http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=3342&CASE=NE 2019-040

This new development in Hough is going before the northeast drc on the 29th. Not many details but its a multifamily building a couple blocks east of E 55th. Anyone know more?

Oddly, the intersection they give, Wade Park and White Ave., doesn't exist, as those are both E-W streets.

My guess is that it's on all of the land bank owned space on E 65th between the two avenues.

Delving further into research of the organizations involved, Ubiquitous Design LTD has done a number of small projects and designed the African American Cultural Garden and WRJ Developers is a brand new organization made up of a bunch of other groups.

The area of Hough has seen quite a lot of newly constructed "mini mansions" in the past couple decades from wealthy black professionals moving back to the neighborhood, but to my knowledge, this is the first multifamily in recent years.

This development also seems notable as one of the only black lead new construction development groups in Cleveland.

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=3343&CASE=EC 2019-055

Another project in Hough, also vague with little info on it and its exact location. This one's part of the Euclid Corridor Design meeting on the 31st. Not sure why though, the location given should put it in the Northeast.

56 minutes ago, tykaps said:

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=3343&CASE=EC 2019-055

Another project in Hough, also vague with little info on it and its exact location. This one's part of the Euclid Corridor Design meeting on the 31st. Not sure why though, the location given should put it in the Northeast.

 

@tykaps I assume that's the same site as this erstwhile development, dubbed "Core 90"?

 

 

Seems to be, but the plan is now for an apartment building instead of offices.

LDA Architects have designed a lot of awesome apartment buildings such as Church+State so I'm excited to see this.

If it's just going to be apartments it would be nice to see them save the ones that are currently there and just fill in the vacant lots.  But I doubt that we're that lucky!

1 hour ago, X said:

If it's just going to be apartments it would be nice to see them save the ones that are currently there and just fill in the vacant lots.  But I doubt that we're that lucky!

I've learned to not be too optimistic about development in the area but I'm hesitantly hoping LDA does something urban and hinting towards the historical apartments of the area. 

At the very least, it'll be better than Innova/Residence Inn. Such a car centric front with a poorly planned sidewalk. Like a desire path if it was grass, almost everyone I see ends up just walking in the car lane/parking when going past the building.

Looks like there is some move developments slated for the Hough area.

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2019/11012019/index.php

Two developments in Hough will be presented before the Cleveland Planning Commission on November 1st.  I couldn't find a thread for Hough specifically so I created this one.  I believe the E. 90th Street Apartments have been mentioned in the University Circle General Developments thread.  Though the areas may blend around E. 90th, the development is within Hough and as such, I think Hough deserves it's own thread.

 

1st:  E. 90th Street Apartments, which are north of Chester.  This development will require the demo of a few classic Hough apartment buildings along E. 90th.  I'll have to get some pics before they're gone.  Here's some of the images on the CPC website:

 

 

 

 

And 2nd: Another project located between White Ave. and Wade Park.  Looks to be about 24 units:

 

 

 

Love the first development. The second one looks like an office building in the 70's.

 

It's great to see more development in Hough though. This area needs it.

Are these market rate apartments?

30 minutes ago, ctown60 said:

Looks like there is some move developments slated for the Hough area.

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2019/11012019/index.php

That East 90th street project looks interesting.

What are the conditions of the larger existing bldgs on E 90 now that will be torn down?  There's plenty of space in Hough to build--hate to see old structures torn down.

 

As for the 2nd building----I agree--it looks like a 1970s office building----very bizarre to create new residential that looks like that.

10 minutes ago, Pugu said:

What are the conditions of the larger existing bldgs on E 90 now that will be torn down?  There's plenty of space in Hough to build--hate to see old structures torn down.

 

As for the 2nd building----I agree--it looks like a 1970s office building----very bizarre to create new residential that looks like that.

I was wondering about the condition of the tear downs also but you have to admit this is one of the better locations in Hough for new development (and making money which I am assuming is the goal) given how close it is to the Clinic.

