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For those who don't have access to subscriber content can someone tell me what was the proposed project? Is it some type of infill?

 

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Here's how it's described by one of the co-founders:

Felous describes Latitude as a mixture between Soho House, a private members club for the creative industries that's spread across Europe and North America, and WeWork, a national coworking chain.

So would they be rehabing an exsisting structure? Or building infill to support this?

Sounds like an interesting idea that has some talented and experienced people behind it but who in Cincinnati is going to pay $200 to be a member there or $650+ to have a desk there? You can get an entire apartment less than 5 minutes away for that. Or if you really want a workspace, just rent a storefront on Main for $500.

 

Hopefully they lose that big surface lot and fence fronting Liberty.

What bank would lend these guys money?  There is no way this project ever happens.

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2017/03/29/exclusive-otr-getting-a-bowling-alley.html

 

Bowling Alley, Pinball Machines, Shuffle Boards, and more, along with a rooftop bar that will be taking up multiple buildings (the hank exchange buildings) on Main St.

 

Same company as 16 bit, but a new concept, but has proven to me massively popular in Columbus.

 

This is a huge, "get" for Main St. If 16 bit is anything to go by, this should be just as busy, and drive just as much traffic towards main st, if not more.

 

With Ziegler Park almost finished, and this new addition, I feel that Main St will finally get the catalyst for pedestrian traffic it much needed.

I was pleasantly surprised when I found out that Pins would located at the Hanke Exchange. I knew they would eventually open in OTR or the CBD, but to have them on Main Street is huge. It's almost like Main Street is finally developing in a way that links together the OTR development on Race/Vine/Walnut with the Pendleton development on Sycamore/Broadway.

I was just at Pins in downtown Columbus last weekend. We had a great time. Great crowd, the architecture/interiors were well done, lots of beer options ...

Great to see they're going in the Hanke Exchange building.  This would be a great addition to Main St.

We can party like it's 1999 again at Have A Nice Day Café. 

 

Yesterday I told a coworker who is about 25 that there used to be a ton of bars down there and a brewery where the Art Academy is now.  His mind was totally blown. 

I was pleasantly surprised when I found out that Pins would located at the Hanke Exchange. I knew they would eventually open in OTR or the CBD, but to have them on Main Street is huge. It's almost like Main Street is finally developing in a way that links together the OTR development on Race/Vine/Walnut with the Pendleton development on Sycamore/Broadway.

 

Just need to work on the former Neon's space and Joe's Diner...

“All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.”
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Neon's won't stay closed long. As for Joe's Diner, let's keep with the Columbus theme and get Dirty Frank's to open up there.

Nice location. I don't know if it was posted here, but I came across an article on Lexis-Nexis about how the building was set for demolition back in the 1990's. The current owner of the furniture building caddy-corner from it (which had the controversy surrounding its former pending demolition) was the savior of the structure.

If I remember correctly the owner had to do this pretty hastily and managed to save the building the same day as proposed demo or something crazy like that.

4EG is taking over the Neon's space and I don't think they are changing it too much.

We can party like it's 1999 again at Have A Nice Day Café. 

 

Yesterday I told a coworker who is about 25 that there used to be a ton of bars down there and a brewery where the Art Academy is now.  His mind was totally blown. 

Yeah I can't remember their name but they made good beer and had decent pub food too. They reopened on west liberty and were there for a while after getting booted by the Art Academy. Just too far ahead of their time.

 

I also distinctly remember that when you went to that brew pub (in the AA space), you had a feeling of risk, like you had ventured off of the relative safety of Main street and were now in a no-man's land. How times change.

Was a fan of the red legg ale.  That was really one of the few that you saw around town after they moved to the west end.

^The Barrelhouse Brewery

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Over-the-Rhine was recognized as one of “Preservation’s Best of 2016” by Preservation Action, a national group focused on promoting historic preservation. The award highlighted the revitalization of OTR as a success story and recognized the effective use of historic tax credits as one of the driving factors. The City of Cincinnati, the OTR Foundation and 3CDC were presented with the award in a ceremony that took place on March 15, during National Historic Preservation Advocacy Week in Washington, D.C.

