You can't speak for all Pop saying soda drinkers.  I encounter plenty of negativity toward the beloved word soda.

I'm not sure why, but of the list of Midwest words that I don't use, "pop" definitely is the one that's prone to make my ears bleed.  I'm used to hearing it, obviously, but I would never be caught uttering it.

 

As long as we're on this hijack: here's a map.  What's really interesting is the large area around St. Louis and the smaller area around Milwaukee that say "soda" when they're surrounded by "pop" country.  http://www.popvssoda.com/countystats/total-county.html

 

The weird people in Milwaukee apparently also say "bubbler" for water fountain, and I have no idea how that usage found its way out of New England.  (Bubbluh!)

You can't speak for all Pop saying soda drinkers.  I encounter plenty of negativity toward the beloved word soda.

 

Oh, I'm sure it goes both ways but I find that "soda" drinkers are far more volitile in their usage vs. the "pop" drinkers or even the "coke" drinkers.

Oh, Jesus, not pop v. soda again!

Since the Golden Nugget has been talked about in this thread, here's something from the Dayton Business Journal:

Golden Nugget to rebuild

The owner of the Golden Nugget Restaurant in Kettering that was damaged by an early August fire is looking to rebuild.

Betsy Thomas submitted a request to be reviewed at the city of Kettering's Board of Zoning Appeals meeting Nov. 14 at 7:30 p.m.

Thomas is seeking to tear down and rebuild the portion of the building that she owns. She leases the dining section, and she has not been able to acquire that portion of the property yet, said Ron Hundt, Kettering city planner.

According to the zoning application, Thomas wants to start construction as soon as possible and no later than March 2006.

 

Here is the rendering of the new Golden Nugget that was approved by the city of Kettering....just doesn't look like it has the same "character" as the old place. Definitely glad to see them rebuilding, though.

I was just looking back at this poll at the restaurant reviews here.  My husband and I ate at El Meson last night and really enjoyed it.  I wanted to write my review on it.  I have always wanted to be a food critic.  So here goes...

 

We had the most patient and most endearing waitress.  We had no idea what we wanted and she allowed us plenty of time.  Perhaps we were mesmerized by the colorful gecko lizards all over the walls!  :-o  In the spanish cultural mix of New Orleans, we frequented Cuban and Latin American tapas places before but this place has a charm of its own. 

 

Their "salsa" and fresh bread is surprisingly good.  It was not spicy but packed with a lot of flavor.  That is how I can best describe the dishes we had there.  I had the tortilla chicken soup as my "tapa" and my husband got a grilled corncake as his.  The soup was not like anything I have ever had.  The bowl arrived with the shredded chicken, cheese, guacamole, and chips.  The soup's broth sat in a thermos next to the bowl.  I looked it at strangely not sure what to do. Thankfully, our ever-so-sweet waitress walked by and pushed my overflowing chips to the side of my plate then poured the broth over my bowl mixing it up.  Again, looking at the soup it looked like it would be bland with a clear broth.  Yet again, the soup was packed with flavor thanks to its fresh, solid ingredients.  The husband enjoyed his grilled corncakes and cheese tapa too.

 

I was pleasantly surprised at the seafood dishes there.  For my entree, I ordered the grilled Mahi Mahi while my husband ordered shrimp fajitas.  His shrimp fajitas had a brown sauce with slight hint of peanut flavor. They came grilled with zucchini and other veggies and was a mouth full of plump taste.  Overshawdowing the fajitas though was my grilled fish cooked with olive oil, lime, and tomatoes bursting zest.  Both dishes came with yellow rice and black beans that when mixed together are the PB & J of Latin America.

 

And of course, one cannot forget to mention the house margarita I had while eating all my delectables.  Strong yet subtle, I sipped it for an hour and achieved just the light buzz I needed to end my workweek. 

 

This is Cajun Critic (Aka New Orleans Lady) offering four out of five heaping spoons (that's four out of five stars) to El Meson for a night and meal to remember....

 

 

The Winds? That's in Yellow Springs, you Daytonians WISH it was in Dayton. While you're snatching their best restaurant, I can't believe you didn't do the same with Young's Jersey Dairy. Graeters? No, sorry. But at least it's actually in Dayton, no? Aside from the Oregon District and the Dayton Art Institute, there didn't seem to be anything else downtown, actually. Dayton's good enough for a day-trip. Keep in mind I'm a poor college student, so that limits my options a bit.

I'm not sure why, but of the list of Midwest words that I don't use, "pop" definitely is the one that's prone to make my ears bleed.  I'm used to hearing it, obviously, but I would never be caught uttering it.

