February 6Feb 6 2 hours ago, E Rocc said: What suggests it needs elimination are credible reports that monitors have been acting in a manner that perpetuates it, preserving their rather lucrative roles. I also resisted getting into this on an earlier post... But I know someone on the commission... and they are one of the least competent colleagues I've ever worked with. As such, I've always been somewhat skeptical of its value as a governing body
February 6Feb 6 22 minutes ago, YABO713 said: I also resisted getting into this on an earlier post... But I know someone on the commission... and they are one of the least competent colleagues I've ever worked with. As such, I've always been somewhat skeptical of its value as a governing body Authority without responsibility attracts the competency challenged, and that's not the only reason it's never a good thing.
February 7Feb 7 17 hours ago, YABO713 said: I also resisted getting into this on an earlier post... But I know someone on the commission... and they are one of the least competent colleagues I've ever worked with. As such, I've always been somewhat skeptical of its value as a governing body same here. From multiple accounts, it seems like a well intentioned endeavor with honorable goals that has unfortunately not been well executed and doesn't appear to have any viable path for achieving it.
February 7Feb 7 The monitoring team is distinct from the commission, which are distinct from the Division's Inspector General, Police Accountability Team, Internal Affairs, Office of Professional Sandards, the Civilian Police Review Board, Law Department, City Council, etc. all providing oversight over the Division of Police. The monitors from Hogan Lovells are required under the consent degree overseen by Judge Solomon Oliver. The Community Police Commission is maintained under the 2021 amendment to the Charter under Issue 24. Trump's DOJ dismissing the suit underlying the consent degree (with the Court's unlikely blessing) will rid us of the DC monitors and their DC billables. But even then, we'll still be stuck with the unaccountable and ax grinding Community Police Commission unless the Charter is amended to eliminate or reform their governance over the elected mayor, his safety director and police chief. In the meantime we'll continue to struggle with recruitment and retention. Edited February 7Feb 7 by grayfields
February 9Feb 9 e cleve 1990s news report — https://www.instagram.com/reel/DF0hVG_uGmb/?igsh=MTVndGp4MjUwZmZhNQ==
February 13Feb 13 A little additional perspective on the dirt bikes plaguing Cleveland and the inner ring: https://www.cleveland19.com/2025/02/13/10-suspects-indicted-stealing-9-dirt-bikes-middlefield-township-dealership/
February 14Feb 14 19 hours ago, E Rocc said: A little additional perspective on the dirt bikes plaguing Cleveland and the inner ring: https://www.cleveland19.com/2025/02/13/10-suspects-indicted-stealing-9-dirt-bikes-middlefield-township-dealership/ Good lord, a group like that in Middlefield. Another reason why it could only happen in the middle of the night.
February 19Feb 19 Not development related BUT https://fox8.com/news/victims-report-shots-fired-truck-stolen-near-browns-stadium/
February 19Feb 19 19 minutes ago, simplythis said: Not development related BUT https://fox8.com/news/victims-report-shots-fired-truck-stolen-near-browns-stadium/ What in the world are multiple groups of people doing on the Northside of the stadium at 3:30am on a Wednesday? Unfortunately this story is going to be taken advantage of by HSG and the suburban people that are scared of Downtown.
February 19Feb 19 18 minutes ago, PlanCleveland said: What in the world are multiple groups of people doing on the Northside of the stadium at 3:30am on a Wednesday? Unfortunately this story is going to be taken advantage of by HSG and the suburban people that are scared of Downtown. Haslam is probably putting this on as a show.
February 19Feb 19 1 hour ago, PlanCleveland said: What in the world are multiple groups of people doing on the Northside of the stadium at 3:30am on a Wednesday? Unfortunately this story is going to be taken advantage of by HSG and the suburban people that are scared of Downtown. In ten degrees with a windchill near 0, no less. At least someone's using it.
February 19Feb 19 5 hours ago, PlanCleveland said: What in the world are multiple groups of people doing on the Northside of the stadium at 3:30am on a Wednesday? Unfortunately this story is going to be taken advantage of by HSG and the suburban people that are scared of Downtown. What does it look like? Being leaches of society, stealing property, and just participating in general anti-social behavior.
