March 9, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, NW24HX said: Do we know how tall Vera is? That's a 5 over 2 (wood over concrete podium) which is likely what I would expect here as well Above that costs go up from requiring all steel or concrete Apparently, Vera is less than 88.5’ tall (which is listed as being at 8 stories, with three levels of parking and five levels of residential on top).
March 9, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, amped91 said: Unfortunately, the prelim site plan doesn’t really reveal much. But it does say the proposed height is 98’, and the architect is NBBJ, who usually does pretty good work. According to the filing there's 120 surface and structured parking spaces. Either those are street side parking or at the bottom of the garage. Structured means the bottom will indeed be probably 2-3 levels (at least) of parking. How many spaces are in 195 E Broad? That has like 4-5 levels of parking I believe (and by the way it's about 2 floors away from reaching final height). 135 units seems like a lot - they must be awfully small unless it has more than 7 floors (including parking). The 98 makes sense because the parking decks don't need to be as tall as regular floors. Though the number may also be accounting for a utility/mechanical floor at the top - though that seems unlikely given the size of the building.
March 9, 20232 yr This place sounds huge, and may finally be ready to open: Downtown Warehouse Transforming to Entertainment & Event Venue “The Kee’s name has a few meanings. It’s part literal, the building borders Mckee Alley, part figurative, as Nestler sees it as “Kee” to activating the surrounding district. Nestler says Hackman Capital has purchased 19 properties in the area and is planning for a broader redevelopment that includes apartments, restaurants, office space and more, and The Kee is right in the center. While Fourth Street is seeing life through established names like Pins Mechanical Co. and Wolf’s Ridge Brewing, and the massive, under-construction Jackie O’s patio, The Kee will pull things a little further east. “We want folks to come back out post-pandemic, and feel like when folks come out, they want to have an experience, whether that’s eating out or playing games or doing something new,” Nestler says. The Kee is aiming for a mid-April opening. While the cafe will be open daily, the entertainment portion of the venue will generally keep evening hours, from 4:30 p.m. – 12 a.m. Wednesday through Sunday.” https://columbusunderground.com/downtown-warehouse-transforming-to-entertainment-event-venue-sp1/
March 9, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, amped91 said: Nestler says Hackman Capital has purchased 19 properties in the area and is planning for a broader redevelopment that includes apartments, restaurants, office space and more, and The Kee is right in the center. Gosh I really hope they do proper downtown development with these properties. Really don’t want them to just throw in a bunch of 5 stories and nothing else.
March 10, 20232 yr I really hope this is a success, if they can get some buzz going and pull the same type of crowd as Pins I think it will be
March 10, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, NW24HX said: I really hope this is a success, if they can get some buzz going and pull the same type of crowd as Pins I think it will be I think it’s great there’s a little entertainment ecosystem starting to form in that area: Pins, Wolf’s Ridge; Slammers, District West, Fomo and Holy Trinity are within walking distance; and soon Jackie O’s and the Kee will join in. Speaking of Jackie O’s, the Insta account for Genesis, the events center taking up the first floor of the Standard building, posted a video today showing some interior for Jackie’s. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CplaUcwDBKA/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
March 10, 20232 yr 6 hours ago, amped91 said: Nestler says Hackman Capital has purchased 19 properties in the area and is planning for a broader redevelopment that includes apartments, restaurants, office space and more, and The Kee is right in the center. I’m drooling
March 10, 20232 yr 37 minutes ago, smjjms said: I’m drooling Like I said earlier, let’s just hope they develop it properly! That area has so much potential to be amazing.
March 10, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, smjjms said: I’m drooling Just for reference, they own pretty much everything in the box below, except for a few random parcels.
March 10, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, amped91 said: Just for reference, they own pretty much everything in the box below, except for a few random parcels. I like that someone else owns the giant parking lot. That way it can be a bit of a diversity design, unless they have plans to buy more. The new proposal on spring is right at the bottom south east corner of that blue box, so that is even better. I’m excited for this area.
