June 22, 20231 yr My old neighborhood in Pittsburgh had a massive shootout not too long ago. PGH crime stats aren't as easily accessible as Cleveland's but I assure you, they have similar issues. https://www.wtae.com/article/pittsburgh-easter-airbnb-shooting-one-year-later/43548438 And fwiw I go for walks downtown at lunch everyday and I'm constantly robbed, it's crazy.
June 22, 20231 yr 10 hours ago, YABO713 said: I was on a bachelor party .5 miles away when this happened in Pittsburgh, FWIW. https://triblive.com/local/morning-roundup-man-charged-in-shooting-in-pittsburghs-strip-district/ Kind of an appropriate district to have a bachelor party in...
June 22, 20231 yr 2 hours ago, E Rocc said: Kind of an appropriate district to have a bachelor party in... No comment
June 22, 20231 yr 14 hours ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said: Funny can't remember the last time someone was shot at Crocker Park just for existing and being an innocent bystander. I guess my irrational fear is from being a racist and not from the fact of crime data when you compare said Crocker Park vs Slavic Village or as a whole Cleveland vs say Pittsburgh. Ford F150 lives matter! A innocent victim of the vicious North Olmsted Crips, who were clearly on Westlake Bloods territory! https://www.cleveland.com/community/2021/08/suspect-arrested-for-firing-shot-at-crocker-park-westlake-police-blotter.html
June 22, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, Cleburger said: Ford F150 lives matter! A innocent victim of the vicious North Olmsted Crips, who were clearly on Westlake Bloods territory! https://www.cleveland.com/community/2021/08/suspect-arrested-for-firing-shot-at-crocker-park-westlake-police-blotter.html I see you're really having to dig deep into 2 years ago, meanwhile yet another carjacking occurred last night just downtown, this time in the flats per Ed Gallek. But keep digging your heads in the sand because this pipe dream of 30,000 downtown residents aint ever going to happen when you don't feel safe just walking to your car. Half my GF's floor of her apartment already left this calender year
June 22, 20231 yr 10 minutes ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said: I see you're really having to dig deep into 2 years ago, meanwhile yet another carjacking occurred last night just downtown, this time in the flats per Ed Gallek. But keep digging your heads in the sand because this pipe dream of 30,000 downtown residents aint ever going to happen when you don't feel safe just walking to your car. Half my GF's floor of her apartment already left this calender year And yet, developers keep building new apartments Downtown. Perhaps, they should consult with you first.
June 22, 20231 yr 13 minutes ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said: I see you're really having to dig deep into 2 years ago, meanwhile yet another carjacking occurred last night just downtown, this time in the flats per Ed Gallek. But keep digging your heads in the sand because this pipe dream of 30,000 downtown residents aint ever going to happen when you don't feel safe just walking to your car. Half my GF's floor of her apartment already left this calender year Or we could do the math. One shooting in Crocker Park with it's, what, 200 residents vs nearly 400,000 in Cleveland. I saw that Westlake is also banning cruising at Crocker Park. Things must be getting scary on Friday and Saturday nights.
June 22, 20231 yr 15 minutes ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said: https://twitter.com/edgallekfox8/status/1671878552394899457?s=20 Random, for no reason at all question: How did you feel about people wearing masks and social distancing "being afraid to live their lives?"
June 22, 20231 yr 19 minutes ago, YABO713 said: Random, for no reason at all question: How did you feel about people wearing masks and social distancing "being afraid to live their lives?" I know its frustrating but I learned a long time ago not to feed this troll. Edited June 22, 20231 yr by Htsguy
June 29, 20231 yr And it was in the suburbs. This is the Cleveland safety discussion.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 30, 20231 yr The EY Building garage has new security protocols in place as per a friend who works there. Allegedly numerous "incidents" including a serious one Wednesday.
July 1, 20231 yr Decided to give Amtrak a shot for my Chicago trip. Pulled into the parking lot and there’s just glass on every empty parking space. Evidently several cars had their windows smashed recently. I’m fully expecting to come back with my car windows smashed in. Can’t wait.
