October 4, 2024Oct 4 Quote Makes me excited to see the former Macys HQ exterior fully cleaned before tenants move in. Macy's has white panels on it, it will still look white when it's finished. Kroger is clear anodized aluminum which oxidizes the way Michael Jackson did, by getting duller and whiter as it ages. Edited October 4, 2024Oct 4 by ucgrady
October 4, 2024Oct 4 16 minutes ago, ucgrady said: Macy's has white panels on it, it will still look white when it's finished. True but those white panels are REALLY dirty, even from the street walking past you can clearly see the dirt and residue all over. Once cleaned the white will really pop.
October 4, 2024Oct 4 1 hour ago, ucgrady said: Macy's has white panels on it, it will still look white when it's finished. Kroger is clear anodized aluminum which oxidizes the way Michael Jackson did, by getting duller and whiter as it ages. Hey, Jam was my jam! *BANNED!!!* "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 4, 2024Oct 4 2 hours ago, ucgrady said: Macy's has white panels on it, it will still look white when it's finished. Kroger is clear anodized aluminum which oxidizes the way Michael Jackson did, by getting duller and whiter as it ages. I spent nearly 12 years with a company that had an aluminum anodizing facility. The Jacksonian range of darkness happens right out of the process, I'm not familiar with it getting lighter over time. If CDM hates your MJ related comment he'd really hate mine. >:0
October 8, 2024Oct 8 Great American Tower's largest tenant renews lease to keep HQ downtown By Steve Watkins – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier Oct 8, 2024 The largest tenant in downtown Cincinnati’s biggest office building has renewed its lease. Publicly traded insurance giant American Financial Group Inc. (NYSE: AFG) has signed a new lease to keep its headquarters in Great American Tower, company spokesperson Diane Weidner told me. American Financial, led by co-CEOs Carl Lindner III and Craig Lindner, has committed to continue to occupy numerous floors in the 41-floor tower at Fourth and Sycamore streets. It continues to be the tower’s largest tenant. American Financial and its largest subsidiary, Great American Insurance Group, are reducing their space in Great American Tower by three floors, Weidner said. That’s because it sold its Great American Life Insurance Co. annuity group to Massachusetts Mutual Life Insurance Co. in May 2021. The sale resulted in more than 600 employees shifting to MassMutual. But American Financial kept more space in the new lease than it originally planned. “We had initially planned to return four floors within our lease, but given planned growth at Great American, we ultimately returned three,” Weidner said. MORE
October 10, 2024Oct 10 $23.5M downtown Cincinnati project brings region's priciest apartments: PHOTOS By Brian Planalp – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier Updated Oct 10, 2024 6:56am EDT Construction is complete and the units are almost fully occupied at 550 At Lytle Park following a two-year renovation project that reset the top end of Greater Cincinnati’s luxury apartment market. The 52-year-old building is located at 550 E. Fourth St. in a quadrant of downtown Cincinnati controlled overwhelmingly by Western & Southern Financial Group. Eagle Realty Group, a wholly owned subsidiary of Western & Southern, began the $23.5 million renovation in May 2022. M+A Architects, now MA Design, led the architectural and interior design efforts. HGC Construction was the general contractor. MORE
October 10, 2024Oct 10 53 minutes ago, The_Cincinnati_Kid said: $23.5M downtown Cincinnati project brings region's priciest apartments: PHOTOS By Brian Planalp – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier Updated Oct 10, 2024 6:56am EDT Construction is complete and the units are almost fully occupied at 550 At Lytle Park following a two-year renovation project that reset the top end of Greater Cincinnati’s luxury apartment market. The 52-year-old building is located at 550 E. Fourth St. in a quadrant of downtown Cincinnati controlled overwhelmingly by Western & Southern Financial Group. Eagle Realty Group, a wholly owned subsidiary of Western & Southern, began the $23.5 million renovation in May 2022. M+A Architects, now MA Design, led the architectural and interior design efforts. HGC Construction was the general contractor. MORE Absolutely top of the line apartments. The prices are extraordinary but im sure they are going to do very well. This building will be the most exclusive in Cincy by far.