 

As long as we're on this hijack: here's a map.  What's really interesting is the large area around St. Louis and the smaller area around Milwaukee that say "soda" when they're surrounded by "pop" country.  http://www.popvssoda.com/countystats/total-county.html

 

The weird people in Milwaukee apparently also say "bubbler" for water fountain, and I have no idea how that usage found its way out of New England.  (Bubbluh!)

I'm the same way. I hate the word pop, I always say soda even though it's not that common. While I was in Wisconsin I noticed a few things said that were strange. They say Wisconsin with a really heavy emphasis on the "sc". I also heard someone say intenstines like "intesteins" haha.  I heard that when you say "Thank you" they reply with something strange like "thats okay".  Something like that..I can't remember exactly. I've never heard it though.

^I say "No problem" too, a lot.  Having a customer service job forced me to diversify lol. "Your welcome" just sounds a little out of context. (Sorry for being off topic).  Honestly, the only place I've ever been to in Dayton was at a strip club called Diamonds, when I turned 18. It was a great place but I don't have much to compare it to.

The Winds? That's in Yellow Springs, you Daytonians WISH it was in Dayton. While you're snatching their best restaurant, I can't believe you didn't do the same with Young's Jersey Dairy. Graeters? No, sorry. But at least it's actually in Dayton, no? Aside from the Oregon District and the Dayton Art Institute, there didn't seem to be anything else downtown, actually. Dayton's good enough for a day-trip. Keep in mind I'm a poor college student, so that limits my options a bit.

 

What?  And Graeter's is a Cincinnati-thing, sure, but Dayton still has it, like Columbus.  And yes, we can claim The Winds, since Columbus claims Granville and Delaware restaurants in the Dispatch/Alive/The Other.  Downtown has plenty of good food, including local favorites like Cold Beer & Cheeseburgers, Wympee's, and Flying Dog. 

 

Hell, downtown Dayton has more restaurants than downtown Columbus (sans Arena District), generally, so I know someone from Columbus isn't talking about restaurants in their downtown area.  I love Columbus but trust me, it's like the kettle calling the pot black, when discussing downtown Dayton to downtown Columbus.

They say Wisconsin with a really heavy emphasis on the "sc".

I find that fascinating for some reason.  I guess I hadn't expected "Wisconsin" to be a word with much freedom of pronunciation, but apparently it is.

I heard that when you say "Thank you" they reply with something strange like "thats okay".

 

Yes...actually I do use that expression, also the "no problem" experession inkaelin mentions.

 

 

And yes, we can claim The Winds, since Columbus claims Granville and Delaware restaurants in the Dispatch/Alive/The Other.  Downtown has plenty of good food, including local favorites like Cold Beer & Cheeseburgers, Wympee's, and Flying Dog.

 

Actually, though there is that wierd insular "I'm from Yellow Springs and your not" attitude Yellow Springs is pretty much part of the Dayton/Springfield metro area.  There is now a Winds spinoff here in the south suburbs..Meadowlark, over near Borders & Half-Price Books.

 

I guess, technically, Springfield can claim the Winds, too.

 

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Good new downtown place is Citilights in the Shuster Center.  Urban geeks will love it as they have these great night time pix of Urban Ohio skylines as part of the interior design.  Very "uptown" downtown. 

 

(and a thanks to NOLAdy for that good review of El Meson..a reminder that I need to get back there for dinner again).

 

 

 

 

 

I'm glad NOLady finally got to El Meson.  I'm just curious why she only gave it 4 stars out of 5.  I've found the ambiance, service, food, and drinks all top notch.  Try their mojitos or other drinks.  Its a great place to explore their various international dishes.  I happily give El Meson 5 stars for exceeding my expectations. 

There is now a Winds spinoff here in the south suburbs..Meadowlark, over near Borders & Half-Price Books.

 

Had no clue Meadowlark was a spinoff of The Winds.  Interesting.

That Meadowlark restaurant place got a great review in the Dayton City Paper a month or so back, and I believe they serve brunch there on Sundays.  That will be the next place I try.  I've passed it a dozen times too but have never gone in. I frequent that shopping center a lot- Health Foods Unlimited, Borders, my dry cleaner, etc.

 

El Meson got 4 out of 5 stars because although it was great, it still left me wanting the "wow" factor - the absolute mouth watering feeling that one can get from an ultimate dining experience.  And the other small factor that came into play was that our bill came to $63 plus tax.  So it's not a place we can eat afford to eat every week.  However, my review still stands and I would recommend it to others to try and hope to take my family member there when they come down, (I mean up), for a visit.

 

^Your price comment lead me to a thought. How do Ohio prices differ from Louisianna? I hope we are a bit cheaper.

Had no clue Meadowlark was a spinoff of The Winds.  Interesting.

