April 3Apr 3 1 hour ago, VintageLife said: I really hope that Edwards stays heavy on developing this area and that the current economic problems don’t slow him down. 10-yr treasury just dropped to 4%. Economic problems are lifting - the only problem is LABOR. No one is talking about it, and everyone needs to. We need to stop advertising college and start supporting trades and fast!
April 3Apr 3 4 hours ago, columbus17 said: 10-yr treasury just dropped to 4%. Economic problems are lifting - the only problem is LABOR. No one is talking about it, and everyone needs to. We need to stop advertising college and start supporting trades and fast! I agree 100%!
April 3Apr 3 8 hours ago, 614love said: Is it completely open to the public? Not quite yet. As of yesterday, crews were still working on some of the lighting and some other finishing touches.
April 3Apr 3 10 hours ago, columbus17 said: 10-yr treasury just dropped to 4%. Economic problems are lifting - the only problem is LABOR. No one is talking about it, and everyone needs to. We need to stop advertising college and start supporting trades and fast! People need to see more than 12 years without layoffs before the trades fully recover interest.
April 3Apr 3 1 minute ago, GCrites said: People need to see more than 12 years without layoffs before the trades fully recover interest. It’s also a hard life to live. The trades are great and I do think we need to push them harder, but many people will never do it, because it absolutely kills your body. It’s just not worth it to so many people.
April 3Apr 3 1 hour ago, VintageLife said: It’s also a hard life to live. The trades are great and I do think we need to push them harder, but many people will never do it, because it absolutely kills your body. It’s just not worth it to so many people. Sitting in an office chair staring at a computer screen a foot in front of your face for 8-9 hours a day kills your body as well, but in a very different way.
April 3Apr 3 2 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: Sitting in an office chair staring at a computer screen a foot in front of your face for 8-9 hours a day kills your body as well, but in a very different way. Been there, done that. Totally agree. I need connection and activity.
April 3Apr 3 9 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: Sitting in an office chair staring at a computer screen a foot in front of your face for 8-9 hours a day kills your body as well, but in a very different way. 100% agree, it’s mental vs physical mostly. A lot of people are okay with destroying their mental over destroying their bodies. Either way, we need both and people need to stop trying to pit the two against each other and realize that we need both. Some people will want the office life others will want the trades life.
April 3Apr 3 3 hours ago, VintageLife said: 100% agree, it’s mental vs physical mostly. A lot of people are okay with destroying their mental over destroying their bodies. Either way, we need both and people need to stop trying to pit the two against each other and realize that we need both. Some people will want the office life others will want the trades life. These things aren't mutually exclusive..... Any and all work can both have negative impacts to your physical or mental wellbeing if you allow it to. It's not a competition of "which job suffers the most" out here and let's not do that it's unnecessary. I don't think anyone is pitting these two against each other either, there is nothing to support that claim. All jobs exist for a reason. If we didn't need the job, it would not exist. The teenager scooping your ice cream in the summer, the person picking up your trash every week, the soldier on post at a military base in Korea and the doctor saving your life, all of these jobs exist because there's a need for it.
April 3Apr 3 13 minutes ago, TIm said: These things aren't mutually exclusive..... Any and all work can both have negative impacts to your physical or mental wellbeing if you allow it to. It's not a competition of "which job suffers the most" out here and let's not do that it's unnecessary. I don't think anyone is pitting these two against each other either, there is nothing to support that claim. All jobs exist for a reason. If we didn't need the job, it would not exist. The teenager scooping your ice cream in the summer, the person picking up your trash every week, the soldier on post at a military base in Korea and the doctor saving your life, all of these jobs exist because there's a need for it. Yes I agree with this, thank you for saying more of what I meant. Any and all jobs will physically and mentally drain you and can ruin you. My original response was just about how pushing trades isn't always going to work, because so many young people see how it can damage your body and will skip, even if office jobs or other professions do the same thing.
