Jump to content

Featured Replies

6 hours ago, Cleburger said:

Not sure this is a crime or not just yet, as it's labeled a cyber "incident."    I did see something on Twitter about 911 dispatch having issues today as well.   For some reason Erieview Tower is also mentioned. 

 

At any rate, City employees probably won't mind a day off.. 

 

 

Cleveland City Hall closed Monday due to 'cyber incident,' city says

 

Cleveland City Hall and Erieview Tower will be closed on Monday due to a "cyber incident," according to an email received from the City of Cleveland.

Affected systems have been shut off and will remain off until the city better understands the incident, the City of Cleveland said in the email.

 

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/cleveland-city-hall-erieview-tower-closed-monday-due-to-cyber-incident-city-says

 

They're referencing "The Fives" at Erieview where a few departments have operations. 

  • Replies 7.2k
  • Views 348.3k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Most Popular Posts

  • Decided to unlock, since it had been 5 days.... and mainly to share this....   

  • KFM44107
    KFM44107

    I wouldn't go as far as blaming the mayor. He's been around for four months and there's no way he's had time for the intricacies of the many departments he needs to fix. He certainly has atleast spent

  • The good neighborhoods are definitely nicer. More housing is being built in this city than at anytime in probably both our lives. Unless you were born in like the 50s.    I have seen absolut

Posted Images

Whoa!

 

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

1 hour ago, KJP said:

Whoa!

 

 

 

 

Between that account and your blog, the local media is always catching up.

Does the Mayor's vehicle always go through red lights?

seems like that's the fact they don't want to admit to.

You send a squad car and the whole group of hundreds of people flee at high speeds, likely killing an innocent bystander in the process. Then the cops are blamed instead of the actual criminals, handcuffing them from getting these thugs off the street even further, leading to further lawlessness just like in Playhouse square. Cities are in a lose-lose situation when it comes to the attention and oversight city cops get over suburban ones. 

On 6/17/2024 at 2:58 PM, KJP said:

CPD and the courts need to crack down on this without mercy

 

Another Cleveland weekend filled with blocked-off roads due to unruly crowds, daredevil driving

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/another-cleveland-weekend-filled-with-blocked-off-roads-due-to-unruly-crowds-daredevil-driving

 

There is zero traffic law enforcement in Cleveland. Half the cars on the street have no valid license plate and/or sticker, or any plate at all. For police departments, it simply isn't worth the effort.

 

BTW, this stupidity has been going on in NYC for a while now. It's the thing to do with the powerful missiles produced by Stellantis and provided to anyone with a down payment.

 

As I always contend, the industry is responsible for this culture and should be held to account. Very comparable to the production of assault weapons.

 

But vehicle producers can always count on the Cult of Personal Responsibility rampant in America. They have also always known, for over 100 years that passing off that futile responsibility of law enforcement to police was the most effective deflection in US history.

3 hours ago, MVH said:

 

There is zero traffic law enforcement in Cleveland. Half the cars on the street have no valid license plate and/or sticker, or any plate at all. For police departments, it simply isn't worth the effort.

 

BTW, this stupidity has been going on in NYC for a while now. It's the thing to do with the powerful missiles produced by Stellantis and provided to anyone with a down payment.

 

As I always contend, the industry is responsible for this culture and should be held to account. Very comparable to the production of assault weapons.

 

But vehicle producers can always count on the Cult of Personal Responsibility rampant in America. They have also always known, for over 100 years that passing off that futile responsibility of law enforcement to police was the most effective deflection in US history.

Yah, this is due to policy for pursuits. If the police, in Cleveland, attempted a traffic stop on a vehicle with one of these violations, all the suspect driver has to do is continue driving. The police, by policy, must turn the opposite direction and allow it to flee. 
Read the policy the Department of Justice implements in every city it goes to. 

Vehicle Pursuits are extremely limited 

CLE ~ Shooting - Edgewater Beach - 6600s Mem Shwy - about 9p - 17M deep graze to upper back, taken to Metro in serious condition after 20 shots rpted fired.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I was the at Edgewater when it happened, but luckily not where the shooting occurred. There was a huge crowd on the 2nd level of the beach house when I initially walked past, assuming shooting occurred there while I was walking around upper Edgewater. Had no idea it had happened, there were several Metropark cops at upper Edgewater around a group of would be grillers (have no idea what that was about) and then suddenly a bunch of cops started making their way to lower Edgewater. By the time I made my way back down there the crowd had been dispersed, the 2nd floor of the beach house cautioned taped off, and there were massive lines of cars trying to get out of the park.

