April 6, 20232 yr On 4/4/2023 at 9:03 PM, GCrites80s said: I'm suspecting this is why the Athenaeum is starting to get a lot more shows. The Bluestone, also downtown, seems to bring in some decently well known artist, not sure of capacity, but it seems like a decent size. Edit: it has a capacity of 1000 Edited April 6, 20232 yr by VintageLife
April 6, 20232 yr 39 minutes ago, 17thState said: They do shows at the Athenaeum? I'm surprised, that place has the absolute worst acoustics, every wedding I've been to there it sounds like the speeches and the music are coming through a broken drive-thru speaker unless you're directly in front of the sound equipment. Are you talking about the room with the stadium seats or another room? I think there are multiple halls in there. The big Beatles cover band that plays every year around New Year's sounded fine.
April 6, 20232 yr 10 hours ago, VintageLife said: The Bluestone, also downtown, seems to bring in some decently well known artist, not sure of capacity, but it seems like a decent size. Edit: it has a capacity of 1000 Perfect example of a diverse venue. It's pretty much a premier venue in the city for dubstep, country music and weddings. Such a weird combo of offerings and I think it's great. Not to mention the place is just cool as hell being converted into a venue from an old church which gives it even more points in my book. The Bluestone is what others should be looking at as an example when they are considering opening a new event venue.
April 6, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, TIm said: Perfect example of a diverse venue. It's pretty much a premier venue in the city for dubstep, country music and weddings. Such a weird combo of offerings and I think it's great. Not to mention the place is just cool as hell being converted into a venue from an old church which gives it even more points in my book. The Bluestone is what others should be looking at as an example when they are considering opening a new event venue. It does look really nice. It appears they also have some alternative music coming up, so seems like it covers everything. I didn’t even know it was converted and just randomly saw a show ad somewhere for it. it gives me the same type of feel as a venue in Toledo that I used to go to when growing up. It was called headliners and it had really big shows, but also had a small stage venue space. They had all kinds of music and genre didn’t matter.
April 6, 20232 yr Just now, VintageLife said: It does look really nice. It appears they also have some alternative music coming up, so seems like it covers everything. I didn’t even know it was converted and just randomly saw a show ad somewhere for it. it gives me the same type of feel as a venue in Toledo that I used to go to when growing up. It was called headliners and it had really big shows, but also had a small stage venue space. They had all kinds of music and genre didn’t matter. Just great to see a space be used for something so diverse and do so well. They host an event for everyone it seems. Plus, they're clearly killing it and have a pretty healthy looking calendar for the upcoming months and that obviously isn't even accounting for private events.
April 6, 20232 yr Hey I'm going to walk around today and take pictures of the projects going on in the area! Let me know what you want to see - I'm probably going to leave in the next 2-3 hours.
April 6, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, columbus17 said: Hey I'm going to walk around today and take pictures of the projects going on in the area! Let me know what you want to see - I'm probably going to leave in the next 2-3 hours. Everything. If you go to third floor of the main library, you can get a pretty cool view of Topiary Park and the surrounding projects.
April 6, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, cbussoccer said: Everything. If you go to third floor of the main library, you can get a pretty cool view of Topiary Park and the surrounding projects. Never been there before - I'll try that! I'm only down the street at Stauf's knocking out some work.
April 6, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, columbus17 said: Never been there before - I'll try that! I'm only down the street at Stauf's knocking out some work. Go all the way to the top floor and then walk to the back of the building. There are giant floor to ceiling windows looking out over the park. I'm sure there are other cool views of downtown if you explore the third floor as well. You could also go to the top of the floor of the Grant Hospital Orange Garage at 393 E Town. It would give you some pretty good views of a lot of different projects. You can just walk right into the main lobby of the garage and take the elevator to the top.
April 6, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: Go all the way to the top floor and then walk to the back of the building. There are giant floor to ceiling windows looking out over the park. I'm sure there are other cool views of downtown if you explore the third floor as well. You could also go to the top of the floor of the Grant Hospital Orange Garage at 393 E Town. It would give you some pretty good views of a lot of different projects. You can just walk right into the main lobby of the garage and take the elevator to the top. This is going to be quite the adventure! I'm also going to head down Broad to look at the PNC plaza progress. I was going to swing by Madison's but someone just posted that not too long ago so I assume much hasn't changed.
April 6, 20232 yr Topiary Park Apartments and the turret has all its shingles! Also nabbed some pics of the Vera which looks almost complete!
April 6, 20232 yr Just now, cbussoccer said: Did you...uhh...get on the roof of the library? Nope! Front windows were amazing! I am absolutely terrified of heights and rode the elevator up to the third floor
April 6, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, columbus17 said: Nope! Front windows were amazing! I am absolutely terrified of heights and rode the elevator up to the third floor Oh I see the light reflection on the window now, lol, at first look it didn't seem like there was a window in front of you.
