Well, I feel alot safer walking the streets of Cleveland now that I know that they are behind bars.

 

well gangbangers and dealers don't advertise in scene magazine......yet

And when they do, Cleveland's Finest will be right there, ready to make their move.

Well first I have to say, aren't ALL those ads for hookers?  This is suprising? News making?

 

Second why are our tax dollars being wasted on a big sting to catch a misdomenant? Lets work on felons.

 

Third I am tired of suburbanites coming in and sullying the city  :-D. 

 

 

 

While we're at it, let's legalize the hookers and let Jeff Jacobs build a whorehouse next to the new casino in the Powerhouse.  It would be handy for all those new Stonebridge residents. 

 

Here are my votes for the names of the Cleveland's red-light district:

1.  Crooked River Hookers

2.  "Burning" River Ranch

 

Any others??  :)

Hows about:

 

- The "Whore on the Shore" District.

- The "Goin' Down in C-Town" District.

- The "Feel Cheery on Lake Erie" District

- The "We put the "HO" in Ohio" District

- The "Cum back again" District

Folks, we can stop with the hypothetical names for a red-light district. Thanks.

back on subject, i caught the tail end of something (on the news) that happened at what I think was the Great Lakes Brewery?

 

Any details?

what channel? last night?

Channel 19 (woio.com) has something in their video section about a "brazen carjacking in Ohio City". I can't check it at work, though.

there was a carjacking in the parking lot by GLBC.

 

two guys were getting out of their cars at 9p sunday night and were jumped by 3 people - 2 of which pointed semi-automatic weapons at them.  the carjackers took the jetta, phones, wallets, etc.

 

no one apparently saw it. 

 

this has happened in this lot before.  too easy to quickly get away south of lorain or in west ohio city side streets.  surprising that GLBC or wine bar or parking lot doesn't at least have a couple of cameras here.

boy Sunday night is so dead down there too. Isn't GLBC closed Sunday ?(curses to them by the way)

This is totally irrelevant but I wonder why they parked in the lot, there is plenty of street parking on Sundays

Folks, we can stop with the hypothetical names for a red-light district. Thanks.

 

Just when I thought there may be some humor on this site.............

Folks, we can stop with the hypothetical names for a red-light district. Thanks.

 

Just when I thought there may be some humor on this site.............

 

There's a point when it just becomes gross and obscene.

surprising that GLBC or wine bar or parking lot doesn't at least have a couple of cameras here.

 

They do. Last year when those suburbanites were tagging in the city and saying "it's a ghetto anyway" -- they were caught because a security guard at GLBC was watching a closed circuit monitor and saw the kids tag the brewery's garage door. The guard called the cops who responded in less than two minutes (nice job CPD!). But I don't know if the camera was pointed in the wrong direction and didn't catch the carjacking, or the guard wasn't watching the monitors when it happened.

 

Either way, carjackings are pretty routine in the Second District. The only difference with this latest one was that it happened at a more notable, popular location. Sadly, that makes it more newsworthy.

 

 

Either way, carjackings are pretty routine in the Second District. The only difference with this latest one was that it happened at a more notable, popular location. Sadly, that makes it more newsworthy.

 

its only newsworthy when it affects suburbanites.

 

 

Either way, carjackings are pretty routine in the Second District. The only difference with this latest one was that it happened at a more notable, popular location. Sadly, that makes it more newsworthy.

 

Pope, you aint never lied!  Quote of the year material!

 

its only newsworthy when it affects suburbanites.

From the 1/11/07 PD:

 

 

44 indicted in gang, drug crackdown

18-month investigation targeted high-crime area

Thursday, January 11, 2007

Mike Tobin

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

When Cleveland police took out a street map and charted where the most serious crimes occurred, their decision about which gang to target in 2005 was easy.

 

With colored dots denoting each murder, robbery and drug arrest, the area from East 70th to East 79th streets between St. Clair and Superior avenues, became a jumble of green, red and blue circles.

 

...

 

To reach this Plain Dealer reporter:

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http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1168508069313960.xml&coll=2

 

All from the 1/14/07 PD:

 

 

Issues still surround use-of-force probes

Sunday, January 14, 2007

Gabriel Baird

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

The U.S. Department of Justice launched an investigation in 2000 into allegations that Cleveland police routinely violated people's civil rights.