 

Well, maybe spinoff isn't the right word.  The owner apparently had some sort of connection with the Winds (chef, partner, ?), so there is a connection of sorts..its not owned by the Winds, though.

 

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They do have brunch I went there today for it....was pretty busy, the busiest I've seen the place.  We went there around noon I think, and got a table, but there where folks waiting when we left. 

 

 

Prices? Depends on the item, of course.  Dining out is a little more expensive here.  All the restaurants along Rt. 725 always seem to be crowded; so my husband and I are trying to avoid that dining area now, even though we live so close to it.  We find some places more comparable to Louisiana though.  Where we used to live, every other restaurant had Italian and Seafood dish choices and they were all good.  But slowly we are finding places to eat here that are good too.

 

Gas is more expensive here (but might not be anymore since post-katrina) but we saved $400 in car insurance here compared to Louisiana auto insurance.

 

On average, groceries here have been cheaper....milk, bread, canned goods. Of course, seafood is more expensive here.  Oh how i miss paying $2.99 a pound for shrimp. 

 

Houses seem to be about the same.  But I'll know more about that by summer time when we go to buy a home here (our house in Louisiana is supposedly 3-4 weeks from being completed with repairs). 

 

I do think there are quite a few free or cheaper activities (besides eating) to do here... like festivals.  IceFest was free and their hot cocoa was just fifty cents.  Not bad for several hours of fun.  There are a lot of parks, museum tours, and other things here that are very affordable. 

 

I really can't complain so far. 

Jeff, how was your food at Meadowlark?

I had some sort of shittake omlette, which was fair, a bit strange.  Should have had the huevos rancheros as I like food a bit spicy.

 

 

Well, wait for warmer days in Dayton for the wow factor at El Meson.  As far as pricing, I pretty much ate there at lunch times.  I drank there and had tapas if I was there at a dinner hour.  Good times...

I'm backing this up:

 

Best Pizza:  1.  Flying Pizza  2.  Marions.

 

Best Burger:  Norton's

What?  And Graeter's is a Cincinnati-thing, sure, but Dayton still has it, like Columbus.

 

That's acceptable, but it's kinda sad that the best place isn't local.

 

And yes, we can claim The Winds, since Columbus claims Granville and Delaware restaurants in the Dispatch/Alive/The Other.

 

Hey, I never said it was OK when they do it. Not to mention the fact that the urban downtown neighborhoods here have the best restaurants. Downtown has M, which is supposed to be (one of) the best in the city (Anyone wish to verify whether or not that is the case?).

I believe the Refectory is regarded as the best, generally speaking.  And I wouldn't say that downtown and adjacent areas has the best restaurants in the city.  Perhaps the Short North, Grandview Heights, German Village, and various suburban-type restaurants (re: Refectory, Bexley, etc) are more "regarded."  Though yes, M is one of the best in the metro.

 

Locally speaking, Dayton has Ester Price for "local sweets."

Hell, downtown Dayton has more restaurants than downtown Columbus (sans Arena District), generally, so I know someone from Columbus isn't talking about restaurants in their downtown area.  I love Columbus but trust me, it's like the kettle calling the pot black, when discussing downtown Dayton to downtown Columbus.

 

 

arrrr! chris, you are usually right when dayton is involved, but downtown columbus really does have more restaurants than downtown dayton. even without the arena district.

 

or are you counting the chicken bones in all the dayton trash cans? then it would be no contest

:lol:

uhh oohhh sounds like the start of a war between ohio cities

^no... dayton and columbus are friends.

:)

:-) :-) :-)

Are Dayton and Toledo friends? :-)

Hell, downtown Dayton has more restaurants than downtown Columbus (sans Arena District), generally, so I know someone from Columbus isn't talking about restaurants in their downtown area.  I love Columbus but trust me, it's like the kettle calling the pot black, when discussing downtown Dayton to downtown Columbus.

 

 

arrrr! chris, you are usually right when dayton is involved, but downtown columbus really does have more restaurants than downtown dayton. even without the arena district.

 

or are you counting the chicken bones in all the dayton trash cans? then it would be no contest

:lol:

 

Well if you are including City Center, I would hope so.  But generally, per capita, both are about the same (again, sans Arena District and City Center).

Right now I would take a friend from Toledo, Columbus, or wherever....

 

I miss my gal-pals from Louisiana.  Where are all the women on this website? I'm being very proactive at trying to meet people....went to a Dayton Woman's Club Meeting, attended a cooking class, and a facial party.  I'm looking into other clubs now. Maybe I would have more luck if I were in a bigger city?  I don't know.  I'm such a cool and fun person.  Where can I meet another heterosexual woman who is as goofy as I am? LOL.

