February 13, 20196 yr You're probably right. That would make a lot of sense given Cincinnati's niches.
February 19, 20196 yr On 11/27/2018 at 9:15 PM, Pdrome513 said: SIAP: Permit application for Liberty and Elm: https://cagis.hamilton-co.org/opal/apd.aspx?QSPerm=2018P10246 Hopefully this can get started soon. Still waiting on quite a few approvals...
February 19, 20196 yr 26 minutes ago, taestell said: Still waiting on quite a few approvals... It's so weird because the developers changed hands and fortus group took the lead they sounded very motivated to get this project started in a few months during late summer of 2018. Now development for this project is crawling at a snail's pace...I'm trying to understand why? Is it because the demand for OTR housing has lessened? Does the liberty road diet play any factor? Are they having trouble financing the project?
February 19, 20196 yr Co-living developer opens OTR apartments A Cincinnati group that brought the co-living concept to the Queen City is opening apartments in two buildings it rehabbed in Over-the-Rhine. Kunst is now leasing at its Best & Lothes project at 205 W. McMicken Ave. in Over-the-Rhine. The project is named for the mineral water business that ran out of the buildings in the late 1800s. Kunst is a group that renovates historic buildings to create apartments and living quarters that are a bit more communal. Its first project, at 2411 Gilbert Ave. in Walnut Hills, is a co-living space with private bedrooms, four bathrooms, two kitchens and a lot of common space. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/02/19/co-living-developer-opens-otr-apartments.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 19, 20196 yr 17 minutes ago, troeros said: It's so weird because the developers changed hands and fortus group took the lead they sounded very motivated to get this project started in a few months during late summer of 2018. Now development for this project is crawling at a snail's pace...I'm trying to understand why? Is it because the demand for OTR housing has lessened? Does the liberty road diet play any factor? Are they having trouble financing the project? I don't think the delay is unique to this development. For every development that is announced, expect it to take 2-3x as long as the developers say it will take.
February 20, 20196 yr They are ticketing today for the OTR parking permit. At least 50% of the cars parked on Republic Street got a $50 ticket in the last hour. Edited February 20, 20196 yr by Jimmy Skinner
February 20, 20196 yr I've noticed that many spots in permit parking zones are empty during the day. I'm surprised at how many people who live in OTR seemingly drive to a 9 to 5 elsewhere in town. In hindsight, most people I know do that so I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, but the sight of empty streets around lunchtime is interesting nonetheless. I personally never found it all that hard to park in OTR - neither when I lived there, nor when visiting over the last few years. I've since moved up to CUF, where it's far more difficult to find street parking, but still nowhere as difficult as it was when I lived in Queens. The difficulty of street parking in urban areas is all relative. I think a lot of the complaints that led to the permit system came from folks who haven't ever had to treat on-street parking as a communal resource. If your lifestyle is dependent upon the daily requirement to have a nearly-free parking spot within 2 minutes of your front door, it probably isn't suitable for an urban environment.