Over the last three years, CPD lost about 550 police officers. The city just started increasing pay this year but that's only a part of the problem....

 

Officer hit by dirt bike on city street: EMS

https://fox8.com/news/officer-hit-by-dirt-bike-on-city-street-ems/

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

And now the Waterloo area loses a small business because of Cleveland's lawlessness. Long time cleveland artist in standoff with a teen pointing a gun right at him. Shook him up so bad he closed his gallery. This city needs to wake the F up. 

17 hours ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said:

And now the Waterloo area loses a small business because of Cleveland's lawlessness. Long time cleveland artist in standoff with a teen pointing a gun right at him. Shook him up so bad he closed his gallery. This city needs to wake the F up. 

 

I know Jerry, and his daughter.   She's how I find out about it before the news hit.  I believe he was winding down the business anyway, but this seems to have sealed it.

 

Here's the crazy part, he doesn't think he will be able to sell any more works because of this.  That's crazy.   Has the entire town become like Fairfax during the Damon Wells situation, glorifying a [redacted] while excoriating someone who defended themselves?

 

Edit:   I initially commented on this in the suburban crime thread, since it began in Euclid.

Edited by E Rocc

Why do these politicians always babble about praying during tragedies. It's such a trite trope, meaningless, empty, copy-pasted from tens of thousands of prior horrors.

 

Sorry and fury should be the response. How about Bibb encourages communities to work with law enforcement, be vigilant, even self-police. Put out rewards or bounties for gangbangers and associates. Work with the governor on imposing a semi-permanent National Guard presence with checkpoints. Actually enfore the highest penalites for gun-related crimes. And ignore the loudmouths who profit off this generational anarchy. Clearly what we've been doing for 60 years isn't working.

 

Anything is better than the hopes and prayers bulls**t.

1 hour ago, TBideon said:

Why do these politicians always babble about praying during tragedies. It's such a trite trope, meaningless, empty, copy-pasted from tens of thousands of prior horrors.

 

Sorry and fury should be the response. How about Bibb encourages communities to work with law enforcement, be vigilant, even self-police. Put out rewards or bounties for gangbangers and associates. Work with the governor on imposing a semi-permanent National Guard presence with checkpoints. Actually enfore the highest penalites for gun-related crimes. And ignore the loudmouths who profit off this generational anarchy. Clearly what we've been doing for 60 years isn't working.

 

Anything is better than the hopes and prayers bulls**t.

Self police? Who should be self policing specifically? And I for one would not appreciate a permanent military presence in the city, but that may just be me. 

Dammit....

 

 

156.JPG

Also as per NEOScan, shooting in the parking lot by the Thirsty Parrot at 1:36am.

More guns will fix all of this.

 

/s

Edited by GISguy

Those CPD'ers are so clever

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

This is Gargano's Catering on West 25th, across the street from MetroHealth

 

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

On 7/18/2024 at 1:17 PM, KJP said:

Those CPD'ers are so clever

 

 

A week plus? It's been there for 8 months. Also a cop definitely put that for sale sign on there. 

 

Edit: you know what, didn't read the street in the tweet. That car has been at the JC for 8 months, as it's out of service. Looks like they found a use for it finally. Still bet a cop put that sign there. 

Edited by KFM44107

I hate to share this, because I love this neighborhood with every fabric of my being... But we just bought a house in the suburbs (which we never expected to do) because of some of the events that recently took place near our house. Our goal is always going to be to move back to the neighborhood once we're empty nesters, but we've had a number of issues lately, most of which never bothered us until we brought a daughter into the world... 

 

- We have squatters in 3 houses within 100 feet of us in each direction, with the city (even given their best efforts) not able to do a whole lot about it... 

- There have been 4 shootings within .5 miles of our house since May 1. 3 of these were car jackings. 

- The house next door has been used as a drop-off location for stolen goods (from what we gather), and on a couple of separate occasions that led to altercations between "buyer and seller" just on the other side of our fence. 

