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  • He should be fined for blocking the streetcar tracks and causing the downtown loop to be shut down for several days, though.

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    The Smithall building at the Northwest corner of Vine and W. Clifton is looking good with the plywood first floor removed and new windows installed 

  • You could say that about every historic building in OTR. "What's the point in saving this one Italianate building? it's just like every other one in the neighborhood."   The value in a histo

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1 hour ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

Here is the site:

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You can see that they will likely build detached rear garages that open onto the condo complex parking lot.  That means they will likely have to pay a nominal fee into the HOA.  

Will be a great street once all of the lots are developed which I’m assuming will happen at some point. 

12 hours ago, Ucgrad2015 said:

Will be a great street once all of the lots are developed which I’m assuming will happen at some point. 

 

Yes, it'll be quite pleasant 

I know Willkommen has been shared here before, but only two of the three new construction projects have had their renderings shared; the project at Republic and the project at Pleasant and Liberty. The Vine Street project rendering was shared today on GBBN's latest insight on affordable housing, is now on the project page, and I wanted to share here. While you're there, sign up for the mailing list. It's a project I'm very proud of and I look forward to the armchair architecture critics to damage that pride. Just kidding, I have thick skin. Enjoy. https://www.gbbn.com/insights/putting-home-at-the-heart-of-affordable-housing/

They look really nice! I love all the brickwork!

I hadn't paid attention to Willkommen. Wow I am amazed and so pleased that this infill has been approved by HCB. It seems like this project will raise our level of expectations for what's possible (not to mention feasible to get approved). Which has been needed for some time now.

On 1/9/2020 at 4:48 PM, tonyalexander said:

The grade beams for Somerset got poured today. You should start seeing walls go up very soon. We can't wait for you all to come check it out once we open!

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Walls are up, I'm glad to see this project still moving along, as it looks to be an amazing place to hang out someday when life is normal again. IMG_2414.thumb.jpg.b85a5d36c071d55670f229f645071a56.jpg

3 hours ago, jim uber said:

I hadn't paid attention to Willkommen. Wow I am amazed and so pleased that this infill has been approved by HCB. It seems like this project will raise our level of expectations for what's possible (not to mention feasible to get approved). Which has been needed for some time now.

 

This project would not be allowed as is under the proposed Historic District Infill guidelines currently on the way to HCB.

 

The HCB hearing on them is Aug 3. 

 

If anybody on this forum would like to register their opinion to HCB or Planning Commission, now is the time!

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3 hours ago, ucgrady said:

Walls are up, I'm glad to see this project still moving along, as it looks to be an amazing place to hang out someday when life is normal again. IMG_2414.thumb.jpg.b85a5d36c071d55670f229f645071a56.jpg

 

Yeah we're still moving, just a lot slower since there's no rush to open in 2020. The roof on that structure will be an all-glass a-frame and the front will be all windows as well. It's going to be a super cool space!

3 hours ago, JYP said:

 

This project would not be allowed as is under the proposed Historic District Infill guidelines currently on the way to HCB.

 

The HCB hearing on them is Aug 3. 

 

If anybody on this forum would like to register their opinion to HCB or Planning Commission, now is the time!

 

Willkommen looks awesome! Kudos to all involved. 

 

Now I am worried about these guidelines. What is this all about? Why would anyone not want projects like this?!

19 hours ago, tonyalexander said:

 

Yeah we're still moving, just a lot slower since there's no rush to open in 2020. The roof on that structure will be an all-glass a-frame and the front will be all windows as well. It's going to be a super cool space!

 

Can't wait for when things get back to normal again so I can come and check out your place when it opens! Super stoked!

18 hours ago, Miami-Erie said:

 

Willkommen looks awesome! Kudos to all involved. 

 

Now I am worried about these guidelines. What is this all about? Why would anyone not want projects like this?!

The new guidelines are absurd. 