February 21, 20196 yr 23 minutes ago, Ram23 said: I've noticed that many spots in permit parking zones are empty during the day. I'm surprised at how many people who live in OTR seemingly drive to a 9 to 5 elsewhere in town. In hindsight, most people I know do that so I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, but the sight of empty streets around lunchtime is interesting nonetheless. I personally never found it all that hard to park in OTR - neither when I lived there, nor when visiting over the last few years. I've since moved up to CUF, where it's far more difficult to find street parking, but still nowhere as difficult as it was when I lived in Queens. The difficulty of street parking in urban areas is all relative. I think a lot of the complaints that led to the permit system came from folks who haven't ever had to treat on-street parking as a communal resource. If your lifestyle is dependent upon the daily requirement to have a nearly-free parking spot within 2 minutes of your front door, it probably isn't suitable for an urban environment. One option would be to have 24/7 meters on certain streets, but parking on those streets is free if you have a residential pass
February 21, 20196 yr It seems like more cars are now parking at night on the W. Clifton hill between Vine St. and the apartment complex at the W. Clifton curve. I don't know if those are more people jamming into Clifton Heights or people from OTR parking their cars on the permit-free hill. I'd expect that OTR people are parking on Mulberry also, although E. Clifton is finally cleaning up so we might see some more adventurous parkers go there. The parking situation in CUF relaxes when UC is out of session. But it is getting worse, bit-by-bit. Several dozen houses were vacant during the recession but now students are packed back into family rooms-turned-bedrooms and there are even people sleeping in closets and hallways. Some of these people have cars, so a single 4-bedroom house might now generate 7 or more cars if you've got a dude in the hallway and few couples shacking up in a former family room turned bedroom. The residential parking permits when I lived in Cambridge, MA almost 20 years ago were hardcore. There was only one parking permit per unit, no matter the number of bedrooms. Each unit also got one visitor pass, but the visitor pass cars had to move every single day or they were ticketed. In addition, there was street cleaning every week, which took out 50-100 spots per zone one morning each week. If your car was there at 7am, they towed. Period. The street cleaning machine showed up with like 8 tow trucks and they got to work at the crack of dawn. It made car ownership such a hassle that I got rid of mine after 2-3 months and a handful of $75 tickets.
February 21, 20196 yr The permit zone only goes up to Liberty. I don't think permit evaders would go all the way up to West Clifton.
February 21, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, thomasbw said: One option would be to have 24/7 meters on certain streets, but parking on those streets is free if you have a residential pass Rather than putting meters back in, just allow paid parkers to park there during daytime hours (8 am to 8 pm, let's say) as long as they pay via the parking app. Permit holders would be able to park there for "free" of course because they already paid for the permit. And overnight the spaces would be reserved for permit holders only. That is essentially what Columbus just implemented for streets around the Short North.
February 21, 20196 yr Not to get too off topic, but at the last CUF council meeting there was a discussion of the need for residential parking permits, especially with The District coming online soon.
February 21, 20196 yr 51 minutes ago, oudd said: Not to get too off topic, but at the last CUF council meeting there was a discussion of the need for residential parking permits, especially with The District coming online soon. Didn't the CUF council used to meet at Deaconess? Where are their meetings now?
February 21, 20196 yr 14 hours ago, jmecklenborg said: The residential parking permits when I lived in Cambridge, MA almost 20 years ago were hardcore. There was only one parking permit per unit, no matter the number of bedrooms. Each unit also got one visitor pass, but the visitor pass cars had to move every single day or they were ticketed. In addition, there was street cleaning every week, which took out 50-100 spots per zone one morning each week. If your car was there at 7am, they towed. Period. The street cleaning machine showed up with like 8 tow trucks and they got to work at the crack of dawn. It made car ownership such a hassle that I got rid of mine after 2-3 months and a handful of $75 tickets. I think the whole area around UC (CUF, Corryville, and parts of Clifton proper) needs to implement a parking permit system that provides a mixture of residential permits and hourly metered parking, with some streets considered "flex" which can accommodate both residential permits and hourly parking. The funds raised could be used to better maintain/clean the streets. It's absurd that the east side of Jefferson has free, un-metered, un-permitted parking.
February 25, 20196 yr I believe this is a 3cdc owned building, but the anchor bar otr has shut down after 7 years of operation.
February 25, 20196 yr Honestly the anchor was one of if not the worst restaurants in OTR. Their location was great but the food wasn't very good. I'd like to see an actual good seafood place replace them. I don't think 3CDC or whoever owns the building to have a tough time finding a tenant to take this high profile location.
February 26, 20196 yr I only ever went to Anchor for their $1 oyster specials as not much else on their menu was really worth the price. A few blocks south, one can find better (albeit less trendy) seafood at the decades old Washington Platform. I always find it interesting to see what restaurants stand the test of time and which go out of business within 5-10 years. It sometimes seems like the more a place is hyped by foodies, the quicker it dies. Meanwhile a place like Alabama Fish, with a menu consisting of just three dishes that do not change, is constantly booming.
