April 21, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: I think that speaks more to the laziness of developers as well. You can develop entire megablocks without it looking that way but they don't. And commissions haven't been super great about pushing hard for that. Perhaps, but it doesn't make financial sense to build 3 or 4 separate buildings. You'll get one building with several different facades like The Nicholas on High St. The richest urban character, in my opinion, is different developers with different architects building buildings whose floor plates do not line up.
April 21, 20223 yr The Nicholas was also really lazy. It's still monolithic and didn't play enough with scale, set backs and designs to truly be effective in their attempt to 'break it up' We have seen 2 proposals that come to mind that would probably fit the bill but neither came to fruition in favor of monolithic architecture. Adjustments like the Nicholas tried or the updates to the King and High Proposal aren't enough IMO if you're trying to play with that scaling to get the feel that I agree with you on. I'm just less worried about floor plates lining up. The IBEW proposal and Summit and 5th from way back when offered that. And this is honestly the type scale and intent that should have replaced the Giant Eagle in German Village (not necessarily 15 stories like IBEW but I wouldn't have opposed it lol) Edited April 21, 20223 yr by DTCL11
April 22, 20223 yr 52 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: The Nicholas was also really lazy. It's still monolithic and didn't play enough with scale, set backs and designs to truly be effective in their attempt to 'break it up' We have seen 2 proposals that come to mind that would probably fit the bill but neither came to fruition in favor of monolithic architecture. Adjustments like the Nicholas tried or the updates to the King and High Proposal aren't enough IMO if you're trying to play with that scaling to get the feel that I agree with you on. I'm just less worried about floor plates lining up. The IBEW proposal and Summit and 5th from way back when offered that. And this is honestly the type scale and intent that should have replaced the Giant Eagle in German Village (not necessarily 15 stories like IBEW but I wouldn't have opposed it lol) Damnit that Summit and 5th rendering is so good. The end product they went with looks terrible.
April 22, 20223 yr 13 hours ago, jonoh81 said: The City created some precedent by allowing the Main Bar to be demolished for a surface lot without any development plan in place. Their inconsistency is a problem. Wasn't part of the argument for demolishing Main Bar that it was structurally compromised? I'm certainly not supportive of demolishing buildings without planned replacements, but from a precedent perspective these seem to be different situations.
April 22, 20223 yr 48 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: Wasn't part of the argument for demolishing Main Bar that it was structurally compromised? I'm certainly not supportive of demolishing buildings without planned replacements, but from a precedent perspective these seem to be different situations. Doesn't that kind of seem like the go to for demolitions now..."structurally compromised/unsafe/unstable"? And if they actually are it is usually absent owners who let the buildings sit vacant and deteriorate anyways-a sort of planned pre-destruction. Back to the Pizzuti project, they should get a legal agreement with the developer to build within a certain time, or no demolition for a parking lot. Not downtown.
April 22, 20223 yr 11 hours ago, VintageLife said: Damnit that Summit and 5th rendering is so good. The end product they went with looks terrible. It really was great and it should be used as a standard of what developers should aspire to when they build these infill projects.
April 22, 20223 yr 19 hours ago, DTCL11 said: I am BEGGING a developer to put something like this on fourth by Pins. I’m convinced Pins, wolfsridge, Jackie o’s, the proximity to gay st, and that new Kee event space (has that even started yet?) makes that massive parking lot one of the most important developments were waiting on. I’d LOVE to see something like this. Edited April 22, 20223 yr by smjjms spelling
April 22, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, cbussoccer said: Wasn't part of the argument for demolishing Main Bar that it was structurally compromised? I'm certainly not supportive of demolishing buildings without planned replacements, but from a precedent perspective these seem to be different situations. Yeah, but that's always one of the argument for a demolition, whether it's really true or not.
April 22, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, jonoh81 said: Yeah, but that's always one of the argument for a demolition, whether it's really true or not. Right, but they at least made the argument. They got a structural engineer or architect or whatever to write a report about how far gone the structure was. It doesn't seem the same argument is being made here, so I wouldn't really say the precedent was set for someone to just demolish a structure willy-nilly without an approved replacement. I know I'm kind of splitting hairs here, but I do think it's an important distinction for us to consider.
