January 26, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, FudgeRounds said: According to this CBF article, Cameron Mitchell is opening a steakhouse in the PNC building - Downtown steakhouse, new Easton eatery in the works for Cameron Mitchell Restaurants I'm not a big steakhouse patron, but having a steakhouse downtown feels like a good barometer of increased activity/vibrancy. There is a steakhouse at gay and 3rd. I was hoping for something that would be more accessible for everyday people, but I also get it isn’t a cheap location and they need to make money. I’m also not a huge Cameron Mitchell fan. His food is always good and the restaurants are always nice and ran well. His concepts are always basic though and nothing ever stands out to me. Edited January 26, 20232 yr by VintageLife
January 26, 20232 yr I wonder what space specifically at the PNC building CMR will be taking ... the dispatch mentions it being on the lower level opening into the sunken garden - I think that would be the best spot for it For the restaurant pavilion being built along Broad St at ground level I hope the intent is for a more approachable concept to a wider audience that would also drive traffic during the daytime, not just at dinner
January 27, 20232 yr The latest renderings show a pavilion on Broad St - I'll bet that's where the restaurant goes.
January 30, 20232 yr On 1/26/2023 at 10:47 AM, VintageLife said: There is a steakhouse at gay and 3rd. I was hoping for something that would be more accessible for everyday people, but I also get it isn’t a cheap location and they need to make money. I think something upscale is perfect for this location. This is going to be a pretty high profile location with the sunken plaza, (hopefully) the high line, steps away from Cap Square, near the two theatres, and hundreds of DUs within walking distance coming online over the next year or two. It’ll also be a draw to bring people to the core of downtown, either visitors in town for the convention center or inner-ring ‘burb folks wanting a “fancy” night out on the town. Now, the focus needs to be on having more retail and other attractions immediately surrounding to draw in visitors before or after their meals. The aforementioned theatres and high line, Cup o’ Joe is opening nearby at Vera, and IIRC the other Edwards tower is supposed to have ground floor retail as well should all be a good start.
February 28, 20232 yr Lots of updates on timelines for downtown Edwards Cos. projects. Edwards Cos. eyes late 2023 completion of PNC Plaza renovation ”Edwards Cos. expects to wrap up its renovation of the former PNC Plaza in downtown Columbus near the end of this year. Edwards said the office and multifamily portions will likely open by the end of the second quarter of this year, and the restaurant portion will be completed closer to the end of this year or early 2024. Half of the 360,000-square-foot building will remain offices. Edwards Cos. has not yet started leasing on that portion. "We hope to see a ripple effect of positive change, with more investment and development flowing into the neighborhood, strengthening the appeal and potential for growth," Edwards said via email.“ Additionally: - Gay St sculpture should be hung this spring. - the Madison’s/White-Hains rehab will have 48 units and should finish this fall. - 100 N High should finish Q1 2025. No word on the elevated park or the 13-story. https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/02/28/edwards-cos-pnc-plaza-renovation-end-date.html
February 28, 20232 yr 18 minutes ago, amped91 said: Lots of updates on timelines for downtown Edwards Cos. projects. Edwards Cos. eyes late 2023 completion of PNC Plaza renovation ”Edwards Cos. expects to wrap up its renovation of the former PNC Plaza in downtown Columbus near the end of this year. Edwards said the office and multifamily portions will likely open by the end of the second quarter of this year, and the restaurant portion will be completed closer to the end of this year or early 2024. Half of the 360,000-square-foot building will remain offices. Edwards Cos. has not yet started leasing on that portion. "We hope to see a ripple effect of positive change, with more investment and development flowing into the neighborhood, strengthening the appeal and potential for growth," Edwards said via email.“ Additionally: - Gay St sculpture should be hung this spring. - the Madison’s/White-Hains rehab will have 48 units and should finish this fall. - 100 N High should finish Q1 2025. No word on the elevated park or the 13-story. https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/02/28/edwards-cos-pnc-plaza-renovation-end-date.html Great to hear an update on the sculpture. More public art is always good, especially something on a scale like this one.
February 28, 20232 yr Do we know how many residential units the tower is going to have? I can't seem to find a specific number.