July 1, 20231 yr 12 hours ago, JB said: Decided to give Amtrak a shot for my Chicago trip. Pulled into the parking lot and there’s just glass on every empty parking space. Evidently several cars had their windows smashed recently. I’m fully expecting to come back with my car windows smashed in. Can’t wait. I would count this as another perk to putting Amtrak back into Tower City. Covered, somewhat secure parking for Amtrak travelers who are obviously away from their cars for days on end. Please let us know how you fare upon return.
July 3, 20231 yr Could it be possible Cleveland assigns some cops to keep watch on the Amtrak station and its surroundings. Vehicles getting their windows smashed at the Amtrak station is not a very good look for Cleveland. ☹️
July 3, 20231 yr I never park at the Amtrak station. I always get a ride from a friend or Uber/Lyft/Taxi. Seen/heard too many bad stories over the decades. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 3, 20231 yr 38 minutes ago, DHubb said: Could it be possible Cleveland assigns some cops to keep watch on the Amtrak station and its surroundings. Vehicles getting their windows smashed at the Amtrak station is not a very good look for Cleveland. ☹️ Several vehicles had their windows smashed at one of the parking lots near Progressive Field when the Guardians were in town a couple weekends ago. Many of them were here from out-of-town. Not sure it is possible to assign cops everywhere, but perhaps security guard(s) or some type of surveillance.
July 3, 20231 yr On 6/30/2023 at 10:49 PM, JB said: Decided to give Amtrak a shot for my Chicago trip. Pulled into the parking lot and there’s just glass on every empty parking space. Evidently several cars had their windows smashed recently. I’m fully expecting to come back with my car windows smashed in. Can’t wait. Luckily my car windows weren’t smashed.
July 3, 20231 yr I can't stand that kind of crime/vandalism. When you see it it feels like society is fraying at the seams. You come back to you car after a nice evening out and come upon a few cars with their windows smashed. So deflating.
July 3, 20231 yr 2 hours ago, cadmen said: I can't stand that kind of crime/vandalism. When you see it it feels like society is fraying at the seams. You come back to you car after a nice evening out and come upon a few cars with their windows smashed. So deflating. Or your business gets trashed because of police misconduct in a town hundreds of miles away. The degree is different, but the source is the same: a toxically incorrect belief that this is somehow striking at "the system", condoned and sometimes even excused by people who should know better.
July 3, 20231 yr I had an interview in Cinci a couple years ago. Decided to walk to a coffee shop in OTR to get some work done prior to my interview. I take a phone call outside the shop and low and behold, there is some random (probably homeless/crazy guy) going ham on a car window in broad daylight smashing it completely. He had already did this to 3 other cars next to it. Pretty sure he was crazy and just smashing the windows with the intent to cause damage. Called the cops and thankfully they came in time to arrest the guy. My point being is that I hope out of towners who have their car windows broken into in Cleveland don't think this is a Cleveland thing. It's the sad reality of how we treat our cities when it comes to crime and making them a liveable place. It certainly didn't dampen my view of Cinci that I already had.
July 3, 20231 yr 4 hours ago, LibertyBlvd said: Several vehicles had their windows smashed at one of the parking lots near Progressive Field when the Guardians were in town a couple weekends ago. Many of them were here from out-of-town. Not sure it is possible to assign cops everywhere, but perhaps security guard(s) or some type of surveillance. It'd be cool if parking lot owners had some liability in all of this. Yes parking prices would go up but also they wouldn't be able to hide behind a disclaimer and would have to actually provide something other than physical space that they're making tons of money off of. I hate all of our lots around town with NOT RESPONSIBLE plastered on their signs when they're charging anywhere from $8-$80+(on the rare major events). If you want to leech off of the city and squat on valuable lots, you should have to provide something back to society. I know I'm liberal pie in the sky dreaming but I will never feel bad for parking lot owners.