April 22, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: Right, but they at least made the argument. They got a structural engineer or architect or whatever to write a report about how far gone the structure was. It doesn't seem the same argument is being made here, so I wouldn't really say the precedent was set for someone to just demolish a structure willy-nilly without an approved replacement. I know I'm kind of splitting hairs here, but I do think it's an important distinction for us to consider. Yup. Of note, that argument was neither made here nor with the vacant office building on the NW corner of Broad and Grant. The city denied the request to demo the office building, citing the need for a replacement plan. So it will be interesting to see what they do with this new request. What sets Pizzuti apart is they have presented a replacement plan, although my personal hope is that the city wait to approve demo until Pizzuti is further along in the dev process for the site.
April 22, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, cbussoccer said: Right, but they at least made the argument. They got a structural engineer or architect or whatever to write a report about how far gone the structure was. It doesn't seem the same argument is being made here, so I wouldn't really say the precedent was set for someone to just demolish a structure willy-nilly without an approved replacement. I know I'm kind of splitting hairs here, but I do think it's an important distinction for us to consider. Maybe, but we might be giving them too much credit. After all, aren't they the same people who didn't bother to make sure developers built what they were actually proposing with the materials they were supposed to use? Or how they've repeatedly ignored their own development recommendations when it came to High Street? They've been less than stellar at consistently pushing better urbanity Downtown. Edited April 22, 20223 yr by jonoh81
April 23, 20223 yr 17 hours ago, jonoh81 said: Maybe, but we might be giving them too much credit. After all, aren't they the same people who didn't bother to make sure developers built what they were actually proposing with the materials they were supposed to use? Or how they've repeatedly ignored their own development recommendations when it came to High Street? They've been less than stellar at consistently pushing better urbanity Downtown. I’m not giving anyone credit. I’m simply pointing out the distinction in the two situations.
April 23, 20223 yr Another increased density project, similar to the one @jonoh81 posted (and also very close in proximity to it) was also proposed to the commission. Sounds like this one would add 24 more units to 602 E Town and renovate the 13 that are already there: “The applicant is proposing to construct a 3-story, 24 unit residential building. This new construction will be situated behind an existing 2-story, 13 unit, residential building constructed in 1932. The two buildings will not be connected, and there will be 43 parking spaces provided. Materials will largely consist of fiber cement lap siding, brick, and metal paneling. Windows will be the Universal 700 system approved by the HRC. A variance is also being requested to section 3312.25, to reduce the required maneuvering to enter the new spaces, from the required 20’ to 17’. This proposal lies within the East Town Street Historic District.” https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fcolumbusohdev.box.com%2Fs%2Fzgmlk42mn980mb0jqxm2sd6t1jv0zzz8/view/944306208492
April 25, 20223 yr So this is sponsored content from JLL on CBF and doesn’t offer a ton of new information; however, I still find it interesting they’re now choosing to promote the Warehouse District. Plus, some of the history is interesting too. Fingers crossed we start to see some proposals to fill in the acres of parking lots this year. Why the Warehouse District is Columbus’ next hot spot “Two decades after the city set its redevelopment sights on turning the Warehouse District into a mixed-use community, that vision is taking shape. One of the most recent projects is developed by Hackman Capital Partners, which has renovated 11 historic buildings, creating 412,191 square feet of office space across nearly four acres. The area also has added new restaurants, apartment buildings and entertainment venues. The project has adjusted since the pandemic, said Davis, who serves as the leasing broker for Hackman Capital properties. The pause in business interest in new office space prompted the team to focus on an entertainment venue called The Kee. There, New York-based Center Square is planning a blend of community center activities, such as concerts, fitness classes and art exhibits, along with a bar and restaurant scheduled to open this September. The transformation of the Warehouse District is still a work in progress. Davis said more amenities are in the works, as are plans for new construction and streetscape improvements. “Fifty to 100 years from now, I hope people say we didn’t just put new paint on an old building,” he said. “We took that history and extracted it out into the environment, not just to the existing assets but to the new projects that we come up with as well. We didn’t lose sight of what that district was and why it was created to begin with.”’ https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/04/25/the-warehouse-district-is-columbus-next-hot-spot.html
