Sometime midcentury it will be more or less urbanized.  I think that the AK Steel Plant and the prison will work as breaks, as they are undesirable uses which could mean subivisions around them wouldnt be too popular...the steel mill maybe worse due to the occasional smell from the coke ovens.  The prison is more 'psychological' as a barrier, though it does own a large tract of farmland as a prison farm.

 

What the place will look like is more a patchwork of subdivisions, strip centers, and open land...urbanization doesnt work as a solid front or wave, more as a leapfrog thing.

 

 

I'm not sure that I agree with Jeff about Monroe being the cutoff point for Dayton/Cincinnati influence. Growing up in Franklin/Middletown, I think the general consensus was both were somewhat equal, but Cincy clearly dominating. Springboro/73 is where I've always placed the divide.

Do we have a thread on the whole Cincinnati-Dayton thing?  It could make for an interesting discussion on topics like the last few posts about where the dividing line is.

If it's 25 or higher, they are automatically combined; if it's between 15 and 25, they are combined if local opinion favors it.

 

In 2000, the measure between the Dayton and Cincinnati MSAs was about 9.  I suppose by 2010 it could be up to 15, paving the way for the Southwest Ohio CSA of Doom.

 

Any idea what Detoledo is at?? I don't think it's quite as much as Cinday, but it seems there is a good amount of commuting, though it's split between Ann Arbor and Detroit.

I added up the numbers for the Detroit and Toledo MSAs... I don't know the area, of course, but the result was a lot smaller than I expected.  That employment interchange thingy is only around 1.4.  3,003 workers (around 1%) went from the Toledo MSA to the Detroit MSA, and 1,302 workers (.4%) working in the Toledo MSA came from the Detroit MSA.

 

Interesting note on Monroe County MI... when it comes to this measure for making CSAs, Monroe County in 2000 had an amazingly equal relationship to the Detroit and Toledo MSAs.  It had 13,599 going to the Detroit MSA and 13,587 going to the Toledo MSA; and it had 5,078 coming from the Detroit MSA and 5,052 coming from the Toledo MSA.  Almost exactly the same on both counts, but I guess the very slight edge to Detroit makes it a part of the Detroit CSA instead of Toledo.

 

If we pretend for a moment that Monroe County is part of the Detroit MSA, that number for Toledo would rise from 1.4 to around 7.  Adding in Ann Arbor would bring it up a little bit, but not much (I didn't actually do the calculations).

I doesn't surprise me that the Detroit/Toledo interchange is so low.  They aren't all that close, really.