October 21, 2024Oct 21 Premier Equities Holding Group plans overhaul of historic Cincinnati Fourth Street building By Chris Wetterich – Staff reporter and columnist, Cincinnati Business Courier Oct 21, 2024 A suburban investment firm plans a $5.2 million transformation of a vacant building in the West Fourth Street historic district, turning it into a mix of short- and long-term rentals. Mason-based Premier Equities Holding Group acquired the former Fettner-Friedman Furs building, at 113 W. Fourth St., Oct. 11 for about $1 million and plans to spend the next two years redeveloping it into the Exchange Lofts. The building will have up to 25 units. The building makes an attractive short-term rental play because of its close proximity to Great American Ball Park, Paycor Stadium and the Duke Energy Convention Center, said partner Maya Rodriguez. MORE
October 21, 2024Oct 21 I'm not sure if there have been any updates on the Macy's building recently, but during Blink I noticed that they had a lot of interior lights on and it certainly looks like they're making progress.
October 21, 2024Oct 21 I only got a quick pic but the transportation operation in the Riverfront Transit Center was MASSIVE! During Blink Fest Busses from Metro, Tank and Butler County pouring into the center every minute. Thousands of people lined up waiting for available seats. I’m officially sold on Metro moving government square ops to the Center. It does need a refresh now tho, new permanent signage, video boards installed for next departures, the 2nd street glass entrances need repairs and cleaned and seating would need to be installed along the tunnel.
October 21, 2024Oct 21 25 minutes ago, 646empire said: I only got a quick pic but the transportation operation in the Riverfront Transit Center was MASSIVE! During Blink Fest Busses from Metro, Tank and Butler County pouring into the center every minute. Thousands of people lined up waiting for available seats. I’m officially sold on Metro moving government square ops to the Center. It does need a refresh now tho, new permanent signage, video boards installed for next departures, the 2nd street glass entrances need repairs and cleaned and seating would need to be installed along the tunnel. While the operation was awesome to see, access to the RTC is still absolutely inefficient. Getting in and out of there was way more time than it needed to be. I took the 78 down from Wyoming and it took at least 20 minutes to go from Five Points (McMicken at Vine) to the entrance of the RTC. We took Walnut to Pete Rose to Mehring, went past the Reds and Bengals stadiums, then underneath into the RTC. There's just limited access points to get there. Google Maps says Govt Square to Five Points is 7 minutes. As designed, it really only makes sense for a Rail or BRT line that travels to both East and West Sides of town. N/S travel is hampered by this design. The other issue is that there is no turnaround space for buses. So if there is one efficient way in and out, say for a bus that runs a route along Gilbert/Montgomery to the East Side, they still will have to take a 5-10 minute detour either on the way in or out (entering or exiting on the west side of the RTC). Easily fixable issues: -None of the parking garage elevators at Radius on the Banks that had "TC" floors allowed you to press that option, you had to cross 2nd St. One of the two elevators directly to the RTC on that side of 2nd was out of service. So just 1 elevator out of 4 was operational. -I talked to bus drivers, who (like normal humans and employees) hated the change to RTC for various reasons, they are very leery of moving to the RTC permanently. They'll get over it of course, but still worth noting. Edited October 21, 2024Oct 21 by 10albersa
October 21, 2024Oct 21 I think the RTC makes the most sense as a location for long distance commuter routes, east/west routes, and Greyhound/Megabus, etc. It makes no sense to reroute the 17, 78, 11, 4, etc to the RTC. It's way too inefficient. An express bus from downtown to a neighboring county or an east/west route that can utilize the existing street grid like the 33, 21, etc could definitely find the RTC convenient.
October 21, 2024Oct 21 1 hour ago, taestell said: I'm not sure if there have been any updates on the Macy's building recently, but during Blink I noticed that they had a lot of interior lights on and it certainly looks like they're making progress. I saw them moving in dozens of refrigerators today, so must be nearing occupancy.
