February 7, 20205 yr Valor Acres sits in a prime location with a 30-minute drive time to the majority of Northeast Ohio and in between two major airports. VA was designed to blend work, shop, live, stay and play together. So apparently there's no issue having "luxury housing" and mixed-use in close proximity to SW's R&D?
February 7, 20205 yr 22 minutes ago, surfohio said: Valor Acres sits in a prime location with a 30-minute drive time to the majority of Northeast Ohio and in between two major airports. VA was designed to blend work, shop, live, stay and play together. So apparently there's no issue having "luxury housing" and mixed-use in close proximity to SW's R&D? A 30 minute drive to find something to do and to the airport is a prime location? I think I have a misunderstanding of prime location.
February 7, 20205 yr Again, redirecting from the Superior Arts District thread.... 1 hour ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said: Sorry I get bummed when the suburbs continue poaching jobs from the city. That's literally a fact in this case. Get back to me in about five years when all phases of this project are built and the spin-off elements of this are better known. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 7, 20205 yr I hope that the owner of the land on Scranton Peninsula, missed the email they sent them about developing on their land. I say this because I hope he feels like COMPLETE SH*T for missing this opportunity. YOU HAD SHERWIN FREAKIN WILLIAMS TRYING TO DEVELOP ON YOUR LAND!!! A FREAKING FORTUNE 500 COMPANY WITH DEEP POCKETS THAT IS CLIMBING TOWARDS FORTUNE 100!!! IT DOESN'T GET BETTER THAN THAT!!
February 7, 20205 yr 8 minutes ago, MyPhoneDead said: I hope that the owner of the land on Scranton Peninsula, missed the email they sent them about developing on their land. I say this because I hope he feels like COMPLETE SH*T for missing this opportunity. YOU HAD SHERWIN FREAKIN WILLIAMS TRYING TO DEVELOP ON YOUR LAND!!! A FREAKING FORTUNE 500 COMPANY WITH DEEP POCKETS THAT IS CLIMBING TOWARDS FORTUNE 100!!! IT DOESN'T GET BETTER THAN THAT!! If they found something while developing it, he has potential liability that can easily exceed the value of the land. Many people underestimate the completely chilling impact CERCLA can have on brownfield development.
February 7, 20205 yr Do a Judge Krenzler. Post fake eviction notices with a 30-day clear-out period and a phone number that goes to a pre-paid cell phone. If anyone calls, tell them the property sold. Then, a week after the 30 days are up, start demolishing buildings at 10 pm and see how long it takes before anyone notices. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 7, 20205 yr Seeing how low-rise-sprawly SHW intends for their R&D buildings, perhaps now something a bit more conducive to good urban design can go into that section of Scranton....someday. A silver lining?
February 7, 20205 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 8, 20205 yr The article said the warrensville site was 80 acres - wonder if SHW ever considered putting the R&D site there or, if not, why not?
February 8, 20205 yr It's actually 100 acres. The PD missed a parcel. And most of the site is undeveloped. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 8, 20205 yr 59 minutes ago, Potamus said: The article said the warrensville site was 80 acres - wonder if SHW ever considered putting the R&D site there or, if not, why not? SORRY I through that we was talking about the Brecksville VA site... Its 100 acres BUT only about 80 or so acres is developable because of wetlands and because of required land needed for water retention basins. Edited February 8, 20205 yr by Larry1962 Error
February 9, 20205 yr I have to think the city pitched an Opportunity Corridor site to S-W for the R&D center. It would be nice to know how the thinking went on that. I'm really disappointed that little seems to be happening on the OC. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
February 9, 20205 yr 4 hours ago, Dougal said: I have to think the city pitched an Opportunity Corridor site to S-W for the R&D center. It would be nice to know how the thinking went on that. I'm really disappointed that little seems to be happening on the OC. How much continuous land is available? I would imagine less than the amount Sherwin-Williams was looking for.
February 9, 20205 yr The city is taking 10 acres for the police headquarters. I wonder if they had the sense to offer that land to S-W to keep them in the city.