 

Disagree with you about the look and really like the conceptual streetscape.  Looks like something you would find in Westwood in LA

^^One of the buildings (the light red-brick to the right) in the development footprint is one of my faves on the east-side.  Last time I went down the street was on a night my wife was getting off of work at the Clinc during the beginning of the year.  She parked on the street since she was running late and wasn't using the parking garage on the opposite side of Chester yet.  Every building in this shot is vacant:

 

Wow, some pretty big developments for that area! Agree with previous sentiments though - E90th looks like it'll be really cool and I like the architecture and streetscape.

 

Can't help but noticing that in small print, the location for the 2nd one is listed as being on "East 61th Street." ? Definitely not a fan of that one's design though. I'm excited for new residential development around the League Park neighborhood, but that just does NOT fit in with the context / existing aesthetics there. I guess we'll just have to see once completed.

Edited October 30, 20195 yr by urbanetics_

A third new development (also mentioned in the University Circle thread) on Ansel and Hough Ave. was presented to the CPC in April; again, this development blends with University Circle but is solidly within Hough.  It's currently under construction:

 

 

 

 

 

@Oldmanladyluck Thanks for creating this Hough thread!   Long overdue.

 

incredible what's happening in the area... scary to think we lose some more old Cleveland architecture (even more ironic that they survived the Hough riots).

 

 

1 hour ago, Oldmanladyluck said:

I couldn't find a thread for Hough specifically so I created this one

1. Thank you so much. With three major developments going on and a couple more possible ones in early stages right now, this was sorely needed.

2. It's confusing because they show two plans for the League Park Apartments, but I'm pretty sure the chosen plan was this one

With 3 floors each and 7 buildings, we're looking at 60 new units in the neighborhood.

The 59th Street project is hideous!

I like the E 90th one but am disappointed they're leaving the parking lot facing Chester.

Well it's great to see development happening in Hough even though the neighborhood was cut out of any opportunity zone funding. Hopefully these developments integrate to improve the quality of living of the existing community instead of simply displacing people.

1 hour ago, Htsguy said:

 

Disagree with you about the look and really like the conceptual streetscape.  Looks like something you would find in Westwood in LA

 

Well that may be the case for Westwood, LA, but in Cleveland and other parts of the country it looks more like a 70s office building.  If they keep the design they should at least make it neon green or something. That would make it more interesting and modern (for Cleveland).

Still not a fan of the architecture style, but the other site plan posted for the White ave project is MUCH better than the original posted at the top with a bunch of randomly placed L-shaped buildings. There’s more cohesion with the second site plan. And they are restoring street Grid on Wade Park Ave!!!

Hoping that something positive will happen to the 160-unit Kingsbury apartments on Hough Avenue, which are for sale but completely vacant and gutted by vandals....

 

https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/9410-Hough-Ave-Cleveland-OH/12825875/

 

 

^I would hope so- it's listed as an investment property which would more than likely include asbestos abatement.  For $1.9 at 160 suites that comes to $11,875 per unit before any needed repairs.  I assume that requiring HUD experience means the property would have to be federally subsidized?  

 

Hopefully the energy continues and the building is picked up for development.

45 minutes ago, Potamus said:

I like the E 90th one but am disappointed they're leaving the parking lot facing Chester.

100% Agree

It's very 1960's, at least.  I don't hate it, though.

3 hours ago, Oldmanladyluck said:

And 2nd: Another project located between White Ave. and Wade Park.  Looks to be about 24 units:

 

Thanks for the thread, I really dislike that they're taking a part of the neighborhood that actually has trees and tearing everything down (surely the new tree cover won't be near the same). There's plenty of similarly sized 'blank canvas' type lots closeby that would probably work better for something like this, this area has already been decimated by tear downs and lack of any tree cover through time, just look at the aerial screenshot above... ? 

Edited October 30, 20195 yr by GISguy

Owners of 1453 E 66th are trying to reopen the convenience store. It's a couple blocks east of the WRJ Development.

