February 11, 20214 yr I love that they are going to start working on renovating the awful seven-story parking garage right away. That place is an eye-sore both inside and out. Would be amazing if they covered it up with a mural or something like that.
February 11, 20214 yr I was told they intend to construct a new garage. I dont know if this is still the case, or what will become of that surface lot- but I assume that is owned by someone else? This should be a fun project to watch.
February 11, 20214 yr 44 minutes ago, mrclifton88 said: I was told they intend to construct a new garage. I dont know if this is still the case, or what will become of that surface lot- but I assume that is owned by someone else? This should be a fun project to watch. Why assume when there's county GIS to help ya out? :P You're correct with that surface lot...I'm sure that'll be an expensive addition if they want to own all of that.
February 11, 20214 yr It would be SO nice to see that lot go away... it will be interesting to see what K&D ultimately intends to do here.
February 12, 20214 yr On that same block is the City's Department of Taxation. A quick Google Street View shows undated renovations underway. A cool looking old place (Listed in the Euclid Historic District by the way.) Does anyone know more about this structure and the current condition? It appears to be connected via sky-walk into 55PS, and also into that same horrible garage. Architect, builder, or engineer: Knox and Elliot, Murgatroyd (Is that a real name!?😆), Robert and Odgen (Early 20th Century date unspecified) Also I particularly 💖 the sign for "Executive Parking" over the entrance to the garage. The image it brings to mind is a cartoon executive of a small time crime family. Edited February 12, 20214 yr by ExPatClevGuy
February 12, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Frmr CLEder said: Any news on the future of the former Stouffer's John Q's? They have a new restaurant planned for the space with a rooftop added.
February 12, 20214 yr 16 hours ago, ExPatClevGuy said: Also I particularly 💖 the sign for "Executive Parking" over the entrance to the garage. The image it brings to mind is a cartoon executive of a small time crime family. That sign is hilarious. The "executives" are First National Bank's, who park in the basement --- the only part of the garage where concrete does not fall onto the cars, from what I hear.
February 12, 20214 yr 16 minutes ago, skiwest said: This is the only cartoon executive I can think of. He is a handsome devil!
February 13, 20214 yr Interesting choice for a residential conversion, but great news. It'll be good to have more residential closer to the square.
February 13, 20214 yr I wonder if the decision to convert to residential speaks more to the demand for housing or softness in the office market. Or maybe just because that's K&D's forte. Regardless, a modernization is sorely needed for that building, the garage, and also John Q's. I would love to hear their plans for John Q's
February 20, 20214 yr Author On 2/11/2021 at 4:00 PM, mrclifton88 said: I was told they intend to construct a new garage. I dont know if this is still the case, or what will become of that surface lot- but I assume that is owned by someone else? This should be a fun project to watch. Looks like a new garage. There was an item in today's Dodge Reports about K&D needing a firm to do planning schematics for a new parking garage at 55 Public Square. The projected cost of design is $1.1 million. That suggests a new parking garage costing about $12 million to $18 million or a roughly 700-space parking garage. The firms listed with K&D are Taylor Consulting Group and Donley's Restoration Group. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 20, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, KJP said: Looks like a new garage. There was an item in today's Dodge Reports about K&D needing a firm to do planning schematics for a new parking garage at 55 Public Square. The projected cost of design is $1.1 million. That suggests a new parking garage costing about $12 million to $18 million or a roughly 700-space parking garage. The firms listed with K&D are Taylor Consulting Group and Donley's Restoration Group. Would the new garage have to have ground floor retail or no because it’s a rebuild?
February 20, 20214 yr Author 14 minutes ago, cle_guy90 said: Would the new garage have to have ground floor retail or no because it’s a rebuild? Those cost figures suggest a new garage. A replacement. So if they're building a new garage, there would have to be active uses fronting on West 3rd and on St. Clair. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 20, 20214 yr On 2/11/2021 at 4:52 PM, GISguy said: Why assume when there's county GIS to help ya out? :P You're correct with that surface lot...I'm sure that'll be an expensive addition if they want to own all of that. 9 hours ago, KJP said: Looks like a new garage. There was an item in today's Dodge Reports about K&D needing a firm to do planning schematics for a new parking garage at 55 Public Square. The projected cost of design is $1.1 million. That suggests a new parking garage costing about $12 million to $18 million or a roughly 700-space parking garage. The firms listed with K&D are Taylor Consulting Group and Donley's Restoration Group. 9 hours ago, KJP said: Those cost figures suggest a new garage. A replacement. So if they're building a new garage, there would have to be active uses fronting on West 3rd and on St. Clair. @KJP @tykaps - What’s are the chances that K&D would be able to buy out that corner lot? On the one hand, it would be an expensive addition. On the other hand, once that lot is surrounded by the new garage (and required street-facing active use), I would think it wouldn’t be worth nearly as much to anyone else. That’s a pretty small lot. I hope it isn’t one of those situations like in Little Italy across from the new rapid station, where the sliver sized parking lot owner wanted too much money, so now he has a worthless slice of land AND the new apartments next door had to do parking access from Mayfield instead of the side street. (Although that was a MUCH smaller slice of land.) When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
February 20, 20214 yr Unfortunately for this particular project I dont think they will be buying that lot- just re-building the parking garage around it.