February 10, 20205 yr Brecksville/DiGeronimos now looking to acquire the parcel of land between the VA property and 77. Owned by Dalad. Interesting this was originally discussed a couple years ago, but they couldn't strike a deal. Now it seems SW is taking so much space, they feel confident to move on the adjacent parcel
February 10, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, gottaplan said: Brecksville/DiGeronimos now looking to acquire the parcel of land between the VA property and 77. Owned by Dalad. Interesting this was originally discussed a couple years ago, but they couldn't strike a deal. Now it seems SW is taking so much space, they feel confident to move on the adjacent parcel Looks like it's a done deal: https://www.cleveland.com/business/2020/02/valor-acres-home-of-proposed-sherwin-williams-rd-center-nearly-doubles-in-size-with-brecksville-land-purchase.html
February 10, 20205 yr On 2/7/2020 at 2:12 PM, skiwest said: So what is the alternative - let ithe property stay undeveloped forever? That happens, the way CERCLA is written. There may also be some geological stability issues they don't want becoming common knowledge.
February 11, 20205 yr I suspect you are correct. There's more to that peninsula than meets the eye. Edited February 11, 20205 yr by Frmr CLEder
October 23, 20204 yr I'm hearing SW wants to have plans before the Brecksville Planning Committee in the next month and shovels in the ground starting with underground utilities before the end of the year...one might speculate the preliminary plans for the downtown HQ could be on a similar timetable, at least in regard to to initial design plans.
October 23, 20204 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 24, 20204 yr 3 hours ago, KJP said: I like Brecksville, it’s a beautiful suburb - congrats to them. Have to admit though, I had that “Man, how awesome it would’ve been” thought when I saw this R&D facility update that we all knew was going to happen. Yeah, the Scranton Peninsula story would’ve been amazing. I hope that that land still yields a new great urban neighborhood in my lifetime. (Unfortunately, I’m not young!) The good news is that the Greater Cleveland area has a great future vis a vis the Sherwin Williams empire. Edited October 24, 20204 yr by CleveFan
October 26, 20204 yr On 10/23/2020 at 10:37 PM, CleveFan said: I like Brecksville, it’s a beautiful suburb - congrats to them. Have to admit though, I had that “Man, how awesome it would’ve been” thought when I saw this R&D facility update that we all knew was going to happen. Yeah, the Scranton Peninsula story would’ve been amazing. I hope that that land still yields a new great urban neighborhood in my lifetime. (Unfortunately, I’m not young!) The good news is that the Greater Cleveland area has a great future vis a vis the Sherwin Williams empire. Totally. And I know speculation and discussion has gone all over the place with how a downtown R&D facility could've worked, but I'll say when I was biking Ohio-Erie trail, I went past a PPG facility and it's like a friggin compound - fences, posted signs, all that. I don't know that it's necessary but still, I'd rather a bombproof/espionage proof facility be out there. It sucks it's not in the city proper but at least tax dollars stay in the county. I know folks think them in Brecksville is an entire failure, but I'll chalk it up as a small victory that tax is staying in CuyCo vs sprawling to Summit/Medina like so many other corps have done.
October 26, 20204 yr ^^^119 Acres in Brecksville- that's a huge site. I don't know if there's 119 contiguous acres available in the City. I'm happy that they're staying local, that they're building their headquarters on the Jacobs Lot (FINALLY), and that we can expect spin-off projects downtown. It's a win for everyone involved.
October 26, 20204 yr Brecksville may have won this battle with scoring the R&D compound, but Cleveland is still winning the war - The VA a few years ago, and soon Cross Country means many more jobs and income tax going to Cleveland from Brecksville than have gone the other way. Put into that perspective, I can't be upset with them getting this.