 

Two years later, federal investigators found systemic problems with how police scrutinize officers who use force on suspects. In a letter to the city, the chief of the Justice Department's Special Litigation Section criticized police, suggesting that police investigations into the incidents were biased and incomplete.

 

...

 

To reach this Plain Dealer reporter:

[email protected], 216-999-4141

 

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/116876726211290.xml&coll=2

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Cleveland police always justify using force

Sunday, January 14, 2007

Gabriel Baird

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

Cleveland police supervisors reviewed 4,427 incidents in which police used non-deadly force in the last four years and determined the officers were justified in every case.

 

The only way police could rule that every single use-of-force incident was justified, some experts said, was to rubber-stamp rather than to investigate them.

 

...

 

To reach this Plain Dealer reporter:

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http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/116876845311290.xml&coll=2

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About this story

Sunday, January 14, 2007

 

The Plain Dealer used public-records laws to obtain more than 238,000 electronic records and 2,000 paper records from Cleveland Police and the Office of Professional Standards.

 

These records included arrests, complaints and uses of force from Jan. 1, 2003, to Sept. 9, 2006. The databases were joined and analyzed.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/116876835011290.xml&coll=2

 

From the 1/19/07 PD:

 

 

System to track police conduct

City hopes to spot problem officers

Friday, January 19, 2007

Gabriel Baird

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

After promising it for nearly seven years, Cleveland police are beginning a program to identify problem officers.

 

The system will alert supervisors when officers receive complaints, abuse sick time or break department rules more frequently than other officers. It also will track uses of force, which include any struggle with a suspect, even if no one is hurt.

 

...

 

To reach this Plain Dealer reporter:

[email protected], 216-999-4141

 

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/116920806749660.xml&coll=2

 

From the 1/25/07 PD:

 

 

Cleveland officer investigated on claim he beat suspect

Drug suspect suffered cuts, bruises

Thursday, January 25, 2007

Mark Puente

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

A Cleveland police officer is under investigation over allegations he beat a suspected drug dealer to find out where he hid a package of cocaine.

 

Narcotics Detective Jamal Ansari, a 22-year-veteran, is accused of dragging Damon Alexander, while handcuffed, around his Shaker Heights home last April until Alexander told him where he hid the cocaine.

 

...

 

Plain Dealer reporter Gabriel Baird contributed to this story.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1169717595242570.xml&coll=2

 

From the 1/27/07 PD:

 

 

White officer gets $800,000 in racial-bias suit

Saturday, January 27, 2007

Jim Nichols

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

A federal court jury awarded $800,000 to a white police officer Friday, finding the city of Cleveland racially discriminated against him after he shot a black youth.

 

Patrolman Edward Lentz Jr. won the verdict five years after he wounded 12-year-old Lorenzo Locklear to end a confrontation that began outside the home of Mayor-elect Jane Campbell's Shaker Square home.

 

...

 

To reach this Plain Dealer reporter:

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http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1169890647197260.xml&coll=2

 

From the 2/2/07 PD:

 

 

Cleveland man, 23, dies just hours after arrest

Friday, February 02, 2007

Patrick O'Donnell

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

A 23-year-old Cleveland man died in police custody Thursday, just hours after his arrest.

 

Dewayne Carter died at St. Vincent Charity Hospital about 1 p.m.

 

After a traffic stop on the East Side just before 11 a.m., Cleveland police arrested him on possible charges of possessing drugs and criminal tools and of tampering with evidence.

 

...

 

To reach this Plain Dealer reporter:

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http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1170410173299160.xml&coll=2

 

From the 3/1/07 PD:

 

 

City weighs ban on police racial profiling

Thursday, March 01, 2007

Susan Vinella

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

The chairman of Cleveland City Council's Public Safety Committee intends to introduce a law to eliminate racial profiling by city police.

 

Councilman Kevin Conwell said his committee is likely to propose routine monitoring of traffic stops. One option, he said, would be to require police to log the race and gender of drivers and pedestrians they stop. The law might also require an independent expert to analyze who is being stopped and how often.

 

"It's a very sensitive" issue, he said Wednesday.

 

...

 

To reach this Plain Dealer reporter:

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http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/117274218073470.xml&coll=2

 

Yesterday morning was another "Lights out on public square". So, Fuck you Cleveland Police for not setting up at least one patrolman to direct traffic and endangering my life.