October 21, 2024Oct 21 1 hour ago, 10albersa said: While the operation was awesome to see, access to the RTC is still absolutely inefficient. Getting in and out of there was way more time than it needed to be. I took the 78 down from Wyoming and it took at least 20 minutes to go from Five Points (McMicken at Vine) to the entrance of the RTC. We took Walnut to Pete Rose to Mehring, went past the Reds and Bengals stadiums, then underneath into the RTC. There's just limited access points to get there. Google Maps says Govt Square to Five Points is 7 minutes. As designed, it really only makes sense for a Rail or BRT line that travels to both East and West Sides of town. N/S travel is hampered by this design. The other issue is that there is no turnaround space for buses. So if there is one efficient way in and out, say for a bus that runs a route along Gilbert/Montgomery to the East Side, they still will have to take a 5-10 minute detour either on the way in or out (entering or exiting on the west side of the RTC). Easily fixable issues: -None of the parking garage elevators at Radius on the Banks that had "TC" floors allowed you to press that option, you had to cross 2nd St. One of the two elevators directly to the RTC on that side of 2nd was out of service. So just 1 elevator out of 4 was operational. -I talked to bus drivers, who (like normal humans and employees) hated the change to RTC for various reasons, they are very leery of moving to the RTC permanently. They'll get over it of course, but still worth noting. The added travel time had more to do with BLINK traffic than access to the transit center. I watched police escorts for buses due to the enormous amount of traffic and street closures. I agree with your other facility points like elevators etc which is why I said it would need renovations before becoming a daily hub. If metro did move down there I’m sure it would come with millions in upgrades and maintenance Edited October 21, 2024Oct 21 by 646empire
October 22, 2024Oct 22 1 hour ago, 646empire said: If metro did move down there I’m sure it would come with millions in upgrades and maintenance What's the opportunity cost of that? There's an awful lot of things that SORTA would no longer be able to pay for, like new bus routes elsewhere in the county, expanding frequency of existing routes, or building more transit centers. As for your overall point, look at a map of downtown. The entry and exit opportunities are very limited, especially for any routes that are not already along the river. It's just an inherently inefficient routing. They have to send vehicles to the outside edges of downtown to use it, which adds up quickly. It's starting to look like SORTA will not be using it for BRT because the costs are not worth it. Having a station on 2nd, opposite the streetcar station, saves them a lot of time, freeing up operators which in turn increases their operational capacity. The FTA grant has limits to how much funding it will provide, while also having a minimum required in local funding, so there is the potential that using the RTC gets them closer to those limits.
October 22, 2024Oct 22 58 minutes ago, Dev said: What's the opportunity cost of that? There's an awful lot of things that SORTA would no longer be able to pay for, like new bus routes elsewhere in the county, expanding frequency of existing routes, or building more transit centers. A Government Square renovation is going to cost millions. A move to the Riverfront is going to cost millions. It makes no difference. If a move to the riverfront doesn’t happen they are still going to renovate Government Square and the transit center will just remain empty for the next decade/s and decay. Then in 20+ years when Cincy finally gets some kind of rail it’s going to cost a huge sum to refurbish it. The tunnel it self looks ok from what I could tell but it was also clear that not having a major user like metro or greyhound and the maintenance teams and dollars that would come with them is causing the center to age faster. Edited October 22, 2024Oct 22 by 646empire
October 22, 2024Oct 22 55 minutes ago, Dev said: As for your overall point, look at a map of downtown. The entry and exit opportunities are very limited Im not understanding this point tho and have seen it multiple times. The transit center doesn’t need a ton of access points to make sense. Buses were entering the center from both East and West and that’s enough as demonstrated this past weekend especially when you add in the fact only a small percentage of the BLINK volume of buses and traffic would be using the center during normal days. Many routes will be optimized/adjusted for access to the center if chosen as well. It would also be nice for bus users to be better sheltered in the tunnel than out in the elements like Government Square during winter/rain especially. Look I don’t actually believe they are going to move operations because I don’t think the gov and businesses down there want the kind of craziness you see around Government Square, from the high school students acting a fool to the homeless and everything else spread across those blocks it’s a mess many days. But I actually feel like using the tunnel could also help keeping things contained and police being better able to keeps a lid on things in a confined environment. Edited October 22, 2024Oct 22 by 646empire