 

They start out by (appropriately) mourning the loss of 50% of the historic fabric since 1930, through decay and teardowns. Then the guidelines are totally hinged on restricting deviations from the average massing, height, rhythm... (by various metrics) from what buildings currently exist on the "block face". I think it's stupid to have those sorts of absolute restrictions (especially as they are severe - e.g. 10% deviation from average height), but it is completely nonsensical to try to preserve historical context, by only counting the 50% of history that you currently have.

 

I'm trying to get a foothold here for a simple argument. I think, at minimum, if we're going to have averages taken  on these various features, then they should be computed from what was there historically. And I also think that 10% deviations from an average block face height (for example) is unworkable and the deviation must be increased. So, you have a block face with 10 buildings, 5 of them 3 story (40 ft) and 5 of them 4 story (52 ft). So the average height is like 46 feet, and your allowable infill height becomes 41.4' to 50.6'. So you can't actually build either a 3 story or 4 story building, with the exact historical dimensions.

 

It's always dangerous to use too much math in guidelines like this. These are just too specific and narrow, and the result is going to be many cases where they're proven to not make any sense. This is a good example of non-expert but well-meaning volunteerism, run amok. 

Findlay Playground re-opened over the weekend. They left fences up on Findlay St, so you can only access the park from the east (Vine) or south (Republic). I'm not sure if CRC intends on keeping it "closed" to Findlay St or not. Yesterday, I took a few photos:

 

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^I noticed this week that the trees along Vine grew a ton this year.  I don't know if they were planning to chop them down this year so didn't bother trimming them, or what.  

OUR VIEW: Need for OTR Special Improvement District is clear

 

In late February, we officially announced our goal of creating a new Special Improvement District (SID) in the southern portion of Over-the-Rhine. A SID provides services for a specific neighborhood or business district that go above and beyond what a local jurisdiction can provide, offering an elevated level of service to property owners within the district.

 

Given the progress that has been made in OTR over the past 15 years, we felt like the time was right to formally implement a SID. Based on hundreds of examples around the country, we believe it will not only improve the quality of life in the neighborhood but will lead to additional growth and development.

 

To establish a formal SID, which is generally paid for through increased property assessments to those who live in the district, property owners representing 60% of the front footage in the district must vote to support the SID. We began collecting votes on Feb.18, 2020.

 

Then the Covid-19 pandemic hit, and everyone’s lives were impacted. Due to the uncertainty surrounding Covid-19, we paused our efforts promoting the SID and extended the deadline for individuals to submit their votes. We recognized that individuals’ priorities were rightfully focused on other matters, so we asked that people concentrate on the health and safety of themselves and their families, rather than worrying about their SID petition. We were also curious to see how the neighborhood would be impacted by Ohio’s Stay At Home Order and the closing of non-essential businesses.

 

Full article below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/07/29/our-view-need-for-otr-special-improvement-district.html

 

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I noticed a "for lease" by 3CDC sign in the window of 1300 Main St. Previously, this storefront was occupied by Goods, which has moved across the street to 1317 Main. 

 

I tried to see the history of who owns (owned) the building and the auditors site shows that it was transferred in December 2019 (seemingly to a Model Group owned LLC), but doesn't have any ownership prior to that. Anybody know why that would be the case? Perhaps it used to be consolidated with an adjacent property? 

 

https://wedge.hcauditor.org/view/re/0750004038000/2019/transfers

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Does anyone know what happened at the August 3 HCB meeting, where the proposed new OTR historic district development guidelines were discussed?

2 hours ago, jim uber said:

Does anyone know what happened at the August 3 HCB meeting, where the proposed new OTR historic district development guidelines were discussed?

I didn't attend, but I heard that the board recommended approval of the new guidelines. I think it'll go on to City Council next. 

Latest round (Round 24) of Historic Tax Credits was just announced by the State. Here are recipients of projects in OTR/Pendleton. 

 

Update: I tried to find the developers associated with each project. The last couple are owned by LLCs that I don't recognize. 