 

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Earlier this month, 3CDC held a Ziegler Park Community Input Session at Rothenberg Academy. 3CDC representatives provided an update on the project, and community members offered feedback and suggestions on various aspects and elements of the park, including potential programming and pricing for the pool. Another input session is planned for mid-April.

 

The renovation of Music Hall has led to several unexpected discoveries that are receiving special attention from local preservationists. Surprises that have surfaced along the way will allow people to see the building as it used to be. WCPO recently featured some of the surprises in an online piece and an accompanying TV story.

 

3CDC’s seventh phase of mixed-use development is officially underway and includes renovations of the Stafford and Glassmeyer buildings. Upon completion, these projects will result in multiple street level commercial spaces and residential condo units – some of which will be “micro” units.

 

Available Condos/Townhomes

 

As the temperature has started rising outside, the OTR housing market has also been heating up. This past month, six of the 17 condos at the recently completely Allison went under contract. We’ve listed several other units at this mixed-use development, which is located at 15th and Race streets. Units are also still available at Parvis Lofts, a result of 3CDC’s ongoing conversion of apartments to condos, and only two townhomes remain available at Mercer III. Visit the Condos section of the 3CDC website to view additional condos and townhomes, which are always being added as they become available.

 

Commercial Tenants

 

Play Library, a toy and game loan library for kids of all ages, recently opened for business at 1517 Elm Street. Originally started as a pop-up shop, Play Library opened its doors permanently on March 15 with a Grand Opening Party to celebrate its new brick-and-mortar space. Memberships are now available!

 

MidiCi, a Neopolitan pizza company with a passion for people, recently signed a lease for a 4,630-square-foot space at the 6th & Race corner of the 84.51° building.

 

Be on the lookout later today for the next edition of our Tenant Spotlight series. Last month’s spotlight featured Swoon – an upscale lingerie boutique in OTR. We hope you’re enjoying this unique opportunity to get to know local businesses and their owners.

 

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March 2017 Progress Update

 

THE ALLISON

Previously known as Race Street Condos, units at The Allison are officially complete. Condos are now being sold at the mixed-use development located by the 3CDC Sales Team. Visit the Condos section of the 3CDC website for more information, or to set up a tour.

 

EMPOWER MEDIAMARKETING

Construction continues to progress at the future headquarters of Empower MediaMarketing. All floors have now been poured. Interior plumbing and electrical rough-ins are in process, beginning on the first floor. Exterior framing has begun at the southwest corner of the building and interior framing has started around the interior stairs, restrooms, and electrical rooms. Construction remains on target, with an expected completion date of August 2017.

 

GLASSMEYER

Work on the historic Glassmeyer building is moving along nicely. Exterior masonry work is nearing completion and tuckpointing of the exterior brick will follow. New staircases were installed in the 15th Street building, where only ladders previously existed. Currently, crews are framing the interior walls and fitting out the HVAC, electrical, and plumbing systems, as well as installing insulation throughout. Window installation will also take place in the coming weeks.

 

MUSIC HALL

Over the course of the month, crews have continued to make exciting progress both inside and outside the hall. Inside, the new escalators have been completely installed, the risers have been poured in Springer Auditorium, and cove restoration work continues in Corbett Tower. Outside, masonry restoration work, including brick repair and stone cleaning, has officially begun. For additional details, subscribe to regular project updates, and refer to the archive for past updates.

 

THE STAFFORD

Construction and renovation efforts are well underway at the Stafford, with continuous progress being made. Window installation has begun, and four residential units within the building will feature bedroom skylights. Crews are nearly finished hanging drywall and are on to the first coat of paint. Additionally, they have begun prepping the existing floors for new hardwood and tile.