October 22, 2024Oct 22 54 minutes ago, 646empire said: A Government Square renovation is going to cost millions. A move to the Riverfront is going to cost millions. It makes no difference. If a move to the riverfront doesn’t happen they are still going to renovate Government Square and the transit center will just remain empty for the next decade/s and decay. Then in 20+ years when Cincy finally gets some kind of rail it’s going to cost a huge sum to refurbish it. The tunnel it self looks ok from what I could tell but it was also clear that not having a major user like metro or greyhound and the maintenance teams and dollars that would come with them is causing the center to age faster. So, a few things. 1) if the RTC is ever used for rail it's going to cost millions. It doesn't matter if the RTC is being used as a bus station in the meantime. It doesn't matter if we renovate it in 2025, and then decide to put rail in in 2026. If we don't plan on rail (meaning actual construction plans with exact engineering requirements) we are going to have to rip out a ton of stuff and redo it. And without federal funding and a full plan, we can't just put everything in place. 2) If we renovated it in 2025, and then decided to build rail and it would open in 2040, we'd probably still have to do a complete renovation because 15-20 years is probably the life expectancy of any regularly used transit hub. Materials age, usage wears down surfaces, electronics break, new technology becomes important, etc. 3) maintenance and operations (security, janitorial, Metro staff, HVAC, etc) will be much higher at the RTC than an outdoor facility like Government Square. As much as I want the RTC to be used, I really didn't think we should be using it just to use it. If we can pencil out the math to utilize it for things like Intercity travel I'd be all for it.
October 22, 2024Oct 22 8 hours ago, ryanlammi said: So, a few things. 1) if the RTC is ever used for rail it's going to cost millions. It doesn't matter if the RTC is being used as a bus station in the meantime. It doesn't matter if we renovate it in 2025, and then decide to put rail in in 2026. If we don't plan on rail (meaning actual construction plans with exact engineering requirements) we are going to have to rip out a ton of stuff and redo it. And without federal funding and a full plan, we can't just put everything in place. 2) If we renovated it in 2025, and then decided to build rail and it would open in 2040, we'd probably still have to do a complete renovation because 15-20 years is probably the life expectancy of any regularly used transit hub. Materials age, usage wears down surfaces, electronics break, new technology becomes important, etc. 3) maintenance and operations (security, janitorial, Metro staff, HVAC, etc) will be much higher at the RTC than an outdoor facility like Government Square. As much as I want the RTC to be used, I really didn't think we should be using it just to use it. If we can pencil out the math to utilize it for things like Intercity travel I'd be all for it. I nor I think Metro with the study they are having done is interested in using the center “just to use it”. There may be some cons to using the RTC but there are certainly some pros too as I have mentioned. I also really like getting rid of the cramped and disjointed government square along 5th street. Anyway as I’ve said I don’t think it’s in the cards anyway. It’s cheaper and easier to just leave everything as is ….. until it’s not (see you in 2040 when we get cost estimates for RTC that’s sat unused and poorly maintained for 4 decades aka a Cincy special LOL). Will be interesting to see what a Government Square renovation will look like as it’s also looking more worn out these days, hopefully the shelters are bigger and a sleek design. Finally let’s also keep in mind this isnt a RTC v. Government Square idea, Metro has said the study will also consider moving ops to a totally new downtown location. Edited October 22, 2024Oct 22 by 646empire
October 22, 2024Oct 22 3 hours ago, 646empire said: (see you in 2040 when we get cost estimates for RTC that’s sat unused and poorly maintained for 4 decades aka a Cincy special LOL) I think this is a common misconception. The RTC is still utilized and maintained, just not regularly used for public transit. It is maintained by Metro and is utilized by touring acts at the arena / GABP / Paycor Stadium. It is used, just not under heavy use. Once again, the cost adjusted to inflation to renovate it will likely be pretty similar whether we do it now, or do it in 2040. Not using it for daily public transit doesn't mean it's falling apart in the meantime.