April 3Apr 3 11 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Yes I agree with this, thank you for saying more of what I meant. Any and all jobs will physically and mentally drain you and can ruin you. My original response was just about how pushing trades isn't always going to work, because so many young people see how it can damage your body and will skip, even if office jobs or other professions do the same thing. Where are you seeing this disdain for the trades? There are technical high schools all over this country that are full of teenagers training to be in the trades. The trades have literally never seemed like more of a good option compared to years past. College is more expensive than ever and jobs requiring college degrees are paying less than they ever have comparatively and the job market is more competitive than it ever has been. On the flip side, you start your plumbing apprenticeship at 18 after graduating from Tech school, you're a full licensed plumber by 22 making close to or more than 6 figures and you're owning a home by 25 while all your hometown friends are living with roommates or parents and paying off debt. Maybe what you hear on the internet suggests people don't like trades, but what I see out in the world suggests exactly the opposite.
April 3Apr 3 10 minutes ago, TIm said: Where are you seeing this disdain for the trades? There are technical high schools all over this country that are full of teenagers training to be in the trades. The trades have literally never seemed like more of a good option compared to years past. College is more expensive than ever and jobs requiring college degrees are paying less than they ever have comparatively and the job market is more competitive than it ever has been. On the flip side, you start your plumbing apprenticeship at 18 after graduating from Tech school, you're a full licensed plumber by 22 making close to or more than 6 figures and you're owning a home by 25 while all your hometown friends are living with roommates or parents and paying off debt. Maybe what you hear on the internet suggests people don't like trades, but what I see out in the world suggests exactly the opposite. Didn’t say there was disdain, I said over pushing trades won’t work, some people want to be in trades and others don’t. I wasn’t saying people hate the trades. It should be a higher focus in all schools and all community colleges. Office jobs are also important and are also needed for everything to work together. I think the best thing would be to give students more of an option in middle school, like we used to have. Have shop class, and home ec classes, so students are better prepared for whatever field they feel more comfortable with. There shouldn’t be a push for moving more people towards any degree, because that’s how we got to where we are now, with a decline in trades. Give students options to explore different fields and have them choose.
April 3Apr 3 28 minutes ago, TIm said: Where are you seeing this disdain for the trades? There are technical high schools all over this country that are full of teenagers training to be in the trades. The trades have literally never seemed like more of a good option compared to years past. College is more expensive than ever and jobs requiring college degrees are paying less than they ever have comparatively and the job market is more competitive than it ever has been. On the flip side, you start your plumbing apprenticeship at 18 after graduating from Tech school, you're a full licensed plumber by 22 making close to or more than 6 figures and you're owning a home by 25 while all your hometown friends are living with roommates or parents and paying off debt. Maybe what you hear on the internet suggests people don't like trades, but what I see out in the world suggests exactly the opposite. Yeah now it's the white-collar jobs laying people off all the time and the trades aren't. So a lot of young people started to decline going to college. You saw that starting in the late 2010s.
April 4Apr 4 17 hours ago, GCrites said: Yeah now it's the white-collar jobs laying people off all the time and the trades aren't. So a lot of young people started to decline going to college. You saw that starting in the late 2010s. Exactly. College enrollment has been declining significantly for like the past decade as more people opt to pursue careers which don't require a college degree.
April 5Apr 5 On 4/2/2025 at 9:38 PM, ColDayMan said: I hope that park sparks some serious infill around all the spots left to really give it a canyon-lite feel. I love the mansion and don’t want it to go, but would love to see the east side parking lot filled with a building and the back lot to be gone and turned into green space. Wanted to add, I hate skywalks, but if they converted the nationwide one into this, I wouldn’t be mad.
April 6Apr 6 41 minutes ago, VintageLife said: I love the mansion and don’t want it to go, but would love to see the east side parking lot filled with a building and the back lot to be gone and turned into green space. Wanted to add, I hate skywalks, but if they converted the nationwide one into this, I wouldn’t be mad. You can always move a building ;). Also, skywalks are great in Columbus - our weather is horrible! Especially this time of year.