 

(sorry, this is twice now, and pathetic)

Yesterday morning was another "Lights out on public square". So, Fuck you Cleveland Police for not setting up at least one patrolman to direct traffic and endangering my life.

 

(sorry, this is twice now, and pathetic)

 

send an email to Cimperman (councilman) now!. [email protected]

Yesterday morning was another "Lights out on public square". So, Fuck you Cleveland Police for not setting up at least one patrolman to direct traffic and endangering my life.

 

(sorry, this is twice now, and pathetic)

 

send an email to Cimperman (councilman) now!. [email protected]

 

just sent it!

call the following publis service and utilities offices.

 

Julius Ciacci  216-664-2444

Jomarie Wasik 216-644-2231

Kevin Conwell (Chair, city councils public safety committee) 216-664-4252

 

 

^ I recommended cimperman, b/c his office has more pull with the various players than John Q Public's  (aka Pope, or you or me)outcry -sorry but true-, plus they document all the calls/emails that come in, follow up with complainer, and it is in writing.

^ I recommended cimperman, b/c his office has more pull with the various players than John Q Public's  (aka Pope, or you or me)outcry -sorry but true-, plus they document all the calls/emails that come in, follow up with complainer, and it is in writing.

 

I should say, IN ADDITION, to emailing ciperman, call the people listed below on Cleveland City council.

 

I'm a firm believer in covering all the bases, so I don't think it hurts to call/email more than one person.  Hell, I would add the mayor.  Public Square is suppose to be the heart of the city, not the darkest part of the city.

I complained last week, b/c the superior roadway bus stop, as well as other adjacent stops on the square were pitch black . The fact that I had to wait 30 + minutes for a bus to get over the superior bridge is a whole other issue (about 4 eventually came bunched up together of course). More blacked out stops on the other side (a drug dealers delight the NW corner of 25th/Detroit). On an upside, the NE corner of Detroit/w.25 was lit up like a stadium.

 

PS never would have taken a bus short distance like that but too much luggage to carry over unshoveled sidewalks (is that another issue??)

cleveland does have a law on the books requiring property owners to provide a 5' cleared walkway on their property.  is it enforced?  ummm, i don't think so.  perhaps another call to the councilman?  if frank wants this to be a city of choice, there has to be some accountability for basic things like cleared sidewalks and streetlights.

 

also, everytime i call CPP about lights, they seem to blame it on the construction. well, OK, but then string some wires above ground for the 3 weeks that you are working underground.  it is unacceptable and unsafe to have so many circuits off downtown, not to mention the other burned out fixtures.

 

the lights on e13 and the area around the greyhound station has been off for a week.  pitch black.  wouldn't want to walk that area, and feel bad for visitors around playhouse square.

 

anothe issue: why aren't the crosswalk signs activated on euclid?  i know they are changing some of the lights over for construction, but the city/RTA should make sure they hook up the crosswalk signs as well.  it is sort of a slap in the face that only the cars have priority on downtown streets.

cleveland does have a law on the books requiring property owners to provide a 5' cleared walkway on their property.  is it enforced?  ummm, i don't think so.  perhaps another call to the councilman?  if frank wants this to be a city of choice, there has to be some accountability for basic things like cleared sidewalks and streetlights.

 

also, everytime i call CPP about lights, they seem to blame it on the construction. well, OK, but then string some wires above ground for the 3 weeks that you are working underground.  it is unacceptable and unsafe to have so many circuits off downtown, not to mention the other burned out fixtures.

 

the lights on e13 and the area around the greyhound station has been off for a week.  pitch black.  wouldn't want to walk that area, and feel bad for visitors around playhouse square.

 

anothe issue: why aren't the crosswalk signs activated on euclid?  i know they are changing some of the lights over for construction, but the city/RTA should make sure they hook up the crosswalk signs as well.  it is sort of a slap in the face that only the cars have priority on downtown streets.

 

Have you written anyone about this?  If you have a draft or a copy of that letter, post it here, others can then personalize, cut/paste and send it off.  there is more power in numbers.

re: the ice chunks...is rta the culprit if they are right where you get on/off the bus? Or the city? I was carrying luggage and there was mounds of iced over plowed snow right at the exit and entrance of the bus...actually pretty dangerous to step off on top of this. The darkened lights is a really big issue and I am now committed to reporting every violation (which you don’t notice unless you are on foot, bike or public transport it seems) I am a city girl but was pretty uncomfortable on public square (about 9pm a weeknight0-so incredibly dark, no patrol cars, and same thing on w25/detroit. I contacted the councilman b/c believe it or not there are different utility companies involved depending on the light post and it can be time consuming to play games sorting that out. I let them straiten out. I figure Cimpermans prepping himself for the big Mayor job, so he has incentive! (not that he is not committed anyway). I did let them know that our center piece-public square was creepier than the port authority Hell’s Kitchen bus depot…so sad.

not sure which thread this is most appropriate as this theme permeates a few threads.