February 20, 20214 yr 14 hours ago, KJP said: Looks like a new garage. There was an item in today's Dodge Reports about K&D needing a firm to do planning schematics for a new parking garage at 55 Public Square. The projected cost of design is $1.1 million. That suggests a new parking garage costing about $12 million to $18 million or a roughly 700-space parking garage. The firms listed with K&D are Taylor Consulting Group and Donley's Restoration Group. I'm not sure about that. City permit was uploaded Thursday for the renovation of the existing parking garage with an estimated cost of $1.2 million, also using Taylor Consulting and Donkey (edit: Donley) Restoration. https://ca.permitcleveland.org/public/Cap/CapDetail.aspx?Module=BuildingHousing&TabName=BuildingHousing&capID1=21BHO&capID2=00000&capID3=01882&agencyCode=COC&IsToShowInspection= And based on that @Boomerang_Brian, I don't imagine they're going to be using that corner lot. Edited February 20, 20214 yr by tykaps Donley restoration, not Donkey. Thank you autocorrect
February 20, 20214 yr 9 minutes ago, tykaps said: Taylor Consulting and Donkey Restoration. Donkey Restoration - they’re a bunch of a$$es. 😂 When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
February 20, 20214 yr Author 3 hours ago, tykaps said: I'm not sure about that. City permit was uploaded Thursday for the renovation of the existing parking garage with an estimated cost of $1.2 million, also using Taylor Consulting and Donkey (edit: Donley) Restoration. https://ca.permitcleveland.org/public/Cap/CapDetail.aspx?Module=BuildingHousing&TabName=BuildingHousing&capID1=21BHO&capID2=00000&capID3=01882&agencyCode=COC&IsToShowInspection= And based on that @Boomerang_Brian, I don't imagine they're going to be using that corner lot. That's too bad. Here I thought it was $1.2 million just for design. Dodge didn't say if the project was renovation or new construction. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 6, 20214 yr Walked past earlier and noticed than Donley have set up a construction office in the parking garage office next to the ‘Executive’ entry. Further suggests that is it is a refurb, not a rebuild, otherwise they’d be knocking down the office they just set up in. My hovercraft is full of eels
March 19, 20214 yr 55 public Square News. https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/work-already-starting-on-project-to-turn-55-public-square-into-one-of-the-most-exciting-buildings-in-the-city
March 20, 20214 yr This is a great project. That rooftop restaurant space will have good views of the square. I wonder what restauranteur they are in negotiations with. I love the addition of the billboard/mural too. Interesting that they are doing apartments on the bottom and office space up top - you think it would be reversed. Does anyone know if the windows are being replaced or the exterior worked on, or is it just the interiors?
March 20, 20214 yr When K&D said they’re already starting...they weren’t kidding - The parking garage is already under construction. They’re not messing around!! Can’t wait to continue watching this renovation progress!
March 21, 20214 yr Author “This building in front of us will only be two stories,” said Price, pointing out of the windows in 55 Public Square’s lobby. “According to what I’ve seen, so 55 keeps its real high profile in the square.” Huh... I wonder where he saw that? 😎 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 22, 20214 yr https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/55-public-square-will-bring-new-residential-office-and-restaurant-space-back-to-downtown
May 22, 20214 yr 30 minutes ago, skiwest said: https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/55-public-square-will-bring-new-residential-office-and-restaurant-space-back-to-downtown This is pleasant news. The garage could also eventually house a large video board that would be visible around Public Square and from his restaurant’s rooftop deck. Public Square could certainly have more color, video boards, and liveliness overall. Sherwin Williams, please feel free to add a similar COLORFUL moving video board as well! 🙂 Edited May 22, 20214 yr by MuRrAy HiLL
May 22, 20214 yr $1000 for a 525 sq. ft. studio on public square is very attractive!! The Mayfield Station micro units in Little Italy are about $1400 to $1500, and they appear 100% booked. These K&D units should do great.
May 23, 20214 yr 19 hours ago, MuRrAy HiLL said: This is pleasant news. The garage could also eventually house a large video board that would be visible around Public Square and from his restaurant’s rooftop deck. Public Square could certainly have more color, video boards, and liveliness overall. Sherwin Williams, please feel free to add a similar COLORFUL moving video board as well! 🙂 I was very against the Sherwin Williams low-rise "paint museum", but hearing how the surroundings might interact gives me hope.