October 22, 2024Oct 22 39 minutes ago, ryanlammi said: I think this is a common misconception. The RTC is still utilized and maintained, just not regularly used for public transit. It is maintained by Metro and is utilized by touring acts at the arena / GABP / Paycor Stadium. It is used, just not under heavy use. Once again, the cost adjusted to inflation to renovate it will likely be pretty similar whether we do it now, or do it in 2040. Not using it for daily public transit doesn't mean it's falling apart in the meantime. I can tell you with my own 2 eyes it’s not being maintained. Yes Metro may be switching out light bulbs and giving it a sweep but because there is no true daily public use it’s all bare minimum. The entrances along 2nd St are getting beat up and rotting. The glass isn’t even being clean. The tile down the stairwells are falling off the walls and many of the elevators are not working and who knows what structural things underneath. Using the place as a parking lot for concert acts isn’t really using it at all. When you leave a facility in disrepair for so long when you finally do need to use it will naturally cost more to bring it up to date. Construction companies talk about this all the time.
October 23, 2024Oct 23 21 hours ago, 646empire said: A Government Square renovation is going to cost millions. A move to the Riverfront is going to cost millions. It makes no difference. These costs are not the same. There's a huge difference there. That extra money spent on moving to RTC represents a large opportunity cost. 20 hours ago, 646empire said: Im not understanding this point tho and have seen it multiple times. The transit center doesn’t need a ton of access points to make sense. Buses were entering the center from both East and West and that’s enough as demonstrated this past weekend especially when you add in the fact only a small percentage of the BLINK volume of buses and traffic would be using the center during normal days. Many routes will be optimized/adjusted for access to the center if chosen as well. It would also be nice for bus users to be better sheltered in the tunnel than out in the elements like Government Square during winter/rain especially. It takes 12 minutes for the Metro+ route to get from Government Square to RTC. It's about $2 a minute to run Metro. So that's $24 for one single bus, one time, $48 round trip. 365 days that's $17.5k one time a day, roundtrip, every day of the year. Now say do that 50 times a day. That's $876k a year. Now they don't actually gain much ridership from that, since there isn't enough stuff at the Banks to drive a lot of regular, daily ridership, so that means they won't break even. This also means they have to reduce expansion plans for the rest of the network to shift new operators to cover the extended time needed to go from GS to RTC. The scenario doesn't change much at all if they just close GS because all the existing regular routes need to go through OTR and downtown as a key part of their existing ridership. Even the 11 and 33, which come in from the east and west, have to loop through downtown because of their existing ridership. That could change in the future for the 11, once the Walnut Hills transit center is built, but that would immediately get delayed if they are forced to setup in RTC. So no, there isn't any optimization that makes this pencil out positively for the transit authority...and that's because the route to get down requires them to take an inefficient path. They've already cut it out of the BRT plans because it costs too much money to go down there. Better shelter is always ideal but that doesn't mean you close the busiest location in the network for one that is not as useful. Just build better shelters at GS, let alone all over the county. 20 hours ago, 646empire said: Look I don’t actually believe they are going to move operations because I don’t think the gov and businesses down there want the kind of craziness you see around Government Square, from the high school students acting a fool to the homeless and everything else spread across those blocks it’s a mess many days. But I actually feel like using the tunnel could also help keeping things contained and police being better able to keeps a lid on things in a confined environment. You have it backwards. The relocation study is being done because the 4th Street corporations want to close Government Square and just push the issue somewhere else. If push really came to shove, they absolutely would win that political fight. In any case, it's going to show that moving it to RTC will cost a ton of money, and kill ridership. There's no other location in downtown that's currently under public ownership that would be available for a transit center so there's nothing that's going to come out of that. Buying the old Greyhound station is too offset from the core of downtown to be as useful as GS, and would cost a ton to acquire and build. Moving area D might be a useful result of the study but I would not be surprised if it doesn't move yet, given that the long BRT routes could use stations on the N/S streets instead of pulling into GS. 6 hours ago, 646empire said: I can tell you with my own 2 eyes it’s not being maintained. Yes Metro may be switching out light bulbs and giving it a sweep but because there is no true daily public use it’s all bare minimum. The entrances along 2nd St are getting beat up and rotting. The glass isn’t even being clean. The tile down the stairwells are falling off the walls and many of the elevators are not working and who knows what structural things underneath. Using the place as a parking lot for concert acts isn’t really using it at all. When you leave a facility in disrepair for so long when you finally do need to use it will naturally cost more to bring it up to date. Construction companies talk about this all the time. The facility is owned by the City of Cincinnati, not SORTA.