- Our neighbors have had 3 bikes and a car stolen (though they didn't exactly make it difficult for the thieves.

 

Again, I love the neighborhood, and it's an intensely emotional decision for us - but having a daughter altered how we managed and reacted to the opportunity crime. Overall, I couldn't recommend the neighborhood enough - but today we finally pulled the trigger. 😔

27 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

I hate to share this, because I love this neighborhood with every fabric of my being... But we just bought a house in the suburbs (which we never expected to do) because of some of the events that recently took place near our house. Our goal is always going to be to move back to the neighborhood once we're empty nesters, but we've had a number of issues lately, most of which never bothered us until we brought a daughter into the world... 

 

- We have squatters in 3 houses within 100 feet of us in each direction, with the city (even given their best efforts) not able to do a whole lot about it... 

- There have been 4 shootings within .5 miles of our house since May 1. 3 of these were car jackings. 

- The house next door has been used as a drop-off location for stolen goods (from what we gather), and on a couple of separate occasions that led to altercations between "buyer and seller" just on the other side of our fence. 

- Our neighbors have had 3 bikes and a car stolen (though they didn't exactly make it difficult for the thieves.

 

Again, I love the neighborhood, and it's an intensely emotional decision for us - but having a daughter altered how we managed and reacted to the opportunity crime. Overall, I couldn't recommend the neighborhood enough - but today we finally pulled the trigger. 😔

Sorry to hear Yabo, but also understand.  Where you landing?  

59 minutes ago, Cleburger said:

Sorry to hear Yabo, but also understand.  Where you landing?  

 

Brecksville. Closer to fam and still walkable to ice cream lol

2 hours ago, YABO713 said:

I hate to share this, because I love this neighborhood with every fabric of my being... But we just bought a house in the suburbs (which we never expected to do) because of some of the events that recently took place near our house. Our goal is always going to be to move back to the neighborhood once we're empty nesters, but we've had a number of issues lately, most of which never bothered us until we brought a daughter into the world... 

 

- We have squatters in 3 houses within 100 feet of us in each direction, with the city (even given their best efforts) not able to do a whole lot about it... 

- There have been 4 shootings within .5 miles of our house since May 1. 3 of these were car jackings. 

- The house next door has been used as a drop-off location for stolen goods (from what we gather), and on a couple of separate occasions that led to altercations between "buyer and seller" just on the other side of our fence. 

- Our neighbors have had 3 bikes and a car stolen (though they didn't exactly make it difficult for the thieves.

 

Again, I love the neighborhood, and it's an intensely emotional decision for us - but having a daughter altered how we managed and reacted to the opportunity crime. Overall, I couldn't recommend the neighborhood enough - but today we finally pulled the trigger. 😔

Also very sorry to hear this but I certainly understand.  Still news like this should be made known at city hall.

 

Obviously none of my business so I understand if you don't want to get into it, but will/did all these issues affect your ability to sell your house or did/will result in a reduced price?

3 hours ago, Htsguy said:

Also very sorry to hear this but I certainly understand.  Still news like this should be made known at city hall.

 

Obviously none of my business so I understand if you don't want to get into it, but will/did all these issues affect your ability to sell your house or did/will result in a reduced price?


Fortunately, we bought our house unfinished and at a discount in 2018, so we should do well on it regardless. But yeah I’m not thrilled to show our house when the property next door has boards on the windows.

13 hours ago, YABO713 said:

 

Brecksville. Closer to fam and still walkable to ice cream lol

 

One of my former neighbors, an attorney as well, bailed out to Brecksville a while back, I got the impression this was also all about her kid.   The area around the square is pretty walkable even if you park in the shopping center (Marc's) lot.

 

Yes, as has been discussed elsewhere here kids totally change your perspective.   

On 7/22/2024 at 1:29 PM, KFM44107 said:

A week plus? It's been there for 8 months. Also a cop definitely put that for sale sign on there. 

 

Edit: you know what, didn't read the street in the tweet. That car has been at the JC for 8 months, as it's out of service. Looks like they found a use for it finally. Still bet a cop put that sign there. 

 

My first thought too, especially with Bibb on the sign.

 

It may be there ostensibly to slow cars down.   But I once commented to the mayor of Northfield Village that while there were always cars on 8 I didn't see a lot of pull overs so maybe they were watching for other things and he just smiled.