April 26, 20223 yr Looks like the Downtown Commission is following recent precedent and pushing back against demolition without a more firm replacement plan in place. I believe this is the right decision. Pizzuti says they will be back with more detailed plans in the future. Latest phase of Library Park hits snag at Downtown Commission “The Downtown Commission reviewed the new building on a conceptual basis Tuesday, with commissioners raising concerns about approving demolition of the existing building with only a conceptual plan available for the replacement building. Pizzuti plans to replace the old apartment building with a temporary parking lot for up to two years before pursuing the project. "I would have to see the plan developed more before approving the demolition," Commissioner Jana Maniace said. Jon Riewald, vice president of development for Pizzuti, said the developer recently acquired the property and that the vacant apartment building is functionally obsolete. Columbus Landmarks' Becky West who spoke at the commission meeting, said the apartment building be a good candidate for adaptive reuse and could qualify for state Historic Tax Credits.” https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/04/26/library-park-iv.html However, the Downtown Commission did approve the 24-unit apartment building on E Town. New apartments to rise in the Discovery District “The Downtown Commission Tuesday approved plans for a 24-unit, three-story apartment building at 602. E. Town St., with one non-binding recommendation: the site's owner needs to talk to its neighbors. The plans were presented by Shremshock Architects, who is working with applicant and property owner Joe Collins Street LLC. The Historic Resources Commission approved the project earlier this month. The project still needs to be approved by Columbus City Council. The new multifamily building would be built on the site of an old carriage house. That now-demolished building is thought to have been part of the home and residence of James Kilbourne and the Kilbourne & Jones Hardware Co., according to the Columbus Metropolitan Library. The carriage house was torn down a few years ago, according to the commission. https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/04/26/602-town.html
April 27, 20223 yr Downtown Commission: Oak Street Demo Denied, New Apartments Approved A request from the Pizzuti Companies to demolish a small apartment complex was denied by the Downtown Commission yesterday. The demolition request is part of a long-term plan to build a seven-story, 117-unit building on the site that would be marketed as the fourth phase of the developer’s Library Park project. Located at the northwest corner of Oak and South Ninth Streets, the two-story building and adjacent parking lot were bought by the company in March for $1.1 million, according to the Franklin County Auditor’s website. Several commissioners pointed out that group’s guidelines discourage approving any demolition without seeing – and approving a certificate of appropriateness for – a detailed proposal for what will replace the building. More below: https://columbusunderground.com/downtown-commission-oak-street-demo-denied-new-apartments-approved-bw1/ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 11, 20223 yr Pizzuti Cos.' latest downtown development wrapping up “Pizzuti Cos.' latest downtown project is wrapping up and tenants are moving in. The company started leasing at the beginning of this year for the third phase of Library Park. Move-ins started in April. The building is about 30% leased, said Jon Riewald, vice president of development for the developer. "We've seen the downtown submarket bounce back," Riewald said. "People are coming back. The downtown is now filling in." The third phase of Library Park is six stories and has 145 units, most of them one bedrooms. This project brings the number of units in the development to 295.” https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/05/11/library-park-third-phase.html
May 11, 20223 yr 55 minutes ago, amped91 said: Pizzuti Cos.' latest downtown development wrapping up “Pizzuti Cos.' latest downtown project is wrapping up and tenants are moving in. The company started leasing at the beginning of this year for the third phase of Library Park. Move-ins started in April. The building is about 30% leased, said Jon Riewald, vice president of development for the developer. "We've seen the downtown submarket bounce back," Riewald said. "People are coming back. The downtown is now filling in." The third phase of Library Park is six stories and has 145 units, most of them one bedrooms. This project brings the number of units in the development to 295.” https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/05/11/library-park-third-phase.html This photo confused the hell out of me. I thought that yellow-ish glass was the bar top and those stools were like 1ft tall. Now I see that it's a glass roof over the bar haha.
May 11, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, TIm said: This photo confused the hell out of me. I thought that yellow-ish glass was the bar top and those stools were like 1ft tall. Now I see that it's a glass roof over the bar haha. "What is this? A bar stool for ants?!"
May 15, 20223 yr Elevator shafts going up at the E Broad tower: Work is progressing pretty quickly now on the Topiary Park apartment rebuild:
May 18, 20223 yr Sorry about the power lines, snagged a few photos of Vera on Broad this morning. Edited May 18, 20223 yr by VintageLife
May 18, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, VintageLife said: Sorry about the power lines, snagged a few photos of Vera on Broad this morning. There was something about this one's renderings that made it seem much more squat. It has a lot more presence in reality, thankfully. Some very welcome density. Let's build one of these on every surface parking lot behind every '50s era office building along Broad, ok?
May 18, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, jebleprls22 said: There was something about this one's renderings that made it seem much more squat. It has a lot more presence in reality, thankfully. Some very welcome density. Let's build one of these on every surface parking lot behind every '50s era office building along Broad, ok? Actually, I meant the all of the '50s era office buildings along State and Town Streets
May 18, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, jebleprls22 said: Actually, I meant the all of the '50s era office buildings along State and Town Streets My lord! There is literally a parking garage right there! Why do we need all this surface parking?!
