Awesome! This is great news.

What is going on with the old Kroger building?

8 minutes ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

What is going on with the old Kroger building?

 

As in the former OTR Kroger? It was demolished and replaced with a parking lot until future development plans are announced, which I wouldn't expect to happen any time soon.

27 minutes ago, ryanlammi said:

Model Group was awarded an Ohio Historic Preservation Tax Credit for its planned Findlay Parkside development. With 3CDC, Model Group will rehabilitate 20 predominantly vacant buildings around Findlay Playground. The project, which received a $3.1 million state historic tax credit Thursday, is expected to be a total investment of $31.4 million.

 

Model Group is really killing it. I love they way they've been been buying up nearly an entire block of mostly vacant buildings and rehabbing them as 1 project, then moving to the next block and repeating.

This is great news for northern OTR.  Vine St north of Liberty is a ghost town but the building stock is great there.  

Wow great news. Finally development on Vine Street north of Liberty. Those sections of streetscape are really fabulous.

 

Before COVID I was really hoping this corridor would be all office for tech companies but it sounds like the restaurant Row will continue. They will need some structure parking soon.

 

Model also doing a ton of work in Walnut Hills with some huge projects.

I'm not sure if we can really support a "restaurant row" all the way from 12th to McMicken. From what I've heard, some of the restaurants on Vine were struggling before the pandemic started for multiple reasons. Even though most of the permanent closures will be blamed on COVID, it's also due to increased competition with more high end restaurant and bar options opening up in other NBDs across the city — and in some cases, those restaurants' own suburban locations. I know I'm always pushing this argument, but it's yet another reason we need to change the way 3CDC and city leadership thinks about OTR. It needs to become a true mixed use neighborhood with residential, office, and retail, with a mix of residents of all income levels, more businesses that are oriented towards neighborhood residents, and some office tenants that will keep the neighborhood active in the middle of the day.

25 minutes ago, taestell said:

I'm not sure if we can really support a "restaurant row" all the way from 12th to McMicken. From what I've heard, some of the restaurants on Vine were struggling before the pandemic started for multiple reasons. Even though most of the permanent closures will be blamed on COVID, it's also due to increased competition with more high end restaurant and bar options opening up in other NBDs across the city — and in some cases, those restaurants' own suburban locations. I know I'm always pushing this argument, but it's yet another reason we need to change the way 3CDC and city leadership thinks about OTR. It needs to become a true mixed use neighborhood with residential, office, and retail, with a mix of residents of all income levels, more businesses that are oriented towards neighborhood residents, and some office tenants that will keep the neighborhood active in the middle of the day.

Would closing Vine Street, between Central and Liberty, to through-traffic on weekend nights help, hurt, or do nothing for these restaurants/bars?

1 hour ago, ryanlammi said:

Mid-2021 Start date. Mid-2022 completion date.

This is a game changing set of buildings. Happy to see this happening, will have a monumental impact.

1 hour ago, taestell said:

 

As in the former OTR Kroger? It was demolished and replaced with a parking lot until future development plans are announced, which I wouldn't expect to happen any time soon.

I would love to see a new small hotel incorporated into this site. 

13 minutes ago, Dev said:

Would closing Vine Street, between Central and Liberty, to through-traffic on weekend nights help, hurt, or do nothing for these restaurants/bars?

 

I think that's a step too far. 

Is the leasing rent for otr resturaunts and bars subsidized? Or is the rent as premium as it would be in say mason?

 

I'm just curious how many business owner's are getting sweet heart deals on rent so they don't close up shop. 

1 hour ago, ryanlammi said:

The Model Group and Cincinnati Center City Development Corp. are planning to partner on a mixed-use redevelopment project that will bring new life to 20 buildings in Over-the-Rhine.

 

 

Here's a map showing the properties in this project highlighted in yellow. Will definitely be transformative for the area:

Edited December 17, 20204 yr by jwulsin

^would love to have been a fly on the wall in the backroom conversations about the fate of Findlay Playground. 

 

As I have mentioned previously, I think a large hotel between Vine and Republic would bring a variety of people to this area and in light of this new restaurant plan it makes more sense.  Keep the center of the current playground as a park. 

3 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

^would love to have been a fly on the wall in the backroom conversations about the fate of Findlay Playground. 

You imply something has been finalized about the (city-owned) Findlay Playground. I don't think anything has been decided about its fate. 