June 30, 20213 yr ** Cleveland.com Subscriber Exclusive ** 55 Public Square, Agora Theatre complex renovations win Ohio historic tax credits Eric Heisig - Clvelenad.com - June 30, 2021 "The state on Wednesday said developers renovating 55 Public Square in downtown Cleveland will receive a $5 million historic preservation tax credit. The Ohio Development Services Agency announced dozens of grants, with the highest amounts of $5 million each going to the Public Square project and others in Canton and Cincinnati. ... The new owners plan to create apartments in the bottom half of the building, once called the Illuminating Building from when it was the headquarters for the Cleveland Electric Illuminating Co. The top floors will remain as office space, and K&D plans to do work on common areas. The project is estimated to cost $59.2 million."
July 29, 20213 yr i hope they honor 55s era in the redevelopment. its a decent international/jet-age style building. i think it was cleveland’s first? so a little ratpack era swagger in the interior would be fitting. its weird to say, but the parking garage redo will especially really brighten it up. i hope they still plan to go with a video ad screen for it. all in all this is just a great project. its so nice to see the last sore spots downtown being redeveloped!
July 29, 20213 yr 8 hours ago, mrnyc said: so a little ratpack era swagger in the interior would be fitting. Here here!
July 29, 20213 yr I could do without a video billboard on Public Square. They're way too bright and tacky as hell.
July 29, 20213 yr On 7/26/2021 at 4:37 PM, simplythis said: Does anyone know if they are putting in new windows? I have to imagine they are. Window technology has come a long way since the current ones were installed. There’s no way the existing windows are very energy efficient. What I wonder is how different the new ones will look. I don’t think they can do anything drastically different because of the historic preservation credit, but new windows won’t look exactly the same, and would probably add some cleanness to the overall look.
July 29, 20213 yr I expect the mirroring effect in the windows to disappear. That was a "recent" modification to 55. As a historic preservation effort, I expect the return to clear or perhaps minimally tinted glass. I'd like to get a better look, but to my eye that corrugated canopy in the illustration is a period revival fail.
July 30, 20213 yr from the render it looks like no restaurant?? that’s fine, but just wondering about it. the render of the base is excellent and really respects the era of the building. as for the video screen, i thought that was supposed to be for the garage? not sure how that would be seen over public square. i hope they dont mean up on the roof of 55 or something like that??
August 7, 20213 yr Author And the first new office tenant of 55 Public Square will be.....the general contractor's offices for the renovation! Actually, has anyone heard who the long-term office tenants might be? Record B21022177: Com Building Permit Record Status: Application Pending Work Location 55 Public Square CLEVELAND OH 44113 Record Details Project Description: Cleveland Construction Temporary Field Office Temporary construction field office for Cleveland Construction during the renovation of 55 Public Square. This office will include 7 offices, a break room, IT room, storage closet, conference room, and reception area. Owner: Cleveland Construction, Inc. 8620 Tyler Boulevard Mentor OH 44060 Collapse Related Contacts Responsible Party information Greg Dalpiaz Cleveland Construction, Inc. 8620 Tyler Boulevard Mentor, OH, 44060 Contact Phone 440-255-8000 E-mail: [email protected] Collapse Additional Information Job Value($): $25,000.00 Collapse Application Information COMMERCIALNature of Job Description.:AlterationUse Group 1:B BusinessConstruction Class:IBCertificate of Occupancy Required:Yes BUILDING CODEWork Area:1845Sprinklers:NoFire Alarm:NoKSQFT:2KFPSQFT:1 Collapse Parcel Information Parcel Number: 101-07-004 Ward: 3 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 15, 20213 yr @Agreene, how were you able to fly in Class A airspace? Great photos! Edited August 15, 20213 yr by Silent Matt
August 15, 20213 yr 39 minutes ago, Silent Matt said: @Agreene, how were you able to fly in Class A airspace? Great photos! Class A is above 18,000 feet MSL. These weren't in Class A.
August 15, 20213 yr 2 hours ago, Silent Matt said: @Agreene, how were you able to fly in Class A airspace? Great photos! Before you fly the app should ask you a few questions you just check off. Should give you permission to fly then. Because of Burke Airport you unfortunately can’t fly basically anywhere from the railroad tracks and north.
August 15, 20213 yr 10 hours ago, metrocity said: Great pics, I just love that building I agree 55 PS is a gorgeous building, beautifully proportioned and appointed. The exterior doesn't need anything major, although the makeover of the restaurant is well designed. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
August 15, 20213 yr 8 hours ago, Agreene said: Before you fly the app should ask you a few questions you just check off. Should give you permission to fly then. Because of Burke Airport you unfortunately can’t fly basically anywhere from the railroad tracks and north. Ok I remember it saying like you had to download some crap and read it and this and that. So that stuff doesn’t really matter? You don’t necessarily have to really accomplish those duties? There were 3 items to check off.
August 15, 20213 yr 10 hours ago, Cleburger said: Class A is above 18,000 feet MSL. These weren't in Class A. Yeah well when I went to fly I was blocked and it said I was in Class A airspace because of Burke.
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