 

30 E. 15th (Cincinnati, Hamilton County) 

(Developer: Model Group)

Total Project Cost: $2,209,137

Total Tax Credit: $220,000

Address: 30 E. 15th St., Cincinnati, 45202

The building at 30 E. 15th is part of the final phase of the Broadway Square project in Cincinnati's Pendleton area of Over-the-Rhine. The larger project includes more than 20 buildings and has reactivated more than 100 apartments. This building, when completed, will have four units, one per floor. A distinct set of bay windows on the second and third floors of the primary facade will be retained and repaired.

 

56 E. McMicken front (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)

(Developer: Northcrown)

Total Project Cost: $1,097,132

Total Tax Credit: $154,526

Address: 56 E. McMicken Ave. front, Cincinnati, 45202

A four-story building with first-floor commercial space and upper-floor apartments, this building was constructed in 1879. After rehabilitation, the building will have eight studio and one-bedroom apartments and a first-floor bar. The exterior of the building retains its Italianate features, including cornice and window hoods that will be repaired and retained. It is paired with the building on the rear of the lot also receiving a credit allocation this round.

 

56 E. McMicken rear (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)

(Developer: Northcrown)

Total Project Cost: $731,422

Total Tax Credit: $90,299

Address: 56 E. McMicken Ave. rear, Cincinnati, 45202

This three-story residential building served residents starting around 1865 until it was vacated several years ago. Located on the northern side of the Over-the-Rhine neighborhood, the building is in an area still suffering from neglect and disinvestment. Five one- and two-bedroom apartments will be completed inside with all new finishes and systems. It is paired with the building on the front of the lot also receiving a credit allocation this round.

 

64 E. McMicken (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)

(Developer: Northcrown)

Total Project Cost: $1,175,720

Total Tax Credit: $116,408

Address: 64 E. McMicken Ave., Cincinnati, 45202

The building at 64 E. McMicken is characteristic of the Over-the-Rhine neighborhood: brick, Italianate, 3 1/2 stories and mixed use. After rehabilitation, six apartments on the upper floors will be made available as well as a first-floor commercial space that will be occupied by a coffee shop.

 

106-108 and 110 E. 14th St. (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)

(Developer: WDC LLC)

Total Project Cost: $1,579,497

Total Tax Credit: $156,370

Address: 106-108 and 110 E. 14th St., Cincinnati, 45202

This project includes two historic buildings in Cincinnati's Over-the-Rhine neighborhood. The buildings have always served a residential use, with a small commercial space in 110, but have been neglected and vacant for many years. After the rehabilitation project, they will have four studio apartments and four one-bedroom apartments. Much historic fabric remains in place and will be repaired, including stairs, wood floors, trim, and doors.

 

1400 Clay Street (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)

(Developer: WDC LLC)

Total Project Cost: $1,481,617

Total Tax Credit: $146,680

Address: 1400 Clay St., Cincinnati, 45202

1400 Clay St. is a four-story Italianate building in Cincinnati's Over-the-Rhine neighborhood. Although it retains many of its exterior historic features, years of unsympathetic renovations have removed much of the interior historic fabric. Once rehabilitated, the building will house seven residential units and a small commercial space on the first floor.

 

1400 & 1408 Walnut Street (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)

(Developer: WDC LLC)

Total Project Cost: $1,867,760

Total Tax Credit: $184,908

Address: 1400, 1408 Walnut St., Cincinnati, 45202

These two buildings on Over-the-Rhine's Walnut Street have stood for more than 140 years. Vacant for years and having lost most of their original historic fabric on the interior, the project will retain and repair what historic features that remain and revitalize the buildings as homes for new residents. Nine apartments and two commercial spaces will be created.

 

1505-1511 Vine St. (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)

(Developer: Over the Rhine Community Housing and 3CDC)

Total Project Cost: $8,883,357

Total Tax Credit: $250,000

Address: 1505-1511 Vine St., Cincinnati, 45202

This project in Cincinnati's Over-the-Rhine neighborhood will rehabilitate a historic building at 1511 Vine and will include the construction of a new building filling the gap of a vacant lot at 1505 Vine. A ground floor commercial space in the historic building will be complemented by new commercial space in the new building. Above, 18 residential units with a mix of one-, two-, and three-bedroom units will be completed.