April 6Apr 6 55 minutes ago, columbus17 said: You can always move a building ;). Also, skywalks are great in Columbus - our weather is horrible! Especially this time of year. Eh, I think the mansion should stay, it’s part of the history of what broad st used to be. It can easily be built around or just kept as is. Columbus weather really isn’t that awful anytime of the year. The rain is avoidable with an umbrella and the snow only comes every so often.
April 6Apr 6 Drove by this today on 3rd, did they change the plans, because it was supposed to reach all the way to 3rd. It ends before the all glass building and isn’t as good as the original plan, does anyone know what happened? These plans had been approved, even with some pushback, so I’m trying to figure out what happened.
April 6Apr 6 16 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Drove by this today on 3rd, did they change the plans, because it was supposed to reach all the way to 3rd. It ends before the all glass building and isn’t as good as the original plan, does anyone know what happened? These plans had been approved, even with some pushback, so I’m trying to figure out what happened. I don't believe they're done yet. The street is still closed for construction.
April 6Apr 6 45 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Drove by this today on 3rd, did they change the plans, because it was supposed to reach all the way to 3rd. It ends before the all glass building and isn’t as good as the original plan, does anyone know what happened? These plans had been approved, even with some pushback, so I’m trying to figure out what happened. I believe Edward's plans on redoing the glass atrium into a few different retails/ restaurant spaces so it sounds like they aren't finished yet. Hopefully it continues to 3rd Street.
April 6Apr 6 48 minutes ago, KyleofColumbus said: I don't believe they're done yet. The street is still closed for construction. I drove by again just a bit ago, and I did see that this time. It was strange because the sections that are done are capped at the end, so I would guess they wanted it to be partially opened, for residents at least, during summer and whole work continues.
April 6Apr 6 1 minute ago, VintageLife said: I drove by again just a bit ago, and I did see that this time. It was strange because the sections that are done are capped at the end, so I would guess they wanted it to be partially opened, for residents at least, during summer and whole work continues. Let's hope so! It would be a shame if they end it without having a main entrance on 3rd. I'm honestly afraid someone is going to vandalize it or homeless start sleeping up there and Edward's eventually closes it off to the general public. I'm not trying to start an argument about that issue but it has crossed my mind. Maybe they have gates at each end that lock after dark to close for the night?
April 6Apr 6 2 minutes ago, sono4315 said: Let's hope so! It would be a shame if they end it without having a main entrance on 3rd. I'm honestly afraid someone is going to vandalize it or homeless start sleeping up there and Edward's eventually closes it off to the general public. I'm not trying to start an argument about that issue but it has crossed my mind. Maybe they have gates at each end that lock after dark to close for the night? Nah it will be fine. People thought the public restrooms that went in would be destroyed in a few days and those are just fine. I’m sure there will be homeless people up there, but that’s life and they deserve to be anywhere in public, just like the rest of us. Of course if problems arise, I’m sure they will be handled.
April 7Apr 7 Seriously though, what happened to the state of architecture in America? Are all the architects on drugs? It's a serious question. If you go overseas, they still build beautiful buildings that last the test of time. Here, it's like a bad acid trip.
April 7Apr 7 It matches the Encova Building in the foreground built in 1973! Honestly, this is really bad imo. I keep thinking what could be done to enhance it just a little bit. Maybe a live green wall or some greenery vines off the side? 😅
April 7Apr 7 7 minutes ago, sono4315 said: It matches the Encova Building in the foreground built in 1973! Honestly, this is really bad imo. I keep thinking what could be done to enhance it just a little bit. Maybe a live green wall or some greenery vines off the side? 😅 Maybe the metal panels will rust in an interesting pattern
April 7Apr 7 3 hours ago, CbusG said: Seriously though, what happened to the state of architecture in America? Are all the architects on drugs? It's a serious question. If you go overseas, they still build beautiful buildings that last the test of time. Here, it's like a bad acid trip. I was in Europe recently and they have their faire share of bad architecture and poorly built buildings. This issue is definitely not unique to here.