March 10, 20232 yr 8 hours ago, VintageLife said: I like that someone else owns the giant parking lot. That way it can be a bit of a diversity design, unless they have plans to buy more. The new proposal on spring is right at the bottom south east corner of that blue box, so that is even better. I’m excited for this area. Tbh, I’d always assumed Hackman had owned those huge lots on 4th as well until I looked it up. I agree it’s probably a good thing someone else owns them, though. Hopefully it leads to something good eventually going there. Plus, Hackman already owns five huge parking areas and three smaller ones, that hopefully all could be filled with something better in the near future. I guess they also own the Ohio Welding Co building on Spring, which is right next to the seven story proposal. I looked at their website, which shows some conceptual renderings of what a future tenant could do with the building, but I also wouldn’t be upset if it gets the wrecking ball and the property gets completely redeveloped.
March 10, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, amped91 said: Tbh, I’d always assumed Hackman had owned those huge lots on 4th as well until I looked it up. I agree it’s probably a good thing someone else owns them, though. Hopefully it leads to something good eventually going there. Plus, Hackman already owns five huge parking areas and three smaller ones, that hopefully all could be filled with something better in the near future. I guess they also own the Ohio Welding Co building on Spring, which is right next to the seven story proposal. I looked at their website, which shows some conceptual renderings of what a future tenant could do with the building, but I also wouldn’t be upset if it gets the wrecking ball and the property gets completely redeveloped. I don’t mind some 1 stories remaining, but agree, this would probably be better as redevelopment. This area should be insanely dense and the more buildings we can get, the better.
March 10, 20232 yr 11 hours ago, amped91 said: Just for reference, they own pretty much everything in the box below, except for a few random parcels. All I ask is for a proposal of the lots directly behind Ebb & Float. They’re my least favorite lots downtown by a long shot.
March 10, 20232 yr 20 hours ago, amped91 said: I think it’s great there’s a little entertainment ecosystem starting to form in that area: Pins, Wolf’s Ridge; Slammers, District West, Fomo and Holy Trinity are within walking distance; and soon Jackie O’s and the Kee will join in. Speaking of Jackie O’s, the Insta account for Genesis, the events center taking up the first floor of the Standard building, posted a video today showing some interior for Jackie’s. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CplaUcwDBKA/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Genesis is opening in April it seems. I guess the Standard building is almost done.
March 14, 20232 yr Was there any announcement as to why the Spring and 4th dog park was dismantled a few weeks ago? Curious if that's getting revamped or repurposed.
March 14, 20232 yr On 3/10/2023 at 8:41 AM, amped91 said: Tbh, I’d always assumed Hackman had owned those huge lots on 4th as well until I looked it up. I agree it’s probably a good thing someone else owns them, though. Hopefully it leads to something good eventually going there. Plus, Hackman already owns five huge parking areas and three smaller ones, that hopefully all could be filled with something better in the near future. I guess they also own the Ohio Welding Co building on Spring, which is right next to the seven story proposal. I looked at their website, which shows some conceptual renderings of what a future tenant could do with the building, but I also wouldn’t be upset if it gets the wrecking ball and the property gets completely redeveloped. I don't know, I'm getting more Franklinton vibes from this rather than Downtown.
March 14, 20232 yr Sorry it's a little distant, but here's progress of the new Edwards Tower on Broad!
March 14, 20232 yr 38 minutes ago, PrestoKinetic said: I don't know, I'm getting more Franklinton vibes from this rather than Downtown. I almost think the whole Warehouse District could have somewhat of a Franklinton-esque vibe, if done right.
March 14, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, PrestoKinetic said: Sorry it's a little distant, but here's progress of the new Edwards Tower on Broad! I almost prefer it looking like that compared to the renderings of the finished product.
March 14, 20232 yr 13 minutes ago, CMHOhio said: I almost prefer it looking like that compared to the renderings of the finished product. I hate how much I agree. The blue is at least interesting and a nice bold pop from the beige and gray.
March 14, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, DevolsDance said: I hate how much I agree. The blue is at least interesting and a nice bold pop from the beige and gray. Can agree there! Would've loved to see a "green wall" like over at Gravity and/or some sort of digital billboard like in the Millennial Tower.