October 23, 2024Oct 23 1 hour ago, Dev said: These costs are not the same. There's a huge difference there. That extra money spent on moving to RTC represents a large opportunity cost. It takes 12 minutes for the Metro+ route to get from Government Square to RTC. It's about $2 a minute to run Metro. So that's $24 for one single bus, one time, $48 round trip. 365 days that's $17.5k one time a day, roundtrip, every day of the year. Now say do that 50 times a day. That's $876k a year. Now they don't actually gain much ridership from that, since there isn't enough stuff at the Banks to drive a lot of regular, daily ridership, so that means they won't break even. This also means they have to reduce expansion plans for the rest of the network to shift new operators to cover the extended time needed to go from GS to RTC. The scenario doesn't change much at all if they just close GS because all the existing regular routes need to go through OTR and downtown as a key part of their existing ridership. Even the 11 and 33, which come in from the east and west, have to loop through downtown because of their existing ridership. That could change in the future for the 11, once the Walnut Hills transit center is built, but that would immediately get delayed if they are forced to setup in RTC. So no, there isn't any optimization that makes this pencil out positively for the transit authority...and that's because the route to get down requires them to take an inefficient path. They've already cut it out of the BRT plans because it costs too much money to go down there. Better shelter is always ideal but that doesn't mean you close the busiest location in the network for one that is not as useful. Just build better shelters at GS, let alone all over the county. You have it backwards. The relocation study is being done because the 4th Street corporations want to close Government Square and just push the issue somewhere else. If push really came to shove, they absolutely would win that political fight. In any case, it's going to show that moving it to RTC will cost a ton of money, and kill ridership. There's no other location in downtown that's currently under public ownership that would be available for a transit center so there's nothing that's going to come out of that. Buying the old Greyhound station is too offset from the core of downtown to be as useful as GS, and would cost a ton to acquire and build. Moving area D might be a useful result of the study but I would not be surprised if it doesn't move yet, given that the long BRT routes could use stations on the N/S streets instead of pulling into GS. The facility is owned by the City of Cincinnati, not SORTA. I never mentioned why the study was ordered so I don’t have anything backwards. I never said Metro owned the RTC. Ryan just mentioned Metro maintains it. Moving to the RTC is going to kill ridership is laughable. The rest is just too much to respond to, we agree to disagree. We shall see what they come up with. Edited October 23, 2024Oct 23 by 646empire
November 4, 2024Nov 4 Just a night pic of the new Moxy Hotel. Looked to be almost ready (maybe a few more months). Edited November 4, 2024Nov 4 by 646empire
November 5, 2024Nov 5 I'm still nervous about cars blocking the streetcar lane on that block, stopping on the tracks to pick up/drop off hotel guests. They better have very good signage or someone out there directing people to the vehicular entrance on the side.