21 hours ago, YABO713 said:

I hate to share this, because I love this neighborhood with every fabric of my being... But we just bought a house in the suburbs (which we never expected to do) because of some of the events that recently took place near our house. Our goal is always going to be to move back to the neighborhood once we're empty nesters, but we've had a number of issues lately, most of which never bothered us until we brought a daughter into the world... 

 

- We have squatters in 3 houses within 100 feet of us in each direction, with the city (even given their best efforts) not able to do a whole lot about it... 

- There have been 4 shootings within .5 miles of our house since May 1. 3 of these were car jackings. 

- The house next door has been used as a drop-off location for stolen goods (from what we gather), and on a couple of separate occasions that led to altercations between "buyer and seller" just on the other side of our fence. 

- Our neighbors have had 3 bikes and a car stolen (though they didn't exactly make it difficult for the thieves.

 

Again, I love the neighborhood, and it's an intensely emotional decision for us - but having a daughter altered how we managed and reacted to the opportunity crime. Overall, I couldn't recommend the neighborhood enough - but today we finally pulled the trigger. 😔

 

A college friend was made a partner at Dewey Ballentine at 32. He said, "Now that I can afford to live well in New York, it's not possible to live well in New York."  If that's any consolation ...

Remember: It's the Year of the Snake

21 hours ago, YABO713 said:

 

Brecksville. Closer to fam and still walkable to ice cream lol

 

Walkable to ice cream is definitely a priority for where we may move to.  Right now we are in the outer suburbs and not walkable to anything.  Also about to become empty nesters, so we are looking to downsize and be in a more walkable and bikable location.

7 minutes ago, plinth857 said:

 

Walkable to ice cream is definitely a priority for where we may move to.  Right now we are in the outer suburbs and not walkable to anything.  Also about to become empty nesters, so we are looking to downsize and be in a more walkable and bikable location.

 

Want a 3 bed 3 bath in Ohio City? Lol 

Where were you at in Ohio City? We're moving into an apartment by Kentucky Gardens in a few weeks

 

We're moving from New Orleans, so I dont know the areas up here, though through research that part of OC didnt sound bad (just typical city stuff)

Edited by daybreaker

3 hours ago, daybreaker said:

Where were you at in Ohio City? We're moving into an apartment by Kentucky Gardens in a few weeks

 

We're moving from New Orleans, so I dont know the areas up here, though through research that part of OC didnt sound bad (just typical city stuff)

 

Yeah, frankly we've never had a single crime-related issue, and we love our home. As I mentioned above though, having a daughter just kind of changes our risk tolerance a bit. 

 

We're about .5 miles from Kentucky Gardens 

5 hours ago, YABO713 said:

Want a 3 bed 3 bath in Ohio City? Lol 

 

It will likely sell fast given the lack of inventory...even with a boarded up house next door. I've been house hunting and anything decent sells quick, but maybe less so if it lacks a garage.

 

It seems like Ohio City can be block-by-block. I ended up passing on a pretty good house there because a couple of the neighboring houses looked kind of sketch. More so due to quality of life issues than crime though.

 

9 hours ago, Rustbelter said:

It seems like Ohio City can be block-by-block. I ended up passing on a pretty good house there because a couple of the neighboring houses looked kind of sketch. More so due to quality of life issues than crime though.

 

 

That's how E.65th was (both by Fleet and by Francis) years ago and it didn't turn out well.   Often enough it was house by house.   Without assertive QOL action the stuff Yabo encountered spreads.

On 7/23/2024 at 3:59 PM, YABO713 said:

I hate to share this, because I love this neighborhood with every fabric of my being... But we just bought a house in the suburbs (which we never expected to do) because of some of the events that recently took place near our house. Our goal is always going to be to move back to the neighborhood once we're empty nesters, but we've had a number of issues lately, most of which never bothered us until we brought a daughter into the world... 

 

- We have squatters in 3 houses within 100 feet of us in each direction, with the city (even given their best efforts) not able to do a whole lot about it... 

- There have been 4 shootings within .5 miles of our house since May 1. 3 of these were car jackings. 

- The house next door has been used as a drop-off location for stolen goods (from what we gather), and on a couple of separate occasions that led to altercations between "buyer and seller" just on the other side of our fence. 

