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I hope 3CDC can acquire that property quickly.  Would hate to see this surface lot stay on valuable property for years.  

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  • He should be fined for blocking the streetcar tracks and causing the downtown loop to be shut down for several days, though.

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    The Smithall building at the Northwest corner of Vine and W. Clifton is looking good with the plywood first floor removed and new windows installed 

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@jmecklenborg I was walking from Liberty to Kroger on Vine following a couple and their child. Dad was wearing a Titan's hat. Kid said something and Mom says, "We're not in Nashville, Cincinnati is a big city." I have no idea what they were referring to, but I found it very amusing considering how Nashville proper is double the size of Cincinnati, and MSA-wise, Cincinnati is only 200,000 larger.

1 hour ago, Chas Wiederhold said:

@jmecklenborg I was walking from Liberty to Kroger on Vine following a couple and their child. Dad was wearing a Titan's hat. Kid said something and Mom says, "We're not in Nashville, Cincinnati is a big city." I have no idea what they were referring to, but I found it very amusing considering how Nashville proper is double the size of Cincinnati, and MSA-wise, Cincinnati is only 200,000 larger.

I would say a lot of people do not know the populations of a lot of cities especially the populations of their metros. Cincinnati does have a larger city vibe especially downtown and OTR. Cincy is also over double the density of Nashville. 

These dorky bar themes are what happens when a generation doesn't have rock & roll. 

8 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

These dorky bar themes are what happens when a generation doesn't have rock & roll. 

 

My wife is pregnant so she doesn't/can't do bars at the moment because she gets bored if it's just me sitting on a stool drinking. 

 

She loves Tokyo Kitty though because of the private karaoke rooms and the fun atmosphere. 

 

I'm a huge believer of dual purpose bars that offer more than just drinking and playing pool/darts. 

1 hour ago, jmecklenborg said:

These dorky bar themes are what happens when a generation doesn't have rock & roll. 

 

And they are super pee-shy. No troughs for them!

1 hour ago, jmecklenborg said:

These dorky bar themes are what happens when a generation doesn't have rock & roll. 

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1 hour ago, jmecklenborg said:

These dorky bar themes are what happens when a generation doesn't have rock & roll. 

 

If bars with patios and mariachi bands are dorky, sign me up as a certified dork! "La Ofrenda will also have a patio, and Trevino hopes to bring traveling mariachi bands to serenade patrons in the warmer months."

Headline is funny. This project was in the works before the FCC stadium was a twinkle in Lindner’s eye.  I wonder if we’ll see a shift in narrative from “streetcar is causing development” to “FCC stadium is causing development” and if that narrative will be encouraged and pushed hard by certain politicians who want to further abuse and scapegoat the streetcar. 

www.cincinnatiideas.com

Has the work on freeport row actually started?  I feel like I've read that headline multiple times over the last couple years but little to nothing changes with the land.  I really want to see this project happen so crossing my fingers this time is for real.  

Brand design firm moving to new 3CDC office building in OTR

 

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A growing brand design firm is relocating to one of Cincinnati Center City Development Corp.’s three office projects in Over-the-Rhine.

 

Elm Industries, located at 1537 Race St./1542 Pleasant St., is a $7 million project that will transform an industrial building into 13,500 square feet of office space.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/05/02/exclusive-brand-design-firm-moving-to-new-3cdc.html

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20 minutes ago, Cincy513 said:

Has the work on freeport row actually started?  I feel like I've read that headline multiple times over the last couple years but little to nothing changes with the land.  I really want to see this project happen so crossing my fingers this time is for real.  

About a month or so ago they did actually push some dirt around and pulled up (and palleted) the alley paver blocks. Past that I have not seen any actual construction work.

That article also made it seem like they might build a portion of the parking garage along with the first phase of the project. I remember that being a big battle when the project was originally approved. The developer just wanted to build a surface lot now (with the option of turning it into a garage later) but the NIMBYs did not want the apartments to be approved without the garage.

The vacant Diner just sold for $625,000.  It sits on a 90x90 square.  

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43 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

The vacant Diner just sold for $625,000.  It sits on a 90x90 square.  

