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38 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

Didn't LeCharles Bentley go to St. Ignatius?  If so, then unimpressed by that school.  And after looking at their Wikipedia page of alum, I'm not impressed.  I'm sure Cleveland has better schools.  Actually, I know Cleveland has better schools.

 

... didn't you just give me a well-deserved scolding for this sort of thing... 

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Still a few weeks out from my move to Cleveland (Ohio City specifically), and I love BBQ. How would people rank the places on the west side? Based on photos alone, Proof has been looking good. 

5 hours ago, YABO713 said:

 

... didn't you just give me a well-deserved scolding for this sort of thing... 

 

Glad you got the point 😃.

"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

3 hours ago, daybreaker said:

Still a few weeks out from my move to Cleveland (Ohio City specifically), and I love BBQ. How would people rank the places on the west side? Based on photos alone, Proof has been looking good. 

 

1. Sweet Pork Wilson's 

2. Barabicu (Parma)

3. Proof

4. Woodstock

5. Landmark

looks fun and classy —

 

 

Birdietown Mini Golf and Lounge to Open in Lakewood This Fall

 

In addition to 18 holes of indoor, adult-only putt-putt, the venue will include two bars and a restaurant whose menu will be designed by Chef Jill Vedaa

 

By Douglas Trattner on Wed, Aug 7, 2024

 

 

Over the past few years, the so-called eatertainment trend has brought us venues that blend food, drink and fun in the form of arcade games, duckpin bowling, shuffleboard and golf sims. One of the latest activities to enter the ring is miniature golf, with places like Puttshack and Puttery making names for themselves.

One person bullish on the concept is Tim Frazee, who will open Birdietown Mini Golf and Lounge in the Birdtown neighborhood of Lakewood. The two-level, 12,000-square-foot venue will take shape in the Nest facility (12501 Madison Ave.), which is home to Phoenix Coffee and Heyday Collective, which Frazee operates with his wife Erin.

 

 

more:

https://www.clevescene.com/food-drink/birdietown-mini-golf-and-lounge-to-open-in-lakewood-this-fall-44872737

also looks nice —

 

 

 

Charter House Grille on East 185th Now Open

 

“Nobody is going to walk in here and say there’s nothing here I can’t eat,” says owner Chris King.

 

By Douglas Trattner on Wed, Aug 7, 2024

 

 

Today's the day for Chris King, who will open the doors to Charter House Grille (991 E. 185th St., 216-920-2060) at 3 p.m. 

King purchased the former Bistro 185 property two years ago and has completely renovated the interior as well as the exterior. Charter House Grille bears little resemblance to its predecessor -- or to John Christie’s Tavern, which predated that restaurant.

 

The woodsy neighborhood tavern feel has been swapped for cool, contemporary and posh. A 14-seat quartz bar joins a 70-seat dining room with custom velvet-wrapped booths and banquettes. Colorful murals anchor the room, and more original artwork is on the way.

 

 

more:

https://www.clevescene.com/food-drink/charter-house-grille-on-east-185th-now-open-44878921

 

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Douglas Trattner — Charter House Grille is opening August 8th on East 185th Street.

 

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New coffee shop seen as symbol of turnaround at Shaker Square

 

Melissa Garrett-Hirsch, a Cleveland-area entrepreneur and IT professional, has agreed to open a new coffee house — Café Indigo — in the spot long occupied by Dewey's Coffee on Cleveland's Shaker Square.

 

Filling the storefront that has been vacant since the end of 2022 following a short-lived tenancy by Biggby Coffee is a symbol of Shaker Square's comeback, said Tania Menesse, president and CEO of Cleveland Neighborhood Progress, speaking during an event at the square Monday afternoon.

 

Nonprofit organizations Cleveland Neighborhood Progress and Burten Bell Carr Development Inc. in August 2022 used $11 million in loans from the city to acquire what could be Cleveland's best-known historic shopping district after its former owner was threatened with foreclosure.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cleveland/news/2024/08/27/cafe-indigo-open-shaker-square-turnaound.html

 

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This looks cool. Market Garden Brewery - new rooftop patio. 
 

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When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

5 minutes ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

This looks cool. Market Garden Brewery - new rooftop patio. 
 

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I hope they're going to add umbrellas or a canopy! Looks hot!

 

I saw another picture looking north-east from the rooftop, they really need to bury the utility lines... it's a real eyesore. 

I mean, for the most part, rooftop anything is good. 

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‘tis the season — you gotta love the cleve’s mysteriously quirky and long, long running love for new england clam bakes —

 

 

 

11 Cleveland-Area Clambakes We Love

 

By Scene Staff on Fri, Oct 

 

 

As rail travel popularized in the mid 1800s, so did the tradition of the Cleveland clambake.