59 minutes ago, taestell said:

I'm not sure if we can really support a "restaurant row" all the way from 12th to McMicken. From what I've heard, some of the restaurants on Vine were struggling before the pandemic started for multiple reasons. Even though most of the permanent closures will be blamed on COVID, it's also due to increased competition with more high end restaurant and bar options opening up in other NBDs across the city — and in some cases, those restaurants' own suburban locations. I know I'm always pushing this argument, but it's yet another reason we need to change the way 3CDC and city leadership thinks about OTR. It needs to become a true mixed use neighborhood with residential, office, and retail, with a mix of residents of all income levels, more businesses that are oriented towards neighborhood residents, and some office tenants that will keep the neighborhood active in the middle of the day.

I think the biggest problem is over saturation. New openings where definitely outpacing demand. This “COVID reset” will turn out to be a good thing and slow things down a bit.  

In addition to the large Model/3CDC "Findlay Parkside" project, here are the other OTR projects that were just awarded Historic Tax Credits... the 1409 Main description says it's in Pendleton but I'm including it here anyways. I've heard some people say the east side of Main St is Pendleton, but this is on the West side of Main, and in any case it seems like most people think of Sycamore as the dividing line between OTR and Pendleton:

 

123 E. McMicken (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)

Total Project Cost: $480,536

Total Tax Credit: $65,898

Address: 123 E. McMicken, Cincinnati, 45202

Constructed c. 1863, the building at 123 E. McMicken has a unique wrought iron balcony and retains some of its historic storefront. Converted to a single-family residence at one point, the two-and-a-half-story building will be returned to commercial use for a cafe and office space. During rehabilitation, the non-historic storefront infill will be removed, and a new storefront will be constructed compatibly with remaining historic fabric.

 

254 Mohawk (Cincinnati, Hamilton)

Total Project Cost: $855,394

Total Tax Credit: $120,470

Address: 254 Mohawk, Cincinnati, 45214

This project in Cincinnati's Mohawk Place Historic District includes front and rear buildings that have been vacant for more than 20 years. Home to numerous immigrant families and small businesses over time, the buildings will be rehabilitated to be home for eight residents. Some of the units will be small studios with rents affordable to the local workforce.

 

1623 Pleasant (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)

Total Project Cost: $1,033,818

Total Tax Credit: $169,470

Address: 1623 Pleasant, Cincinnati, 45202

Built c. 1880, the four-story Italianate building at 1623 Pleasant was home to generations of Over-the-Rhine residents in its eight apartments, but by 2004, it was vacant and neglected. After the rehabilitation, these eight units will be reactivated for residents in the vibrant neighborhood near Findlay Market. Historic windows and doors will be repaired and retained as will historic stairs, woodwork, and mantles.

 

1409 Main (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)

Total Project Cost: $2,314,493

Total Tax Credit: $200,000

Address: 1409 Main, Cincinnati, 45202

This small building in Cincinnati's Pendleton neighborhood is part of the final phase of a larger rehabilitation project that included 20 buildings. The first floor will house office space while the upper three floors will have 10 residential units. Historic fabric, including stairs, mantles, woodwork, flooring, and plaster, will be retained. Also included in this project is a building on the rear of the property that will be rehabilitated for three residential units.

15 minutes ago, 646empire said:

I think the biggest problem is over saturation. New openings where definitely outpacing demand. This “COVID reset” will turn out to be a good thing and slow things down a bit.  

 

I agree. Also there is a high churn rate for restaurants anyway. With some closures, like A Tavola, second-gen spaces are an opportunity to bring in new blood to the district with lower TI costs.

 

24 minutes ago, jwulsin said:

You imply something has been finalized about the (city-owned) Findlay Playground. I don't think anything has been decided about its fate. 

 

No I meant to say that I'd be really interested to know what ideas have been suggested by the people who can actually make things happen.  What I find a bit amusing about the Findlay Market area is that its rebound has done absolutely nothing to bump property values just uphill in Clifton Heights, despite it being a very easy and fun 10~ minute walk up the hill. 

26 minutes ago, 646empire said:

I think the biggest problem is over saturation. New openings where definitely outpacing demand. This “COVID reset” will turn out to be a good thing and slow things down a bit.  

 

And that's not just true in OTR or Cincinnati or Ohio but nationwide. Prices were too low to keep all these directly competing businesses open with the typical $500K-$1M+ buildout.