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Apparently a press release from the new owners will happen relatively soon...From what I understand it is NOT going to be a new Hang Over Easy location. 

 

Whatever it ends up becoming, I do hope it operates late night to cater to the main st bar crowds. 

3 hours ago, ColDayMan said:

Site work starts on $25M development near FC Cincinnati stadium

 

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Site work has started on a long-planned mixed-use development near FC Cincinnati’s more than $250 million MLS stadium.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/05/02/site-work-starts-on-25m-development-near-stadium.html

 

Is it just me, or is this a new rendering? It looks slightly altered compared to the previous renderings shown a year ago..did they change the color palatte or something? I don't know what it is, but it looks more appealing than it did before...

Maybe I'm reading into this too much but if you look here

 

https://wedge1.hcauditor.org/view/re/0750004001800/2018/summary

 

It says the owner, Sycamore Diner LLC, address is;

312 WALNUT ST SUITE 3600 CINCINNATI OH 45202

 

If you google that you will find that Mayerson Organization is located in that address and in that suite. I might be connecting the wrong dots, but did a Jewish Non Profit Organization just purchase the diner?

 

The Mayerson Organization apperantly awards grant funds for jewish related projects.

 

https://www.mayersonfoundation.org/about/

37 minutes ago, ryanlammi said:

I'm surprised the diner sold for $325,000 in 1992.

 

I wonder if that included the Neon's parking lot.  

 

I remember going there for dinner on a Friday night in 1993 or 1994 and it was jammed with a line out the door.  There was a lot of stuff between there and Clay St. at the time and then north to Liberty.  The Emery Theater had regular events and Grammer's was open nightly.  

 

The circa-1985 owner was "Olde Sycamore Square".  One of the buildings across the street still has that signage.  Those might have been antique stores over there but I can't remember.  I just looked up that building and it looks like Gateway Federal Bank foreclosed on Olde Scyamore Square in 1992.  So if whoever owned that building back then is still alive, they have to drive past it to this day with that same signage!  

 

 

^I was wondering the same thing. Perhaps it was bundled with additional properties. Even with the relative popularity of Main Street at the time, I have a hard time believing the diner sold for $325k in 1992 on its own.

15 hours ago, troeros said:

Maybe I'm reading into this too much but if you look here

 

https://wedge1.hcauditor.org/view/re/0750004001800/2018/summary

 

It says the owner, Sycamore Diner LLC, address is;

312 WALNUT ST SUITE 3600 CINCINNATI OH 45202

 

If you google that you will find that Mayerson Organization is located in that address and in that suite. I might be connecting the wrong dots, but did a Jewish Non Profit Organization just purchase the diner?

 

The Mayerson Organization apperantly awards grant funds for jewish related projects.

 

https://www.mayersonfoundation.org/about/

 

The Mayerson's non-profit is located there but I am sure they also run their real estate company out of that office. 

Does anyone have any information regarding the, "Main Street  OTR Gateway" project. 

 

I saw the OTR community council approved a motion regarding this project in their latest docket but I'm curious what exactly this gateway project entails?

On 5/2/2019 at 7:28 PM, ryanlammi said:

^I was wondering the same thing. Perhaps it was bundled with additional properties. Even with the relative popularity of Main Street at the time, I have a hard time believing the diner sold for $325k in 1992 on its own.

 

I've never figured out how to see which properties were part of a multi-property sale on the Hamilton County Auditor site.  Plus, there is never a hint that there were multiple properties involved in a sale other than an extraordinary sales figure. 

 

The post reminded me of how everything between Music Hall and Vine St. was a total no-go zone during OTR's 1990s revival.  The Emery and Grammer's were the outposts of civility on Walnut, but there was absolutely nothing on Race or Elm and it's hard to argue that The Warehouse at 1313 Vine was civilized.  There was a brief period where a second club opened on the east side of Vine called Club Venus which is where The Mercer is now.  There were, however, several art galleries on Clay and Main was very lively.  East of Sycamore, chaos reigned.

 

The tables flipped around 2011 when Vine became the center of activity and since the streetcar opened it's undeniable that Race and Elm have surpassed Main in prominence.  Back in 1999 or 2000 nobody would have believed you if you said one day Main would one day rank in fourth or fifth place as prestigious and active OTR streets. 