“There was a source of shellfish that came through Cleveland on rail,” says Charles Young, the fourth-generation vice president of Euclid Fish Co. The family business — founded by John Comella 80 years ago and originally named Chef Comella’s Fish and Clambake Co. — helped define Cleveland’s take on one-pot steamed seafood: clams, chicken, corn, coleslaw, bread and, maybe, sausage.

As summer turns to fall, restaurants offer specials, but many families still host backyard renditions, too.

“During that small time period, we’re probably consuming more clams than any other state on the East Coast,” Young says. “It just goes to show the popularity of it, that it’s really for everybody.” 

Here are 11 places to try.

 

 

more:

https://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/11-cleveland-area-clambakes-we-love/Slideshow/45243539

 

 

 

Had dinner with 5 others at Fahrenheit Friday. Very loud, very glitzy crowd, pretty good food, big drinks, and a few baseball players (I recognized only Gavin Williams).  Great people watching.  I'd go back.

Remember: It's the Year of the Snake

On 10/16/2024 at 3:46 PM, mrnyc said:

 

gonna have to go here when I get homesick for food, to test it out. Ironically I'm back in New Orleans right now for my birthday week as well. Might be able to get there on Sunday for the last day of their celebration.

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its not terrible, but I wouldn't call it authentic louisiana cooking. 

2 hours ago, Whipjacka said:

its not terrible, but I wouldn't call it authentic louisiana cooking. 

Not discounting your opinion, but I respectfully disagree. I used to live in New Orleans and I love it. Even the architecture is authentic to me. The wrought iron fence and gas lamps, etc.

2 hours ago, HugeMilkshake said:

Not discounting your opinion, but I respectfully disagree. I used to live in New Orleans and I love it. Even the architecture is authentic to me. The wrought iron fence and gas lamps, etc.

Haven't been to New Orleans but I thought food and atmosphere was pretty good; only suggestion - do not sit at a table below the balcony (drinks spilling, etc.) Fortunately I only witnessed someone else's misfortune with that.

notice -- adults only 😂

 

 

 

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CLEVELAND'S FOREST CITY BREWERY OPTS FOR ADULTS-ONLY POLICY, CITING ISSUES WITH 'IRRESPONSIBLE PARENTS'

 

Caleb Lawson

Sep 28, 2024

 

Forest City Brewery in Cleveland bans children under 16 due to issues with "irresponsible parents," causing mixed community reactions.

 

 

more:

https://hoodline.com/news/cleveland/retail-industry/

 

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On 10/19/2024 at 5:19 AM, mrnyc said:


I will be happy when the unfortunate trend of using the word “social” in restaurant names has abated. Google “social restaurant Cleveland” and there are at least 12 of them, lol. 
 

6 hours ago, jeremyck01 said:


I will be happy when the unfortunate trend of using the word “social” in restaurant names has abated. Google “social restaurant Cleveland” and there are at least 12 of them, lol. 
 

 

It's a way to subtly appeal to people who still see eating as a collective rather than individual activity.  

 

The trend towards the latter was strong during the virus, but was there both before and after and really goes back to when microwave ovens became popular.

On 10/21/2024 at 10:24 AM, mrnyc said:

notice -- adults only 😂

 

 

 

Cleveland-Retail & Industry

CLEVELAND'S FOREST CITY BREWERY OPTS FOR ADULTS-ONLY POLICY, CITING ISSUES WITH 'IRRESPONSIBLE PARENTS'

 

Caleb Lawson

Sep 28, 2024

 

Forest City Brewery in Cleveland bans children under 16 due to issues with "irresponsible parents," causing mixed community reactions.

 

 

more:

https://hoodline.com/news/cleveland/retail-industry/

 

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I really hate the growing trend of discriminating against people based on their age. 

 

You always hear about how kids are never outside anymore and just sit inside and scroll social media or play video games. Maybe its because they're not welcome, or outright barred from being independent human beings. Not to mention the isolation of not being able to drive when living in suburbia, but that's another rant.

 

Crocker Park and Beachwood Mall have banned anyone under 18 from being on their own. I've seen bars and restaurants extending that to 25 or even 30+. People will call CPS on people for letting their kids play at the park by themselves. How do we expect these kids to grow up to be well-adjusted and confident adults?

 

I'm 25 myself, so maybe that's why I'm more sympathetic than most. It wasn't that long ago that I felt anxious about being allowed to interact with society on my own when these policies started popping up. It's a crappy feeling. 

 

You can make whatever rules you want against young people and no one bats an eye. Every argument that attempts to rationalize these rules follows the same logic as any other bigoted thinking. The "pro" argument sounds pretty harsh when you replace the word "kids" with any other minority group.

11 minutes ago, Zagapi said:

 

I really hate the growing trend of discriminating against people based on their age. 

