I'm all for it, as long as these people don't start voting against progress in municipal elections.

I'm fine with it as long as we don't lose the Cincinnati "Please?"

Or calling green peppers "mangoes"!

 

 

New housing development opens in OTR Tuesday

 

By: Annette Peagler, [email protected]

 

CINCINNATI - A new housing development officially opened Tuesday in Over-the-Rhine.

The first phase of North Rhine Heights opened with a ribbon cutting ceremony by city officials at 10 a.m. Tuesday.The Model Group Community housing development includes 13 properties with 65 fully renovated apartments. The apartments are located in the 100 block of East McMicken, north of Liberty Street. Two of the historic buildings within the community will be LEED Certified.

 

^^ Hooray!  It doesn't get the press that 3CDC projects tend to, but affordable quality housing is also really important for a quality city, and can help keep OTR from becoming just a yuppie playground.

^ Where can you get information about renting them?? Or see floor plans or a contact number? Anything?

^ Where can you get information about renting them?? Or see floor plans or a contact number? Anything?

 

You might try contacting the developers, the Model Group:

 

Model Group

2170 Gilbert Avenue

Cincinnati, Ohio 45206

513.559.0048

 

It's all section 8 housing, so unless you make less than $25,000, you can't live there. Is that reverse discrimination??. That is income cap for a 1 bedroom for that project and the resident pays 30% of their income, the rest is subsidized.

makes sense why there is no website or other information available.

makes sense why there is no website or other information available.

 

And it turns out there's already a waiting list!

 

http://www.building-cincinnati.com/2012/06/north-rhine-heights-open-for-business.html

Yay! More section 8 in OTR! *sarcasm*

 

I've been told by a friend at Model the subsidized rents (what people actually pay) will be closer to $250-450 per unit with the government covering the remainder.

These properties were completely rehabbed in the 1990s at significant expense.

 

Why they have to be completely rehabbed again is the real story.

They will probably have to b completely rehabbed AGAIN 10 years from now. This same friend told me several of the places on vine, 13th & republic  that were completely rehabbed in 2007 already have major damage and look like hell. Walls smashed, counters and carpets destroyed. They're considering having to rehab them again in the next 5 years. Such a waste of money.

 

When you have almost no responsibility you don take care of anything (think wild college frat guys, except there you're force to grow up after 4-5 years).

They will probably have to b completely rehabbed AGAIN 10 years from now. This same friend told me several of the places on vine, 13th & republic  that were completely rehabbed in 2007 already have major damage and look like hell. Walls smashed, counters and carpets destroyed. They're considering having to rehab them again in the next 5 years. Such a waste of money.

 

When you have almost no responsibility you don take care of anything (think wild college frat guys, except there you're force to grow up after 4-5 years).

 

Are you referring to Section 8 tenants?

These properties were completely rehabbed in the 1990s at significant expense.

 

Why they have to be completely rehabbed again is the real story.

 

So, are you going to tell us?

 

...

^ i believe Jskinner is referring to what I just said-  Many of these units (which were built VERY nice under the impression if you give someone a nice subsidized unit maybe they'll take more care of it) are now quickly worn down because many tenants have little responsibility towards maintaining them and rarely are punished by landlords. Their rent is determined by their income, if they make less, they pay less- so it's not like there is a drive to succeed as a requirement for residency.

 

Programs that include renter equity (Cornerstone, etc.) and that have strict and strong management and associated programs often work better- but at the same time, you can't give someone something for way less than it's value and expect them to treat it for anything more than what they paid for it.  That applies to ALL people.  You give a 16 year old kid a new mercedes and he's less likely to take care of it than if he works after school every day to buy himself a used honda. It's part of the human condition (obviously there are always exceptions and not everyone is the same). 

 

But the person who paid $180 a month for a $750 a month place is likely to mentally value that place at $180, not the fully subsidized value because they didn't pay it, they don't see it, and they probably aren't even aware that that's the full value. they pay what they're required to and that is the cost they realize. 

 

Spending millions of tax dollars on more, nicer, subsidized housing also doesn't help get someone OUT of subsidized housing.  The goal, from birth, should be that any government subsidy helps ween you OFF of government subsidies by pushing you towards independence.  They shouldn't continue every program indefinitely.

