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I’ve heard the retail they are working with now are an AT&T store, small convenience  store, a bank , and a big part of the space will be an special event center 

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    View from the rooftop of Building B, which will have the community room overlooking the city. 

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On 6/18/2020 at 10:42 AM, BJBaes said:

Love the wood facade. I don't remember seeing it in any mock-ups. But so help me God - if Bobby or Tony hijack that space... 

 

it’s the actual facade for parts of the retail. Not brand specific. 

The addition of Church+State and The Quarter had dramatically changed Detroit, especially when coming from the east. It's incredible. There is so much potential and opportunity to recreate Detroit all the west.

21 hours ago, Pigmeat said:

I’ve heard the retail they are working with now are an AT&T store, small convenience  store, a bank , and a big part of the space will be an special event center 

An AT&T?! That’s major for two reasons. They are in the middle of closing 250 stores AND that is a major shopping tenant to acquire. That could potentially create a domino effect. 

12 hours ago, MyPhoneDead said:

An AT&T?! That’s major for two reasons. They are in the middle of closing 250 stores AND that is a major shopping tenant to acquire. That could potentially create a domino effect. 


Looks like it'll be authorized reseller. https://www.att.com/stores/ohio/cleveland/194654

On 6/21/2020 at 9:12 AM, mas1092 said:

The addition of Church+State and The Quarter had dramatically changed Detroit, especially when coming from the east. It's incredible. There is so much potential and opportunity to recreate Detroit all the west.

 

It's incredible. A terrific corridor coming together.  And I really wish the city would put in a bike/bus line-jumping lane on Detroit eastbound right before W25th now, before all the risk-averse retail tenants move in.

On 6/20/2020 at 1:44 PM, Pigmeat said:

I’ve heard the retail they are working with now are an AT&T store, small convenience  store, a bank , and a big part of the space will be an special event center 

The AT&T reseller is kind of a bummer but a nice, new convenience store would be great.

 

The closest convenience store nearby for residents like myself (not counting "The Grocery" which is more of a prepared foods spot) is Linda's and it doesn't really give off the warm and cozy vibe considering someone was shot in the leg outside of Linda's about a month ago. If I need beer or wine I basically need to buy ahead at Dave's or make a run to Ohio City Brew Stop on Fulton. 

 

A bank is also meh considering there's a Chase, Key, Ohio Savings, and PNC all within a half mile. 

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What, you don't like Linda's Superette? ?

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

43 minutes ago, KJP said:

What, you don't like Linda's Superette?

 

I still haven't shared this with my wife, but I was walking home from Ohio City Galley in October and saw a man get stabbed in the stomach in what appeared to be a drug deal gone wrong. Linda's Superette is nottttt a net positive for the community. Though I don't think you were suggesting otherwise. 

12 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

 

I still haven't shared this with my wife, but I was walking home from Ohio City Galley in October and saw a man get stabbed in the stomach in what appeared to be a drug deal gone wrong. Linda's Superette is nottttt a net positive for the community. Though I don't think you were suggesting otherwise. 

Are you sure it wasn't an argument over which of Linda's craft beer selections is best?

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17 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

 

I still haven't shared this with my wife, but I was walking home from Ohio City Galley in October and saw a man get stabbed in the stomach in what appeared to be a drug deal gone wrong. Linda's Superette is nottttt a net positive for the community. Though I don't think you were suggesting otherwise. 

 

I added an emoticon for clarity assurance purposes.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Church + State really makes an impact on the skyline coming from the west on the Lakefront Bikeway! I can’t wait to see this same view once it’s finished.

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Great shots @urbanetics_! I’m actually pleasantly surprised just how impactful on the skyline Church & State is. i think it will be incredibly  impactful in terms of the positive energy it infuses in the neighborhood. 

Sometimes...ya just gotta get high and gain a new perspective. ? 

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Gorgeous! Thank you.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Wow.....those are fantastic!!  and wow was that section of Detroit Ave a barren wasteland before all the new construction!!

Those pictures are incredible!

10 minutes ago, stpats44113 said:

Those pictures are incredible!

Thank you!

14 minutes ago, ASPhotoman said:

Thank you!

 

Did you get a drone?   Lots of folks are having great fun with them.  I, unfortunately, live within the White House no-fly zone.  ☹️

Remember: It's the Year of the Snake

Dexter Place and Quarter2 look great in those pics too. So much going on over there.

8 hours ago, Dougal said:

 

Did you get a drone?   Lots of folks are having great fun with them.  I, unfortunately, live within the White House no-fly zone.  ☹️

I've had one for the last few years. I just finally got around to grabbing some shots. ?

Peek-a-boo...

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^ This got me thinking.....seeing this place all lit up at night is going to have a tremendous visual benefit to what has been for so long a very forlorn looking stretch of Detroit. 

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Church was only 50 percent leased a couple of weeks when I last heard from Graham Veysey. Now....

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I don't believe anyone has posted the artwork proposal yet that would wrap around the parking garage floors. Really pulls together the building and is an awesome contemporary method for ornamentation and beautifying a parking garage. The intent is to change out the artwork every 3-5 years.

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That looks amazing! ?

I wonder who the artist is? 

This is like the third HIngetown mural from an American Greetings alum. 

 

Dinara Mirtalipova is a self taught illustrator/designer. Born and raised in Tashkent, Uzbekistan, she eventually landed in snowy Ohio. Dinara studied Computer Science at the Tashkent State University of Economics, however her true passion was always patterns and illustration. Raised in Soviet Uzbek culture, Dinara inhabited Uzbek/Russian folklore that still influences her work. 