- Our neighbors have had 3 bikes and a car stolen (though they didn't exactly make it difficult for the thieves.

 

Again, I love the neighborhood, and it's an intensely emotional decision for us - but having a daughter altered how we managed and reacted to the opportunity crime. Overall, I couldn't recommend the neighborhood enough - but today we finally pulled the trigger. 😔

 

Totally get it. We're probably doing the same soon to be honest. I appreciate the police, I just wish there were more of them. They seem totally overwhelmed.

 

It's so wild to me that squatters are apparently universally nearly impossible to deal with. Isn't this something the Sheriff Dept typically deals with though? 

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Jax said:

 

Totally get it. We're probably doing the same soon to be honest. I appreciate the police, I just wish there were more of them. They seem totally overwhelmed.

 

It's so wild to me that squatters are apparently universally nearly impossible to deal with. Isn't this something the Sheriff Dept typically deals with though? 

 

 

 

Ya we don't enforce squatting. It's a civil matter that is dealt through housing court and then enforced by the sheriff on the back end. 

7 minutes ago, KFM44107 said:

Ya we don't enforce squatting. It's a civil matter that is dealt through housing court and then enforced by the sheriff on the back end. 

 

If I'm not mistaken, the property owner has to make a formal complaint and a lot of these houses are owned by out of state companies, sometimes buried by shells.  There have even been "activists" on social media who put out lists of them.

 

That doesn't even take into account the concept of "adverse possession".  If there's one concept in our legal system that should be ruthlessly exterminated, that would be it.

13 hours ago, Rustbelter said:

 

It will likely sell fast given the lack of inventory...even with a boarded up house next door. I've been house hunting and anything decent sells quick, but maybe less so if it lacks a garage.

 

It seems like Ohio City can be block-by-block. I ended up passing on a pretty good house there because a couple of the neighboring houses looked kind of sketch. More so due to quality of life issues than crime though.

 

 

We have a new garage - and I'm removing the boarded up windows from next door before we show it lol. That's also a whole other issue - the house next door is an out of state investor, and the city made him board the windows due to the number of citations on the property - not sure how that helps fix the appearance of the house

2 hours ago, E Rocc said:

That doesn't even take into account the concept of "adverse possession".  If there's one concept in our legal system that should be ruthlessly exterminated, that would be it.

 

Squatters aren't great! But active property owners counter this. Giving LLC "investors" who buy properties and sit on them more power as their properties rot (while not paying taxes) is a bigger problem. Your E65 example/properties is probably riddled with "investors".

 

Hoping the new Residents First Housing Department policies do something about this.

Edited by GISguy

 

3 hours ago, E Rocc said:

That's how E.65th was (both by Fleet and by Francis) years ago and it didn't turn out well.   Often enough it was house by house.   Without assertive QOL action the stuff Yabo encountered spreads.

 

Yes, but Ohio City today and Slavic Village back then are on entirely different trajectories. To be fair there are some pretty nice spots in Ohio City but it also has enough "warts" to leave me with some trepidation depending on the immediate surroundings. Those "warts" will likely go away, the question is how long will it take and how much BS can be tolerated until that happens. 

8 minutes ago, Rustbelter said:

 

 

Yes, but Ohio City today and Slavic Village back then are on entirely different trajectories. To be fair there are some pretty nice spots in Ohio City but it also has enough "warts" to leave me with some trepidation depending on the immediate surroundings. Those "warts" will likely go away, the question is how long will it take and how much BS can be tolerated until that happens. 

 

Yes, I can say there are far fewer "warts" today than when we bought it in 2018. The daughter is the biggest factor here, not neighborhood trajectory

  • 3 weeks later...

literally 2 shootings in broad daylight in "Hingetown", with one guy dead on Detroit and W26th. Not to mention the St. Malaki shooting

This city needs to get a grip on things already. Who in their right mind wants to live in a place where you are literally seeing people being shot daily. All this investment for years in that area, could be all for nothing when those residents realize 2k in rent isn't worth the risk of getting hit by a straight bullet at the least (not to mention the amount of breakins that go on in that area)

Those incidents are horrific but I don't think they're going to affect would-be renters and homebuyers there. The chaos would really have to scale up.

Create an account or sign in to comment

Recently Browsing 0

  • No registered users viewing this page.