Can you see Church and State from within browns stadium? Probably not a question anyone really had, but here you go, apparently you can 

 

Photo update from yesterday. I reallyyyy love this development, probably my favorite of all the new apartment buildings going up around the city lately. 
 

The architecture is visually impactful, texturally unique, and playfully captivating. The massive mural and animated plaza add extra levels of coolness. I can’t wait for the plaza to become even more activated, since it’s already so fun to walk through. What an all around fantastic development for CLE!

 

 

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 22, 2020

Seeds & Sprouts XIV - Early intel on real estate projects

 

Ohio City's Church+State gets first commercial tenant

 

The large new development Church+State in Ohio City's Hingetown neighborhood is getting its first commercial tenant, according to a building permit application submitted to the city this week. Great Lakes Health & Wellness will lease 1,769 square feet on the ground floor of the larger of the two buildings -- State, 2865 Detroit Ave.

 

Great Lakes Health & Wellness, based in suburban Westlake, has offered comprehensive chiropractic services since 2004 when it was founded by Dr. Robert Leonard. It is located in the Emerald Square shopping strip, 29540 Center Ridge Rd., at the intersection with Crocker-Stearns Road. Estimated cost to build out the commercial space in the State building is $160,000, the application shows.

 

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On 11/22/2020 at 2:22 PM, urbanetics_ said:

Photo update from yesterday. I reallyyyy love this development, probably my favorite of all the new apartment buildings going up around the city lately.

 

 

What's on the second and/or third floors of Church & State covered by the green bird art---is that parking? giant windowless gym?

 

 

Edited December 24, 20204 yr by Pugu

^Parking! I love how the mural covers it up and turns something traditionally ugly into a fun and captivating focal point.

^Cool---I like that it is hidden, too. That should be a city-wide rule!

I heard that the rumored AT&T that was supposed to be opening, fell apart due to ADA compliance issues. Not sure how true that is due to the development being new so I'd imagine it would be compliant from the beginning, just passing info along.

10 minutes ago, MyPhoneDead said:

I heard that the rumored AT&T that was supposed to be opening, fell apart due to ADA compliance issues. Not sure how true that is due to the development being new so I'd imagine it would be compliant from the beginning, just passing info along.

I agree that sounds strange for the reason you give.  Could they have possibly screwed up handicap parking in the garage in some manner?  If weirdly true a lawsuit against the architect may be in the offering (typical lawyer think here...first thing we jump on).  I would imagine ADA compliance is Architecture 101.

ADA compliance is actually pretty tough, there are consultants who make a good living on reviewing plans.

2 minutes ago, mtnbikefan said:

ADA compliance is actually pretty tough, there are consultants who make a good living on reviewing plans.

oh boy.  Defendant number 2.  More deep pockets.  And even more attorney fees to spread around.  Life is good.😉  Actually, my guts says that if AT&T actually did fall through it was for another reason.

3 minutes ago, Htsguy said:

oh boy.  Defendant number 2.  More deep pockets.  And even more attorney fees to spread around.  Life is good.😉  Actually, my guts says that if AT&T actually did fall through it was for another reason.

 

Yeah - and from my (limited) understanding, businesses can receive variances to operate while ADA plans are under review and in process

 

https://fox8.com/news/just-embrace-life-and-get-out-there-and-have-fun-ohio-city-attraction-creating-a-buzz/

So I have to say - I've been a little disappointed in the lack of retail on the ground floor at this point. I know there's some external factors with the pandemic, but having only a chiropractor in such a dynamic space is a little concerning. 

12 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

So I have to say - I've been a little disappointed in the lack of retail on the ground floor at this point. I know there's some external factors with the pandemic, but having only a chiropractor in such a dynamic space is a little concerning. 

I believe that the intention of the developer was to have neighborhood amenities in the retail space as opposed to high-end restaurants or retail.  I think medical offices was one of the potential uses that they referenced at a public meeting during pre-development.  

1 hour ago, YABO713 said:

So I have to say - I've been a little disappointed in the lack of retail on the ground floor at this point. I know there's some external factors with the pandemic, but having only a chiropractor in such a dynamic space is a little concerning. 

 

Corus 45 is opening a location there and a restaurant will be announced soon.

3 hours ago, freefourur said:

I believe that the intention of the developer was to have neighborhood amenities in the retail space as opposed to high-end restaurants or retail.  I think medical offices was one of the potential uses that they referenced at a public meeting during pre-development.  

 

Love that idea. 

 

And I'm not trying to be a downer at all, the development is thoughtful and a net positive on the area. I'm just surprised those tenants are already resolved / in there. 

Did the Longhouses at Hingetown, ever start construcrion?

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1 hour ago, freethink said:

Did the Longhouses at Hingetown, ever start construcrion?

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Yup, the frames are up. 

Hate to be a jerk and negative Nancy - because I'm bullish on Hingetown - but how long is the "Let's French" space just going to sit there? I'd heard a restaurant was supposed to open in that spot in 2021.

 

I love Church and State, but the retail element has been really disappointing - hope that changes. 

17 hours ago, YABO713 said:

Hate to be a jerk and negative Nancy - because I'm bullish on Hingetown - but how long is the "Let's French" space just going to sit there? I'd heard a restaurant was supposed to open in that spot in 2021.

 

I love Church and State, but the retail element has been really disappointing - hope that changes. 

 

Anyone have an update on this? I'm genuinely curious

Are there plans to re-wrap the parking garage?  The previous wrap was attractive but didn't

 hold up to the weather.

27 minutes ago, sooner said:

Are there plans to re-wrap the parking garage?  The previous wrap was attractive but didn't

 hold up to the weather.

Going back to a post here from @tykapson June 29, 2020, the plan is to change out the artwork every 3-5 years. 

Thanks.  Probably need to rethink the material they use however.  

........ what about the restaurant space lol

We FINALLY!!! have ground floor retail at church+state, with the likes of Patron Saint just opening. Had to drop my bike off at Joy Machines and was walking across the street for a beverage at North High and noticed it, sign and all! Looked it up and looks pretty cool/trendy.

Also, the flowers in the balcony planters at Q2 look phenominal!!


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22 minutes ago, GREGinPARMA said:

We FINALLY!!! have ground floor retail at church+state, with the likes of Patron Saint just opening. Had to drop my bike off at Joy Machines and was walking across the street for a beverage at North High and noticed it, sign and all! Looked it up and looks pretty cool/trendy.

Also, the flowers in the balcony planters at Q2 look phenominal!!


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Isn't Patron Saint in the Vitrolite Building?

Isn't Patron Saint in the Vitrolite Building?

Yes, sorry everyone i was completely wrong. My bad. Patron Saint is closer to Saucy. The sign I saw was Great Lakes something. Apologies.


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