 

1725 Elm (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)

(Developer: 1725 Elm Street LLC)

Total Project Cost: $1,781,427

Total Tax Credit: $249,999

Address: 1725 Elm St., Cincinnati, 45202

Five stories in height, the building at 1725 Elm St. in Cincinnati's Over-the-Rhine neighborhood was home to a commercial storefront on the first floor and apartments above. After suffering years of vacancy and a fire in its upper floors, the building will be restored to serve its original purpose. In spite of the fire damage and neglect, many historic features remain, including wood trim, stairs, windows, and storefront features.

 

2001 Vine (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)

(Developer: 2001 Vine LLC)

Total Project Cost: $1,499,409

Total Tax Credit: $245,804

Address: 2001 Vine St., Cincinnati, 45202

The building at 2001 Vine in Cincinnati's Over-the-Rhine neighborhood is a triangular shape, sited where Clifton meets Vine. Four stories in height, the first-floor space was commercial with four apartments above. Once home to a series of retail establishments from tire shop, to deli, to electronic store, the commercial space will be occupied by an office tenant.

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32 minutes ago, jwulsin said:

 

2001 Vine (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)

(Developer: 2001 Vine LLC)

Total Project Cost: $1,499,409

Total Tax Credit: $245,804

Address: 2001 Vine St., Cincinnati, 45202

The building at 2001 Vine in Cincinnati's Over-the-Rhine neighborhood is a triangular shape, sited where Clifton meets Vine. Four stories in height, the first-floor space was commercial with four apartments above. Once home to a series of retail establishments from tire shop, to deli, to electronic store, the commercial space will be occupied by an office tenant.

 

Wow, finally this thing is going to get fixed up.  I don't recall this thing being anything but vacant going back to the 90s.  There were still businesses in the Robert A's curve and one across from it just downhill from Mulberry until maybe 2002.  

 

It's this building:

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The owner of 2001 Vine also owns the empty lot across the street at 1932 Vine / 4 E Clifton. Would be amazing to see that lot get infilled, especially with the public stairs. Has potential for an incredibly neat design. 

1 hour ago, jwulsin said:

Latest round (Round 24) of Historic Tax Credits was just announced by the State. Here are recipients of projects in OTR/Pendleton. 

 

 

Is there a link to all of the awards?

Wow just looking at the WDC they are going to get started on a group of buildings which will really help stitch together Vine to Main.

 

Also I am confused how 30 E. 15th Street is considered part of the Broadway Commons development in Pendleton? Anyways good to see the progress continues!!

Looks like this little section of OTR will be buzzing with development. Used to walk by theses buildings all the time and wondered when they would get renovated. Also good to see renovations starting to creep up Walnut st. In a spot that has been kind of an OTR dead zone. 

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3 hours ago, jwulsin said:

The owner of 2001 Vine also owns the empty lot across the street at 1932 Vine / 4 E Clifton. Would be amazing to see that lot get infilled, especially with the public stairs. Has potential for an incredibly neat design. 

The Google Street View timelapse of the Smithall truck in the empty lot is fascinating

3 hours ago, jwulsin said:

The owner of 2001 Vine also owns the empty lot across the street at 1932 Vine / 4 E Clifton. Would be amazing to see that lot get infilled, especially with the public stairs. Has potential for an incredibly neat design. 

Agreed, that intersection and the curve could be one of the most unique areas in Cincinnati with the proper investment and design consideration. 

5 minutes ago, ucgrady said:

Agreed, that intersection and the curve could be one of the most unique areas in Cincinnati with the proper investment and design consideration. 

 

I expect it to get botched by something garish.  

 

Back in January or February I talked to the guy who is renovating 6-7 houses on Lower Ohio that overlook the curve.  He is renovating all of those homes himself and expects it to take several years.  