July 4, 20231 yr 11 hours ago, JB said: Luckily my car windows weren’t smashed. FWIW, I have ridden Amtrak out of Cleveland at least 20 times, usually for about a week at a time, and I have never had a problem. Although I will admit that I do feel a little relief when I come back and my windows aren't smashed. Edited July 4, 20231 yr by jam40jeff
July 4, 20231 yr On 6/21/2023 at 9:57 PM, GISguy said: And fwiw I go for walks downtown at lunch everyday and I'm constantly robbed, it's crazy. Wait, say what?! Do you mind expanding on that a bit? EDIT: OK, so I just read the previous page and the sarcastic anecdotes. I assume this is a continuation of those? Edited July 4, 20231 yr by jam40jeff
July 4, 20231 yr More trouble on Public Square "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 4, 20231 yr Better get control over downtown or the residents will leave too "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 4, 20231 yr ^Not saying this didn’t happen, it probably did, but I’ve been up since 7am and didn’t notice a thing. Maybe the DCA got on it real quick and tidied it up, or it actually occurred in the middle of the night and was fixed by morning. My hovercraft is full of eels
July 4, 20231 yr 19 hours ago, E Rocc said: Or your business gets trashed because of police misconduct in a town hundreds of miles away. The degree is different, but the source is the same: a toxically incorrect belief that this is somehow striking at "the system", condoned and sometimes even excused by people who should know better. Broken car windows are not some sort of larger societal problem with the "system," other than we don't provide mental health and substance abuse treatment in this country they way we should. 99.9% of all car break ins are linked to some local addict rooting around for change or something else of value to sell for drugs/alcohol. It amazes me when I walk by these parked cars downtown on game nights and people have all kinds of stuff laying out in their car, like an electronics warehouse! When I park downtown I even hide my phone charging cable and leave nothing visible outside the parked car.
July 4, 20231 yr That's ridiculous victim-blaming nonsense akin to the schmucks suing Kia and Hyundai for a lack of immobilizer systems. It's just always someone else's fault, isn't it. I couldn't help but rape her your honor, for I have a sex addiction and society caused this and maybe racism and blah blah blah. Opportunistic contrarian assholes, emboldened by enablers and excuse-makers, share the blame solely. Edited July 4, 20231 yr by TBideon
July 4, 20231 yr 3 hours ago, Cleburger said: Broken car windows are not some sort of larger societal problem with the "system," other than we don't provide mental health and substance abuse treatment in this country they way we should. 99.9% of all car break ins are linked to some local addict rooting around for change or something else of value to sell for drugs/alcohol. It amazes me when I walk by these parked cars downtown on game nights and people have all kinds of stuff laying out in their car, like an electronics warehouse! When I park downtown I even hide my phone charging cable and leave nothing visible outside the parked car. When I park ANYWHERE - my house driveway included - I put all items and packages out of site. Makes common sense.
July 5, 20231 yr 20 hours ago, TBideon said: That's ridiculous victim-blaming nonsense akin to the schmucks suing Kia and Hyundai for a lack of immobilizer systems. It's just always someone else's fault, isn't it. I couldn't help but rape her your honor, for I have a sex addiction and society caused this and maybe racism and blah blah blah. Opportunistic contrarian assholes, emboldened by enablers and excuse-makers, share the blame solely. I'm not blaming any victim. It's just common sense.
July 5, 20231 yr I'm almost reluctant to mention this because I have no real details, but as I was driving down W.25th last week I heard a guy yelling "They all jumped out and robbed him, and got back in their car and took off!" Sure enough down the street a few blocks there were 3 or 4 police officers interviewing a guy who looked distraught. This was at a pretty crowded time of day and right in broad daylight.
July 5, 20231 yr 21 hours ago, TBideon said: That's ridiculous victim-blaming nonsense akin to the schmucks suing Kia and Hyundai for a lack of immobilizer systems. It's just always someone else's fault, isn't it. I couldn't help but rape her your honor, for I have a sex addiction and society caused this and maybe racism and blah blah blah. Opportunistic contrarian assholes, emboldened by enablers and excuse-makers, share the blame solely. That’s a garbage example. It is absolutely appropriate for governments to be suing Kia and Hyundai for not implementing simple immobilizer systems. The lack of those systems causes the government to have to spend a bunch of money chasing down cars that wouldn’t have been stolen if those companies hadn’t cheaped-out and not included them. And also, @Cleburgerwas correct in his initial critique - NEVER leave items of value in plain sight in a vehicle. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
July 5, 20231 yr On 7/3/2023 at 12:23 PM, LibertyBlvd said: Not sure it is possible to assign cops everywhere, but perhaps security guard(s) or some type of surveillance. Agreed!