Where is Hough's "downtown"?

On 10/30/2019 at 11:56 AM, KJP said:

Hoping that something positive will happen to the 160-unit Kingsbury apartments on Hough Avenue, which are for sale but completely vacant and gutted by vandals....

 

https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/9410-Hough-Ave-Cleveland-OH/12825875/

 

 

I found this a while back and posted it in the University Circle thread since this thread didn't exist yet. While I don't believe "luxury apartments" are going to work between 3 public housing developments, it shows there was at least 1 company dreaming about this project. Does anyone know how structurally sound that building is? It has been open to the elements for over a decade and the Dixons Market next door has almost fully collapsed into itself. 

On 10/30/2019 at 11:41 AM, Potamus said:

I like the E 90th one but am disappointed they're leaving the parking lot facing Chester.

I agree, but that is part of the parking lot for the University Church of Christ at 89th and Chester and the developer presumably could not obtain the lot. 

On 10/30/2019 at 9:39 AM, Oldmanladyluck said:

 

 

I love this project for it's design, density, location, underground parking, # of units, variations in colors and textures. 

 

That being said, this looks like it will be an expensive address to call home and my only wish is for these developments, coupled by the Opportunity Corridors "New Economy District" just down E105th to help raise the residents in these neighborhoods rather than push them away. 

 

Dozens of interior doors had been removed from those old apartment buildings on E90th in September and I though the buildings were getting remodeled, but I drove by there a week ago and didn't realize how many windows were missing and the state of decay the buildings were in. Now I guess what I was seeing was a salvaging campaign prepping the site for demolition for (hopefully) this development. At least the larger buildings on E93rd and E97th are inhabited and most likely not in any danger. 

1 hour ago, Foraker said:

Where is Hough's "downtown"?

 

Nonexistant at this point- though my guess would be around the Crawford and Hough Ave. intersection back in the day. That doesn't include the intersection of Euclid and E. 105th, which was pretty much the center of it all on the east-side at one point though technically just outside of Hough's boundaries.

Hough had a linear downtown along Hough Avenue pretty much from just west of East 79th to just east of Crawford, including a theater movie, multistory residential hotels over shops and restaurants, private and public schools and more. It was an amazing, vibrant neighborhood. 

Too bad Historic Aerials (https://www.historicaerials.com/viewer) doesn't have google streetview...but agreed (Hough circa 1952):

 

Edited November 1, 20195 yr by MuRrAy HiLL

11 hours ago, KJP said:

Hough had a linear downtown along Hough Avenue pretty much from just west of East 79th to just east of Crawford, including a theater movie, multistory residential hotels over shops and restaurants, private and public schools and more. It was an amazing, vibrant neighborhood. 

 

Every Cleveland neighborhood should have its own "downtown" - commercial district/gathering place. 

1 hour ago, Foraker said:

 

Every Cleveland neighborhood should have its own "downtown" - commercial district/gathering place. 

 

Current Cleveland city planning codes would never allow for this to happen.  We're going to continue to get set backs, parking spacing, and single use.  Cleveland would need to adopt similar zoning codes as a Portland or Seattle.

 

But to police myself for getting off topic, this can be discussed further here: ?

 

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Edited November 1, 20195 yr by MuRrAy HiLL

On 11/1/2019 at 11:09 AM, MuRrAy HiLL said:

 

Current Cleveland city planning codes would never allow for this to happen.  We're going to continue to get set backs, parking spacing, and single use.  Cleveland would need to adopt similar zoning codes as a Portland or Seattle.

 

But to police myself for getting off topic, this can be discussed further here: ?

 

: 

 

At least CLEVELAND is in the process of updating its Zoning Codes with Urban Form Overlay ect. 

I believe they are starting with a trial in Detroit Shoreway. neighborhood and eventually the rest of the city.

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=3342&CASE=NE 2019-040

Comments and info added on the Hough Paradigm development.