 

You always hear about how kids are never outside anymore and just sit inside and scroll social media or play video games. Maybe its because they're not welcome, or outright barred from being independent human beings. Not to mention the isolation of not being able to drive when living in suburbia, but that's another rant.

 

Crocker Park and Beachwood Mall have banned anyone under 18 from being on their own. I've seen bars and restaurants extending that to 25 or even 30+. People will call CPS on people for letting their kids play at the park by themselves. How do we expect these kids to grow up to be well-adjusted and confident adults?

 

I'm 25 myself, so maybe that's why I'm more sympathetic than most. It wasn't that long ago that I felt anxious about being allowed to interact with society on my own when these policies started popping up. It's a crappy feeling. 

 

You can make whatever rules you want against young people and no one bats an eye. Every argument that attempts to rationalize these rules follows the same logic as any other bigoted thinking. The "pro" argument sounds pretty harsh when you replace the word "kids" with any other minority group.

I'm sympathetic to this argument, kids should absolutely have more freedom, be able to walk a mile home alone, go to pick up milk, ride transit by themselves, etc. 

 

But this is a bar. I know they use the term  brewery and they serve some food, but it's mostly a bar (and a pretty good one). Kids can't drink. This isn't an issue of kids being allowed to be independent. If anything this is more of a discriminating against parents thing, but even then... There aught to be some places in society that are meant for adults, not kids, and not even families. Bars seem like a great fit for that category. 

 

Totally fine with this decision. If other bars wish to follow suit, or not, I think that's fine. They should be able to make this decision for themselves without social censor either way. 

If parents refuse to parent, kids/teens are endlessly disruptive, and communities refuse to self-police, I can't blame restaurants, malls and other establishments from taking mitigating measures.

 

I'm sure Beachwood Place isn't crazy about curfews, but they're less crazy about the hostilities and problems that seem to plague every f-cking city, neighborhood, fair, and mall eventually. 

 

And since businesses can't really target behavior because of certain overlaps, then they push this collective punishment on all kids and adolescents. 

24 minutes ago, Ethan said:

I'm sympathetic to this argument, kids should absolutely have more freedom, be able to walk a mile home alone, go to pick up milk, ride transit by themselves, etc. 

 

But this is a bar. I know they use the term  brewery and they serve some food, but it's mostly a bar (and a pretty good one). Kids can't drink. This isn't an issue of kids being allowed to be independent. If anything this is more of a discriminating against parents thing, but even then... There aught to be some places in society that are meant for adults, not kids, and not even families. Bars seem like a great fit for that category. 

 

Totally fine with this decision. If other bars wish to follow suit, or not, I think that's fine. They should be able to make this decision for themselves without social censor either way. 

 

This was my first thought.   In fact, most bars that serve food close the kitchen before they close the bar, and are 21 and over after that point.

^ good point, in that when do you draw the line when its totally inappropriate? happy hours? 7pm? 8pm??

 

yeah i get annoyed with kids in bars sometimes like anybody else and wish there were still third places just for adults.

 

that said, i have brought kids to bars myself, well taverns technically, like to eat or watch a game, and also ran around in bars myself occassionally like with my dad when i was little, so it’s kind of hypocritical to crab too much about it.

 

i am glad a few places chose to put their foot down on the matter tho, so at least you have a few scattered options.

 

and actually come to think of it what annoys me is never kids in the bar with pro parents, its thee kid of the ‘first time’ mommy and daddy, aka the starter kid parents, that don’t know what they are doing yet — stay away until you have the second one rookie! 😂

I think a few things here are true: 

 

A) We should have some guidelines on when kids should be in bars, unless otherwise perfectly well behaved in a booth or at a pinball machine. (My dad coached HS basketball and after Friday night games we'd go out to a bar in Parma Heights with the other coaches and their families, and it was some of my favorite memories). 

 

B) We should be comfortable asking people to leave whose children are being disruptive. Parents should also discipline their damn kids - permissive parenting is a joke and, imo, used by people who are too lazy to work with their kids to change behaviors. 

 

C) Parents are, generally, too closely scrutinized for how closely they're watching their kids. If no one is being harmed or bothered, who cares. 

 

D) As Americans, we pretend to be pro-family but in many subtle ways are actually the opposite. If you go out in Ireland or Italy, you'll find kids in pubs/bars/restaurants well passed hours, and their noise is absorbed as part of the atmosphere, rather than an inconvenience to overcome. 

On 10/23/2024 at 9:33 AM, Zagapi said:

 

I really hate the growing trend of discriminating against people based on their age. 

 

You always hear about how kids are never outside anymore and just sit inside and scroll social media or play video games. Maybe its because they're not welcome, or outright barred from being independent human beings. Not to mention the isolation of not being able to drive when living in suburbia, but that's another rant.

