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New Findlay Market parking garage nears completion: PHOTOS

By Abby Miller  –  Reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier

May 18, 2023

 

A project that will bring hundreds of new parking spots and retail space to Over-the-Rhine hit a significant milestone this week.

 

Hamilton County Commissioners and project partners celebrated the topping out of the new Findlay Market parking garage on May 15, which is on track to be completed before the end of 2023. Once completed, the estimated $24.5 million garage will bring 500 parking spots and ground-floor retail space to Over-the-Rhine, aiming to meet the high demand for Findlay Market and FC Cincinnati parking.

 

“The Findlay Market garage achieves so many goals for our community,” Commissioner Denise Driehaus said in a news release.

 

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  • 3 weeks later...

Here is a short clip just to show the progress on Fotofocus as of today.

 

 

3CDC launches Pop-Up Program to fill vacant Main Street storefronts

 

The Cincinnati Center City Development Corp. has launched a new program to fill vacant storefronts in Over-the-Rhine.

 

3CDC on June 5 announced the launch of the Main Street Pop-Up Program, which aims to get businesses into vacant storefronts on Main Street between Central Parkway and Liberty Street in short-term leases.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2023/06/06/3cdc-pop-up-program-main-street-storefronts.html

 

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"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

Does anyone know what’s going on with the parking lot next to the Salvation Army on Main & Central? I assumed they were just tearing up the asphalt to resurface, but walking by I noticed there was Urban Sites signage on the fencing around the land. Do they own this lot, and if so is that something new?

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12 hours ago, GZC13 said:

Does anyone know what’s going on with the parking lot next to the Salvation Army on Main & Central? I assumed they were just tearing up the asphalt to resurface, but walking by I noticed there was Urban Sites signage on the fencing around the land. Do they own this lot, and if so is that something new?

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I’m going to assume they are just resurfacing. The booth is still up and there appears to be a base for a light post. 

13 hours ago, GZC13 said:

I assumed they were just tearing up the asphalt to resurface, but walking by I noticed there was Urban Sites signage on the fencing around the land. Do they own this lot, and if so is that something new?

Ownership hasn't changed since 2003, so I'm assuming they just contracted with Urban Sites Construction for the work.

https://wedge.hcauditor.org/view/re/0750004019100/2022/summary

New pavement is getting installed today on that surface lot: 

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Are they going to test the new surface by dropping a bowling ball?

a parking lot there feels criminal

It's not extending over the former David Furniture building lot, is that because of ownership or because of the current rule about no new surface lots downtown? 

7 minutes ago, ucgrady said:

It's not extending over the former David Furniture building lot, is that because of ownership or because of the current rule about no new surface lots downtown? 

I think both. 

I hope this becomes a priority lot to get developed soon. 

I have no love for parking lots, but 3CDC's removable permeable pavers and landscaping at Walnut and Central Parkway and Liberty and Pleasant should be the standard for new parking lots in the city.

1 hour ago, Chas Wiederhold said:

I have no love for parking lots, but 3CDC's removable permeable pavers and landscaping at Walnut and Central Parkway and Liberty and Pleasant should be the standard for new parking lots in the city.

As a cheaper alternative, I also really like the one that ProudHound's parking lot uses.  It's like a rubber honeycomb system with pea gravel filling it in, making it plenty permeable.

 

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Behind 3CDC's push to fill Main Street storefronts in Over-the-Rhine

 

The Cincinnati Center City Development Corp. is working with other building owners on Main Street in an effort to fill nearly 30 vacant storefronts on the street, with all of them prepared to slash typical lease terms and provide incentives.

 

The initiative, dubbed the Main Street Pop-Up Program, was first announced June 5.

 

The number of vacant storefronts is due, in part, to 3CDC and other developers renovating buildings along the street, along with the typical ebb and flow of businesses closing or relocating. 3CDC is leasing space on behalf of Urban Sites as well as other building owners. Twenty-five spaces are available now, with another four coming online soon.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2023/06/12/3cdc-main-street-storefront-plan.html

 

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"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

Over the past few months, the front facade of 1801-1805 Vine St has been in the process of being completely rebuilt. It's kinda hard to see in the photo, but the masons are now laying the exterior brick against the new CMU wall, starting on the ground floor. It's clearly a massive amount of work going into this building. 