 

I am thankful for this website, urban ohio.... it at least gives me a venue to talk and share thoughts....  Thank you for that.  Where is the history of urban ohio?  Who runs it? How do you pay for it?  And how did you all meet? At OSU?  If the history is hidden in some ancient forum, please send me the link.  I'm curious to how this site was started and how it has evolved. 

 

I asked the same question a while back:

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=5232.0

I asked the same question a while back:http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=5232.0

 

 

Thanks Ink, that was helpful. 

 

I guess I should try to use the search feature and look back at old threads more often.  But I'm a woman and I am impatient sometimes.  It's always easier just to pose a question on a new topic. 

 

After reading that info though, i want to pay my dues for being a member.  ColDayMan, where should I send my membership check to?

 

NOLady, maybe you and my sister should entertain one another.  She's a twentysomething enjoying some deliberate unemployed time after finishing her master's degree.  She lives in southern Riverside.

 

She's posted all of twice to this forum, but I'll bet I could bait her to post in here by bringing up the unemployment.  At the moment, she will destroy anyone who pesters her to get a job. :shoot:

I know of an 88 year old lady who always loves company. Maybe you and her could play checkers, sip lemonade, and visit the podiatrist together?

I asked the same question a while back:http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=5232.0

 

 

Thanks Ink, that was helpful. 

 

I guess I should try to use the search feature and look back at old threads more often.  But I'm a woman and I am impatient sometimes.  It's always easier just to pose a question on a new topic. 

 

After reading that info though, i want to pay my dues for being a member.  ColDayMan, where should I send my membership check to?

 

 

Membership checks?!?!  HOW DARE YOU!  You are welcome here and are a guest (and now a citizen) of the state of Ohio.  How dare you suggest that we charge!

 

*but then again, there IS a "Donate" link at the top of UrbanOhio's forum* :D :D :D

If you buy urbanohio photos (from the store) does that benefit the website or the photographer? Not that it matters, we need to support the admins too.

ColDay, when I click the "donate" link, nothing happens.

 

No way I'm donating to a POS site that can't even have properly-functioning links! :-D

 

(You'd just blow it on Lee's fried chicken anyway.)

Depends on how much it is, he might feel like cheesecake.

ColDay, when I click the "donate" link, nothing happens.

 

No way I'm donating to a POS site that can't even have properly-functioning links! :-D

 

(You'd just blow it on Lee's fried chicken anyway.)

 

OMG! I am crying over here!

 

That's a quote for the urbanbar, fo' sho'!

ColDay, when I click the "donate" link, nothing happens.

 

No way I'm donating to a POS site that can't even have properly-functioning links! :-D

 

(You'd just blow it on Lee's fried chicken anyway.)

 

It works, BaconBite.

ColDay, when I click the "donate" link, nothing happens.

 

No way I'm donating to a POS site that can't even have properly-functioning links! :-D

 

(You'd just blow it on Lee's fried chicken anyway.)

 

It works, BaconBite.

Yeah, but only because Rich (i.e. not you) fixed it.

Who cares.  It's fixed.

McCormick & Schmick's eyes Greene

 

An upscale seafood restaurant is looking to hook a location at The Greene.

 

McCormick & Schmick's Seafood Restaurants Inc. has filed paperwork to locate restaurant in Beavercreek.

 

http://dayton.bizjournals.com/dayton/stories/2007/01/29/story3.html

 

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Coffee and wine bar inks deal at Dayton Mall

 

A local franchisee for the Winans Fine Chocolates and Coffee concept hopes to uncork its Dayton Mall store in April.

 

Ben Czajka, a partner with Vandalia Coffee LLC, said Friday that he signed a lease for a 1,600-square-foot space in the mall's lifestyle center on Jan. 22.

 

http://dayton.bizjournals.com/dayton/stories/2007/01/22/daily28.html

Not really a restaurant, but I suppose I can put it here:

 

Beerman Realty to build $7.5M retail center

 

A new $7.5 million retail center is set to open before next Christmas along state Route 725, near the Dayton Mall.

 

The Shoppes at 725, a project by The Beerman Realty Co., will add another 33,500 square feet to the heavily traveled retail corridor in Miami Township.

 

http://dayton.bizjournals.com/dayton/stories/2007/02/05/story1.html

Wow...he violates his own thread within two posts...that's gotta be a record!

 

;)

Dayton pizzeria sets date for second area location

 

A new Milano's Atlantic City Submarines eatery is slated to open Feb. 26 in Miami Township.

 

The pizza and subs joint will be located in the Exchange at Spring Valley, a $60 million development at the corner of state Route 741 and Spring Valley Road.

 

For more, click the link:

http://dayton.bizjournals.com/dayton/stories/2007/02/19/daily4.html