 

I remember when they were moving tenants from the Metropole to build the 21C, the news paper quoted one 60 year old lady who had lived in subsidized housing since she was a child, including 25 years at the metropole. That's a bunch of crap! Everyone struggles and needs a safety net sometimes while they get back on their feet, but that net shouldn't double as a hammock.

 

Back to OTR... I heard Mercer is breaking ground next week.

^Actually it appears that some work has already begun in the buildings facing Walnut St. 

^Yeah. It's a shame.

 

Mercer Commons groundbreaking is Tuesday, June 26 at 10:30am

 

Washington Park ribboncutting will take place on the bandstand at 10am, Friday, July 6.

What's extra frustrating about this discussion is that these subsidized units could undoubetdly be rented to the public right now, likely at a premium....to people who would take care of the builings, spend money in the neighborhood, generate more taxable income, etc. The rental demand for housing for YPs and the like is huge right now, but there is simply not enough supply. The neighborhood will be unable to continue growing if more people cannot move down there.

 

This is on top of the fact that subsidized housing brings a whole slew of other concerns with it...ones we don't need in OTR right now.

^ i believe Jskinner is referring to what I just said-  Many of these units (which were built VERY nice under the impression if you give someone a nice subsidized unit maybe they'll take more care of it) are now quickly worn down because many tenants have little responsibility towards maintaining them and rarely are punished by landlords. Their rent is determined by their income, if they make less, they pay less- so it's not like there is a drive to succeed as a requirement for residency.

 

Programs that include renter equity (Cornerstone, etc.) and that have strict and strong management and associated programs often work better- but at the same time, you can't give someone something for way less than it's value and expect them to treat it for anything more than what they paid for it.  That applies to ALL people.  You give a 16 year old kid a new mercedes and he's less likely to take care of it than if he works after school every day to buy himself a used honda. It's part of the human condition (obviously there are always exceptions and not everyone is the same). 

 

But the person who paid $180 a month for a $750 a month place is likely to mentally value that place at $180, not the fully subsidized value because they didn't pay it, they don't see it, and they probably aren't even aware that that's the full value. they pay what they're required to and that is the cost they realize. 

 

Spending millions of tax dollars on more, nicer, subsidized housing also doesn't help get someone OUT of subsidized housing.  The goal, from birth, should be that any government subsidy helps ween you OFF of government subsidies by pushing you towards independence.  They shouldn't continue every program indefinitely.

 

I remember when they were moving tenants from the Metropole to build the 21C, the news paper quoted one 60 year old lady who had lived in subsidized housing since she was a child, including 25 years at the metropole. That's a bunch of crap! Everyone struggles and needs a safety net sometimes while they get back on their feet, but that net shouldn't double as a hammock.

 

Back to OTR... I heard Mercer is breaking ground next week.

 

This is a landlord problem, not a subsidized problem.  There are plenty of people who don't have direct fiscal responsibility over their living arrangement because others take care of it for them, and they abuse their living space.  The people picking up the tab are not poor and the bill is not cut-rate.

 

We shouldn't hope that OTR becomes a place where the working class has no place.

This is a landlord problem, not a subsidized problem.  There are plenty of people who don't have direct fiscal responsibility over their living arrangement because others take care of it for them, and they abuse their living space.  The people picking up the tab are not poor and the bill is not cut-rate.

 

We shouldn't hope that OTR becomes a place where the working class has no place.

 

There is not a single bit of this that I understand. Please elaborate.

I remember when they were moving tenants from the Metropole to build the 21C, the news paper quoted one 60 year old lady who had lived in subsidized housing since she was a child, including 25 years at the metropole. That's a bunch of crap! Everyone struggles and needs a safety net sometimes while they get back on their feet, but that net shouldn't double as a hammock.

 

Ohio minimum wage = 7.70/hour

 

at 40 hours a week, that's $308 a week, averaging out to $1,334.67  a month. Before tax, of course. After tax you're looking at maybe $1050. Maybe.

 

Fair market rate for Hamilton County for an efficiency is $471.  You now have under $600/month to pay utilities, buy clothes, feed yourself, pay for medical expenses, try to save, et cetera.

 

Now try to imagine raising a kid on minimum wage, where the fair market rent for a 1BR is about $560 a month and for a 2BR is about $720 a month.

 

I'm not saying that there haven't been problems with the way subsidized housing has been handled, but that fact doesn't change the very real need for subsidized housing.  Subsidized housing is better for our city than increased amounts of homeless folks, no?