Going forward, I imagine that there will be enough demand for restaurants and bars through that whole stretch. There are hundreds of housing units that are going to come online during the next 2-3 years within 3 blocks of Vine, on both sides of Liberty. OTR's population is going to increase substantially, providing a good residential base during the week that will be supplemented by visitors from the rest of the city/metro area.

 

Plus, there have already been a few restaurant-to-retail storefront conversions along Vine this year. I could see more of that occurring as the renovated buildings provide newer spaces for restaurants.

2 minutes ago, OliverHazardPerry said:

Going forward, I imagine that there will be enough demand for restaurants and bars through that whole stretch. There are hundreds of housing units that are going to come online during the next 2-3 years within 3 blocks of Vine, on both sides of Liberty. OTR's population is going to increase substantially, providing a good residential base during the week that will be supplemented by visitors from the rest of the city/metro area.

 

Plus, there have already been a few restaurant-to-retail storefront conversions along Vine this year. I could see more of that occurring as the renovated buildings provide newer spaces for restaurants.

 

Those Census tracts north of Liberty have seen some of the largest population declines in the entire city for this decade, as people have bought up properties and sat on them. As more and more units come online, that's going to change. For the 2020 to 2030 decade they'll probably be among the fastest growing tracts.

I will tell you this, if your a restaurant/bar operator, Right now thru Q1 2021 is a fantastic time to sign a lease (for a summer/fall 2021 opening). OTR and the business district has some highly visible prime time locations available. Along Vine in OTR but also the 2 that has my attention the most are the closed Rockbottom Restaurant location on fountain square and the closed Tiffany & Co in the fountain place building makes me want to drool lol. Just thinking about those locales for new concepts makes me wanna move back to cincy and open something big!

Edited December 17, 20204 yr by 646empire

13 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

No I meant to say that I'd be really interested to know what ideas have been suggested by the people who can actually make things happen.  What I find a bit amusing about the Findlay Market area is that its rebound has done absolutely nothing to bump property values just uphill in Clifton Heights, despite it being a very easy and fun 10~ minute walk up the hill. 

 

I think this development and the possible changes to Findlay Playground will help property values in Clifton Heights. As it stands, I think there's still a "gap" of sorts in the walk from the curve on Clifton Avenue to the area around Findlay Market. As in, it's a place I walked all the time, but not a place I'd suggest my wife walk alone. Especially after dark.  On more than one occasion I've seen/heard something odd afoot in that little patch of woods just west of the Ohio steps. I remember walking down those steps a day or two before this was in the news, for example.

 

But once Vine is developed past 5 points to Clifton Avenue, I think the floodgates will open for Clifton Heights. During Lumenocity, I walked down and remember cars lining the Clifton Avenue Hill to take advantage of the free parking. If that became the norm as development spreads up towards the hill, the walk would feel a lot safer, even at night.  More eyes on the street always helps.

21 minutes ago, Ram23 said:

I think the floodgates will open for Clifton Heights

 

I think the 1960's apartment complex at the bend could be redeveloped to take advantage of the views, as well as a strip of homes all the way down. 

 

Incidentally, the immediate south side of W. Clifton is actually mostly 112 W. McMicken and is owned by Rhinegeist.  No doubt they have already investigated developing the hillside.  It'll require a ton of geotech work to stabilize, not unlike what was required for the apartment building that just went up on Wareham in Mt. Adams. 

 

Also, per CAGIS, there is still a 30-foot ROW for a city staircase between McMicken and W. Clifton, right next to the Jackson Brewery. 

2 hours ago, jwulsin said:

In addition to the large Model/3CDC "Findlay Parkside" project, here are the other OTR projects that were just awarded Historic Tax Credits... the 1409 Main description says it's in Pendleton but I'm including it here anyways. I've heard some people say the east side of Main St is Pendleton, but this is on the West side of Main, and in any case it seems like most people think of Sycamore as the dividing line between OTR and Pendleton:

 

123 E. McMicken (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)

Total Project Cost: $480,536

Total Tax Credit: $65,898

Address: 123 E. McMicken, Cincinnati, 45202

Constructed c. 1863, the building at 123 E. McMicken has a unique wrought iron balcony and retains some of its historic storefront. Converted to a single-family residence at one point, the two-and-a-half-story building will be returned to commercial use for a cafe and office space. During rehabilitation, the non-historic storefront infill will be removed, and a new storefront will be constructed compatibly with remaining historic fabric.