April 6, 20232 yr 6 hours ago, columbus17 said: Topiary Park Apartments and the turret has all its shingles! Also nabbed some pics of the Vera which looks almost complete! Bye-bye parking lots! Thanks so much for this beautiful photo update.
April 6, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, CMHOhio said: Bye-bye parking lots! Thanks so much for this beautiful photo update. My pleasure! If Tuesday proves nice (not too terribly hot) I'll run around a different part of town and nab more photos!
April 7, 20232 yr 18 hours ago, columbus17 said: Topiary Park Apartments and the turret has all its shingles! Also nabbed some pics of the Vera which looks almost complete! Thanks for the pics. They really look to have done a good job with Topiary Park-such a good idea for that old parking strip. I would imagine they would be really popular. This area is looking like a big success to me and I am glad to see it.
April 7, 20232 yr 13 hours ago, columbus17 said: My pleasure! If Tuesday proves nice (not too terribly hot) I'll run around a different part of town and nab more photos! Hold on a second.... we can't be complaining or worrying about it being too hot yet! It was just too cold like last week!
April 7, 20232 yr Historic Downtown Warehouse Building Facing Possible Demolition An emergency hazard order has been issued by the city for a pair of connected buildings at the corner of Neilston and Naghten Streets Downtown. The buildings – one four stories tall and the other six – contain about 100,000 square feet of space and are over a century old. The emergency order means that the buildings need to either be demolished or repaired immediately. “Advanced deterioration has occurred in the structure,” said Anthony Celebrezze, Deputy Director of the city’s Department of Building and Zoning Services. “The owners are to remediate the threat immediately. Once they pay for their permits they can move forward with a demolition of the structure without any further review.” The city arrived at that determination after bringing in an independent structural engineer to examine the buildings last week. Neilston Street between Naghten and Mt Vernon Avenue was closed off earlier this winter after bricks from the parapet of the six-story building fell onto the street. More below: https://columbusunderground.com/historic-downtown-warehouse-building-facing-demolition-bw1/ May the flames of Melisandre burn anyone who touches this beauty! "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 7, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: Historic Downtown Warehouse Building Facing Possible Demolition An emergency hazard order has been issued by the city for a pair of connected buildings at the corner of Neilston and Naghten Streets Downtown. The buildings – one four stories tall and the other six – contain about 100,000 square feet of space and are over a century old. The emergency order means that the buildings need to either be demolished or repaired immediately. “Advanced deterioration has occurred in the structure,” said Anthony Celebrezze, Deputy Director of the city’s Department of Building and Zoning Services. “The owners are to remediate the threat immediately. Once they pay for their permits they can move forward with a demolition of the structure without any further review.” The city arrived at that determination after bringing in an independent structural engineer to examine the buildings last week. Neilston Street between Naghten and Mt Vernon Avenue was closed off earlier this winter after bricks from the parapet of the six-story building fell onto the street. More below: https://columbusunderground.com/historic-downtown-warehouse-building-facing-demolition-bw1/ May the flames of Melisandre burn anyone who touches this beauty! Yeah they are going to demo it.
April 7, 20232 yr 26 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: Historic Downtown Warehouse Building Facing Possible Demolition An emergency hazard order has been issued by the city for a pair of connected buildings at the corner of Neilston and Naghten Streets Downtown. The buildings – one four stories tall and the other six – contain about 100,000 square feet of space and are over a century old. The emergency order means that the buildings need to either be demolished or repaired immediately. “Advanced deterioration has occurred in the structure,” said Anthony Celebrezze, Deputy Director of the city’s Department of Building and Zoning Services. “The owners are to remediate the threat immediately. Once they pay for their permits they can move forward with a demolition of the structure without any further review.” The city arrived at that determination after bringing in an independent structural engineer to examine the buildings last week. Neilston Street between Naghten and Mt Vernon Avenue was closed off earlier this winter after bricks from the parapet of the six-story building fell onto the street. More below: https://columbusunderground.com/historic-downtown-warehouse-building-facing-demolition-bw1/ May the flames of Melisandre burn anyone who touches this beauty! Walker commented on this with pictures he took from February 23 of when the brick fell off. The owner still hasn’t cleaned up the mess that is in the road. It’s been 6 weeks, I’m guess their plan all along was to let it fall into disrepair so they could demo it. I feel the company needs a daily fine, until they clean up the mess. Then if they don’t they should be stripped of the property.
April 7, 20232 yr This was intentional. I don’t get why these places don’t just buy the parking lots instead.