April 7Apr 7 38 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: I was in Europe recently and they have their faire share of bad architecture and poorly built buildings. This issue is definitely not unique to here. Yeah, people in the US are only seeing the really nice buildings, they aren’t really sharing the plain simple ones that are also built all over. Also, Columbus doesn’t have the density/rent levels to build super nice architecture. People already complain about rent prices, add a couple $50 million more for architecture and rents are going to be even higher.
April 7Apr 7 10 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Yeah, people in the US are only seeing the really nice buildings, they aren’t really sharing the plain simple ones that are also built all over. Also, Columbus doesn’t have the density/rent levels to build super nice architecture. People already complain about rent prices, add a couple $50 million more for architecture and rents are going to be even higher. Actually the cost difference isn't that large they just don't teach it in schools
April 7Apr 7 5 minutes ago, columbus17 said: Actually the cost difference isn't that large they just don't teach it in schools I disagree. I think quality design is often not valued by the client if it's not revenue-generating so there isn't always incentive for the design team. And a designer that isn't going to labor over making something the best it can be is going to be cheaper than one who does.
April 7Apr 7 27 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Yeah, people in the US are only seeing the really nice buildings, they aren’t really sharing the plain simple ones that are also built all over. Also, Columbus doesn’t have the density/rent levels to build super nice architecture. People already complain about rent prices, add a couple $50 million more for architecture and rents are going to be even higher. I'm just saying a 13 story building with corrugated sheet metal covering the entire building is the least attractive imo. Maybe this is a one off. Let's hope this doesn't become a regular thing. Edited April 7Apr 7 by sono4315
April 7Apr 7 59 minutes ago, PizzaScissors said: I disagree. I think quality design is often not valued by the client if it's not revenue-generating so there isn't always incentive for the design team. And a designer that isn't going to labor over making something the best it can be is going to be cheaper than one who does. It's been studied - numerous cases of it. It's nothing spectacular but is doable - won't look super fancy but will look better...
April 8Apr 8 I know I'm the odd man out on this topic, but I actually kind of liked the Gilbert from this angle.
April 9Apr 9 16 hours ago, Zordon Shumway said: I know I'm the odd man out on this topic, but I actually kind of liked the Gilbert from this angle. Oh man, you can really see how they drew inspiration from the parking garage from this view! 🤢
April 9Apr 9 16 hours ago, Zordon Shumway said: I know I'm the odd man out on this topic, but I actually kind of liked the Gilbert from this angle. I will like the Gilbert from this angle when those surface lots are developed and you can’t see it anymore.
April 16Apr 16 This building is called The Pembroke and as ugly as it is outside, the inside is actually nice and the views are impressive. The windows also look a little bigger from the inside. PHOTO GALLERY OF THE PEMBROKE more pictures in the link
April 16Apr 16 Wait, so this is no longer the Gilbert? No matter what name they put on it, the building is still ugly as hell. Though I will admit, those interior shots are quite nice. "It's not what's on the outside, but what's on the inside that counts?" 🤷♂️
April 16Apr 16 2 minutes ago, CMHOhio said: Wait, so this is no longer the Gilbert? No matter what name they put on it, the building is still ugly as hell. Though I will admit, those interior shots are quite nice. "It's not what's on the outside, but what's on the inside that counts?" 🤷♂️ Yeah the outside will never look good, but in the end, the interior is what actually matters, for people living there at least.
April 16Apr 16 45 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Yeah the outside will never look good, but in the end, the interior is what actually matters, for people living there at least. Until they step onto the balcony and into their black metal box... That last photo really emphasizes that the money and design efforts were put towards the interior on this one.