 

254 Mohawk (Cincinnati, Hamilton)

Total Project Cost: $855,394

Total Tax Credit: $120,470

Address: 254 Mohawk, Cincinnati, 45214

This project in Cincinnati's Mohawk Place Historic District includes front and rear buildings that have been vacant for more than 20 years. Home to numerous immigrant families and small businesses over time, the buildings will be rehabilitated to be home for eight residents. Some of the units will be small studios with rents affordable to the local workforce.

 

1623 Pleasant (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)

Total Project Cost: $1,033,818

Total Tax Credit: $169,470

Address: 1623 Pleasant, Cincinnati, 45202

Built c. 1880, the four-story Italianate building at 1623 Pleasant was home to generations of Over-the-Rhine residents in its eight apartments, but by 2004, it was vacant and neglected. After the rehabilitation, these eight units will be reactivated for residents in the vibrant neighborhood near Findlay Market. Historic windows and doors will be repaired and retained as will historic stairs, woodwork, and mantles.

 

1409 Main (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)

Total Project Cost: $2,314,493

Total Tax Credit: $200,000

Address: 1409 Main, Cincinnati, 45202

This small building in Cincinnati's Pendleton neighborhood is part of the final phase of a larger rehabilitation project that included 20 buildings. The first floor will house office space while the upper three floors will have 10 residential units. Historic fabric, including stairs, mantles, woodwork, flooring, and plaster, will be retained. Also included in this project is a building on the rear of the property that will be rehabilitated for three residential units.

Lol, you're right! That ain't Pendleton...

Edited December 17, 20204 yr by Dcs3939

Even the city doesn't consider Main Street the dividing line. There are OTR residential parking pass spots on several of the side streets east of Main.

Sycamore is the dividing line. the odd numbers (west side of the street) are OTR. the even numbers are in Pendleton. I'm in both.

Edited December 18, 20204 yr by 1400 Sycamore

Interesting parking development north of Liberty...

 

https://www.wvxu.org/post/parking-restrictions-aim-curb-violence-happening-blocks-findlay-market#stream/0

The January 25 Historic Conservation Board will review several proposals submitted by New Republic Architecture, for properties all owned by Model Group. I know some are in Pendleton, but I'm just including them all here since they're being submitted all at the same to HCB.

 

30 E 15TH ST

The applicant is requesting a density variance to allow a total of four (4) residential units in an existing structure in the Over-the-Rhine Historic District.

 

1409 MAIN ST

The applicant requests a Certificate of Appropriateness to rehabilitate a mixed-use structure in the Over-The-Rhine Historic District. Additionally, the applicant requests zoning relief related to density.

 

418 E 12TH ST

The applicant requests a Certificate of Appropriateness to rehabilitate a mixed-use structure in the Over-The-Rhine Historic District. Additionally, the applicant requests zoning relief related to density.

 

422 E 12TH ST

The applicant requests a Certificate of Appropriateness to rehabilitate a mixed-use structure in the Over-The-Rhine Historic District. Additionally, the applicant requests zoning relief related to density.

 

555 E 13TH ST

The applicant requests a Certificate of Appropriateness to rehabilitate an existing structure in the Over-The-Rhine Historic District. Additionally, the applicant requests zoning relief related to density.

 

Model owns 420 E 12th which is sandwiched between two properties (418 and 422) which are getting renovated, but 420 isn't on the agenda for the Jan 25 HCB meeting. I'm not sure if Model is actually not skipping over 420 (which would be odd), or if 420 will be included in the application of one of the adjacent properties. Here's a map showing the properties circled in red. I went ahead and just circled 418-422 since I'm hoping Model is going to renovate all 3 of those buildings.

 

With beer production moving out of Bockfest Hall, will CinBev sell off the building to a developer?  Why wouldn't they?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I only went to that Moerlein location once per year, for Bockfest, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised by this move but I really love Bockfest and hope it continues with a new host somewhere in OTR. It would be really sad to lose what I think is our most unique German festival and what is tied for the most unique parade along with Northside's 4th of July. 

 

I saw Panda Bear and Tune-Yards in that gravel lot behind the shell station. I miss MidPoint (and concerts in general).