 

ZIEGLER PARK

Things are coming together at Ziegler Park as the pool and garage have continued taking shape. Although crews experienced minor delays due to inclement weather, construction of the above grade perimeter walls along the south and west sides of the garage are complete, while backfilling and waterproofing work continues. In the pool area, work has been focused on construction of the surge tank and pool equipment building, as well as the pool itself. To learn more, sign up to receive project updates, or browse through the archive.

 

15TH & VINE

At 15th and Vine, augercast piles for the new foundation have been installed throughout the site. Work on the pile caps is scheduled to begin the first week of April. Together, they will form the structural foundation to support the new-construction components of the building. Concrete for the new foundation will be poured in late April through early May. Leasing information is available on the 3CDC website.

4EG is taking over the Neon's space and I don't think they are changing it too much.

 

They sure don't seem to be moving quickly...

 

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My friend went to otr for the first time today with me to see the parade. He wanted to buy an umbrella and asked if their were any convenient stores nearby so he can buy one....

 

Just made me realize otr could definitely use a few cvs/Walgreens like locations throughout otr. I know 3cdc is targeting bars/restaurants typically but it would really be nice to get some more neighborhood necessities retail spots rather than another overpriced coffee shop.

^The Barrelhouse Brewery

 

I had a pretty fun night there. After that a woman on the street invited me to a bbq....that her family was having on the sidewalk.

 

A very fun night.

My friend went to otr for the first time today with me to see the parade. He wanted to buy an umbrella and asked if their were any convenient stores nearby so he can buy one....

 

Just made me realize otr could definitely use a few cvs/Walgreens like locations throughout otr. I know 3cdc is targeting bars/restaurants typically but it would really be nice to get some more neighborhood necessities retail spots rather than another overpriced coffee shop.

 

I've heard similar stories about people asking, "where can I buy a pack of gum?"  Other than the Kroger on Vine, nowhere.

There are actually little bodegas all over OTR. Grocery stores - no. Bodegas - yes.

Idk about umbrellas, but New York Groceries on Main is larger than the average corner store & is trying to stock a wider variety of items.

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Yeah please not a Walgreen's. They would likely attempt to tear down something nice to put in a faux historic building with a parking lot. Recall the Bishop's mansion. Maybe just a well organized local drugstore. Something like the new hardware store.

If the only place you can find a pack of gum is the Kroger on Vine than one is simply not looking very hard.

Idk about umbrellas, but New York Groceries on Main is larger than the average corner store & is trying to stock a wider variety of items.

 

Is everything in New York called Cincinnati?

I can't think of any convenience stores on Elm, Vine, or Walnut. There are a few on Main, one on 12th at Race, one on Elm near Liberty.

^There's one at the SW corner of Vine and Liberty. There's also the Shell station. I know it has its issues, but it does sell a few of the things mentioned.

 

EDIT: Also, there's the one at Walnut/McMicken, Vine/McMicken and the one at Lang and E. Clifton. Also several along Vine street between Liberty/McMicken

Short stop has bailed me out numerous times over the years.

The son of Ed Moss has made a facebook post and plea for money with the intention of keeping Schwartz's Point Jazz Club alive.  He says the building needs $16,000 in repairs.  Frankly it looks like it needs a lot more than that! 

^There's one at the SW corner of Vine and Liberty. There's also the Shell station. I know it has its issues, but it does sell a few of the things mentioned.

 

EDIT: Also, there's the one at Walnut/McMicken, Vine/McMicken and the one at Lang and E. Clifton. Also several along Vine street between Liberty/McMicken

 

Yeah, I should have said, I'm just talking about South of Liberty. For the person visiting restaurants or bars on Race/Vine/Walnut, there's not a convenient place for them to stop in without walking over to Main or up to Liberty. Not that it's a huge deal...but it's a complaint that I've heard from people before.

The son of Ed Moss has made a facebook post and plea for money with the intention of keeping Schwartz's Point Jazz Club alive.  He says the building needs $16,000 in repairs.  Frankly it looks like it needs a lot more than that! 