 

Moreover, the dream for OTR for a very long time has been a mixed-income neighborhood.  I think you can't currently have that without subsidized housing if you want the exterior quality of the buildings to be up to snuff across the neighborhood.

 

I'm not saying that there haven't been problems with the way subsidized housing has been handled, but that fact doesn't change the very real need for subsidized housing.  Subsidized housing is better for our city than increased amounts of homeless folks, no?

 

Moreover, the dream for OTR for a very long time has been a mixed-income neighborhood.  I think you can't currently have that without subsidized housing if you want the exterior quality of the buildings to be up to snuff across the neighborhood.

 

Nobody is disputing the need for subsidized housing to exist on some level. You concede there are problems in the way that subsidized housing is handled. The problem, as it specifically relates to OTR and mentioned by mcadrenaline, is that while new units of subsidized housing are added, there is actually a market demand that is not being met. I always thought that the Section 8 program was designed to eliminate the need for public housing - to allow those with vouchers to live anywhere with the assistance they need. I understand that in practice it is not so simple, and many people do not want to live next to someone getting Section 8 assistance. I am curious to know how it has played out in Mt. Lookout where new Section 8 residents have been living in that typically middle to upper middle class neighborhood for the last couple years. 

 

Nobody is disputing the need for subsidized housing to exist on some level. You concede there are problems in the way that subsidized housing is handled. The problem, as it specifically relates to OTR and mentioned by mcadrenaline, is that while new units of subsidized housing are added, there is actually a market demand that is not being met.

 

Sure, but the completion of new subsidized housing units does not preclude new market-rate units being created.  By the logic you stated above, we shouldn't be building any subsidized housing in OTR until the demand for market-rate housing subsides in the neighborhood.  Also, the Model Group did these north of Liberty where there's been very little redevelopment so far. It's almost like parallel tracks of development.  now if 3CDC said that they were going to halt market-rate expansion for a while to concentrate on subsidized housing, that'd be different and way more concerning.  This is the first group of subsidized units that I can remember being brought online in OTR in a while, but maybe I'm not remembering other examples - feel free to correct me!

 

I always thought that the Section 8 program was designed to eliminate the need for public housing - to allow those with vouchers to live anywhere with the assistance they need. I understand that in practice it is not so simple, and many people do not want to live next to someone getting Section 8 assistance. I am curious to know how it has played out in Mt. Lookout where new Section 8 residents have been living in that typically middle to upper middle class neighborhood for the last couple years.

 

I'd be curious to know how this is going too!

the dream for OTR for a very long time has been a mixed-income neighborhood.

 

More of the same doesn't make it mixed. If OTR has a housing problem, it is in addressing the demand for the vast middle part of the market. A little bit of high end plus a lot of low end isn't sustainable.

 

I'd be curious to know who oversees these projects as they deteriorate overtime and what sort of accountability is enforced. The fact that people are saying these places will be ruined in a few years is deeply troubling and part of the same sad cycle OTR has had to struggle with for years. Frankly, I expect more out of OTRCH and Model. It's tiring to learn of more high density low income development when we know that model doesn't work. 3CDC incorporates affordable housing into its developments without concentrating it.

 

Could Model turn the property into a mix with market rate housing at some point?

 

It's late so maybe I'm not thinking right but this is annoying. I hope the property is taken care of and the people living there appreciate and respect it.

This is a landlord problem, not a subsidized problem.  There are plenty of people who don't have direct fiscal responsibility over their living arrangement because others take care of it for them, and they abuse their living space.  The people picking up the tab are not poor and the bill is not cut-rate.

 

We shouldn't hope that OTR becomes a place where the working class has no place.

 

There is not a single bit of this that I understand. Please elaborate.

 

College kids?  Young adults that still lean on their families for considerable financial assistance?  The parents of these groups aren't putting their kids into Section 8 housing, they're paying market rate.  That doesn't mean those young people value that living space any more than poor people living a few doors down on Section 8.

 

The poorest of America's poor inhabited OTR exclusively from 1960-2008.  Now I fear that there are some that are so excited about OTR's potential that they might forget how unjust it would be to push the poor aside for the educated and wealthy's next pet project.  If you want every unit in OTR to be 100k and up with four-figure rents sprinkled between, I want solutions from you on how to treat the poor with some human decency.  Shoving them off to Price Hill creates no long-term competitiveness for Cincinnati and diminishes any tax relief the city may see with increasing property values and investment payoff on OTR's edifices.