 

https://www.mirdinara.com/

6 hours ago, tykaps said:

I don't believe anyone has posted the artwork proposal yet that would wrap around the parking garage floors. Really pulls together the building and is an awesome contemporary method for ornamentation and beautifying a parking garage. The intent is to change out the artwork every 3-5 years.

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I noticed the first story wood facade in these pictures is gray or black. Right now it’s just unfinished wood and I kind of like the look as-is.


Does anyone know if they plan to stain the wood like these mockups?

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A lot of woods silver over time. It won't be as dark or consistent as what's shown in those renderings, but it will likely lose a lot of its color fairly quickly.

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Then there's only one solution.....

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

 

41 minutes ago, freefourur said:

 

The floorplan names are so cringe, but whatever, I guess I'm not in their target demo haha. The gallery pics are very nice though, very *white*...

 

All that said, why isn't there a So-crates? Model??

 

 

Wow - Ohio City rents are skyrocketing. I guess it’s a good thing to hear that units are leasing up quickly, but it’s definitely out of my price range.?

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From Church.

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Those 2 bedroom rents are Los Angeles prices. I should know because my 2 bedroom in LA is in that price range. It’s nuts. 

^ These are downtown MIA rents too!  Apartment rentals must be hot ticket in the area.

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10 hours ago, marty15 said:

From Church.

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Lights are on!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Sweet!  That section of Detroit is hopping!  

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On 6/22/2020 at 12:23 PM, YABO713 said:

 

I still haven't shared this with my wife, but I was walking home from Ohio City Galley in October and saw a man get stabbed in the stomach in what appeared to be a drug deal gone wrong. Linda's Superette is nottttt a net positive for the community.

Please delete if this is too off topic, but I thought it might be useful to know.

Kerry McCormack is proposing to take away Linda's liquor license.

I'd say this would be a development opportunity if it wasn't for those profitable billboards above it. At the very least, it's a net win for the community's safety and an opportunity for a new business to take the space.

13 hours ago, tykaps said:

Please delete if this is too off topic, but I thought it might be useful to know.

Kerry McCormack is proposing to take away Linda's liquor license.

I'd say this would be a development opportunity if it wasn't for those profitable billboards above it. At the very least, it's a net win for the community's safety and an opportunity for a new business to take the space.

Would be a huge proponent of this. Some will see it as a shot at the urban community and one purely motivated by gentrification but that is simply not reality. 
 

Linda’s does not abide by a single ordinance nor does it prioritize safety. There is a steady wave of people loitering inside and outside of the store (I’ve been in there twice and won’t be back). Zero mask adherence, either. There are CONSTANTLY people drinking from open containers right outside the store and I’ve seen people stumbling around there piss drunk like it’s a bar. 
 

My girlfriend and I are both routinely heckled and harassed by store patrons and loiterers every time we pass by (usually trying to get to the bike path). Someone was shot in the leg there back in May. 
 

You can’t say they haven’t had a chance to clean it up...

It would be nice to have a similar shop there, one that abides by the rules a bit better. The property owner just put alot of money into it though in around 2016, which is a good sign - new windows, siding, trim, signs, awning - and the mural is great too. It's magnitudes better than it was recently. I wonder if the shop owner is the property owner, or if its rented space.

1 hour ago, PoshSteve said:

It would be nice to have a similar shop there, one that abides by the rules a bit better. The property owner just put alot of money into it though in around 2016, which is a good sign - new windows, siding, trim, signs, awning - and the mural is great too. It's magnitudes better than it was recently. I wonder if the shop owner is the property owner, or if its rented space.

 

The store appears to own the space. The name of the property owner listed  is associated with DETROIT-WEST 28TH ST., INC. which is associated with the store's address. The Articles of Incorporation state their purpose as "To carry on the business of buying, selling leasing and otherwise dealing in grocery, food products, beer, wine, soft drink beverages, and all kindered (sic) and related products, to be sold at retail or wholesale in conformity with the laws of the State of Ohio, Cuyahoga County and City of Cleveland"...

19 hours ago, PoshSteve said:

It would be nice to have a similar shop there, one that abides by the rules a bit better. The property owner just put alot of money into it though in around 2016, which is a good sign - new windows, siding, trim, signs, awning - and the mural is great too. It's magnitudes better than it was recently. I wonder if the shop owner is the property owner, or if its rented space.

It's a great location for a convenience store. God knows I've been pining for a store within walking distance where I can pick up the occasional six pack... But Linda's ain't it. 

looks great and i like the twee garage artwork. cle could use more of that (but not too much lol).

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Putzing around this area it's seriously so different from like a year and some ago. Took this out of the sunroof ha

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On 6/29/2020 at 5:32 PM, surfohio said:

This is like the third HIngetown mural from an American Greetings alum. 

 

Dinara Mirtalipova is a self taught illustrator/designer. Born and raised in Tashkent, Uzbekistan, she eventually landed in snowy Ohio. Dinara studied Computer Science at the Tashkent State University of Economics, however her true passion was always patterns and illustration. Raised in Soviet Uzbek culture, Dinara inhabited Uzbek/Russian folklore that still influences her work. 

 

https://www.mirdinara.com/

 

 

nice -- i wrote her and invited her to stop by uo/this thread.

From this past weekend...

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