February 28, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, cbussoccer said: Do we know how many residential units the tower is going to have? I can't seem to find a specific number. Looks like 113, according to the approved plan:
February 28, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, amped91 said: Lots of updates on timelines for downtown Edwards Cos. projects. Edwards Cos. eyes late 2023 completion of PNC Plaza renovation ”Edwards Cos. expects to wrap up its renovation of the former PNC Plaza in downtown Columbus near the end of this year. Edwards said the office and multifamily portions will likely open by the end of the second quarter of this year, and the restaurant portion will be completed closer to the end of this year or early 2024. Half of the 360,000-square-foot building will remain offices. Edwards Cos. has not yet started leasing on that portion. "We hope to see a ripple effect of positive change, with more investment and development flowing into the neighborhood, strengthening the appeal and potential for growth," Edwards said via email.“ Additionally: - Gay St sculpture should be hung this spring. - the Madison’s/White-Hains rehab will have 48 units and should finish this fall. - 100 N High should finish Q1 2025. No word on the elevated park or the 13-story. https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/02/28/edwards-cos-pnc-plaza-renovation-end-date.html This is really exciting. Between Edwards downtown and Kaufman in Franklinton, these are the 2 standard-bearers for urban development, in my opinion. I was really hoping to see an update on the elevated park; hopefully that's still in the works. I mentioned it earlier upthread, but such an amenity would truly be a unique draw to the downtown core and would add to the desirability of the area.
February 28, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, CMHOhio said: This is really exciting. Between Edwards downtown and Kaufman in Franklinton, these are the 2 standard-bearers for urban development, in my opinion. I was really hoping to see an update on the elevated park; hopefully that's still in the works. I mentioned it earlier upthread, but such an amenity would truly be a unique draw to the downtown core and would add to the desirability of the area. Agreed 100% on elevated park. It’s a slam dunk project that needs to happen and I hope it gets going soon. Downtown needs as many free amenities as possible.
February 28, 20232 yr 30 minutes ago, 614love said: Agreed 100% on elevated park. It’s a slam dunk project that needs to happen and I hope it gets going soon. Downtown needs as many free amenities as possible. I would guess it will start around the time they finish up the PNC building, and the 13 story building.
February 28, 20232 yr 6 hours ago, amped91 said: Lots of updates on timelines for downtown Edwards Cos. projects. Edwards Cos. eyes late 2023 completion of PNC Plaza renovation ”Edwards Cos. expects to wrap up its renovation of the former PNC Plaza in downtown Columbus near the end of this year. Edwards said the office and multifamily portions will likely open by the end of the second quarter of this year, and the restaurant portion will be completed closer to the end of this year or early 2024. Half of the 360,000-square-foot building will remain offices. Edwards Cos. has not yet started leasing on that portion. "We hope to see a ripple effect of positive change, with more investment and development flowing into the neighborhood, strengthening the appeal and potential for growth," Edwards said via email.“ Additionally: - Gay St sculpture should be hung this spring. - the Madison’s/White-Hains rehab will have 48 units and should finish this fall. - 100 N High should finish Q1 2025. No word on the elevated park or the 13-story. https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/02/28/edwards-cos-pnc-plaza-renovation-end-date.html 13 story can be seen from Spring Street now. It's getting quite tall - probably another 4-5 floors if I remember correctly. I'll take pics Thursday if I get a chance.
February 28, 20232 yr Also hope they'll take that ugly PNC sign off the building. It just makes it look like a plastic structure from afar.
March 1, 20232 yr 18 minutes ago, Kriegs said: I’m out of the loop on this 13 story building. Are renderings out yet? It’s already partially built. It looks terrible but hopefully looks better finished than in the renderings. 13-Story Building Downtown Approved
March 1, 20232 yr 16 hours ago, Kriegs said: I’m out of the loop on this 13 story building. Are renderings out yet? Yes they've been - if its the one that's bottom half is just the garage. It's ugly - you don't want to look at it trust me.
March 1, 20232 yr 12 hours ago, 17thState said: Yeah, after you see the rendering you'll wish you were back out of the loop. I’m so confused how Edwards is so hit or miss, there is no in between. How someone can design the gay street brownstones and the decent 15 story on high, but also building the Nicholas and this 13 story is insane to me.
