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Man! What's going on here Dayton?? I mean seriously, these are major CHAINS closing, not ma and pa operations!

 

 

 

Miller Lane restaurant closes

 

By Mark Fisher

Staff Writer

 

Tuesday, January 15, 2008

 

BUTLER TWP, Montgomery County — Don Pablo's Mexican restaurant at 6870 Miller Lane has closed, marking the third Dayton-area restaurant to close since Jan. 1.

 

For more info, click the link

http://www.daytondailynews.com/b/content/oh/story/business/2008/01/15/ddn011508restaurantclosedweb.html

I am suprised that the Don Pablo's on Miller Lane stayed open this long.  It was never really that busy.  If I went out to dinner with my father who lives near there and did not want to wait at any of the other restaurants on Miller Lane then we would go to Pablo's.  The service was not the greatest but we always had a good meal.  There are people on the DDN that are saying the food is lousy but I never had a bad meal there.  They also said that there were health violations at the Beavercreek location.  I usually go there but haven't been for awhile. 

 

I don't understand the Ruby thing. It always seemed crowded to me but perhaps since they added the restaurants outside the mall they lost out on non-mall traffic.

What is going on with the mass exodus of restaurants in Dayton? It's like one has shut down every day for the last week?!?!? The Economy? Add to that, The Bombay store closing, J. Crew Closing. . .it's nuts!

As for Don Pablo's, I did eat there a lot and the service SUCKED really bad! I only went because I love their chips n salsa. but their service was flat out lousy. Even so, that doesn't explain the mass exodus of restaurants closing here in Dayton. I'm sure someone eventually is going to say the Greene...lol

Now this is really getting on my nerves! Joe's...I mean c'mon Joe's??? This is one of my favorites. This is the 4th closing and it's not even out of the first month yet! Is this what 2008 is going to offer the Dayton area?

 

 

Miller Lane seafood restaurant closes its doors

 

By Mark Fisher

Staff Writer

 

Thursday, January 17, 2008

 

BUTLER TWP., Montgomery County — Joe's Crab Shack at 6834 Miller Lane has closed, marking the fourth restaurant since Jan. 1 to shut down in the Dayton area.

 

For more info, click the link

http://www.daytondailynews.com/b/content/oh/story/business/2008/01/17/ddn011708restaurantclosedweb.html

Only Joe's in Ohio...did Canton (The Strip) close?!?!?

Didn't hear. I hope this doesn't affect Newport, as I am going to have to drive all the way there for my Dungeness crab!

I know a few Joe's in the Detroit area had been closed for about a year. Actually, about the time Landry sold them. On the Dayton B2B website article comments about Don Pablo's closing, a lot of people were wondering how that place stayed open.

 

City Flame was good, I think it's the biggest loss to the Dayton restaurant scene. Ruby Tuesday's was the most surprising to me, but they are so close to so many other chains that serve the same basic stuff, I'm not shocked. It's too bad all those people lost their jobs but that happens in the restaurant industry, regardless of how the current economy is. These are tough times, though, now. In a couple years, who knows?

Restaurant relocates, adds seating and alcohol

 

By Mark Fisher

Staff Writer

Friday, January 25, 2008

 

CENTERVILLE — Roc-a-Fellas Pizzaria & Grill has moved 12 blocks south.

 

The restaurant closed its location at 298 N. Main St. and relocated to the former Sips restaurant location at 1035 S. Main St. (Ohio 48), quintupling its seating capacity and gaining the ability to serve beer, wine and spirits.

 

For more info, click the link

http://www.daytondailynews.com/b/content/oh/story/business/local/2008/01/25/ddn012508restaurantmoveweb.html

Downtown Dayton bar closes; auction Saturday

 

By Mark Fisher

Staff Writer

Friday, January 25, 2008

 

DAYTON — Bimini Bill's, a downtown Dayton bar/restaurant, has closed.

 

For more info, click the link

^---Well, the DDN sure dropped the ball on this one. Bimini Bills has been closed for quite some time. My best friend, who has owned Area 51 in Kettering and the Paradox in Huber Heights was in the process of buying this from the former owner and was planning on re opening as a beach themed night club until the owner reneged on the deal and jacked the price up thinking my buddy was gonna bite. Ummm nope! My friend is now pursuing the Foundry with intent on using the beach theme there instead. Too bad Bimini Bill's owner! You should not break a deal!

Melting Pot taps into Dayton market

 

http://dayton.bizjournals.com/dayton/stories/2008/01/28/story4.html?b=1201496400^1581049

 

A national fondue restaurant chain is making its first dip into the Dayton market. The Melting Pot will open a 6,000-square-foot location in the Normandy West Shopping Center on Miamisburg-Centerville Road in Washington Township.

 

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Grindstone Charley's closes doors

 

http://dayton.bizjournals.com/dayton/stories/2008/01/28/daily17.html?surround=lfn

 

Grindstone Charley's, an American cuisine restaurant on Wilmington Pike in Kettering, closed Monday. The restaurant could not survive the influx of new restaurants to the Dayton area, said Jerry Graham, vice president of finance for Clancy's Inc., the Noblesville, Ind.-based operator of the chain.