 

Photo from 13 June 2023:

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Photo from 12 April 2023:

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Can't wait to see these windows restored as part of Sugarcreek's renovation of the Sohn-Clyffside brewery.

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(I won't link to it... but you can use Google Streetview to see the horrendous condition of the window openings in recent years) 

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2 hours ago, jwulsin said:

Can't wait to see these windows restored as part of Sugarcreek's renovation of the Sohn-Clyffside brewery.

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(I won't link to it... but you can use Google Streetview to see the horrendous condition of the window openings in recent years) 

If you check out the HCB packet they are rebuilding the demolished building to the west and the cupola which was lost in the 50's. 

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1 hour ago, Lazarus said:

 

Looks like the corner building came down between 2009 and 2011. If you look at old streetview, it was there in 2009 and demolished sometime before 2011:

 

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3 minutes ago, jwulsin said:

 

Looks like the corner building came down between 2009 and 2011. If you look at old streetview, it was there in 2009 and demolished sometime before 2011:

 

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Look at this loading dock...maybe there was a level curb cut at one point?  Stuff like this illustrates why so many companies moved out of the city for generic warehouses in the suburbs.  

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New website is up for the redesign of Central Parkway: https://www.centralparkwaycincinnati.org/

 

An email just went out encouraging completion of the survey, which will be open until July 12: https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/7375944/Central-Parkway-Survey

 

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The City of Cincinnati Department of Transportation and Engineering (DOTE) has launched a new project to transform Central Parkway into a safe and vibrant place. We're asking you, the residents, businesses and those who frequent the north-south stretch of Central Parkway between Plum and Liberty streets, to share your feedback on the current state of the corridor, as well as your ideas for how to best improve it. 

 

“We welcome the public’s input on this exciting project,” said Jeff Stine, Project Manager, DOTE. "The city seeks to transform Central Parkway into a safe and vibrant place by incorporating 'Complete Street' design principles into it. Public input is a critical component for the successful development of the project and will do much towards making Central Parkway better for everyone.” 

 

Seven separate planning studies of the West End and OTR conducted between 2001 and 2019 all highlighted the negative impact of an inadequate pedestrian environment in this area. DOTE seeks to use this project to overcome that challenge.

 

PROVIDING INPUT

You are invited to visit www.centralparkwaycincinnati.org to learn more about the project, take a five-minute survey on the current state of the corridor and share your thoughts on what should be improved. DOTE welcomes all public input so you are asked to share this link with others in the community who may also wish to participate.

 

The survey will be open through July 12, 2023. Future opportunities for public input are forthcoming and will include in-person and virtual public open houses to review improvement options. DOTE anticipates presenting potential improvement options to the public for feedback this fall.

 

3 hours ago, Lazarus said:

 

Look at this loading dock...maybe there was a level curb cut at one point?  Stuff like this illustrates why so many companies moved out of the city for generic warehouses in the suburbs.  

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Here is what was there originally, the sidewalk has always been sloped. The last brewery in the building was Red Top and they closed in 1957. The building was used for a variety of less and less intensive uses over the years until there were sketchy loft apartments, last occupied in the late 90's. 

 

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3 hours ago, jwulsin said:

 

Looks like the corner building came down between 2009 and 2011. If you look at old streetview, it was there in 2009 and demolished sometime before 2011:

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1198504,-84.523185,3a,90y,60.95h,98.89t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sXsWFHKfmbbR1l7BAo8Khhg!2e0!5s20090801T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu

Water infiltrated through a leaky roof causing a wall to collapse. Owner didn't have any money to stabilize so city tore it down.

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27 minutes ago, Lazarus said:

Tons of money to put an end to a drug drive-thru:

https://www.fox19.com/2023/06/13/zeigler-park-expansion-opens-over-the-rhine-photos/

 

They could have just put up jersey barriers like they did to McMicken five years ago, or - gasp - just keep arresting people for buying and selling drugs until nobody came there anymore.  

 

The extension of the park does much more than just curb anti-social behavior. It actually promotes positive social interactions, job creation, and improves quality of life.


Great investment. Would love to see more improvements like this made in this area.

On 6/13/2023 at 9:04 AM, jwulsin said:

Over the past few months, the front facade of 1801-1805 Vine St has been in the process of being completely rebuilt. It's kinda hard to see in the photo, but the masons are now laying the exterior brick against the new CMU wall, starting on the ground floor. It's clearly a massive amount of work going into this building. 