March 1, 20232 yr 40 minutes ago, VintageLife said: I’m so confused how Edwards is so hit or miss, there is no in between. How someone can design the gay street brownstones and the decent 15 story on high, but also building the Nicholas and this 13 story is insane to me. It shouldn't come as a shock that the Nicholas and the 195 E Broad are both the same architect, Kephart. I will say Kephart did also do The Citizens Building renovation BUT the structure was there so we can't give them too much credit on that one. They have a lot of projects around Denver and frankly, they're all pretty bad as well, very much a throw materials at it for visual interest kind of firm. I am not sure who did Edwards other stuff like Neighborhood Launch but bring them back and give Kephart the boot. https://kephart.com/architectural-portfolio/the-nicholas/ https://kephart.com/architectural-portfolio/195-east-broad-street/
March 1, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, DevolsDance said: It shouldn't come as a shock that the Nicholas and the 195 E Broad are both the same architect, Kephart. I will say Kephart did also do The Citizens Building renovation BUT the structure was there so we can't give them too much credit on that one. They have a lot of projects around Denver and frankly, they're all pretty bad as well, very much a throw materials at it for visual interest kind of firm. I am not sure who did Edwards other stuff like Neighborhood Launch but bring them back and give Kephart the boot. https://kephart.com/architectural-portfolio/the-nicholas/ https://kephart.com/architectural-portfolio/195-east-broad-street/ Yeah, it’s pretty sad what some people can put out and still get future jobs.
March 2, 20232 yr On 2/28/2023 at 3:04 PM, CMHOhio said: This is really exciting. Between Edwards downtown and Kaufman in Franklinton, these are the 2 standard-bearers for urban development, in my opinion. I was really hoping to see an update on the elevated park; hopefully that's still in the works. I mentioned it earlier upthread, but such an amenity would truly be a unique draw to the downtown core and would add to the desirability of the area. Now I wanna see Kaufman try his hand at a downtown high rise 🤑
March 2, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, amped91 said: I like the Commons building. 250 doesn’t really look unique. I would say out of what has been built downtown, these are probably the two best looking to me. Kaufman’s earlier stuff wasn’t as good as gravity, so I would think any major new stuff downtown, would look more along the lines of the gravity stuff. It will be interesting to see if he ventures into downtown or just stays mostly in Franklinton. Would love to see him do a 20+ story.
March 2, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, VintageLife said: I would say out of what has been built downtown, these are probably the two best looking to me. Kaufman’s earlier stuff wasn’t as good as gravity, so I would think any major new stuff downtown, would look more along the lines of the gravity stuff. It will be interesting to see if he ventures into downtown or just stays mostly in Franklinton. Would love to see him do a 20+ story. That’s what I’d meant in my last comment. I wanna see him try a 20+ too
March 2, 20232 yr 9 hours ago, Pablo said: ^Kaufman built these two with Daimler (I think) Oh so some of the best looking new constructions. He definitely needs to do more work there then.
March 2, 20232 yr 9 hours ago, amped91 said: I like the Commons building. 250 doesn’t really look unique. It's iconic and has good massing.
March 3, 20232 yr People actually think the building on the Commons looks good? I mean the side facing the park isn't a total miss, the rest of the building is horrendous. I'll bet the Edward's building on Broad ends up looking better than this: 250 High isn't too bad though. It's not super unique, but at least it looks like they actually finished the siding of the building.
March 3, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: People actually think the building on the Commons looks good? I mean the side facing the park isn't a total miss, the rest of the building is horrendous. I'll bet the Edward's building on Broad ends up looking better than this: 250 High isn't too bad though. It's not super unique, but at least it looks like they actually finished the siding of the building. The side facing the park is really well done imo. They kinda gave up on the 3rd and rich sides. I hate those desolate balcony strips jutting out. That said I think it's an overall win and I think texture on the paneling is unique. I really like 250 as well, it fits that site perfectly and added some height along with some dimension. Infinitely better than the two55, river south, and Columbus commons apartments it's next to.