3 hours ago, nicker66 said:

The Google Street View timelapse of the Smithall truck in the empty lot is fascinating

 

Yeah I've wondered for years what the deal is with that truck. I go through this intersection nearly every day, and have done so for the last 7 years. The truck seems like it was actively used because it would be in slightly different positions pretty regularly. Smithall Electronics seems to still be around, they have a website. In 7 years I've only seen people go in and out of that building a few times.

HCB approved the guidelines but it is still ambiguous if these are law or guidelines.

Next up is the Planning Commission on September 4th, I think. 

Following that it would go to City Council.

Again, the ambiguity of how these guidelines will be enforced have not been clarified.

On 8/5/2020 at 11:40 AM, jwulsin said:

106-108 and 110 E. 14th St. (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)

(Developer: WDC LLC)

Total Project Cost: $1,579,497

Total Tax Credit: $156,370

Address: 106-108 and 110 E. 14th St., Cincinnati, 45202

This project includes two historic buildings in Cincinnati's Over-the-Rhine neighborhood. The buildings have always served a residential use, with a small commercial space in 110, but have been neglected and vacant for many years. After the rehabilitation project, they will have four studio apartments and four one-bedroom apartments. Much historic fabric remains in place and will be repaired, including stairs, wood floors, trim, and doors.

 

I always expected that 106-108 E. 14th would be converted into two single-family townhomes. Interesting that they're making it into 4 apartments.

 

Here's a photo of the building from 2012 before it was painted:

 

 

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10 minutes ago, taestell said:

 

I always expected that 106-108 E. 14th would be converted into two single-family townhomes. Interesting that they're making it into 4 apartments.

 

Here's a photo of the building from 2012 before it was painted:

 

 

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I'm not 100% sure about the layout, but I suspect that 110 E Fourteenth is configured with a central stair case with front and rear units. In which case, I imagine they'll set it up with two 1-bedrooms units (on the front of floors 2 and 3) plus four studios (ground front, and the three floors in the rear). In which case (to make the numbers add up on the Historic Tax Credits summery), the 106-108 would be set up as 1-bedroom units. Historic Tax Credits are typically pretty strict about not removing interior walls, so that's my guess about how they'll configure these buildings. 

 

 

^ Yeah, I was assuming 4 apartments in 106-108 and 4 apartments in 110, but that may not be the case.

Whether by accident or not, I like that they are next door to the Thai rolled ice cream place, it's like a little taste of Thai roadtrip all under one roof.

Have those tiny mansard-roof row houses at Vine and Clifton been rehabbed yet? I haven't been around that part of OTR in quite some time. 

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2 hours ago, BigDipper 80 said:

Have those tiny mansard-roof row houses at Vine and Clifton been rehabbed yet? I haven't been around that part of OTR in quite some time. 

 

Yes I think one of them has.  

Taken 8/24

 

Photo 1: New TownePlace suites 
Photo 2: Kinley hotel (diagonally across from the TownePlace suites)

Photo 3: OTR community housing addition (across from Washington Park)

Photo 4: Two new single family houses (used to be an empty lot around 140 Race st.)

Photo 5: Preservance (5 story infill on Vine st)

Photo 6: Infill on vine street that Is part of the Wilkommen project (if you look at photo 5 this project is right next to the 3 story building on the bottom right hand corner) 

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I wanted to walk up to Findlay  market and take photos of some Of some of the rehabs around that area. Looking up through the Norther part of OTR (North of Liberty) I noticed a couple building in the process of being rehabbed (close to the Shell station). I am also curious about the project that was supposed to take over that parking lot across from Sam adams taproom as I have not heard any news on that. I will try to get up there this week to take some photos. 

On 8/20/2020 at 3:47 PM, BigDipper 80 said:

Have those tiny mansard-roof row houses at Vine and Clifton been rehabbed yet? I haven't been around that part of OTR in quite some time. 

Yeah. 1917-19 appears to be finished and might be occupied. 1921 is nearly finished. I haven't seen any work done on 1923 yet. But it's owned by the same LLC as the rest in that cluster (including the much larger 1925 Vine which was completed a year or two ago and is occupied), so I assume 1923 will get renovated soon. 