February 27, 20196 yr On 11/20/2018 at 11:04 AM, taestell said: More progress on the Woodward Theater marquee. Not sure if I've mentioned it on UrbanOhio, but the owners also want to install a new sign that's a replica of the original Woodward sign (see attached historic photo). The historic sign above the marquee is being reinstalled now. The sign and marquee will be illuminated starting Friday and they're hosting "The Big Turn On Festival" after the Bockfest parade to celebrate.
March 5, 20196 yr Construction equipment has shown up at Freeport Row (Liberty & Elm) and dirt is being moved around...
March 5, 20196 yr 23 minutes ago, taestell said: Construction equipment has shown up at Freeport Row (Liberty & Elm) and dirt is being moved around... So will the developer of Freeport row own the additional land parcel created by the liberty St diet?
March 5, 20196 yr Freeport Row is the NW side of Liberty & Elm, which is not getting extra developable land. That lot on the SE corner of Liberty & Elm looks even more attractive if the diet does indeed go through.
March 6, 20196 yr It'll be nice to have arguably the biggest eyesore on Liberty filled in. Maybe if development along Liberty increases swiftly the city will get a move on the Liberty road diet.
March 6, 20196 yr Are these plans for grammers site still active by same group above: http://www.gossmangroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/GGR_ProjSheet-GrammersGateway_V1.pdf
March 6, 20196 yr That document is from 2014 so I don't think that plan is still being actively pursued. I still expect 3CDC to try to buy the land west of Walnut from the Wades so that they can develop the entire OTR Kroger block.
March 8, 20196 yr On 3/5/2019 at 3:41 PM, taestell said: Construction equipment has shown up at Freeport Row (Liberty & Elm) and dirt is being moved around... Yes I was surprised to see this finally happening.
March 9, 20196 yr I'm really excited for this project and what it means for north of liberty. You rarely see people actively walking between north of liberty and south of liberty. Typically you see clusters that stick around Vine, race, main, Pendelton etc. Hopefully this can be a new node that can help bridge that south and north disconnect.
March 10, 20196 yr Does anyone know what the final plan that was approved for this site is? I remember there were a few iterations floated out there, and didn’t realize one had finally been approved. I seem to remember the structured parking component being dropped, but does anyone remember the unit count? It will be great to get some street presence on this significant corner, and renovating the two historic buildings that front Liberty will be great, too.
March 12, 20196 yr On 1/15/2019 at 8:03 PM, troeros said: Maybe not at this point in time, but if this divorce will take another 15 years it will FWIW, someone told me that the divorce was finalized about two weeks ago. Not that this means the project is going to break ground in the next couple of months or anything.
March 12, 20196 yr 12 hours ago, taestell said: FWIW, someone told me that the divorce was finalized about two weeks ago. Not that this means the project is going to break ground in the next couple of months or anything. The divorce decree was filed 3/8/19
March 12, 20196 yr The City has put out an RFP for redevelopment of the parking lot at 1712 Logan St: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ud7h9ovg1jwap61/Logan RFP RFP689CEDLOGAN.pdf?dl=0 I had thought this surface lot might be eyed by the County for one of the FCC parking garages... but this RFP implies that the County garage(s) will be going somewhere else, but presumably near enough to Findlay Market that the Market isn't upset about potentially losing this surface lot on Logan St.
March 13, 20196 yr On 3/12/2019 at 9:53 AM, jwulsin said: The City has put out an RFP for redevelopment of the parking lot at 1712 Logan St: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ud7h9ovg1jwap61/Logan RFP RFP689CEDLOGAN.pdf?dl=0 I had thought this surface lot might be eyed by the County for one of the FCC parking garages... but this RFP implies that the County garage(s) will be going somewhere else, but presumably near enough to Findlay Market that the Market isn't upset about potentially losing this surface lot on Logan St. That's a pretty big sized lot. Thought it would have taken a while before any developer prioritized that area.