March 3, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: 'll bet the Edward's building on Broad ends up looking better than this: You are a brave soul with this statement. If the edwards building turns out looking better than this, I will be elated.
March 3, 20232 yr I'll take a dozen more 80 Commons over 250 S high. But that's largely becuase I'm not a fan of the 250 S high panels, and the randomized punched in balconies compounded by the color they chose. Kind of like the new gravity Tower. The gravity tower would be 100% better if they used the same stone texture 80 Commons did. Both generally lack great treatment of ground level aesthetic so that's a wash for me too.
March 3, 20232 yr Off topic but before I moved away from Columbus I looked at the units at 80 on the commons and they were great but the balconies jutting out made you feel like you were being made to walk the plank and weren’t pleasant to be on. I looked at 250 S High after and I didn’t like the units but the recessed balconies were much nicer than being all exposed like in the other building. Either way any new buildings like this downtown would be great but I’d hope for better massing than 80 on the commons and better architecture than the Edwards project. Why wouldn’t a local developer want to hire a local arch firm and put their money back into the local community instead of sending business to Denver? If you’re going to go so far might as well use a good firm.
March 3, 20232 yr It's not my favorite but I'll admit I actually prefer the borg cube side of 80 Commons vs the park-facing 😬 Agree though that the balconies are desolate and understandably seem like they receive little use, the recessed ones on 250 are much more hospitable The original proposal was taller, 17 or 18 story?, and looked better overall IMO Also this discussion is getting us off-topic from the PNC Plaza and might belong better elsewhere Edited March 3, 20232 yr by NW24HX
March 4, 20232 yr I really dislike the "Centre" instead of "Center". Please! This ain't no ancient British city here! So obnoxiously pretentious. So how are they progressing on the park?
March 6, 20232 yr On 3/4/2023 at 2:00 PM, GCrites80s said: I think that "Centre" business is a relic of the metric system conversion days I remember when we were converting...then you know who got in power. We should have converted decades ago. At least this does not have "The Tower at" or "Ye Olde" or "The sky residences and office suites at", etc. The actual conversion and the elevated park look like they will be really nice though.
March 10, 20232 yr The Downtown Cbus Insta account posted a couple cool pics of the progress on the sunken garden. https://www.instagram.com/p/CplYSUhP-H4/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= I’m hoping work starts soon on the elevated park now.
March 10, 20232 yr ^ Quote from the end of the post: "This building is just one of the many projects developer and Downtown champion Jeff Edwards is currently working on — stay tuned for more big projects that will shift the Downtown landscape." I wonder if that means Edwards has another big project that hasn't been announced yet...
March 10, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: ^ Quote from the end of the post: "This building is just one of the many projects developer and Downtown champion Jeff Edwards is currently working on — stay tuned for more big projects that will shift the Downtown landscape." I wonder if that means Edwards has another big project that hasn't been announced yet... I took it to mean 100 N High, but I hope it’s something new!
March 11, 20232 yr Okay I was skeptical of the sunken plaza but I'll admit I was wrong and I think it will actually be great The activation with the restaurant on the lower level especially helps. It will really have a 'big city' feel
March 11, 20232 yr I may have forgotten this, but do we know of any plans or is it part of the current scope of work to also renovate the Galleria portion which fronts onto 3rd? I wonder if Edwards will look to attract new retail tenants for the existing vacant spaces or if he'll pursue a larger redevelopment. That could be the next big announcement we hear
March 11, 20232 yr 50 minutes ago, NW24HX said: I may have forgotten this, but do we know of any plans or is it part of the current scope of work to also renovate the Galleria portion which fronts onto 3rd? I wonder if Edwards will look to attract new retail tenants for the existing vacant spaces or if he'll pursue a larger redevelopment. That could be the next big announcement we hear Concept for a hotel was pitched a few years ago. I'd personally like to see a tower though.