 

Photo from 13 June 2023:

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Photo from 12 April 2023:

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Really amazing preservation work here. Can't wait to see this node transform.

4 minutes ago, Miami-Erie said:

 

The extension of the park does much more than just curb anti-social behavior. It actually promotes positive social interactions, job creation, and improves quality of life.


Great investment. Would love to see more improvements like this made in this area.

Yeah, they sold it as a safety initiative… thats what the public writ-large cares about. Just watch the local news, 75% of it is about crimes and deaths.  But this really accomplished the above.

Noting: The neighborhood and most Main Street businesses opposed this street closure. 

1 hour ago, breakground said:

Noting: The neighborhood and most Main Street businesses opposed this street closure. 

 

Wasn't that because they wanted to close/redesign Main Street itself?

Maybe that motivated some...but what we heard loud and clear:

"Closing Woodward will only move the activity, not end it. What's the plan to end it?"
"Where is the concern for the crime that is happening on Green between Republic and Vine? Very bad and disruptive activity, but because it's not a problem for business, there's no action." 
"We're tired of losing our historic street grid. It's an important part of what makes our neighborhood unique and special."

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13 minutes ago, breakground said:

Maybe that motivated some...but what we heard loud and clear:

"Closing Woodward will only move the activity, not end it. What's the plan to end it?"
"Where is the concern for the crime that is happening on Green between Republic and Vine? Very bad and disruptive activity, but because it's not a problem for business, there's no action." 
"We're tired of losing our historic street grid. It's an important part of what makes our neighborhood unique and special."

The first two points are good arguments.  The third makes zero sense. 

3 hours ago, breakground said:

Noting: The neighborhood and most Main Street businesses opposed this street closure. 

 

That was never true and it certainly isn't true today. It's about as true as saying "the neighborhood" opposed the renovation of Washington Park.

2 hours ago, Cincy513 said:

The first two points are good arguments.  The third makes zero sense. 

Yeah, I don't care if cars have access to a continuous street grid in this part of the neighborhood. The grid still exists for pedestrians, and in fact was enhanced for them.

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 I must have missed this so for anyone else that did too, the First Lutheran Church is now open again and the renovation on the spire is completed. It kind of went under the radar after the initial fighting, but I'm glad that the spire was able to be saved and that the original church was able to remain in place at the end of the day.

What are the big next moves for 3CDC in OTR?

 

I know they are working on some smaller random projects as well as the Convention Center area.

 

Is it the Findlay Parkside? I haven't really seen anything on what this project entails in a summarized look? Is there more of a Model Group project?

30 minutes ago, IAGuy39 said:

What are the big next moves for 3CDC in OTR?

 

I know they are working on some smaller random projects as well as the Convention Center area.

 

Is it the Findlay Parkside? I haven't really seen anything on what this project entails in a summarized look? Is there more of a Model Group project?

Both 3CDC and Model group are renovating a decent amount of buildings along Vine Street north of Liberty. 

3CDC has a project called "Findlay Flats" which includes the renovation of 17 buildings in the 1600-1800 blocks of Vine St.

 

Additionally, they also been working on the "Findlay Community Center" project which encompasses the existing rec center, the new center that will be built on the Findlay Playground site, and the renovation of Grant Park. Here's the project website: https://www.3cdc.org/project/findlay-community-and-recreation-center/

 

Combined with Model Group's Findlay Parkside project which will renovate 12 buildings in the 1800 block of Vine St, the stretch of Vine St from Liberty to McMicken will look quite different after these projects are completed.  

 

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Yeah the Northern Liberties is going to be completely transformed in the next few years, between the large Liberty & Elm project, the few smaller projects going up Race, the large county parking garage, the new rec center and all the revitalized properties and all the way to the investment reaching toward Grant park it's really going to be a huge change. Sometimes it doesn't feel like anything is happening because we can't see it, but 3CDC and others are sneakily building hundreds of units across northern OTR right now and the only public evidence is often "hey look that building got new windows" or "they don't have A/C units hanging out of their windows anymore". 

 

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If memory serves correctly, I believe there has been a large groundswell of grassroots efforts to make sure a roller skating rink is part of the plan.

Yeah - the plans shown above are a bit old. The latest has an indoor roller skating rink on the first floor, in the north portion of the building. 

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