal of charity work.

 

I can't help but wonder if your supposed yearning for social change is selfishly motivated. As a resident and realtor in OTR, it makes perfect sense that you would want the negative elements removed from your neighborhood and place of business.  Now, I know we all want a cleaned up OTR that everyone can benefit from, but I just hope that the immediate needs of the present residents would come before the needs of potential investors.

 

Rando, those renderings look great. Thanks for posting them.

The problem is edale, there is no second step for most of these people beyond the social service, is that selfishly motivated by the service?  It is a revolving door, is that what we want?  Is that helping or enabling?  Are we here to help or enable?  HELP! so that means we have to do something different than that which enables, so it isn't a revolving door.  (That was meant to be circular-cheesy but circular)

 

I can't help but wonder if your supposed yearning for social change is selfishly motivated. As a resident and realtor in OTR, it makes perfect sense that you would want the negative elements removed from your neighborhood and place of business.

Let me copy and paste what I just wrote above

"The number of social services in OTR and West End, according to the last count I heard, was 108.  ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHT, yet when other social services are proposed for OTR I am accused of NIMBYism and hating the poor (ask Vlasta Molak) yet the same people who are proposing this are the true NIMBY's.  You are correct, I chose to live here, I chose to help better my community so when I say that from my daily experience, I see the same people everyday who can not break out of the cycle and propose that we take a deep look, not at the effort, but the results,  am I the one in the wrong."

 

Are we not allowed to challenge something when the results are questionable at best?  There will always be a need for charities, I am not saying that we eliminate them as you say but can we do it more effectively?

 

Land is willed and donated to churches all the time up there.

 

Please explain how a shelter in the hard to reach suburbs is going to help the average homeless person living in the city?  Oh, the one or two bus lines that go past that area?  The busses that stop running at 12, require money to ride, and all originate from downtown?  I understand the concept you are getting at, but the practicality of your argument just isn't there.

Is there any way you guys could continue this conversation via PM?  There are some new renderings worthy of discussion here.

Michael, I think you and i are really agreeing I'm just looking at them the way things are, and you are looking at them the way they should be. By the was i usually voice my opinion on this subject the same way as you, but i believe what Moeller is doing is trying to help. Whether they are or not i guess that's yet to be seen. 

Are we not allowed to challenge something when the results are questionable at best?  There will always be a need for charities, I am not saying that we eliminate them as you say but can we do it more effectively?

 

 

Certainly there are ways of improving charity and service to the poor, and I hope they do improve.  I believe the bottom line is that we all want a healthy neighborhood in OTR, and we all want the poor to be helped, but so far there has not been a way to effectively have both of these.  Hopefully through improved transit, more effective social programs, and increased cooperation this can be achieved soon.

Understood Randy, but one last thing.

Please explain how a shelter in the hard to reach suburbs is going to help the average homeless person living in the city?  Oh, the one or two bus lines that go past that area?  The busses that stop running at 12, require money to ride, and all originate from downtown?  I understand the concept you are getting at, but the practicality of your argument just isn't there.

They live at the homeless shelter!  They do not leave there home at 6:00 at night to go stay in the shelter, they are already there.  The real question is how did they get downtown?  Answer that question and you will understand my point.  Next step is to build the affordable housing component to move them up, kids are closer to better schools, away from negative influences and then perhaps that generation will have a chance.  The practicality ends at the reluctance of the current residence to ever consider anything like this.

 

but i believe what Moeller is doing is trying to help

There is no but, they are trying to help and are.  This is not about the helpers, it is about the one's who need the help.  We have lost sight of this one simple true.

Randy,

 

Isn't there one more?

Yup...it was already posted, but I'll repost all 3 so that they don't get lost in the shuffle.

 

Trinity Lofts Elevation(s):

 

Overall Site Map:

 

14th & Vine Lofts (looking SW):

 

I love it! I want to see some nice accent color on the facades, like they did with The Gateway Quarter and various properties on Main Street.

^

I am getting really excited for this phase. Phase one can feel like an island, but as this surge continues we will see the community take a new shape and become a great sense of pride in cincinnati. I really like the building on the corner with the round turret, for lack of a better term, and those protruding balconies on the other side will create a greater environment with activity happening at different levels.

 

Does anyone know the time frame for this phase?