May 18, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, TIm said: My lord! There is literally a parking garage right there! Why do we need all this surface parking?! It’s hard to walk 4 blocks I guess. Ha
May 18, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, VintageLife said: It’s hard to walk 4 blocks I guess. Ha 1 hour ago, TIm said: My lord! There is literally a parking garage right there! Why do we need all this surface parking?! well the one just to the north of the pic is for office workers(buildings that have no parking(Rhodes Tower, etc.)and I think the ones at the left and bottom are for the hospital? Anyway that area is an ugly disgrace and I detest that crapitechture they erected after the Market/Mohawk "revitalization"(demolitions). Destroy it all, put one central parking garage hidden in the middle/partly underground with an activated/green rooftop, and build everything up around it to at least 10-12 floors and leave a few nooks and crannies for retail/parklets. We need a new billionaire "benefactor" for the city!(Wexner has not come through enough is gonna be gone soon)to come through with stuff like this. They can name it all after them lol. hmmmm....who could we attract?
May 18, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, jebleprls22 said: There was something about this one's renderings that made it seem much more squat. It has a lot more presence in reality, thankfully. Some very welcome density. Let's build one of these on every surface parking lot behind every '50s era office building along Broad, ok? I love it. Some of the streets downtown are so miserable to walk due to the heat/lack of shade/no where to stop in—just endless parking lots.
May 18, 20223 yr If you add together all of the square footage of those couple of small office buildings, I'm sure it wouldn't even fill one significantly empty office tower closer to the core...
May 19, 20223 yr 23 hours ago, jebleprls22 said: Actually, I meant the all of the '50s era office buildings along State and Town Streets The Xander took care of some of the parking lots.
May 19, 20223 yr 56 minutes ago, Pablo said: The Xander took care of some of the parking lots. 56 minutes ago, Pablo said: Yep.
May 20, 20223 yr On 12/9/2021 at 3:42 PM, Columbo said: Jaycees look to add three affordable housing buildings Downtown The North Columbus Jaycees have proposed adding three apartment buildings and a training center next to the organization's existing apartment building on East Rich Street Downtown that would add 138 affordable apartments to the core of the city. The project would include two five-story buildings fronting East Main Street, each of them containing 60 apartments. In addition, the project calls for a five-story building immediately west of the existing Jaycees Arms residence, to contain a training center for "well-known existing culinary programs," according to a plan presented to the city. On top of the two-story training center would be three floors of housing containing 18 apartments. The proposal did not identify the proposed operator of the culinary center because details are still being worked out. The three new buildings would be built on the same block as the existing 11-story Jaycee Arms, which opened in 1971 and includes 220 low-income senior apartments. MORE: https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2021/12/09/jaycees-propose-affordable-housing-complex-main-street-downtown/6445488001/ This proposal is back in front of the Downtown Commission, this time seeking approval. Current plan is to split into two phases, with the first phase comprising two 60 unit buildings and the CSCC culinary facility. https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fcolumbusohdev.box.com%2Fs%2F7xlw0lilozok330637o1yhqj0fs1czp1 The elevated walkway from Edwards Co is also back, with some updates, including an entry point from Third. https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2022/05/20/downtown-elevated-walk-would-park-like-path-under-proposal/9835453002/?utm_source=dispatch-DailyBriefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily_briefing&utm_term=list_article_thumb&utm_content=NCOD-OHIO-COLUMBUS-NLETTER65 Not Discovery District, but the 15 story High St tower is back, seeking approval for minor changes, mainly small street level and entrance/exit point changes. Just glad to see more activity on this one. https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fcolumbusohdev.box.com%2Fs%2Fdmr1nrnhbx214qf52d6glo0sml23svyn
May 26, 20223 yr Downtown apartment building combines century-old details with modern design “Work is wrapping up on a new Downtown apartment building with old roots — and a hidden feature. Discovery Park Place apartments is about to open at 530 E. Rich St., with 29 apartments in a new building that sits behind two older homes that have been renovated into four additional apartments. Schiff removed the addition and replaced it with a five-story building that includes 29 apartments along with covered parking, a fitness center and an unusual element: an interior courtyard overlooked by three levels of apartments and exterior "hallways" that provide access to the apartments. "It has a European, New Orleans feel to it," said Todd Schiff.” https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2022/05/26/discovery-park-place-apartments-combine-old-homes-new-building/9913159002/
May 28, 20223 yr New apartments available in Discovery District The Discovery District has another 34 apartments available for lease. The multifamily project at 530 Rich St., called Discovery Park Place, is now leasing 20 one-bedroom apartments and 10 two-story, two-bedroom townhomes. There are also four one-bedroom units in the adjacent two newly renovated historic homes. The back portions of the two homes, which date to 1899 and 1901, were demolished to accommodate the new five-story building behind them. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/05/27/new-discovery-district-apartments-available.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
June 2, 20223 yr A couple guys were working at Jackie Os site. I think this one may take awhile to get finished tbh.