 

Could you imagine being black, growing up in OTR, being pushed off to the Westside & turning on the TV to see affluent whites pointing the finger at you and bored youth with zero opportunity for the stagnation of the neighborhood prior to 2008 and 3CDC?  This has already happened and will happen more as the area continues to gentrify.

 

 

The current PlasmaCare space at 1116 Main will soon be a US Bank branch.  Seems like a big win for the area. 

 

I'm not sure where PlasmaCare is going but I know they have space a few doors down.

Are they keeping the US Bank at Orchard and Sycamore open?

The plasma place has been closed for at least a year, if not longer. 

 

There is a US Bank on Sycamore next to Nicola's as well as the one on Court St.  Is this bank an added branch or is another going to be lost?

The plasma place has been closed for at least a year, if not longer. 

 

There is a US Bank on Sycamore next to Nicola's as well as the one on Court St.  Is this bank an added branch or is another going to be lost?

 

Not sure.  Clearly I'm not familiar enough with the existing area to know PlasmaCare was gone.  I believe the branch shared with Nicola's is extremely small so it wouldn't surprise me if they close that one and move to Main.  The new location is pretty much the same space as a typical suburban branch minus the drive through.

Nicker66,

 

Do you know 100% for sure that PlasmaCare is planning on relocating to another Main St. location? If so, that is a problem. A big one.

Nicker66,

Do you know 100% for sure that PlasmaCare is planning on relocating to another Main St. location? If so, that is a problem. A big one.

 

 

The only fact is that US Bank will start construction at 1116 Main St. in July.  I thought it was newsworthy to have a bank branch close to most of the redevelopment. 

Nicker66,

 

Do you know 100% for sure that PlasmaCare is planning on relocating to another Main St. location? If so, that is a problem. A big one.

 

The downtown plasma care location closed 2/28/2011. I don't understand your big problem comment.

 

Ohio minimum wage = 7.70/hour

 

at 40 hours a week, that's $308 a week, averaging out to $1,334.67  a month. Before tax, of course. After tax you're looking at maybe $1050. Maybe.

 

Fair market rate for Hamilton County for an efficiency is $471.  You now have under $600/month to pay utilities, buy clothes, feed yourself, pay for medical expenses, try to save, et cetera.

 

Now try to imagine raising a kid on minimum wage, where the fair market rent for a 1BR is about $560 a month and for a 2BR is about $720 a month.

 

I'm not saying that there haven't been problems with the way subsidized housing has been handled, but that fact doesn't change the very real need for subsidized housing.  Subsidized housing is better for our city than increased amounts of homeless folks, no?

 

Moreover, the dream for OTR for a very long time has been a mixed-income neighborhood.  I think you can't currently have that without subsidized housing if you want the exterior quality of the buildings to be up to snuff across the neighborhood.

 

You're right that you can't live alone at minimum wage. But when I was broke I lived in a crappy apartment with three guys and didn't ask the government to pay for the difference. The three of us I KY ended up paying about $250 a month in that arrangement. it was annoying so I was driven to get a better job so I could have my own place one day. Or look at the generalization that many immigrant families put 10-12 people in one house when they first arrive until enough of the family can make find odd jobs to move up in the world. Why does everyone need their own one bedroom for perpetuity??

 

And I get that you can't raise kids at minimum wage. But you know what- I don't have any kids right now because I can't afford them. Whatever happened to decisions like that?  Or share a place with friends or family if you have kids you can't afford.

 

The vast majority of homeless people are homeless due to drug or alcohol addiction or suffer from mental illness, not because there wasn't enough low income housing.

 

And OTR housing units are about 70% subsidized, 30% market rate.

 

It should exist in OTR and we shouldn't be emptying buildings, but I also don't think we should be adding anymore. It's an insatiable goal, to put every individual poor person in a one bedroom apartment. Ridiculous.

^Completely agree.  Also, minimum wage jobs typically are not intended to be a 40-hour per week full time job.  They're usually someone's second job that they do for extra cash or a student's job outside of school hours.  That's not to say that no one works minimum wage 40 hours per week, but that's not the norm.

And I get that you can't raise kids at minimum wage. But you know what- I don't have any kids right now because I can't afford them. Whatever happened to decisions like that?