 

 

6 hours ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

I've never figured out how to see which properties were part of a multi-property sale on the Hamilton County Auditor site.  Plus, there is never a hint that there were multiple properties involved in a sale other than an extraordinary sales figure. 

 

The only thing I've noticed is that the properties that are sold together all have the same sale date and sale price. So if you sell three vacant parcels for $50,000, each parcel will show a sale on the same date of $50,000. But they didn't sell for $50,000 each. But there's no way I can tell that you can see which properties were bundled without clicking on each one individually to analyze this date on CAGIS or by searching the parcels on the auditor's site.

11 hours ago, troeros said:

Does anyone have any information regarding the, "Main Street  OTR Gateway" project. 

 

I saw the OTR community council approved a motion regarding this project in their latest docket but I'm curious what exactly this gateway project entails?

 

I hadn't heard anything about it in several years so I didn't know it was still in the works. Last I heard, they were talking about some sort of "Welcome to the Main Street Historic District" type of signage at either Central Parkway & Main or 12th & Main.

39 minutes ago, taestell said:

 

I hadn't heard anything about it in several years so I didn't know it was still in the works. Last I heard, they were talking about some sort of "Welcome to the Main Street Historic District" type of signage at either Central Parkway & Main or 12th & Main.

Hopefully, it is not the terrible gateway arch they proposed a few years ago. 

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48 minutes ago, taestell said:

 

I hadn't heard anything about it in several years so I didn't know it was still in the works. Last I heard, they were talking about some sort of "Welcome to the Main Street Historic District" type of signage at either Central Parkway & Main or 12th & Main.

 

It sounds like it's more than just a simple gateway arch to me... in the cc letter drafted it notes, "Improvements to the customer experience, visible improvements to the main St corridor, and foundation for success for main Street businesses."

 

I'm not sure how they would go about implementing this though?

8 minutes ago, JYP said:

Hopefully, it is not the terrible gateway arch they proposed a few years ago. 

 

That's what I've heard is proposed. I think a gateway arch is dumb. It works where there has historically been one (like the Short North in Columbus). 

11 minutes ago, ryanlammi said:

 

That's what I've heard is proposed. I think a gateway arch is dumb. It works where there has historically been one (like the Short North in Columbus). 

 

Based off the letter it seems more in depth than an arch. I'm not sure how you improve the customer experience and business success by adding an arch...

 

You can find the letter draft in the reports and minutes on the otr community council website for April. 

 

I'm curious if anyone on here is on/attended the otr community council meeting and could chime in more. 

New details on the next phase of Model Group’s Findlay Market project

 

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More than 20 percent of the apartments in the third phase of Model Group’s major Findlay Market mixed-use development will have be affordable housing, the developer told Cincinnati City Council.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/05/07/new-details-on-the-next-phase-of-model-group-s.html

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To ease OTR parking crunch, city offers night passes at this garage

 

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In order to ease the nighttime parking pinch and open up on-street spaces, the city of Cincinnati is now offering evening parking passes in the Town Center Garage across from Music Hall.

 

The passes cost $30 per month. The city’s parking facilities division said the garage has the capacity to offer the passes, which are good 4 p.m.-6 a.m. daily.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/05/07/to-ease-otr-parking-crunch-city-offers-night.html

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2 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

To ease OTR parking crunch, city offers night passes at this garage

 

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In order to ease the nighttime parking pinch and open up on-street spaces, the city of Cincinnati is now offering evening parking passes in the Town Center Garage across from Music Hall.

 

The passes cost $30 per month. The city’s parking facilities division said the garage has the capacity to offer the passes, which are good 4 p.m.-6 a.m. daily.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/05/07/to-ease-otr-parking-crunch-city-offers-night.html

 

You might as well pay $40 and get a pass that's good around the clock. 

^Except I've tried and they are sold out of the $40 passes, and have a waiting list.  

 

Who's gonna commit to leaving before 6am every day?!!?