June 19, 20222 yr Looks like work has finally restarted on the renovation of the Standard Building in the Warehouse District. I believe this is supposed to be a mix of office, retail and apartments. It’s been so long, I don’t remember all the details.
June 19, 20222 yr 6 hours ago, amped91 said: Looks like work has finally restarted on the renovation of the Standard Building in the Warehouse District. I believe this is supposed to be a mix of office, retail and apartments. It’s been so long, I don’t remember all the details. I know the lower level will be a wedding venue. Their Instagram posted this rendering a while back. A few of their posts indicate the corridor between this building and the building next door will be turned into a courtyard.
June 20, 20222 yr 22 hours ago, amped91 said: Looks like work has finally restarted on the renovation of the Standard Building in the Warehouse District. I believe this is supposed to be a mix of office, retail and apartments. It’s been so long, I don’t remember all the details. Quite a handsome building hiding under all that veneer!
June 21, 20222 yr On 4/27/2022 at 5:01 PM, ColDayMan said: Downtown Commission: Oak Street Demo Denied, New Apartments Approved A request from the Pizzuti Companies to demolish a small apartment complex was denied by the Downtown Commission yesterday. The demolition request is part of a long-term plan to build a seven-story, 117-unit building on the site that would be marketed as the fourth phase of the developer’s Library Park project. Located at the northwest corner of Oak and South Ninth Streets, the two-story building and adjacent parking lot were bought by the company in March for $1.1 million, according to the Franklin County Auditor’s website. Several commissioners pointed out that group’s guidelines discourage approving any demolition without seeing – and approving a certificate of appropriateness for – a detailed proposal for what will replace the building. More below: https://columbusunderground.com/downtown-commission-oak-street-demo-denied-new-apartments-approved-bw1/ Here is a new rendering for a 6 story at the corner of oak and 9th. Seems like it was dropped from 7, which makes no sense, but looks decent.
June 21, 20222 yr ^Doesn’t look bad, seems to be in keeping with the rest of LP. Although the other day I finally drove by the brick apartments this is supposed to replace, and now I wish they could rehab the old apartments and put this on one of the dozen surface lots that are nearby.
June 21, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, VintageLife said: Here is a new rendering for a 6 story at the corner of oak and 9th. Seems like it was dropped from 7, which makes no sense, but looks decent. Is that person on the 4th floor in the rendering fully nude?!
June 21, 20222 yr Let them live!!! "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
June 22, 20222 yr 17 hours ago, TIm said: Is that person on the 4th floor in the rendering fully nude?! It's clearly that or a Home Alone Christmas party. "Columbus Library, come for the books, stay for the burlesque and buffet"
June 22, 20222 yr 2 hours ago, CbusOrBust said: Things seem to be moving at a nice pace now at Jackie O's Good we need this up and running before it gets cold again!
July 5, 20222 yr Just outside of the Discovery District, but close enough, I guess: Volunteers of America opening residential treatment facility near Topiary Park “Volunteers of America Ohio & Indiana will redevelop a downtown Columbus building to house a new, certified residential substance use disorder treatment facility for women with children. The facility at 81 S. 5th St. is scheduled to open late 2023 and will be equipped to provide residential treatment for up to 26 women who can continue to live with their children while receiving services. Jennifer Martinez, senior director of behavioral health for VOA in Ohio, said renovations on the building will start in the next three months and cost about $1.6 million. The Family Focused Recovery substance abuse program will provide addiction treatment and recovery support services for pregnant and postpartum women with substance use disorders. Martinez said the organization plans to serve 100 to 120 women a year.” https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/07/05/volunteers-of-america-new-building.html
July 8, 20222 yr Any idea why the library is renovating the plaza/park space that they added when they completed their renovation a few years back? Are they expanding parking underground or something? Construction update via the latest CU roundup at https://columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-june-2022-part-2-we1/ We lost lawn and additional plantings and are gaining... concrete?
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