March 14, 20232 yr 37 minutes ago, DevolsDance said: The blue is at least interesting and a nice bold pop from the beige and gray. I don't know if The Pierce on Oak Street would've liked the competition.
March 14, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, PrestoKinetic said: I don't know if The Pierce on Oak Street would've liked the competition. I still assert that this area of downtown would be interesting if there was a plethora of buildings in various bold colors. The rainbow district or something along those lines.
March 15, 20232 yr 14 hours ago, DTCL11 said: I still assert that this area of downtown would be interesting if there was a plethora of buildings in various bold colors. The rainbow district or something along those lines. Of course! I was only joking 😉
March 15, 20232 yr 19 hours ago, DevolsDance said: I hate how much I agree. The blue is at least interesting and a nice bold pop from the beige and gray. It stands out so much because we have become conditioned to accept as "normal" the beigeification of our built spaces-whether downtown or in those new planned upscale communities-we have become used to beige and gray, uniformity-imposed by commissions and HOA's who demand a numbing uniformity. At least the planned suburb i grew up in had all sorts of different house designs, colors, heights, etc. These new buildings(residential and commercial) are so monotonously boring and often depressing. And I spoke out against that red building just south of E. Broad and was proven wrong. At least I learned from that.
March 18, 20232 yr Not the best pics, but here’s a few of Jackie O’s. Excited for this to open (also Freedom a la Cart next door is pretty dang good).
March 18, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, FudgeRounds said: Not the best pics, but here’s a few of Jackie O’s. Excited for this to open (also Freedom a la Cart next door is pretty dang good). Freedom a La cart is great, and hopefully they just continue to get more business with more and more residential in the area
March 18, 20232 yr 34 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Freedom a La cart is great, and hopefully they just continue to get more business with more and more residential in the area I love Freedom. I wish I went there more, but it’s kinda like it’s on an island by itself right now, and the one way street is annoying. Fingers crossed it and Jackie O’s get plenty more neighbors soon!
March 20, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, aderwent said: Looks like Hackman wants to demo this 1914 warehouse at 260 Naughten: Wasn't there a redevelopment plan for this building a few years ago? It does look pretty rough on the outside. I can only imagine what kind of structural issues there are, but I would hate to see this building demolished.
March 20, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, aderwent said: Looks like Hackman wants to demo this 1914 warehouse at 260 Naughten: That’s what I was worried about when I saw some storm damage last month. Hopefully the demo is denied unless a replacement is planned.
March 20, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, amped91 said: That’s what I was worried about when I saw some storm damage last month. Hopefully the demo is denied unless a replacement is planned. Maybe they'll start their development plans here, even if that wasn't the original plan? They don't need more parking so I hope a replacement is in hand. It's interesting they're marketing this as the Warehouse District, but their second order of business is demolishing one of them. Speaking of the Warehouse District, maybe this could be its own thread? Especially if they go big like we're all hoping.
March 20, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, aderwent said: Maybe they'll start their development plans here, even if that wasn't the original plan? They don't need more parking so I hope a replacement is in hand. It's interesting they're marketing this as the Warehouse District, but their second order of business is demolishing one of them. Speaking of the Warehouse District, maybe this could be its own thread? Especially if they go big like we're all hoping. Someone had started a thread for it last year, but one of the mods folded it back into this one 😂 I believe this is the proposal that @cbussoccerwas talking about: https://the-cwd.com/260-e-naghten-street/ I really like the look of that. Even if most of the warehouse were demolished and just the front facade were preserved, I think it could look really handsome.
March 20, 20232 yr 28 minutes ago, aderwent said: Looks like Hackman wants to demo this 1914 warehouse at 260 Naughten: Well, looks like I’m sending another Email. I don’t care what developers say, pretty much every building is salvageable. Where did you find this info? Edited March 20, 20232 yr by VintageLife
March 20, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, amped91 said: Someone had started a thread for it last year, but one of the mods folded it back into this one 😂 I believe this is the proposal that @cbussoccerwas talking about: https://the-cwd.com/260-e-naghten-street/ I really like the look of that. Even if most of the warehouse were demolished and just the front facade were preserved, I think it could look really handsome. From the looks of that maybe they're just demolishing the six story portion? I think the four story is the original and the six is from the 60s. I didn't remember that proposal. Thanks!