 

Crocker Park and Beachwood Mall have banned anyone under 18 from being on their own. I've seen bars and restaurants extending that to 25 or even 30+. People will call CPS on people for letting their kids play at the park by themselves. How do we expect these kids to grow up to be well-adjusted and confident adults?

 

I'm 25 myself, so maybe that's why I'm more sympathetic than most. It wasn't that long ago that I felt anxious about being allowed to interact with society on my own when these policies started popping up. It's a crappy feeling. 

 

You can make whatever rules you want against young people and no one bats an eye. Every argument that attempts to rationalize these rules follows the same logic as any other bigoted thinking. The "pro" argument sounds pretty harsh when you replace the word "kids" with any other minority group.

I understand your analogy of replacing "kids" with any other minority group, sounds harsh. But it's just not the same. Discriminating against kids is very different than discriminating against other groups, because they're kids. Kids are not fully grown, consenting adults. There are all kinds of societal norms and laws put into place to protect kids for that very reason. Technically, that is discrimination. And that is ok. 

 

And it sure seems like this bar is making a business decision, not one based on hatred of children.

Saucy Brew Works taking Urban Meyer's Pint House to Cleveland

 

Urban Meyer’s Pint House is expanding to Cleveland.

 

As reported Friday by Cleveland Scene, the Dublin-founded restaurant brand will add a new location next year in that city’s Gateway District.

 

The space is a former Winking Lizard.

 

Cleveland-based Saucy Brew Works became a partner in the Urban Meyer’s Pint House brand and took over operations of the Bridge Park restaurant in the spring.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/10/25/saucy-brew-works-urban-meyer-pint-house-cleveland.html

 

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Eton Chagrin Boulevard update:

1 hour ago, SgtBarone said:

Eton Chagrin Boulevard update:

 

And the leasing map for Eton continues to say "lease pending" for the former Bravo! and Mitchell's Fish Market spaces - though now updated with the 3 above. Only the former North Face space is listed as available, no pending lease (as it relates to exterior spaces there.)

 

The smallish Eton Lululemon, originally proposed in marketing materials for the Pinecrest space just opened with Alo, continues to be the athleisure outlier, as others are all at Pinecrest. Would think the somewhat larger North Face space could be in the running for them if not moving to somewhere in Pinecrest. 

On 4/23/2024 at 8:25 PM, ColDayMan said:

The Astro Restaurant opens in former Hard Rock Cafe space in Cleveland's Tower City

 

The Astro Restaurant opened Tuesday in downtown Cleveland's Tower City Center in the location once occupied by Hard Rock Cafe.

 

Andre Scott, Jeremiah Burks, Christopher Thomas and Ryan Gullatt — the same restaurateurs who opened The Haunted House Restaurant in Cleveland Heights in 2021 — are managing the new space-themed restaurant in the Tower City location that had been vacant for eight years.

Has anyone been to Astro?  How is it?  

13 hours ago, LibertyBlvd said:

Has anyone been to Astro?  How is it?  

The food quality was ok. It was surprisingly pricey. You're paying for the atmosphere. (Pun very very much intended). The space/sci-fi movies playing on the TVs is a nice touch and the artwork is super cool all over the place. 

 

It's the type of place that if in the right location would be a cool tourist draw. The artwork and murals throughout are outstanding. I'd recommend going to check it out. It's not the type of place I would go back to for the express purpose of eating. It would be to show it off to a sci-fi fan or to a kid. 

10 hours ago, HugeMilkshake said:

... It's not the type of place I would go back to for the express purpose of eating. It would be to show it off to a sci-fi fan or to a kid. 

Makes me wonder how long it will last.

this very strange new delivery service called wonder started up around the ny metro here. its owned by a walmart honcho who bought celebrity chef dish recipes, then cooks them in a ghost kitchen mostly for delivery. its taking the place of food halls and they plan to expand greatly so look for it, maybe.

 

anyway, eater reviewed wonder and homie got slammed — 🙀

 

 

 

Are the Dishes Any Good at the Fastest-Growing Food Delivery in New York?

 

Celebrity chefs and their takeout options at three of six locations of Wonder 

by Robert Sietsema

 

 

 

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The promised eggplant dressing was virtually undetectable.

 

Spicy pepper & feta sandwich at Yasas by Michael Symon ($10)


After seeing Symon on numerous food competition shows, it’s weird to find him concocting what might be the world’s most boring sandwich, chopped raw vegetables and crumbled cheese on a pita so stale it might serve as a catcher’s mitt. Grade: D

 

 

more:

https://ny.eater.com/2024/5/23/24161896/wonder-app-food-hall-ghost-kitchen-nyc-nj-pa-review

 

 

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