April 7, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, ColDayMan said: Historic Downtown Warehouse Building Facing Possible Demolition An emergency hazard order has been issued by the city for a pair of connected buildings at the corner of Neilston and Naghten Streets Downtown. The buildings – one four stories tall and the other six – contain about 100,000 square feet of space and are over a century old. The emergency order means that the buildings need to either be demolished or repaired immediately. “Advanced deterioration has occurred in the structure,” said Anthony Celebrezze, Deputy Director of the city’s Department of Building and Zoning Services. “The owners are to remediate the threat immediately. Once they pay for their permits they can move forward with a demolition of the structure without any further review.” The city arrived at that determination after bringing in an independent structural engineer to examine the buildings last week. Neilston Street between Naghten and Mt Vernon Avenue was closed off earlier this winter after bricks from the parapet of the six-story building fell onto the street. More below: https://columbusunderground.com/historic-downtown-warehouse-building-facing-demolition-bw1/ May the flames of Melisandre burn anyone who touches this beauty! Told you I’d get that article done ;)
April 8, 20232 yr 10 hours ago, columbus17 said: This was intentional. I don’t get why these places don’t just buy the parking lots instead. Because the families that have been ranking in dough for generations oj parking lots won't sell them.
April 8, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: Because the families that have been ranking in dough for generations oj parking lots won't sell them. Parking revenue downtown has been down since the pandemic and I don’t see it going back up. The company that owns this building already owns a bunch of lots in the area, which makes this even worse.
April 8, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Parking revenue downtown has been down since the pandemic and I don’t see it going back up. The company that owns this building already owns a bunch of lots in the area, which makes this even worse. A passive income with low taxes and little effort is still more valuable to some of these people. It's kind of like oil wells. TV or Song royalties, etc. It may be old and run down. Some months you make a couple hundred bucks. Other months you might rake in the dough but it's still income. Many if these lots have had the same owners for many decades so they are long paid off. As of yet, developers aren't really itching to pay bank for empty lots so a lot owner that just receives checks occasionally from the management company is still content. Any who, I will whole heartedly forever boycott this developer and be beyond mad if they don't do right by it. Maybe they should sell the building to a developer who will do right, or sell some of their lots ans use that income to save these buildings but I will again die on the hill of accepting the loss of half a city block. This would be one of the most substantial losses in downtown of recent memory. Probably Moreso than what LC took down. This is the city being lazy and giving the developer the easy way out. What a joke. And spare the 'you don't know' or 'we can't say' sympathy for demo because it takes very little to look elsewhere and see buildings in far worse conditions that are rehabilitated into stunning apartments, commercial space etc. And again, from my own knowledge and experience in this area, there is no way the whole thing is irredemable. Period. There's truly No if ands or buts about it.
April 8, 20232 yr 26 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: A passive income with low taxes and little effort is still more valuable to some of these people. It's kind of like oil wells. TV or Song royalties, etc. It may be old and run down. Some months you make a couple hundred bucks. Other months you might rake in the dough but it's still income. Many if these lots have had the same owners for many decades so they are long paid off. As of yet, developers aren't really itching to pay bank for empty lots so a lot owner that just receives checks occasionally from the management company is still content. Any who, I will whole heartedly forever boycott this developer and be beyond mad if they don't do right by it. Maybe they should sell the building to a developer who will do right, or sell some of their lots ans use that income to save these buildings but I will again die on the hill of accepting the loss of half a city block. This would be one of the most substantial losses in downtown of recent memory. Probably Moreso than what LC took down. This is the city being lazy and giving the developer the easy way out. What a joke. And spare the 'you don't know' or 'we can't say' sympathy for demo because it takes very little to look elsewhere and see buildings in far worse conditions that are rehabilitated into stunning apartments, commercial space etc. And again, from my own knowledge and experience in this area, there is no way the whole thing is irredemable. Period. There's truly No if ands or buts about it. Yeah, this building doesn’t look bad from the outside, I don’t believe for a second it can’t be saved. I’m not really optimistic about the outcome of this.
April 10, 20232 yr Asbestos removal work has started and the plywood in the window openings is being removed.
April 10, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, PizzaScissors said: Asbestos removal work has started and the plywood in the window openings is being removed. Is this prep work for demo, or actual renovation work?
April 10, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, PizzaScissors said: Asbestos removal work has started and the plywood in the window openings is being removed. If its so structurally insecure, why are they letting people in?
April 11, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, CbusOrBust said: Renovations continue on the Standard Building on E Long Amazing what was under all that awful cladding. To bad we can't seem to have more of these renovations to older buildings.
April 12, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, CMHOhio said: Amazing what was under all that awful cladding. To bad we can't seem to have more of these renovations to older buildings. I want to see the top 2 floors added back on top of the old Bott Bros. building.
April 12, 20232 yr 42 minutes ago, columbus17 said: I want to see the top 2 floors added back on top of the old Bott Bros. building. I never knew this, when did they get removed?