November 8, 2024Nov 8 Downtown Cincinnati's 'iconic' St. Louis Church listed for sale By Brian Planalp – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier Nov 8, 2024 An historic former church in the heart of downtown Cincinnati has been listed for sale for the first time since it was built nearly 100 years ago. The Archdiocese of Cincinnati has enlisted CBRE’s Travis Likes and John Schenk to market the former St. Louis Church building at 29 E. Eighth St., with an asking price of $2 million. MORE
November 12, 2024Nov 12 Historic downtown Cincinnati building listed for sale By Brian Planalp – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier Nov 12, 2024 Updated Nov 12, 2024 8:00am EST A former warehouse on the west side of downtown Cincinnati with adaptive reuse potential is being marketed for sale. The building at 318 W. Third St. hit the market Oct. 9, advertised for adaptive reuse, including multifamily or hospitality. The 34,000-square-foot building, completed in 1935, spans the block between West Third and McFarland streets. The ramp from westbound Fort Washington Way to southbound Interstate 71/75 cuts across the property’s southern extent. The listing, from Cushman & Wakefield’s multifamily advisory group, notes there are “current high-level plans for a boutique hotel.” It calls the property a “prime redevelopment candidate to take advantage of the ongoing momentum” downtown. MORE
November 12, 2024Nov 12 Very interesting proposal given the decade of construction that will fill the views of a potential hotel. I guess it can work if they do a good enough job with insulation
November 12, 2024Nov 12 it's like an appendix. Shame we won't get a 71/75 configuration that might reverse that.
November 13, 2024Nov 13 Cincinnati ranks second in U.S. in new CBRE real estate report By Brian Planalp – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier Nov 13, 2024 Updated Nov 13, 2024 8:53am EST Cincinnati remains among the top markets in the county for office-to-residential conversions, according to a new report from CBRE citing data from the third quarter of 2024. More than 9% of Greater Cincinnati’s total office inventory is either being converted right now or is part of a planned conversion project. That’s more than four times the national rate, according to CBRE, which found 1.7% of total U.S. office inventory is being converted or planned for conversion, most to multifamily apartments. MORE
November 14, 2024Nov 14 Developer to begin $28M Home2 Suites by Hilton hotel project in downtown Cincinnati By Brian Planalp – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier Nov 14, 2024 A groundbreaking for downtown Cincinnati’s next hotel project is imminent, according to the developer behind it. Keystone Hotel Group is building a 109-key Home2 Suites by Hilton at the site of the historic former Chong building at 614 and 616 Race St. Subhas Patel, principal at Keystone, told the Business Courier the project will start in the next 30 to 45 days. MORE
November 14, 2024Nov 14 13 minutes ago, The_Cincinnati_Kid said: Developer to begin $28M Home2 Suites by Hilton hotel project in downtown Cincinnati By Brian Planalp – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier Nov 14, 2024 A groundbreaking for downtown Cincinnati’s next hotel project is imminent, according to the developer behind it. Keystone Hotel Group is building a 109-key Home2 Suites by Hilton at the site of the historic former Chong building at 614 and 616 Race St. Subhas Patel, principal at Keystone, told the Business Courier the project will start in the next 30 to 45 days. MORE Very Nice!
November 14, 2024Nov 14 What's incredible to me is how many floors were lost over the years. Great project for that area of downtown.
November 14, 2024Nov 14 Great news, getting more infill/activation. I call this both because it is adding to the building correct? What is going on directly across the street from there, maybe 609 Race? With the Birkla development at the Terrace Plaza plus this, plus the Nordstrom building, plus Carew, feels like Race is getting connected really well and this whole area will be much more active and vibrant.
November 14, 2024Nov 14 27 minutes ago, IAGuy39 said: Great news, getting more infill/activation. I call this both because it is adding to the building correct? What is going on directly across the street from there, maybe 609 Race? With the Birkla development at the Terrace Plaza plus this, plus the Nordstrom building, plus Carew, feels like Race is getting connected really well and this whole area will be much more active and vibrant. Do you mean Shillito's building and not Nordstrom?
November 14, 2024Nov 14 11 minutes ago, savadams13 said: Do you mean Shillito's building and not Nordstrom? Was the Shillito's building already re-developed? I meant just in regards going from that corner of 7th and Race and heading South in general to W 4th Street, will be much more connected and vibrant when all this is done.
November 14, 2024Nov 14 11 minutes ago, savadams13 said: Do you mean Shillito's building and not Nordstrom? Nordstrom was on 5th I believe.