April 16Apr 16 17 minutes ago, PizzaScissors said: Until they step onto the balcony and into their black metal box... That last photo really emphasizes that the money and design efforts were put towards the interior on this one. No joke. That's one spartan balcony. With the concrete floor and metal railing, think this means tenants can put a barbeque on the balcony? It'd be weird walking along Broad and seeing smoke wafting out of the balconies on this building.
April 16Apr 16 I still think the exterior of the building could be saved as being one of the ugliest buildings in downtown Columbus. Maybe if they did something on the black metal rails on the first floor parking garage like the painting at Fountain Square in Cincinnati. Also I'm screaming for a green wall of some kind against the black!
April 16Apr 16 12 minutes ago, sono4315 said: I still think the exterior of the building could be saved as being one of the ugliest buildings in downtown Columbus. Maybe if they did something on the black metal rails on the first floor parking garage like the painting at Fountain Square in Cincinnati. Also I'm screaming for a green wall of some kind against the black! Oh, I like the idea of a green wall. It would mesh well with the elevated park running alongside the Gilbert/Pembroke/Quasimodo/Etc.
April 17Apr 17 21 hours ago, CMHOhio said: No joke. That's one spartan balcony. With the concrete floor and metal railing, think this means tenants can put a barbeque on the balcony? It'd be weird walking along Broad and seeing smoke wafting out of the balconies on this building. Hmm, I think I'd rather take this though than one of the naked balconies on 88, lol.
April 17Apr 17 1 hour ago, PrestoKinetic said: Hmm, I think I'd rather take this though than one of the naked balconies on 88, lol. Any balcony can be a naked balcony if you try hard enough.
April 17Apr 17 9 minutes ago, PizzaScissors said: Any balcony can be a naked balcony if you try hard enough. Isn't that a New Orleans Mardis Gras thing? :)
April 17Apr 17 27 minutes ago, E Rocc said: Isn't that a New Orleans Mardis Gras thing? :) Bourbon Street ❌ Broad Street ✅
April 23Apr 23 Article from the Dispatch today about the Pembroke opening. Included some highlights below. Article also has a really neat photo of the elevated walkway, but I can’t post pics anymore 🤷🏻♂️ Also like the tile mosaic idea. Should help attenuate the dullness of the building. As others have said, it’s not super pretty, but it would make a great blank canvas for murals and vertical gardens. And glad to hear work is planned to start this year on the next building in the Cap Square project. At full buildout, this will really be a buzzing neighborhood! With rooftop pool and elevated walkway, Downtown's new Pembroke apartments open “In another nod to the past, a 75-foot-long tile mosaic paying tribute to the demolished building — once home to the Columbus NAACP and WCOL radio station — will be installed this summer on the Young Street side of the building. "It will be huge, and tell the history of the building," said Jeff Edwards, president and CEO of Edwards Companies, which developed The Pembroke. The walkway is open now to the PNC Centre and The Pembroke and is expected to be open to the public in October when the final stage is completed, emptying onto the South 3rd Street sidewalk, said Edwards, who also developed Preston Park and the PNC Centre. In addition, the company plans to start construction late this year on a 12-story apartment building on a parking lot on South 4th Street that will also be linked to Preston Park. The building is the next phase of the Edwards Companies' $600-million facelift of Downtown called Capital Square Renaissance Project, which includes multiple buildings.“ https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/real-estate/2025/04/23/a-look-inside-edwards-newest-downtown-apartment-complex-the-pembroke/83175589007/
April 23Apr 23 22 minutes ago, amped91 said: In addition, the company plans to start construction late this year on a 12-story apartment building on a parking lot on South 4th Street that will also be linked to Preston Park. The building is the next phase of the Edwards Companies' $600-million facelift of Downtown called Capital Square Renaissance Project, which includes multiple buildings.“ Awesome! Hopefully we see some updated renderings soon.
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