November 6, 20204 yr FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 6, 2020 More hints about the future Sherwin-Williams HQ+R&D Every few days I sift through hundreds of newly filed Cleveland Building Department records to see if something new and interesting was posted. Invariably there's something worth nothing there, like the filing yesterday by Parma-based Gazde LLC for an "ice cream/coffee shop with axe-throwing" at 5807 Detroit Ave., next to the temporarily closed Happy Dog bar. With knowledge that there are renderings out there for the new Sherwin-Williams headquarters, I saw a filing for "140 Public Square" and almost had a heart attack. That was before I remembered the new SHW HQ is probably going to have an address of somewhere between 1 and 33 Public Square. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/11/more-hints-about-future-sherwin.html Edited November 6, 20204 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 27, 20213 yr Sherwin-Williams new R&D facility gets an early approval A site plan for Sherwin-Williams Co.'s new R&D campus was unanimously approved by the Brecksville Planning Commission Thursday night The plan will next go before Brecksville’s City Council on Sept. 7. The scope of the meeting was limited to the preliminary site plan’s layout, mass grading, building pads and temporary fencing. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cleveland/news/2021/08/27/sherwin-williams-r-d-826.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
August 27, 20213 yr Interesting-although predictable-that there is very little discussion of the SHW research center on the board even though it is a major development in Cuyahoga County.
August 27, 20213 yr 58 minutes ago, Htsguy said: Interesting-although predictable-that there is very little discussion of the SHW research center on the board even though it is a major development in Cuyahoga County. 👍 Please tell us what you know so we can all comment on your new facts and photos
October 20, 20213 yr https://corporate.sherwin-williams.com/media-center/building-our-future.html Ground Breaking is set for Friday Oct 22, 2021 Edited October 20, 20213 yr by osu4brutus03
October 22, 20213 yr More info on groundbreaking. https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/local/cuyahoga-county/sherwin-williams-groundbreaking-brecksville-global-research-and-development-center/95-1a4af4f5-01e8-4d2e-9367-d52930228b1d
October 22, 20213 yr I don't check this thread much but will Sherwin Williams ever pull Valspar employees to Cleveland, I was curious if that future expansion site is reserved for them in the future when they are ready. Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk
July 29, 20231 yr https://vimeo.com/849493546 Global R & D Center topping off video from Sherwin Williams.
July 29, 20231 yr 5 hours ago, Silent Matt said: https://vimeo.com/849493546 Global R & D Center topping off video from Sherwin Williams. My hovercraft is full of eels
July 30, 20231 yr This is rightfully the least cared about large scale project in UO history. Such a dumbass decision by SHW
August 2, 20231 yr On 7/29/2023 at 3:42 PM, cadmen said: Still wish it had been built somewhere near Tower City. Or Cleveland in general. Bunch of vacant land that they could have used.
November 5, 20231 yr On 7/30/2023 at 12:57 AM, marty15 said: This is rightfully the least cared about large scale project in UO history. Such a dumbass decision by SHW What @marty15said….
December 1, 20231 yr Cross-posted in the SHW HQ thread "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 1, 20231 yr Glad you are dropping the story early so Minnesota officials have more time to fight to keep the jobs.
January 3, 20241 yr the new ramps off I-77 at Miller in Brecksville which were added to support(?) the Valor Acres development opened last week. Still need sidewalks, grading, traffic signals, etc. But it's open. So far the Valor Acres development hasn't added anything in terms of tenants except Digeronimos moving their headquarters there from Independence. Not exactly sure how many jobs that will be yet as the core construction operations will stay over at Schaff road. The residential apartments and townhomes are occupied, not sure what the leasing is. The apartment building had a percentage to be used for SW employees though, which is still a ways off yet. Possible other tenants I'm hearing about - some type of hotel/conf center, a boutique grocery (Trader Joes/Mustard seed possibly) and an upscale restaurant or two (hearing talk of some italian place coming soon). Otherwise, the former Cross Country Mortgage facility still sits vacant across the street. No other tenants have been announced. Pretty slow considering the hype of this development initially.
June 19, 2024Jun 19 HQ and R&D updates (with links to videos) https://s1.view.sfmc-marketing.com/view_email.aspx?qs=d024e4bfec0ab029adcb08eaf9d6ef18bc26c4e46597f031026e34b2d440b4d45c5c95ac04312246bfd03a32e0aceecfed886d974eef5bd4cb3596324dcdab99b6e550f5829458aa12cf15482ff3d229 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 24, 2024Jun 24 Some photos from yesterday - R&D and Valor Acres builds. R&D Valor Acres Edited June 24, 2024Jun 24 by GISguy
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