March 12, 20232 yr On 3/10/2023 at 8:30 PM, NW24HX said: I may have forgotten this, but do we know of any plans or is it part of the current scope of work to also renovate the Galleria portion which fronts onto 3rd? I wonder if Edwards will look to attract new retail tenants for the existing vacant spaces or if he'll pursue a larger redevelopment. That could be the next big announcement we hear I can’t recall anything being proposed for it yet. Interesting you asked about it now though. Because I’d noticed some construction going on on the second floor of the 10 N High building. I was curious about who was going in there, so I looked it up in the portal, and apparently the construction is for the coworking company Regus. Who happens to currently take up a decent amount of space in the Third St Galleria. This could definitely just be a simple expansion/relocation for Regus, in which case, this is just a nothing burger. But it definitely makes me wonder, too, if this move is anticipation of some sort of remodel/redevelopment? I know I would definitely be in favor of this building being replaced, or at least substantially renovated so that it’s more open and aesthetically pleasing.
March 13, 20232 yr 9 hours ago, amped91 said: I can’t recall anything being proposed for it yet. Interesting you asked about it now though. Because I’d noticed some construction going on on the second floor of the 10 N High building. I was curious about who was going in there, so I looked it up in the portal, and apparently the construction is for the coworking company Regus. Who happens to currently take up a decent amount of space in the Third St Galleria. This could definitely just be a simple expansion/relocation for Regus, in which case, this is just a nothing burger. But it definitely makes me wonder, too, if this move is anticipation of some sort of remodel/redevelopment? I know I would definitely be in favor of this building being replaced, or at least substantially renovated so that it’s more open and aesthetically pleasing. I'm 99% sure that parcel is getting redeveloped. It's prime real estate and has been explored before. Wouldn't be surprised to see another larger development there either - Edwards seems to have interest in building taller buildings recently.
March 13, 20232 yr 35 minutes ago, columbus17 said: I'm 99% sure that parcel is getting redeveloped. It's prime real estate and has been explored before. Wouldn't be surprised to see another larger development there either - Edwards seems to have interest in building taller buildings recently. Hopefully with a different architect this time.
March 13, 20232 yr 10 hours ago, columbus17 said: I'm 99% sure that parcel is getting redeveloped. It's prime real estate and has been explored before. Wouldn't be surprised to see another larger development there either - Edwards seems to have interest in building taller buildings recently. I hope so. The building currently there is an eyesore. I’d love to see something bigger there, and something decent to fill up all the parking lots on the block. Although I thought it’s been said on here in the past that the lots are owned by the Chamber of Commerce. Edit: or maybe it was the Wolf’s? Either way, I’m surprised it’s been nearly three years since we’ve heard anything about the plans to develop those lots…
March 13, 20232 yr Unpopular opinion, apparently. I like the galleria building. With a refresh, maybe some sort of expansion on the back half, it would look like a regular museum of modern art or something constructed for public use. Which, I have always desired a dedicated museum of modern art but this could be something else redesigned for public enjoyment. Is it the best use of downtown space, no? But it also one of the few glass dominated structures and has potential within itself. Especially being tied in to the elevated park, a creative seemless integration into an atrium with a restaurant etc etc. You get the idea. While small, and a complete reinvention of the interior needed, there's potential in it and yes, in some ways, architectural significance. Maybe this becomes Edwards private art museum similar to tue Pizutti Collection. I didn't mind the removal of the addition from the Broad side since it looked awkward juxtaposed so narrowly and the third side was remaining. Let the adamant opposition of defending the Galleria begin. Lol Edited March 13, 20232 yr by DTCL11
March 13, 20232 yr I quite liked the overall composition of the broad street atrium and galleria volumes together, but I think having already removed the larger half (also the one with the more impressive modernist interior space) I don't mind the removal of, or expect Edwards to lean towards preserving, the 3rd street galleria side structure What I do hope any new proposal preserves (in spirit) is the overall modern aesthetic (no faux history next to the actually historic Episcopal church please), and the active retail uses facing the street. We need more ground floor action 360 degrees around Capitol Square
April 6, 20232 yr A “few” pics I took on my walk today. They’re adding a second temporary elevator on the east side of the building and are running utility lines in the garage. Looks like we’re about 1-2 stories (minus the small corner level) from the structure being completed.
April 6, 20232 yr Wasn't this building supposed to be 13-stories? It looks like it's going to end up being ~15-stories...
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