 

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There's also Tina's, on the northeast corner of Walnut and Liberty. You can get a pack of gum and a cell phone and chicken by the piece (the flats and drums aren't separated if I'm remembering correctly).

There's also Tina's, on the northeast corner of Walnut and Liberty. You can get a pack of gum and a cell phone and chicken by the piece (the flats and drums aren't separated if I'm remembering correctly).

 

The have both the non-separated wings and the "Party" wings

So the new race street 4 story infill was in the new hcb packet today. I always have trouble understanding them but it read like the Hcb had serious issues with the design and the demolition of the 2 properties

Well this is going to be interesting. Looks to me like good design & good urbanism, something I would like for the neighborhood, but doesn't meet the historic guidelines or the zoning code giving NIMBYs plenty of ammo.

 

In this packet city staff is arguing for density reduction to "meet the code" and the inclusion of parking within the structure. This line of thinking is not in line with urbanist values and vision for the neighborhood.

 

As far as architectural guidelines go, we need to recognize what we have written down on paper is downright byzantine and convoluted and could be used to oppose even a project of the utmost quality if so desired.

 

 

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Why do we have parking requirements? Why is it automatically assumed that everyone living their will be owning a veichle?

Idk. This project is in between the WP and Gateway quarter garages right outside a streetcar stop. Literally time to decide if we are going to be a sleepy Midwestern burg where everyone is guaranteed a parking spot right in front of where ever they're going, or if we are going to be a big city.

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Most zoning codes were put into place when we believed that cars were the future. Citizens attempted to replace our outdated zoning code with a form-based code, but this effort was squashed when the current mayor got into office.

Most zoning codes were put into place when we believed that cars were the future. Citizens attempted to replace our outdated zoning code with a form-based code, but this effort was squashed when the current mayor got into office.

 

The problem is the zoning code by its very nature disallows way more than it allows, so anyone can use it to fight against almost anything they don't like. Having to petition for a variance seems to be the rule rather than the exception.

 

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The packet did talk about that developer in talks with 3cdc on leasing parking spaces.

 

Regarding the design I like it but I would be lying if I didn't say their was something a little "off" looking about it, for better or for worse.

^ and just to get the full picture, 1218 Race, which is proposed to be demolished, is listed as non-contributing because of it's ugly façade, but it is a 130 year old beer hall.

I don't understand why the zoning code just allows developers to build with parking or without parking, it is their money and their choice to risk it or not.

 

Of course then as everyone mentioned, it gives opponents the chance to pick it apart.  I understand frustration for residents but look at all the massive areas close to here which are sitting as surface lots.  Get mad at the city for not developing those surface lots with more parking, don't get mad at the developers

This is an attractive project with an interesting site plan. I wasn't expecting it to be two buildings separated by a courtyard with open air circulation.

 

If I had to guess what will happen we'll likely see the first floor of the rear building turned into parking (unless the developer gets spaces from a deal with 3CDC), the top floor of the rear building is removed (because of some idiotic romanticized perception of OTR where nothing is 6+ stories tall despite that being inaccurate), and the top floor of the front building revised to be less visible from the sidewalk across Race.

 

All bad changes. Cincinnati's historic conservation board is a joke. They do more harm than they do good.

^ and just to get the full picture, 1218 Race, which is proposed to be demolished, is listed as non-contributing because of it's ugly façade, but it is a 130 year old beer hall.

 

What is the interior like today and what has it been used for most recently? From the outside, the facade is definitely "non-contributing" (if anything, those glass block windows detract from the historic district).

There are guys that, until recently, ran a screen printing business out of that building. They bought it for cheap years ago and just sold it to the developer this past winter.

Seems strange a building is non contributing simply because of a destroyed facade. The brick work and rear are still 130 years old regardless. Not sure what the logic was with that.

Well, what DOES a brick box with no remaining architectural elements contribute?  At some point you have to draw the line. 

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