November 14, 2024Nov 14 16 minutes ago, anusthemenace said: Nordstrom was on 5th I believe. I don’t think Downtown Cincinnati ever had a Nordstrom. There was a proposed store at the now 84.51 building site but was cancelled. Edited November 14, 2024Nov 14 by 646empire
November 14, 2024Nov 14 20 minutes ago, anusthemenace said: Nordstrom was on 5th I believe. Saks was on 5th, no Nordstrom downtown
November 14, 2024Nov 14 Quote Was the Shillito's building already re-developed? only about half the Shillito's building has been redeveloped, the western portion is still vacant last I heard.
November 14, 2024Nov 14 The western half of Shillito's has been empty and was never part of the first conversion. This is where some of the more industrial parts of the business were located, like the in house display workshop, shipping/receiving ect. https://kzf.com/portfolio/shillitos-west-redevelopment/ The plan opens it up with many more windows vs it's current blocky mass of brick, & hopefully they replace that part of the copped clad awning that was bluntly chopped off many years ago.
November 14, 2024Nov 14 4 hours ago, savadams13 said: Do you mean Shillito's building and not Nordstrom? Sorry just saw here.... Saks builidng redevelopment!!
November 15, 2024Nov 15 On 11/14/2024 at 11:29 AM, ucgrady said: Saks was on 5th, no Nordstrom downtown Ah that's the building I was thinking of.
November 20, 2024Nov 20 Two downtown Cincinnati developments win $6M from state By Brian Planalp – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier Nov 20, 2024 The state of Ohio has awarded two large-scale adaptive reuse projects in Cincinnati a total of $6 million for cleanup and remediation work. The Ohio Department of Development announced the two awards Nov. 19 among the latest round of grants from Ohio’s Brownfield Remediation Program. First National Bank The redevelopment of the First National Bank building at the southeast corner of Fourth and Walnut streets downtown received $4.9 million for asbestos removal and demolition. ... Shillito’s West A project to remediate the Shillito’s West building downtown received $1.06 million from the brownfield program. The project will complete asbestos abatement, which commenced in 2022 thanks to a separate $900,000 grant from the same brownfield program. MORE
November 20, 2024Nov 20 7 minutes ago, The_Cincinnati_Kid said: Two downtown Cincinnati developments win $6M from state By Brian Planalp – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier Nov 20, 2024 The state of Ohio has awarded two large-scale adaptive reuse projects in Cincinnati a total of $6 million for cleanup and remediation work. The Ohio Department of Development announced the two awards Nov. 19 among the latest round of grants from Ohio’s Brownfield Remediation Program. First National Bank The redevelopment of the First National Bank building at the southeast corner of Fourth and Walnut streets downtown received $4.9 million for asbestos removal and demolition. ... Shillito’s West A project to remediate the Shillito’s West building downtown received $1.06 million from the brownfield program. The project will complete asbestos abatement, which commenced in 2022 thanks to a separate $900,000 grant from the same brownfield program. MORE Real question remains if Newcrest Image will actually do anything with 4th and Walnut or just sit on the grant money again and let the building deteriorate...
November 20, 2024Nov 20 On 11/14/2024 at 3:26 PM, SleepyLeroy said: The western half of Shillito's has been empty and was never part of the first conversion. This is where some of the more industrial parts of the business were located, like the in house display workshop, shipping/receiving ect. https://kzf.com/portfolio/shillitos-west-redevelopment/ The plan opens it up with many more windows vs it's current blocky mass of brick, & hopefully they replace that part of the copped clad awning that was bluntly chopped off many years ago. Thanks for this! I wonder if this is being pursued still?
November 20, 2024Nov 20 3 hours ago, IAGuy39 said: Thanks for this! I wonder if this is being pursued still? I thought I heard it got Historic Credits or some kind of funding semi-recently that bumped it back into the news.
November 21, 2024Nov 21 7 hours ago, SleepyLeroy said: I thought I heard it got Historic Credits or some kind of funding semi-recently that bumped it back into the news. Yes and timing too someone posted right after I saw your note that they received more funding for brownfield redevelopment from the state.
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