 

here is an idea that denver has adopted for generating cash for homeless support;

 

Denver Uses Parking Meters To Help Homeless

The Plain Dealer

 

9 March 2007

Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper has campaigned a new program that puts old parking meters to use raising money for homeless services.

 

...

 

www.cleveland.com

This has been done in other places, as well.  I'd like to see it done here in Cleveland.

And of course this morning on Fox 8, the mother was wailing "I want justice! They shouldn't be killing these young men! He was only 17!". :roll:

 

Justice for a punk who tried to run down a cop? Maybe if she had intervened in her child's life earlier this wouldn't have happened!

 

From cleveland.com

Shot teen had troubled history

Posted by Gabriel Baird March 23, 2007 10:41AM

Angelo Miller, the 17-year-old suspect shot by a Cleveland police officer early this morning, has been in and out of trouble since he turned 13, according to police reports.

 

He was most recently arrested last month. Police pulled over a 2001 Chrysler Concorde that had been reported stolen.

 

More at cleveland.com http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2007/03/teen_shot_by_officer_in_earlym.html

Mayday, I was posting this at the same time.  I also was thinking, why didn't she have his ass at home at damn near 2 AM???

 

I want justice and I want kids/adults like your sons, god rest his soul, of my city's streets!

I also groaned when i heard the mother's comments this morning on Fox8.

 

Don't get me wrong, its not my place to jump to conclusions what happened, but like mayday said: you tried to run over a cop, what did you expect to happen?

From newsnet5.com:

 

"Miller's family members said they do not believe the story. "He's afraid of the police," said his brother, Dante Kirkman. "If the police come, he's going to get on his knees and lay down." Authorities said Miller has been in and out of trouble for several years. In September 2005 he was arrested for misdemeanor assault and was put on probation. He was later arrested for probation violation and failing to show up at a hearing. He was taken away from his parents twice when he was younger. Miller has two children. Both of them are 1 year old."

 

 

I am confused as to why they shot him. According to this story he was running on foot from police and was not armed? If he had just hurt someone or was a threat to police, well then yeah I get it.  Otherwise why shoot someone over stealing a material object? I'm not saying he isnt a punk, b/c he is..but does he need to potentially die for it? If someone stole my car (yes I have been a victim of that so I can relate) I would not want the person to be shot for it!  Correct about the mom...her blaming finger should be pointing at herself has well.

^According to witness reports, the punk drove his car at the officer. From Fox 8 Cleveland's site:

 

Police tell Fox 8 News that Ofc. John Lundy, working as a security guard at the complex, shot Angelo Miller, 17. Miller (pictured in the graphic) and some others had apparently been breaking into cars parked on the property.

 

Lundy lives in the area and has been working security at Lexington Village for more than a decade.

 

According to Cleveland Police Chief Michael McGrath, Lundy approached Miller and ordered him to stop. At that point, the teenager drove a vehicle at the officer, which led to at least four shots being fired and a subsequent crash into a small tree.

 

Miller was pulled out of the vehicle and transported to MetroHealth Medical Center, but he did not survive.

 

According to Dr. Joseph Filo of the Cuyahoga County Coroners Office, Miller's death was caused due to a gun shot wound to his back and is being ruled as a homicide.

 

The fatal encounter took place after the officer recovered stolen property from a scene where he saw four other suspects escape. McGrath says that there has been a rash of car break-ins recently at Lexington Village.

 

Members of the teenager's family were at the scene and talked to Fox 8 News, but were clearly stunned.

 

"He would never get into a situation like this," the victim's brother, Dante Kirkman, said. "That's not him. He was a very honest guy. He was a good kid."

 

"He had two babies," the victim's mother, Alicia Kirkman, said. "He didn't deserve to be killed.

 

"I want justice because they shouldn't be killing these young people. He's only 17.""

.......