July 5, 20231 yr On 7/4/2023 at 12:33 PM, TBideon said: That's ridiculous victim-blaming nonsense akin to the schmucks suing Kia and Hyundai for a lack of immobilizer systems. It's just always someone else's fault, isn't it. I couldn't help but rape her your honor, for I have a sex addiction and society caused this and maybe racism and blah blah blah. Opportunistic contrarian assholes, emboldened by enablers and excuse-makers, share the blame solely. Don't forget to blame the way she dressed. :0 Behavior which is excused is repeated almost as often as behavior which is rewarded. Edited July 5, 20231 yr by E Rocc
July 5, 20231 yr On 7/4/2023 at 8:54 AM, KJP said: Better get control over downtown or the residents will leave too Notice the head of the council safety committee is the one speaking out, not the mayor and definitely not the district's councilman.
July 6, 20231 yr 20 hours ago, E Rocc said: Notice the head of the council safety committee is the one speaking out, not the mayor and definitely not the district's councilman. A large problem in this city is every politician yells and is aiming to get their soundbites and potshots out there instead of working collaboratively towards the greater good of the city. Every councilperson is at war with other wards and aren't moving the city forward. I'll just say that Polensek is one of the loudest voices, take it as you will. Edited July 6, 20231 yr by GISguy
July 6, 20231 yr Who carries $10K in cash with them? Were their doors unlocked? Why didn't the driver hit the gas when the suspects approached the Mercedes? Something sounds fishy. https://www.cleveland19.com/2023/07/06/man-woman-robbed-gunpoint-outside-ritz-carlton-cleveland/ Edited July 6, 20231 yr by LibertyBlvd
July 6, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, LibertyBlvd said: Who carries $10K in cash with them? Were their doors unlocked? Why didn't the driver hit the gas when the suspects approached the Mercedes? Something sounds fishy. https://www.cleveland19.com/2023/07/06/man-woman-robbed-gunpoint-outside-ritz-carlton-cleveland/ Maybe the lady was working at the Hustler club?
July 6, 20231 yr 4 hours ago, GISguy said: A large problem in this city country is every politician yells and is aiming to get their soundbites and potshots out there instead of working collaboratively towards the greater good of the city country. Fixed it for you...
July 7, 20231 yr From Ed Gallek at Fox 8: Latest report shows 21 more people left the Cleveland Police Dept in June—only 5 retired…all others simply resigned "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 9, 20231 yr More thoughts and prayers? So much weakness and cowardice in the face of the enemy. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 10, 20231 yr 16 hours ago, LibertyBlvd said: American cities are reverting to the days of the wild west. More like 1920s cities, basically for the same reason (Prohibition).
July 10, 20231 yr On 7/9/2023 at 8:17 AM, KJP said: More thoughts and prayers? So much weakness and cowardice in the face of the enemy. A little surprised this isn't bigger news. Saw it on page 6 in the Plain Dealer. Apparently this was the second shooting on W6th that night, three others were shot on W6 in Tremont as well. Is posting of PD screencaps frowned upon? Assuming so or I'd post it.
July 10, 20231 yr 16 minutes ago, Jax said: A little surprised this isn't bigger news. Saw it on page 6 in the Plain Dealer. Apparently this was the second shooting on W6th that night, three others were shot on W6 in Tremont as well. Is posting of PD screencaps frowned upon? Assuming so or I'd post it. The key when posting from other media sources is keeping it to three or fewer paragraphs. Usually we also link to the source website. Copy/paste of the text loads faster as compared to screen caps. Most photos on the web have a direct link if you dig enough - posting a direct link to an image embeds it on the page without needing to upload. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
July 11, 20231 yr On 7/9/2023 at 3:18 PM, LibertyBlvd said: American cities are reverting to the days of the wild west. I think you have us confused with suburban areas and small towns. Stop watching Fux Snooz... https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/news/gun-deaths-more-likely-small-towns-major-cities https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/map-gun-death-rates-lower-cities-than-rural-counties-rcna81462 https://www.ncja.org/crimeandjusticenews/gun-violence-rates-in-rural-areas-match-or-outpace-cities "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
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