 

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Restaurant to open in Beavercreek next week

 

http://dayton.bizjournals.com/dayton/stories/2008/01/28/daily14.html?surround=lfn

 

Local pizza and sub restaurant Milano's Atlantic City Subs will open its third area location next week in Beavercreek. The new 6,300-square-foot restaurant at Kemp and North Fairfield roads will feature 200 indoor seats, plus 36 seats on the patio, company officials announced Tuesday.

 

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Restaurant opens in downtown Troy

 

http://dayton.bizjournals.com/dayton/stories/2008/01/28/daily28.html?surround=lfn

 

The Caroline, a new upscale restaurant in downtown Troy, opened this week.

 

Owners Steven Smith and his wife, Melanie Elsass-Smith, spent five months and about $450,000 renovating the former Taggarts on the Square restaurant at 5 S. Market St.

 

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Miller Lane: Adios to 2 eateries

Don Pablo's and Joe's Crab Shack closed doors after performing below expectations.

 

By Kevin Tucker

 

Contributing Writer

 

Thursday, January 31, 2008

 

BUTLER TWP., Montgomery County — Two recent restaurant closures along the Miller Lane commercial strip shouldn't create a negative economic impact or curtail future development, according to the township administrator.

 

For more info, click the link

http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/neighbors/2008/01/31/ddn013108z5restaurant.html

^^  Time to look at the Ohio Division of Liquor control and see who has put in an application for a liquor license.  However, this does not mean they will build or move to an existing location.  Outback has had a license for Beavercreek by Target for some time but they have not started construction.

Barleycorn's first local joint full of friendly people

 

A small Kentucky restaurant chain chugged into the Dayton market late last year with the opening of Barleycorn's. The operators picked a bustling area to open, near Wilmington Pike and Interstate 675. I decided to peek in.

 

More here: http://dayton.bizjournals.com/dayton/stories/2008/02/04/tidbits2.html

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Parking

Ample. As the corner slot in a Wal-Mart shopping center, parking was surprisingly easy. But it was a weekday lunch and the weekend may be more difficult.

 

Yeah, so surprising....those Wal-Mart stores are really known for their tiny parking lots.  :roll:  Seriously though, what's up with the DBJ's infatuation with reviewing suburban restaurants in strip malls (and most of the time chain restaurants)?

Well, they are suburban.  I mean, I'm sure 725 is (sadly) more popular than an ACTUAL restaurant like those in the Oregon District, South Park, or downtown.

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Sonic restaurant architectural plans approved for Wilmington Pike location

 

By Kelli Wynn

Staff Writer

Tuesday, February 05, 2008

 

KETTERING — The city planning commission Monday night approved site and architectural plans for a Sonic restaurant at the Wilmington Pike Plaza, 2890 Wilmington Pike.

 

For more info, click the link

http://www.daytondailynews.com/b/content/oh/story/business/2008/02/05/ddn020408kettplanweb.html

^ That one's actually kind of surprising.  Everytime I drove by there (typically on weekends, though), the parking lot always seemed packed.  I know there is another one on Main Street in Englewood, but did they also build another one by the new Super Walmart on Hoke Road?  If so, I guess that explains it.

I'm not sure if they built one near Hoke or not. But I was surprised as well. I grew up in Trotwood and remember when this one was built. It's still decently new and was fairly busy last time I checked. Not sure what opted the closing.

Another chain restaurant closes

 

http://dayton.bizjournals.com/dayton/stories/2008/02/11/daily12.html?surround=lfn

 

The list of local restaurant closings continues to add names. Ryan's steakhouse on Miller Lane in Vandalia, is the latest to shut down, closing its doors on Monday, according to an employee who answered the phone.

 

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The places closing at Miller Lane were known for poor service which is why these places are closing left and right. Miller Lane has been established long enough that consumers are starting to weed out the bad ones. I would expect the vacant buildings to be moved into fairly quickly.

 

I don't see the Greene affecting Miller Lane. They are 20 miles apart and the Greene attracts a higher class of sit down restaurant patrons with higher priced dinners. This area just needs to settle down, quit blaming the Greene for everything and just accept it as being here. It's not going to go anywhere and the Dayton region needs to adjust accordingly.

I agree with you, but you really don't think that new developments like the Greene and the Villages at the Dayton Mall have had an impact?  The places that have been closing may have had poor service, but when people decide to drive across town (and plenty of people do) to go eat at the new chain that just opened instead, that's bound to be the death knell for some of these places closing.  If we keep building more and more retail and restaurants in an already oversaturated market that isn't growing, we're just going to end up with more empty buildings.

People will drive to the new chain to check it out once or twice, and then return to the chain closer to home.  I tend to agree about the Greene vs Miller Lane in terms of market..they are pretty far apart. 

 

Ryans is interesting as it was more of a lower-mid market place, not a fancy chain.  When i see places like this having problems I wonder if we are seeing the indirect impact of the decline in better-paying factory work, as this was the kind of place blue collar families would eat at. (and yes I am stereotyping a bit, but I come from this background, too).