April 12, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, VintageLife said: I never knew this, when did they get removed? 1960. Would love to see them built again - they looked so good!
April 12, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, columbus17 said: 1960. Would love to see them built again - they looked so good! Not a shock is was the 60’s, seems like the time they destroyed everything else downtown.
April 12, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Not a shock is was the 60’s, seems like the time they destroyed everything else downtown. Mad about the hotel on Spring and Union Station for sure. If I ever get a hand in this city I will meticulously rebuild those as best as I can. We need to get back to building GREAT buildings!
April 12, 20232 yr Fun fact about the Chittenden Hotel (the "hotel at Spring")...the current occupant of the site, William Green Building, pays homage at the top! "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 12, 20232 yr On 4/10/2023 at 1:42 PM, VintageLife said: Is this prep work for demo, or actual renovation work? 99.99% chance they are readying for demo. These are goners. :(
April 13, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, CBUS_Res said: Residences at Topiary Park update: we have some trees planted! this is such a nice development!
April 13, 20232 yr 12 hours ago, Toddguy said: 99.99% chance they are readying for demo. These are goners. :( I will say this, if Hackman actually builds something transformational, like they say, I will be able to forgive them a lot easier. If they just build a bunch of 4-5 stories like Jeffrey Park I will hate them forever. Based off the current multi-use properties they have, I’m not going to hold my breath.
April 13, 20232 yr 21 minutes ago, columbus17 said: this is such a nice development! Completely agree, I do wish Parks would have allowed at least one new gateway along this side of the park. I guess historically there was not one and there are no formal "paths", but it would have been nice addition.
April 13, 20232 yr Just now, DevolsDance said: Completely agree, I do wish Parks would have allowed at least one new gateway along this side of the park. I guess historically there was not one and there are no formal "paths", but it would have been nice addition. Topiary park was in a lot rougher condition than I thought it would be in - would love to see it improved.
April 16, 20232 yr On 4/12/2023 at 8:30 PM, CBUS_Res said: Residences at Topiary Park update: we have some trees planted! Just looked up how much these are renting for, holy crap, hopefully they rent like crap and they decide to sell as townhomes ha. I’m sure they will rent out fine, they look beautiful. 1 bed 1 bath units from 666-761 sqft start at $1,650 a month
April 16, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Just looked up how much these are renting for, holy crap, hopefully they rent like crap and they decide to sell as townhomes ha. I’m sure they will rent out fine, they look beautiful. 1 bed 1 bath units from 666-761 sqft start at $1,650 a month I think they would be better as townhomes. Such a great location-very unique. They will probably do well either way I agree on that as well. *can we have some more of "this" along some other streets or parks in the city? This looks almost as good as Neighborhood Launch-which we also need more of. *They are going to brick over the front walkway, right? That will certainly help. Also when they get the shrubs and groundcovers in it will have that more finished look(I guess because it will be finished lol). Edited April 16, 20232 yr by Toddguy
April 16, 20232 yr 31 minutes ago, Toddguy said: I think they would be better as townhomes. Such a great location-very unique. They will probably do well either way I agree on that as well. *can we have some more of "this" along some other streets or parks in the city? This looks almost as good as Neighborhood Launch-which we also need more of. *They are going to brick over the front walkway, right? That will certainly help. Also when they get the shrubs and groundcovers in it will have that more finished look(I guess because it will be finished lol). These are some of the nicest apartment buildings I've seen go up in a long while.
April 16, 20232 yr My one criticism is they are a little flat. I wish there was a more defined setback between the visually different sections, closer to 3-5ft rather than the 8-12 inches currently present and perhaps some more height differentiation, an entire floor's worth for a couple of them. To me it looks like they tried and made the effort to scale but it wasn't quite enough to make it entirely successful IMO.
April 17, 20232 yr 19 hours ago, DTCL11 said: My one criticism is they are a little flat. I wish there was a more defined setback between the visually different sections, closer to 3-5ft rather than the 8-12 inches currently present and perhaps some more height differentiation, an entire floor's worth for a couple of them. To me it looks like they tried and made the effort to scale but it wasn't quite enough to make it entirely successful IMO. Yes it is not perfect(I think Neighborhood Launch/Gay St. looks a bit better) but It is still really good. It worked out better than I thought it would. And it has had to overcome adversity like burning down and having to rise again like a phoenix. Does anyone know if they are going to brick over the walkway along these? Are they going to put in shrubs/groundcovers etc.? That really helps NL look so good. These things do matter. * I can kind of imagine if these were there 125 or so years ago that the stretch along here would be a popular promenade with ladies pushing old fashioned baby carriages and people strolling to see and be seen along the park(which would have much better access). We really do need more stretches like this that can evoke that imagery-a place nice enough that people would be almost subconsciously drawn to it. Edited April 17, 20232 yr by Toddguy
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