 

 

On 12/17/2020 at 2:06 PM, jwulsin said:

In addition to the large Model/3CDC "Findlay Parkside" project, here are the other OTR projects that were just awarded Historic Tax Credits... the 1409 Main description says it's in Pendleton but I'm including it here anyways. I've heard some people say the east side of Main St is Pendleton, but this is on the West side of Main, and in any case it seems like most people think of Sycamore as the dividing line between OTR and Pendleton:

 

123 E. McMicken (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)

Total Project Cost: $480,536

Total Tax Credit: $65,898

Address: 123 E. McMicken, Cincinnati, 45202

Constructed c. 1863, the building at 123 E. McMicken has a unique wrought iron balcony and retains some of its historic storefront. Converted to a single-family residence at one point, the two-and-a-half-story building will be returned to commercial use for a cafe and office space. During rehabilitation, the non-historic storefront infill will be removed, and a new storefront will be constructed compatibly with remaining historic fabric.

 

254 Mohawk (Cincinnati, Hamilton)

Total Project Cost: $855,394

Total Tax Credit: $120,470

Address: 254 Mohawk, Cincinnati, 45214

This project in Cincinnati's Mohawk Place Historic District includes front and rear buildings that have been vacant for more than 20 years. Home to numerous immigrant families and small businesses over time, the buildings will be rehabilitated to be home for eight residents. Some of the units will be small studios with rents affordable to the local workforce.

 

1623 Pleasant (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)

Total Project Cost: $1,033,818

Total Tax Credit: $169,470

Address: 1623 Pleasant, Cincinnati, 45202

Built c. 1880, the four-story Italianate building at 1623 Pleasant was home to generations of Over-the-Rhine residents in its eight apartments, but by 2004, it was vacant and neglected. After the rehabilitation, these eight units will be reactivated for residents in the vibrant neighborhood near Findlay Market. Historic windows and doors will be repaired and retained as will historic stairs, woodwork, and mantles.

 

1409 Main (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)

Total Project Cost: $2,314,493

Total Tax Credit: $200,000

Address: 1409 Main, Cincinnati, 45202

This small building in Cincinnati's Pendleton neighborhood is part of the final phase of a larger rehabilitation project that included 20 buildings. The first floor will house office space while the upper three floors will have 10 residential units. Historic fabric, including stairs, mantles, woodwork, flooring, and plaster, will be retained. Also included in this project is a building on the rear of the property that will be rehabilitated for three residential units.

 

I accidentally omitted one other OTR project that received funding in this latest round of Ohio Historic Tax Credits. Lots of good news for rehabilitating vacant buildings in the northern portion of OTR, especially the 1600-1800 blocks of Vine St. 

 

1648 Vine St. (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)

Total Project Cost: $1,107,355

Total Tax Credit: $152,622

Address: 1648 Vine St., Cincinnati, 45202

The building at 1648 Vine St. in Cincinnati's Over-the-Rhine neighborhood tells the story of the area's changes over generations. Built c. 1845, the building was altered numerous times but has been vacant for decades and suffered serious structural damage. The first-floor commercial space will be restored along with four apartments on the upper floors. Remaining historic fabric, such as plaster walls and wood trim, will be repaired and retained.

The lot just south of the Peete St. steps on Vine/Clifton was cleared today. I ran around there today and saw it was being finished up. Sorry I didn't get photos!

14 hours ago, Dcs3939 said:

The lot just south of the Peete St. steps on Vine/Clifton was cleared today. I ran around there today and saw it was being finished up. Sorry I didn't get photos!

 

Yeah, I've noticed it's been cleared up. Somewhat related, the short segment of cobblestone (very unusual to see actual cobblestone, instead of the more typical Belgian block or brick) Peete Alley that connects down to Vine St is planned to be restored by Cincy Spring in Our Steps, sometime next year.

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CIzj1UcB-ha/

On 12/17/2020 at 1:47 PM, jwulsin said:

 

Here's a map showing the properties in this project highlighted in yellow. Will definitely be transformative for the area:

Do they get the same treatment as Alabama Fishbar? Would be equitable for existing businesses to benefit from the restoration of their block.

 

 

 

This is going to be an icon of the project.

 

 

Two businesses here. Do they get the same deal Alabama Fishbar gets?

 

This building has always struck me as delightfully odd. Anyone know the history? Was this a theater or a church?

Is this coinciding with a redesign of the 5 points intersection? I kind of remember hearing something about that but can’t remember any details.

UrbanCincy published an article about an urban planner's proposal to reconfigure the intersection (and surrounding streets), but I have no idea if the city is taking a look at this right now.

 

 

2 hours ago, Chas Wiederhold said:

Do they get the same deal Alabama Fishbar gets?