 

In terms of market Greene will be in competition with the Fairfield Commons area, whats left in Kettering, and a bit of the Dayton Mall traffic.

 

 

I agree that when a new chain opens, yes people swarm it. But like Jeffrey stated, after a few times of driving across town, people will tire of it and settle back into their normal routine. I think the Greene and the Villages are impacting the southern suburbs, but I think there is a enough residents in Vandalia, Butler Twp, Clayton, Englewood Union, Huber Heights and Tipp City to more than keep Miller Lane going, not too mention the proximity to one of the busiest interchanges in Ohio.

 

As for Ryan's, I frequented them quite often along with Golden Coral a block down. I have to say, Golden Coral was always 3x's as crowded and was kicking Ryan's butt pretty bad. This is probably something Ryan's just could not compete against and caused the closure. The same could be said that Joe's closed because of Red Lobster a block down and Don Pablo's closed because of Chipotle across the street and El Ranchito across the highway.

Was it Flemming's Steakhouse that put Ryan's out of business?  No, of course not.  But I don't consider places like the Cheesecake Factory, Adobe Gila's, bd's Mongolian Grill, and PF Chang's terribly more upscale than some of the places closing.  Plus, chain-wise, Miller Lane, Fairfield Commons area, and Dayton Mall area all have more or less the same lineups, but the Greene and the new addition to the Dayton Mall seem to have mostly restaurant chains that are new to the area, so there is bound to be some market share lost to the new places.  Even if just temporarily, it may be enough to have an impact in the highly competitive restaurant industry.  Throw in some consistently poor service, new competition throughout the area (not just the Greene, but even in most of these places' backyards), a slowing national and local economy, and some poor performing parent companies and its no surprise that some places are closing.  I was just reading an article about retailers really starting to look at store performance and closing the weaker stores, even if they are making money, to mitigate losses they are anticipating from the slowing economy.  I assume the restaurant industry would be much the same.

^Got it.

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So then, this is what we should do. Go out en masse when our rebate checks come and use them at all the dining locations in the region, thereby equalizing regional spending and everything will be fixed! :lol:

^ Exactly!  :lol:

Does anyone have any idea what happened to 4200 Place on Kettering Boulevard in Moraine? I had no idea it had closed. Same with Walnut Hills (the second) on Brown Street. It's a Bargo's now. When did that happen?

Same with Walnut Hills (the second) on Brown Street. It's a Bargo's now. When did that happen?

I think it was over the summer.

I believe that's the former Cold Beer & Cheesburger/Oasis Cafe location across from the Nutter Center and WSU.

Peerless Mill Closing.

 

 

Historic restaurant to close in April

By Mark Fisher

 

Staff Writer

 

Tuesday, February 26, 2008

 

MIAMISBURG — Peerless Mill, the historic restaurant in downtown Miamisburg that survived a devastating fire and has served diners for nearly eight decades, will close April 30, owner Gary Wiegele said today, Feb. 26.

 

For more info, click the link

www.daytondailynews.com

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Another one bites the dust. This one is only a couple blocks away from me :-(

 

 

La Pergola Italian restaurant closes doors

 

By Mark Fisher

Staff Writer

Thursday, February 28, 2008

 

KETTERING — La Pergola, an Italian restaurant and pizza place at 122 E. Dorothy Lane, has closed, and the business is for sale.

 

For more info, click the link

http://www.daytondailynews.com/b/content/oh/story/business/2008/02/28/ddn022808restaurantclosedweb.html

I drove by there the other day and thought I saw a for sale sign, but I just figured it was for one of the other nearby businesses.  I hadn't been there in years, but I've always heard good things about the place and thought it was about time to go back.  Oh well, guess not.

I am saddened by the loss of La Pergola. It was quite good for what it was, didn't pretend to be upscale like many of the Italian restaurants in the Miami Valley do, and was reasonably priced with some great lunch specials. When a chain goes out I only feel for the employees. But when a local place goes out that was not (from when I've been there) hampered by quality, it's really too bad.

 

As for Peerless Mill, I don't think they ever fully recovered from the fire. And it's too bad. I would have dined there more often if lunch was a more available option (I work just minutes away) but alas. I will make it a point to go there before they close for good in a couple of months. Which I should have done but did not for Neil's and Dominic's and Peasant Stock and Duke's Golden Ox and . . .

^---Peerless Mill would make for a good Dayton gathering before they shut down permanently ;-)

This is NOT the way to try to keep restaurants downtown. Either way, I have a feeling this will be the end of another downtown eatery.

 

 

 

Landlord sues Kettering Tower restaurant

 

By Mark Fisher

Staff Writer

Monday, March 03, 2008

 

DAYTON — Downtown Dayton's Chantille's Restaurant will remain closed until a lawsuit between its owners and the Kettering Tower over the restaurant's lease is resolved, according to the greeting on Chantille's phone message machine.

 

For more info, click the link

http://www.daytondailynews.com/b/content/oh/story/business/2008/03/03/ddn030308restaurantlawsuitweb.html

"It's a wide-open market for us," Franks said.

 

I'm not sure about this. United Dairy Farmers is heavy hitter around Dayton when it comes to Ice Cream.

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