:roll:

 

are those credible witnesses?  if they were so damn concerned about his welfare, they would have told his ass to go home!  Why was a 17 y/o out on the street at 2 AM.

 

Where were his parents, friends, etc. then?  the sad part is the four lives have been directly destroyed.  the cop, the victim and his two children that will grow up without a father.  Not to mention the families that are indirectly affected by this.

 

I want justice and I want kids/adults like that kid off my city's streets!

 

It pisses me off how people try to make the criminal the victim....after the fact.

this seems like a breath of fresh air.  we need more people asking questions about why people try to run over police officers in the first place.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/117533070499020.xml&coll=2

 

Residents back policeman who killed teen

Saturday, March 31, 2007

Brie Zeltner

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

Residents of the East Side apartment complex where an off-duty police officer shot and killed 17-year-old Angelo Miller last week gathered Friday evening to show their support for the security guard who made them feel safe.

 

John Lundy, an 18-year veteran with the Cleveland police, was working as a security guard overnight at Lexington Village on East 79th Street when he shot and killed Miller after the officer was alerted to people breaking into cars on the property.

 

Lundy stopped Miller's car in the parking lot, and fired at least five shots from the passenger's side of the vehicle. One hit Miller in the back. Police believe that Miller accelerated toward Lundy and he fired in self-defense.

[email protected], 216-999-4283

 

 

Mr. Key is right.  Parents of underaged youth, should be held accountable!

 

 

AND THERE PARENTS ALSO!

AND THERE PARENTS ALSO!

 

HUH?  Why should the grandparents be held responsible, unless a grandparent is the legal guardian?

 

By the way don't you mean "their"?  :roll:

You of all people shouldn't be throwing stones from your glass house when it comes to spelling and grammar!

 

You of all people shouldn't be throwing stones from your glass house when it comes to spelling and grammar!

 

HUSHIN! Ya heard!

Thats why I am a Mechanical Designer and not an English major.

 

Link to article

 

Who's being killed in the city? Mostly criminals by criminals

Thursday, April 12, 2007

Gabriel Baird

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

Most of the victims of homicide in Cleveland look a lot like their killers.

 

They are criminals being killed by other criminals. The incidents almost always involve black men killing a man of the same race.

 

The deadliest areas are those stricken with poverty and fatherless households. Homicides here are about three times the national average.

 

People familiar with Cleveland and its crime problem, which has earned it the dubious honor of being the seventh most dangerous city in the country, have known this intuitively for years.

 

But now Cleveland State University professor Wendy Regoeczi has analyzed 389 Cleveland homicides between 1998 and 2002, put the numbers into perspective using U.S. census data and turned out facts that confirm many people's suspicions.

 

But she goes a step further than giving facts. She is using her findings to advocate for solutions.

 

She originally started her study for former Police Chief Ed Lohn and, after sharing some findings with the department, she continued digging deeper. Now that the study is finished, she has sent it to the new chief, Michael McGrath.

 

In the 22-page report, Regoeczi argues that Cleveland must address the problem of poverty and restore police units that former Mayor Jane Campbell cut in 2004 when facing a budget deficit.

 

Since these cuts, the number of homicides in Cleveland has spiked from 86 to well over 100 for the first time since 1996.

 

McGrath could not be reached for comment.

 

"She's right," said Ward 9 Councilman Kevin Conwell, chairman of City Council's Safety Committee. "Cleveland took a big hit when they lost the officers."

 

He agrees with Regoeczi that the fugitive unit, formerly known as Strike Force, would be useful.

 

But money remains tight for the city. Conwell said restoring any units would have to be through a change in police deployment. He hopes police can find a better way of tracking crimes and finding patterns.

 

He and Regoeczi believe police can't solve the entire problem.

 

"You can't just arrest a problem away," Conwell said.

 

Regoeczi writes that socioeconomic problems must be addressed. Conwell said the city and public groups are trying to address this, citing an initiative to encourage men to stay involved in their children's lives.

 

Also, Ward 18 Councilman Jay Westbrook said he believes the mayor is working to improve recreation centers in communities.

 

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I wonder if the report was available for public analysis..

here is the map that was posted online:

 

yellow dots are white deaths, blue dots are black deaths:

 

link to interactive map: http://www.cleveland.com/pdgraphics/interactive/homicides_2006/map/m10000.html

 

http://www.cleveland.com/pdgraphics/interactive/homicides_2006/map/10000.png