 

You have an underlying premise of an even playing field. Spend some time in an inner-city high school, meet some teen mothers. They have not been given the tools to fathom such practicalities, yet they are irreversibly parents with children they cannot afford.

You have an underlying premise of an even playing field. Spend some time in an inner-city high school, meet some teen mothers. They have not been given the tools to fathom such practicalities, yet they are irreversibly parents with children they cannot afford.

 

Right, and counselors will tell you that a teen mother from circumstances like that getting an actual full-time minimum-wage job and keeping it would be a success story, relatively speaking.

 

look, I agree that more market-rate housing needs to happen in OTR, and in fact, that's exactly what's going to happen.  It'd just be nice if some of the subsidized housing was actually non-shitty housing.

 

look, I agree that more market-rate housing needs to happen in OTR, and in fact, that's exactly what's going to happen.  It'd just be nice if some of the subsidized housing was actually non-sh!tty housing.

 

Agreed. Moreover, subsidized housing shouldn't get trashed by its inhabitants. There should be some accountability.

 

 

The only fact is that US Bank will start construction at 1116 Main St. in July.  I thought it was newsworthy to have a bank branch close to most of the redevelopment. 

 

Thanks for sharing. I appreciate updates like this.

Moreover, subsidized housing shouldn't get trashed by its inhabitants. There should be some accountability.

 

Absolutely agree with this.

 

Went to MICA 12/V today to do some gift shoppin' and had a nice talk with the owner about how big the changes have been in the past year.  Interesting to hear from a retailer how much of a sea change he's seen.

These properties were completely rehabbed in the 1990s at significant expense.

Why they have to be completely rehabbed again is the real story.

So, are you going to tell us?

 

I honestly don't know the reason.  I think it is mostly poor management but maybe also because of how the financing was originally arranged, that it could only be profitably managed for a 10 year period. 

 

The other problem with these properties is that the storefronts were converted to residences and that is staying.  It makes absolutely no sense to have a bedroom in a first floor storefront window facing Vine Street.  But that is a legacy of the original funding which was from the Federal Government and was for residential only, not mixed use.

I remember when they were moving tenants from the Metropole to build the 21C, the news paper quoted one 60 year old lady who had lived in subsidized housing since she was a child, including 25 years at the metropole. That's a bunch of crap! Everyone struggles and needs a safety net sometimes while they get back on their feet, but that net shouldn't double as a hammock.

 

Ohio minimum wage = 7.70/hour

 

at 40 hours a week, that's $308 a week, averaging out to $1,334.67  a month. Before tax, of course. After tax you're looking at maybe $1050. Maybe.

 

Fair market rate for Hamilton County for an efficiency is $471.  You now have under $600/month to pay utilities, buy clothes, feed yourself, pay for medical expenses, try to save, et cetera.

 

Now try to imagine raising a kid on minimum wage, where the fair market rent for a 1BR is about $560 a month and for a 2BR is about $720 a month.

 

I'm not saying that there haven't been problems with the way subsidized housing has been handled, but that fact doesn't change the very real need for subsidized housing.  Subsidized housing is better for our city than increased amounts of homeless folks, no?

 

Moreover, the dream for OTR for a very long time has been a mixed-income neighborhood.  I think you can't currently have that without subsidized housing if you want the exterior quality of the buildings to be up to snuff across the neighborhood.

 

 

If you don't have the money, don't have a kid. You don't have a constitutional right to reproduce.

 

This country's social policy is stuck in the gear of crazy. We treat substance abuse as a crime instead of a health issue, we dole out social assistance to people because they reproduce irresponsibly, the people who are responsible enough to use birth control end up lowering their own reproduction rate below replacement, people who pay for health insurance are usually subject to copays that deter them from frivolous use of limited health resources...meanwhile we offer no-copay medicaid clinics and no-refusal emergency rooms to a population that uses it superfluously.

 

I could go on. But I'll just get my post off-topic'd.

These properties were completely rehabbed in the 1990s at significant expense.

Why they have to be completely rehabbed again is the real story.

So, are you going to tell us?

 

I honestly don't know the reason.  I think it is mostly poor management but maybe also because of how the financing was originally arranged, that it could only be profitably managed for a 10 year period. 

 

The other problem with these properties is that the storefronts were converted to residences and that is staying.  It makes absolutely no sense to have a bedroom in a first floor storefront window facing Vine Street.  But that is a legacy of the original funding which was from the Federal Government and was for residential only, not mixed use.