 

You can see details on the project in the HCB Packet from January 2018, starting on page 93. 1921 and 1923 are listed as separate projects. I don't see the 1917-19 project, but it might have gone through HCB at some other point. https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/buildings/historic-conservation/historic-conservation-board/january-8-2018-staff-report-and-attachments/

 

Here's a photo of the block from 25 August. There are rush-hour parking restrictions on this block, both otherwise cars are allowed to park there. I'd like to see those rush-hour parking restrictions removed so that parking could be 24/7, providing a buffer to the sidewalk (and those houses):

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15 hours ago, Ucgrad2015 said:

Taken 8/24

 

Photo 1: New TownePlace suites 
Photo 2: Kinley hotel (diagonally across from the TownePlace suites)

Photo 3: OTR community housing addition (across from Washington Park)

Photo 4: Two new single family houses (used to be an empty lot around 140 Race st.)

Photo 5: Preservance (5 story infill on Vine st)

Photo 6: Infill on vine street that Is part of the Wilkommen project (if you look at photo 5 this project is right next to the 3 story building on the bottom right hand corner) 

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In photo 4 with the race street infill, I had to take a double look because I didn't realize those new faux Italianatte homes were actually infill at first. 

15 hours ago, Ucgrad2015 said:

Photo 4: Two new single family houses (used to be an empty lot around 140 Race st.)

 

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While still pretty "meh," at the very least it looks like these have the correct floor-to-floor height and window sizing compared to the horrendous ones they did over on Elm that feel like squat miniature versions of their neighbors.

The cornices are a joke though. The cost of doing a cornice that's properly scaled is so minimal in the whole scheme of things. Such a lazy cop-out. I dislike faux-historic immensely, but if you're going to do it, do it right.

We are close to having just one parking lot (w/ Cincinnati Strongman mural) on the west side of Vine between Central & Liberty. Now the east side is a different story... 

1 hour ago, ink said:

We are close to having just one parking lot (w/ Cincinnati Strongman mural) on the west side of Vine between Central & Liberty. Now the east side is a different story... 

I’m hoping a lot of those lots that are along Central eventually get redeveloped

 

2 hours ago, troeros said:

 

In photo 4 with the race street infill, I had to take a double look because I didn't realize those new faux Italianatte homes were actually infill at first. 

The last time I was down there walking around these hadn’t even started yet. They went up relatively quickly. I’m glad to see these empty lots starting to be built on (though there are some lots that are too small to really build a house on). I did see a few more lots that looked like they were going to soon be built on but did not take photos due to no activity. There’s also a couple of row house and an empty lot (1525 elm st.) that have a fence around them and look to be getting redeveloped, but I’ve walked past them over the past year and honestly have not seen any sort of activity on them. 

2 hours ago, jmicha said:

While still pretty "meh," at the very least it looks like these have the correct floor-to-floor height and window sizing compared to the horrendous ones they did over on Elm that feel like squat miniature versions of their neighbors.

The cornices are a joke though. The cost of doing a cornice that's properly scaled is so minimal in the whole scheme of things. Such a lazy cop-out. I dislike faux-historic immensely, but if you're going to do it, do it right.

 

It's such a shame to me that these are single family houses. Should've had four times as much density here. 

It's a million times easier to finance construction of a single-family house than a small multifamily.  That's just one reason why we won't see many triplexes built in Minneapolis.  I have googled the subject repeatedly in the two years since Urbanist TwitterTM was set alight in self-congratulation and have yet to find news of any under construction.  

Couldn't (many years down the road) someone buy the building and reconfigure the single family home and turn into say a building with 2-3 apartments? I'm just wondering how easily you can reconfigure these single family homes into a few apartments way down the road?

 

Regardless, I always yearn for density on empty lots, but at the same time empty grassy lots look horrible in a urban environment, especially in a historic district. I'm glad, even though they uninspired faux buildings, they add some more, "teeth", to the urban fabric. 

 

 

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