March 13, 20196 yr A friend of mine got a 4-unit building on that block from the city back in 2010 for...$12,000.
March 15, 20196 yr I was offered a building for free on Linn back in 08. I was 19 and in college and the building was a total gut job if not more so I said no. Kinda wish I could take that back now.
March 15, 20196 yr Photo updates from 3CDC's Flickr... The Columbia: Elm Industries: Meiners & Behlen:
March 20, 20196 yr That house is beautiful, I hope it can be saved. However last time I walked around it, it stunk of pee, and looked worse than it smelled.
March 20, 20196 yr When I was looking for a building to buy about 4 years ago, I researched that building at 650 W McMicken and the owner was unreachable. The Building Dept had condemnation orders on it and there was a lot of water getting in and trees growing inside. It's worse than it looks from the photo. The owner is currently listed as: US CHINA BUSINESS ASSOCIATION 1076 GLOUCHESTER HABOR SCHAUMBURG IL 60193 Sucks when bad owners get these buildings.
March 20, 20196 yr 3 hours ago, Jimmy Skinner said: When I was looking for a building to buy about 4 years ago, I researched that building at 650 W McMicken and the owner was unreachable. The Building Dept had condemnation orders on it and there was a lot of water getting in and trees growing inside. It's worse than it looks from the photo. The owner is currently listed as: US CHINA BUSINESS ASSOCIATION 1076 GLOUCHESTER HABOR SCHAUMBURG IL 60193 Sucks when bad owners get these buildings. Why aren't the owners penalized in that case for allowing there owned property to become a public nusinance?
March 20, 20196 yr 4 hours ago, troeros said: Why aren't the owners penalized in that case for allowing there owned property to become a public nusinance? http://cagismaps.hamilton-co.org/propertyactivity/cagisreport?APD=B201204771 It has been condemned. But it looks like they have had many violations. Probably just paid them and moved on.
March 20, 20196 yr New 5 story infill project at 1505-1507 Vine St was presented in the latest HCB packet. Interestingly there was no rendering provided in the packet..Anyone know why that may be? https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/buildings/historic-conservation/historic-conservation-board/march-25-2019-staff-report-and-attachments/
March 20, 20196 yr https://otrch.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Beyond-the-Building-Project-Renderings.pdf More renderings of OTR Community Housing Project adjacent to Washington Park.
March 20, 20196 yr 22 minutes ago, troeros said: New 5 story infill project at 1505-1507 Vine St was presented in the latest HCB packet. Interestingly there was no rendering provided in the packet..Anyone know why that may be? https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/buildings/historic-conservation/historic-conservation-board/march-25-2019-staff-report-and-attachments/ These are the RESTOC lots. Deeded to Buddy Gray in 1991. So it looks like Josh Spring is selling out.
March 21, 20196 yr Does anyone have any new information on the purposed projects one being the two one story building across from Washington Park being torn down and turned into an apartment building and the other being in 1518 Race street on the empty lot.
March 21, 20196 yr Also, what's up with this building? Prime location across from Washington Park, great views of Music Hall, the building next door sold a condo for over $1 million, yet this building remains boarded up. What gives?
March 21, 20196 yr ^ I think those lots are proposed to have affordable housing through a partnership with 3CDC and OTRCH. I remember seeing a friend who is/was? involved with OTRCH post about this on Facebook a while back, and I seem to remember there being renderings. I believe they are renovating one or two buildings in addition to the new construction as part of the project.
March 21, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, edale said: Also, what's up with this building? Prime location across from Washington Park, great views of Music Hall, the building next door sold a condo for over $1 million, yet this building remains boarded up. What gives? Yeah I've always wondered why that is as well..
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