 

America has a distressingly large ratio of commercial floor area to residential. I've often wondered how we would sustain converting all of OTR back to its ground-level-storefront original use without addressing the larger issue of miles and miles of decaying retail land use along most of the region's state routes. Do we even need one floor of commercial activity for every 2 or 3 floors of residential, with our modern small household size? I doubt it. Probably more of a function of reduced household sizes and increased home square-feet than a radically reduces need for retails square-feet per capita.

^If you had 3 or 4 contiguous buildings, you might be able to combine the store fronts into a nice lobby, doorman area, small gym, etc.  That would give amenities to the people in the condos on the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th floors.  But again, you'd probably need to have more than a few units to make something like that viable.

^ totally agree.  Unfortunately, there's no rent to be gained in lobby's or common areas for apartment dwellers :) so some developers are less interested knowing that they can still rent these units without the extra amenities. 

 

3CDC sort of did that a little bit with Parvis, there are two storefronts that are actually lobby-type spaces, but they didn't use it as an opportunity to do a rec room or gym space.

Some of the pillars at Washington Park will feature tiles by Rookwood Pottery:

 

America has a distressingly large ratio of commercial floor area to residential. I've often wondered how we would sustain converting all of OTR back to its ground-level-storefront original use without addressing the larger issue of miles and miles of decaying retail land use along most of the region's state routes. Do we even need one floor of commercial activity for every 2 or 3 floors of residential, with our modern small household size? I doubt it. Probably more of a function of reduced household sizes and increased home square-feet than a radically reduces need for retails square-feet per capita.

 

Right.  I can see the retail spaces being (eventually) filled on Vine and Main, since those are the arterial streets, as well as the storefront space that abuts Washington Square park.  But Elm, Race north of the park, Walnut, Sycamore, Broadway, etc.? 

 

the only thing I can think is the idea of focusing on offices more than retail.

 

Walked a bunch around OTR this morning before it got too hot.  You can't walk 40 feet without running into a dude with a hard hat!

The neighborhood should focus on nodal commercial development.  Intersections provide great opportunities for retail space and really adds to great sense of place characteristics not to mention increased convenience.  Expecting commercial development along all corridor's ground floors might be unreasonable, but nodal development isn't.   

Y'all are forgetting that when the area developed in the late 1800s, it was along streetcar lines that are now gone.  What this meant is people traveling to downtown from points north reached OTR first.  So there would have been some business from northern neighborhoods beyond what was just within walking distance.  The lines on Main and Vine were the first lines and they carried more traffic because they carried streetcars from McMicken, Clifton, Vine, and Liberty hills. 

 

Lesser-known is the 12th St. line, which crossed the canal east/west at 12th and is the reason why 12th has a big more of a commercial character than any of the other east/west streets in OTR.  I'm going by memory but I don't think Liberty ever had a streetcar line.

 

Y'all are forgetting that when the area developed in the late 1800s, it was along streetcar lines that are now gone.  What this meant is people traveling to downtown from points north reached OTR first.  So there would have been some business from northern neighborhoods beyond what was just within walking distance.  The lines on Main and Vine were the first lines and they carried more traffic because they carried streetcars from McMicken, Clifton, Vine, and Liberty hills. 

 

Lesser-known is the 12th St. line, which crossed the canal east/west at 12th and is the reason why 12th has a big more of a commercial character than any of the other east/west streets in OTR.  I'm going by memory but I don't think Liberty ever had a streetcar line.

 

Liberty had a streetcar from Elm west to Dalton vicinity then it linked north to Spring Grove.

 

A streetcar spur ran off the Sycamore line to Broadway to Liberty Hill and Highland Ave. The link between Sycamore and Broadway was between Cutter Playground and the old SCPA/Woodward HS. It lines up with Woodward Rd between Sycamore and Main. I believe the name of the street was Franklin --- but my memory is foggy and I don't have my maps in front of me.

 

Looks to be at the corner of Green and Vine.

 

A new development is in the works in OTR

 

OVER THE RHINE, OH (FOX19) -

A new development is in the works in Over the Rhine.

 

A group of vacant and blighted properties on Vine St. will be redeveloped by the group Property Acquisitions. The group is steering clear of alcohol in the area because they say it will help to prevent some violence from occurring.

 

The development will cost $1.5 million.