It would be a great option for businesses who want to give their employees a place to park who work evenings/nights. Provide $30 to employees who work nights and they have a guaranteed parking space. Anything along Vine Street or west would be easily within walking distance of this garage.

22 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

New details on the next phase of Model Group’s Findlay Market project

 

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More than 20 percent of the apartments in the third phase of Model Group’s major Findlay Market mixed-use development will have be affordable housing, the developer told Cincinnati City Council.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/05/07/new-details-on-the-next-phase-of-model-group-s.html

 

I'm not sure this bit was old news, or new news but these are the 9 rehabbed buildings model group will be working on

 

1810 Elm

1830 Elm St.,

1821 Race St 

1936 Race St

1941 Race St.

124 Findlay

127 Findlay St.

41 W. McMicken Ave

22 W. Elder

 

If you look on google maps, some of these buildings are huge. It really does seem like Model Group is really trying to take control of all the development around the Findley Market. 

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1 minute ago, ryanlammi said:

It would be a great option for businesses who want to give their employees a place to park who work evenings/nights. Provide $30 to employees who work nights and they have a guaranteed parking space. Anything along Vine Street or west would be easily within walking distance of this garage.

That would be perfect for closing shift bartenders or service industry workers

35 minutes ago, Jimmy Skinner said:

^Except I've tried and they are sold out of the $40 passes, and have a waiting list.  

 

Who's gonna commit to leaving before 6am every day?!!?

 

Really? That's crazy. Didn't realize they were in such high demand.

1 hour ago, troeros said:

1936 Race St

 

 

Good.  That one is an eye sore at an increasingly prominent street corner.  

 

7 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

Good.  That one is an eye sore at an increasingly prominent street corner.  

 

 

Its also a really large building as well. It will be great to have more residents living north of liberty in the coming years and should hopefully ease the crime a bit in NoL

47 minutes ago, troeros said:

 

Its also a really large building as well. It will be great to have more residents living north of liberty in the coming years and should hopefully ease the crime a bit in NoL

 

 

Property prices in Mt. Auburn, Clifton Heights, and the West End have nearly doubled or more than doubled since 2016.  I expect that those neighborhoods will look like OTR does now by 2030, and by that same date there will be zero vacant buildings or vacant lots (aside from some surface parking) left in Over-the-Rhine.  

 

 

 

 

If I sold my house, which I own outright, the proceeds from it would pay for only FOUR YEARS of rent at the apartment I rented for half as much in 2006-2007 in Corryville. Same number of bedrooms

16 hours ago, thomasbw said:

That would be perfect for closing shift bartenders or service industry workers

That's exactly where this is coming from. A working group with the OTR Chamber is talking to a number of garages/lots about similar programs to ease the worker parking issue, especially with the new residential permit parking program now in place.

6 hours ago, mcmicken said:

That's exactly where this is coming from. A working group with the OTR Chamber is talking to a number of garages/lots about similar programs to ease the worker parking issue, especially with the new residential permit parking program now in place.

 

 

Night workers can often ride the bus to but not back from bar & restaurant jobs.  A lot of people ride the bus or walk to work but then get a ride home with a coworker who has a car.  

 

When I lived in Boston upwards of 20 years ago, I recall many places shutting down at 1am even though alcohol could be served until 2am because so many employees were reliant on public transit to get home.  

 

https://www.gofundme.com/schwartz039s-point-jazz-club

 

If anyone wants to donate please do. SHWARTZ Jazz Club seems to be struggling. I'm glad they raised the 1k they were asking for but it sounds like they need a little more continued support.

 

I feel bad for them honestly. They do alot of positive work but they are located in a part of otr that very few people feel comfortable in at night. Hope they stay open until that part of otr gets gentrified.

There's been some work happening at the Lightborne building on 14th Street for the past few weeks. The exterior concrete which had been unpainted is now getting painted. I have no idea if any other work is being done besides the painting.

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37 minutes ago, taestell said:

There's been some work happening at the Lightborne building on 14th Street for the past few weeks. The exterior concrete which had been unpainted is now getting painted. I have no idea if any other work is being done besides the painting.

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This always looks so cool from my place in Mount Adams, looks like a little lit up jewel box at night. 

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