What deal did Alabama Fish bar get? Have they even started on the building that houses Alabama’s?

On 12/23/2020 at 5:15 PM, 646empire said:

What deal did Alabama Fish bar get? Have they even started on the building that houses Alabama’s?

3CDC is well underway with construction on the building. You can see some photos in 3CDC's Wilkommen construction album on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/53177138@N04/albums/72157715580587022/with/50700263366/

 

In a Business Courier article from May (quoted below), it said that Alabama Fish Bar would remain at that location or on the same block. I haven't heard anything about them moving, so I assume they decided to stay in their current location. Not sure if @Chas Wiederhold has more/different info on what deal Alabama Fish Bar struck with 3CDC and Model Group.

 

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Alabama Fish Bar, located at 1601 Race St., will remain in operation, either at its current location or another nearby.
“It’ll be their choice, but they’ll be right on that block,” Maly said.

From https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/05/28/3cdc-model-group-launch-otr-redevelopment.html

On 12/23/2020 at 2:25 PM, Chas Wiederhold said:

 

This building has always struck me as delightfully odd. Anyone know the history? Was this a theater or a church?

The site was originally a wagon maker/livery, then a funeral home. I did some prelim work for the previous owner and dug into the history a bit. The embalming table was still there on the second floor, it was built in like a permanent table.

 

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Originally the Vine Street Livery Stable owned by George Meyer.  He was also an undertaker, which was pretty common for livery owners.  Eventually converted horse and carriage livery to automobiles for hire.

Company handed down to Charles Meyer in early 1900's.  Constructed current building in 1917.  The front half was built as a funeral home with a chapel and the rear a garage.  The company also hired out carriages, autos, and ambulances.  Purchased in 1950 by Radel Funeral Home (http://radelfuneral.com/about/history) and used by them until 1956.

 

The property goes through to McMicken, and the rear part of the building on McMicken is a two level garage (it is concrete framed and one level is below grade with a ramp).

3 hours ago, mcmicken said:

The site was originally a wagon maker/livery, then a funeral home. I did some prelim work for the previous owner and dug into the history a bit. The embalming table was still there on the second floor, it was built in like a permanent table.

 

 

The property goes through to McMicken, and the rear part of the building on McMicken is a two level garage (it is concrete framed and one level is below grade with a ramp).

 

Sounds like the perfect set up for a ghost tale

Does anyone know the HCB decision on the proposed building at 553 13th St. in Pendleton, which was in the December 21 HCB packet?

 

This was an interesting building for new OTR infill - 6 stories and 10 units - with many novel features. I thought it struck a balance, but of course was subject to the same "it's too high" and "it's too dense" complaints from the usual OTR/Pendleton cohort. 

2 hours ago, jim uber said:

Does anyone know the HCB decision on the proposed building at 553 13th St. in Pendleton, which was in the December 21 HCB packet?

 

This was an interesting building for new OTR infill - 6 stories and 10 units - with many novel features. I thought it struck a balance, but of course was subject to the same "it's too high" and "it's too dense" complaints from the usual OTR/Pendleton cohort. 

I’m glad it’s not close to OTR so we don’t have the OTR council trying to stick their noses in the development like they tried to do with 12th and sycamore. 

I noticed that 1201 Jackson Street is on the latest hcb packet for renovations including a roof top deck. 

 

I'm curious what they will do with this building as I don't believe their are retail tenants on the ground floor level..not sure if the rest of the building is occupied either. 

34 minutes ago, troeros said:

I noticed that 1201 Jackson Street is on the latest hcb packet for renovations including a roof top deck. 

 

I'm curious what they will do with this building as I don't believe their are retail tenants on the ground floor level..not sure if the rest of the building is occupied either. 

Wasn't the architecture firm A359 on the first floor? 

45 minutes ago, troeros said:

I'm curious what they will do with this building as I don't believe their are retail tenants on the ground floor level..not sure if the rest of the building is occupied either.

The HCB packet shows that they plan to keep it with a business tenant on the first floor and residential units above. 

First-of-its kind condo project above Findlay Market complete

 

Developer and architect Mark Bruggeman has finished converting the first air lot above Findlay Market at 111 W. Elder St. to residential use and has listed one of the units for sale.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/01/12/findlay-market-condos-finished.html

 

3 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

111 W. Elder St.

 

Those rear decks are HUUUGE, Tiny Elvis. 

 

 

I am a little confused about 111 Elder. Is that $750,000 for the one floor of that building?