In summary: They want to extend Wade Park Ave all the way from 65th to 55th. Looking at a 70/30 mix of subsidized housing. The first phase will be the 16 unit building at the corner of Wade and E 61st. The planning commission also advised that each building be developed individually with different designs so we won't see that same building at every corner. 

The E 90th buildings were approved as is with the condition of having a community discussion meeting.

I saw lots of action this week involving future projects in Hough.

 

75 Chester - The current Jehovah's Witness church is being redeveloped on the NE corner of Chester and 75th

Kenmore Commons apartments - on Wade Park Ave close to 88th

Ansel Hough Residences - On the southwest corner of Hough and Ansel

 

 

Haven't heard of 75 Chester yet- will this end up being apartments or maybe something mixed-use instead of the single-family uses on this stretch?

3 hours ago, Oldmanladyluck said:

Haven't heard of 75 Chester yet- will this end up being apartments or maybe something mixed-use instead of the single-family uses on this stretch?

Not sure. I've only seen the civil plans, not the architectural plans. 

It will be apartments...and the first phase will be on the NW corner of Chester and East 75th.

 

I didn't include it in my Hough roundup in Seeds & Sprouts because I was advised to wait. But I teased it a bit....

 

Seeds & Sprouts IV - Early intel on real estate projects

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2019/11/seeds-sprouts-iv-early-intel-on-real.html

First phase...I'm hoping that we'll see another phase across East 75th.  That's a large chunk of vacant land on a well traveled route there.

17 hours ago, sabotage619 said:

I saw lots of action this week involving future projects in Hough.

 

75 Chester - The current Jehovah's Witness church is being redeveloped on the NE corner of Chester and 75th

Kenmore Commons apartments - on Wade Park Ave close to 88th

Ansel Hough Residences - On the southwest corner of Hough and Ansel

 

 

 

Are you sure it's Kenmore Commons? That was a renovation project involving Kenmore Village and Kenmore Gardens from 2016. If you're referring to the vacant land on the south side of Wade Park near East 88th, I see that Famicos Foundation owns most of the land where the amazing Alhambra apartment building used to stand until 2011.

 

Going back in time (and towards downtown), we find the previous record holder of the largest apartments in Cleveland.  It's the Alhambra at the southeast corner of Wade Park Avenue and E. 86th, constructed in 1902 and designed in a Spanish style by Paul Searles and Willard Hirsch.  The entire rear façade was covered with a multi-storied steel “patio” that connected all of the kitchens and rear entrances to the 56 suites.  The complex was demolished in 2011, after a long period of vacancy and deterioration.  Eric Johannesn, author of Cleveland Architecture, 1876-1976, described the structure thus: “Five square towers projected above the roof of the four-story building, supported on machicolations to give the effect of a fortress, and topped off with pyramidal roofs. This provided a suitably monumental yellow brick facade for the upper middle-class inhabitants of the middle East Side.”

 

http://toursbyjoshwhitehead.blogspot.com/2015_03_01_archive.html?view=classic

 

 

More photos at:

http://www.clevelandareahistory.com/2011/10/lost-biggest-apartment-building-in.html

Edited November 29, 20195 yr by KJP

Such a shame!

I have photos of the Alhambra that I'll have to dig for- it was definitely an architectural loss for the neighborhood. Many residents who lived close by about 10 years ago wanted it torn down as it was open vacant for so long that it was often used for cover by drug users and prostitutes.

 

That's the flip side to some of these beautiful old buildings in the neighborhood.

52 minutes ago, Oldmanladyluck said:

I have photos of the Alhambra that I'll have to dig for- it was definitely an architectural loss for the neighborhood. Many residents who lived close by about 10 years ago wanted it torn down as it was open vacant for so long that it was often used for cover by drug users and prostitutes.

 

That's the flip side to some of these beautiful old buildings in the neighborhood.

Yup. If it’s not gonna be rehabbed quickly it has to come down. Shame we lost this building but it was a nuisance