March 20, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, aderwent said: From the looks of that maybe they're just demolishing the six story portion? I think the four story is the original and the six is from the 60s. I didn't remember that proposal. Thanks! If that is the case, I’m not that upset.
March 20, 20232 yr 14 minutes ago, VintageLife said: If that is the case, I’m not that upset. I hope it is the case. That would mean they're moving forward with that nice proposal.
March 20, 20232 yr 38 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: Wasn't there a redevelopment plan for this building a few years ago? It does look pretty rough on the outside. I can only imagine what kind of structural issues there are, but I would hate to see this building demolished. https://columbusunderground.com/addition-proposed-for-downtown-warehouse-building-bw1/ This one?
March 20, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, VintageLife said: Well, looks like I’m sending another Email. I don’t care what developers say, pretty much every building is salvageable. Where did you find this info? Unfortunately it looks like it'll be the whole structure. Although the auditor's website has been wrong for me before. It certainly looks like two separately constructed sections, but the auditor page lists just one building at 100,575 square feet. The same requested in the demo: You'll notice the emergency hazard notice at the top. It says sections have collapsed and further collapse could be imminent. Probably the storm damage @amped91mentioned. Edited March 20, 20232 yr by aderwent
March 20, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, aderwent said: Unfortunately it looks like it'll be the whole structure. Although the auditor's website has been wrong for me before. It certainly looks like two separately constructed sections, but the auditor page lists just one building at 100,575 square feet. The same requested in the demo: You'll notice the emergency hazard notice at the top. It says sections have collapsed and further collapse could be imminent. Probably the storm damage @amped91mentioned. Well, I guess I will be sending an email again.
March 20, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Well, I guess I will be sending an email again. Who do you email for something like this? I'd like to do the same.
March 20, 20232 yr There's no way the building isn't salvageable. Even if it means standing the exterior up with a steel frame and reconstructing the interior. I dont think we've ever seen it here because the developers are lazy and the standards are low and the commission usually rolls over but there are ways to do this right. Demolition is far from it. Period.
March 20, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, 17thState said: Who do you email for something like this? I'd like to do the same. I start with the downtown commission, [email protected] then I will try to reach out to Ohio history connection, maybe send an email to city council and might email Walker at Columbus underground to see if they would do an article, so word gets out more. I will also send one to Columbus Landmarks. Hopefully this crap wasn’t snuck through the process and already gained approval.
March 21, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, DTCL11 said: There's no way the building isn't salvageable. Even if it means standing the exterior up with a steel frame and reconstructing the interior. I dont think we've ever seen it here because the developers are lazy and the standards are low and the commission usually rolls over but there are ways to do this right. Demolition is far from it. Period. Worst case they can gut the insides and keep the facade. But really it just needs metal rods called "ties" through the building. The brick is basically separating from the structure and needs pulled back. That's where a lot of the structural issues seem to be. The actual superstructure should be sound.
March 21, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, VintageLife said: I start with the downtown commission, [email protected] then I will try to reach out to Ohio history connection, maybe send an email to city council and might email Walker at Columbus underground to see if they would do an article, so word gets out more. I will also send one to Columbus Landmarks. Hopefully this crap wasn’t snuck through the process and already gained approval. Thanks for the email! Will send one in as well. Always loved this building.
March 21, 20232 yr My letter to the commission. Do you think this covers it all? Edited March 21, 20232 yr by columbus17
March 21, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, columbus17 said: My letter to the commission. Do you think this covers it all? Way better than what mine will be ha
March 21, 20232 yr 17 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Way better than what mine will be ha I may be young but that doesn't mean I can't care about the past too!
March 21, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, columbus17 said: I may be young but that doesn't mean I can't care about the past too! I sent one to Columbus Landmark, in hopes they can get the word out better.
March 21, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, VintageLife said: I sent one to Columbus Landmark, in hopes they can get the word out better. I just sent a message to Walker Evans. Now we wait and see.
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