Posted October 25, 20195 yr So, I figured no thread was appropriate for this - so I started it here. Yesterday, as I often do, I was reading before bed - and part of the subject-matter had to do with European rebuilds after WWII... Which then led me to GoogleMaps to look up some of these towns.. which then led to this string of crazy thoughts... I know there are developments like Crocker, Legacy, Eaton, etc. all over the country, and I guess that's similar to what I'm proposing... Nonetheless, I have yet to find an urbanized development similar to the European towns I've linked below. Why is that? I imagine that there the appeal would be there for a 2/3 acre, developed, pedestrian-oriented town center wherein all basic necessities can be handled. A mix of apartments, townhomes, and even free standing homes could be included, and all residents could be within a 10 minute walk to all necessities. https://www.google.com/maps/@48.7346793,7.0533208,3a,75y,93.99h,86.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGmG7DyVMvsY_23cRXf-ZjA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 https://www.google.com/maps/@46.5885921,1.5192555,3a,75y,39.22h,89.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXjvNvPe-iEKKPnyrIWt0jg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 https://www.google.com/maps/@50.7160842,4.6094334,3a,75y,88.49h,83.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1swpSxsnqvGWN5pZ20H9fY9Q!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DwpSxsnqvGWN5pZ20H9fY9Q%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D1.2012751%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 I feel like it's almost a missed niche for developers - although I know next to nothing about real estate development. I just think this would be a really big draw for people and local businesses alike. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm looking for something more similar to Boston's North End than Crocker Park - does anyone know of anything like this?
October 25, 20195 yr 13 minutes ago, YABO713 said: I'm looking for something more similar to Boston's North End than Crocker Park - does anyone know of anything like this? Yes! ? https://www.google.com/maps/@41.498792,-81.6901509,3a,75y,97.08h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sJOqz0TXslPRuUscvQnrH3Q!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DJOqz0TXslPRuUscvQnrH3Q%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D99.42072%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 Not quite the same, but gives me a Euro-vibe when I visit.... https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5096515,-81.6038,3a,75y,35.17h,91.98t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sU0b3WwcXlrxcvgZKwVan8A!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DU0b3WwcXlrxcvgZKwVan8A%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D87.1034%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 Edited October 25, 20195 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 25, 20195 yr Look up the New Urbanism movement, Andres Duany, Seaside FL and Norton Commons near Louisville KY. Of course a lot of these same strategies/principles can be put to work on our existing cities which is where you get into Jeff Speck and “Walkable City” Edited October 25, 20195 yr by thebillshark www.cincinnatiideas.com
October 25, 20195 yr 23 minutes ago, YABO713 said: I feel like it's almost a missed niche for developers - although I know next to nothing about real estate development. I just think this would be a really big draw for people and local businesses alike. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm looking for something more similar to Boston's North End than Crocker Park - does anyone know of anything like this? OSU kinda tried it on a very small scale with the Campus Gateway Development. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9940263,-83.006543,3a,75y,67.97h,92.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDuE77JQhG4-DzZDQusrSqQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
October 25, 20195 yr Author 1 hour ago, cbussoccer said: OSU kinda tried it on a very small scale with the Campus Gateway Development. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9940263,-83.006543,3a,75y,67.97h,92.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDuE77JQhG4-DzZDQusrSqQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 Yeah that's close... I'd mean like 2-3 acres of that, with sporadic greenspaces, retail, housing, and restaurants.
October 25, 20195 yr 1 minute ago, YABO713 said: Yeah that's close... I'd mean like 2-3 acres of that, with sporadic greenspaces, retail, housing, and restaurants. Yea I understand. I definitely wish we had more of what you are looking for. We are about to get some interesting pedestrian only areas in Franklinton with the Gravity project, but nothing like what you posted.
October 25, 20195 yr Check out Georgia St. in downtown Indianapolis. Still not quite to the scale of what you're going for, but it's basically a long 3 blocks of road that has been transformed with a cool, modern pedestrian median. There are a mix of hotels/restaurants/residences that line it. I've only been through there during a big event, but at least then it was very vibrant and busy. http://www.georgiastreetindy.com/
October 25, 20195 yr Author 52 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: Yea I understand. I definitely wish we had more of what you are looking for. We are about to get some interesting pedestrian only areas in Franklinton with the Gravity project, but nothing like what you posted. 39 minutes ago, urbanetics_ said: Check out Georgia St. in downtown Indianapolis. Still not quite to the scale of what you're going for, but it's basically a long 3 blocks of road that has been transformed with a cool, modern pedestrian median. There are a mix of hotels/restaurants/residences that line it. I've only been through there during a big event, but at least then it was very vibrant and busy. http://www.georgiastreetindy.com/ Tbh - What I'm looking for / describing would be less of a neighborhood and more of a town, I guess. Like if we picked a few acres in an exurb, (or even a deserted neighborhood in CLE) and developed it on its own, free standing and self-sufficient
October 25, 20195 yr 1 hour ago, urbanetics_ said: Check out Georgia St. in downtown Indianapolis. Still not quite to the scale of what you're going for, but it's basically a long 3 blocks of road that has been transformed with a cool, modern pedestrian median. There are a mix of hotels/restaurants/residences that line it. I've only been through there during a big event, but at least then it was very vibrant and busy. http://www.georgiastreetindy.com/ Honestly thought that was a 'Walnut Wednesday' at Perk Park in Cleveland when I first saw it! Edited October 25, 20195 yr by roman totale XVII My hovercraft is full of eels
November 28, 20195 yr On 10/25/2019 at 1:59 PM, YABO713 said: Tbh - What I'm looking for / describing would be less of a neighborhood and more of a town, I guess. Like if we picked a few acres in an exurb, (or even a deserted neighborhood in CLE) and developed it on its own, free standing and self-sufficient Opportunity Corridor? Perhaps incorporated with a new Police HQ campus?
December 5, 20195 yr ^ great idea and umm, opportunity! while its easy to pass off the continent in columbus as interesting, but just an early version of legacy or easton and the like, in its prime it was at least striving be something like what you are looking for -- all at once and with varied and useful villagey like shops and services (while our modern lifestyle mall versions are most definitely not). https://radio.wosu.org/post/curious-cbus-what-was-continent-its-heyday#stream/0 Edited December 5, 20195 yr by mrnyc
December 5, 20195 yr On 10/25/2019 at 1:59 PM, YABO713 said: Tbh - What I'm looking for / describing would be less of a neighborhood and more of a town, I guess. Like if we picked a few acres in an exurb, (or even a deserted neighborhood in CLE) and developed it on its own, free standing and self-sufficient This definitely sounds like Norton Commons. Here is an overhead view:
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