February 20Feb 20 Folks, if a post clearly isn't development related, please make the effort to put it where it belongs. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 20Feb 20 18 hours ago, PlanCleveland said: What in the world are multiple groups of people doing on the Northside of the stadium at 3:30am on a Wednesday? Unfortunately this story is going to be taken advantage of by HSG and the suburban people that are scared of Downtown. "Hanging out". The same reason you will see multiple cars at urban gas stations late at night into the wee hours when most aren't getting gas. This group trying to be less visible than most so there was likely some "commerce" going on.
March 26Mar 26 Friend of mine tells me there was just a shooting in front of the Ohio City Deli at 52nd and Franklin this afternoon. At least 5 shots fired between someone in the parking lot and a fleeing vehicle. Very scary situation, and I know several young families that walk by there regularly
March 26Mar 26 Bobby George attempted murder, rape, kidnapping case advances to grand jury after speculation that charges would be dropped Author: Stephanie Haney (WKYC) Published: March 25, 2025 CLEVELAND — Legal analysis: The attempted murder, rape and kidnapping case against Cleveland's Bobby George will go before a grand jury, 3News can exclusively confirm now more than seven months after allegations were first reported. ... 3News spoke with the special prosecutor assigned to the case, Jane Hanlin, and she said that a date for empaneling the grand jury hasn't been set yet because she's still sorting through the evidence. George, who was recently seen sitting courtside at a Cavaliers game with pro wrestling star Hulk Hogan, is accused of violently attacking a woman he shared a home with, raping her, holding her at gunpoint, and more between November 2023 and July 2024. ... Since then, he has maintained his innocence and his attorneys have taken the necessary steps to later sue the city of Cleveland related to the filing of charges against George. https://www.wkyc.com/article/life/legally-speaking/bobby-george-case-attempted-murder-rape-kidnapping-go-before-grand-jury-will-not-be-dropped-legally-speaking/95-f26c8abc-5615-428c-bc3f-9f2d4bcf3a99
March 26Mar 26 Hangin' with Hulk, huh? Friend of mine was just telling me about how "nice" Green Goat is. I'd pray that justice prevails, but like Bobby, I don't believe in prayer.
March 27Mar 27 I happened to go through Battery Park Yesterday to take pictures. I was stunned to see how many of the driver's-side rear windows in cars were smashed. I don't think these low-lifes missed a single car. There were dozens of them. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 27Mar 27 3 hours ago, Htsguy said: Seems like the "usual suspects" now seeing an opportunity that did not exist a number of years ago in the neighborhood with all the new "wealth" coming in. Like kids in a candy store now. Your are right...finding the solution is not going to be easy or cheap. It doesn't help my mind set knowing that this is just what happens in every city in the country on a regular basis. Its not even just a big city issue anymore either. https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/crime/police-westlake-strongsville-remind-residents-not-to-leave-keys-in-cars-vehicle-thefts/95-02676c5d-e5e0-47ed-a722-8b2421431b01 https://www.cleveland.com/community/2025/02/police-investigate-vehicle-thefts-lakewood-police-blotter.html https://www.cleveland.com/community/2024/09/suspect-arrested-in-westlake-avon-business-break-ins-westlake-police-blotter.html I have friends who just built a house in a brand new North Ridgeville community and they have had multiple car break ins. I know multiple people in Lakewood who had their cars broken into or garage ransacked. They basically came to the conclusion that they might as well live in the city if they have to deal with the same crime anyway. Edited March 27Mar 27 by TDi
March 27Mar 27 5 minutes ago, TDi said: Its not even just a big city issue anymore either. https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/crime/police-westlake-strongsville-remind-residents-not-to-leave-keys-in-cars-vehicle-thefts/95-02676c5d-e5e0-47ed-a722-8b2421431b01 https://www.cleveland.com/community/2025/02/police-investigate-vehicle-thefts-lakewood-police-blotter.html https://www.cleveland.com/community/2024/09/suspect-arrested-in-westlake-avon-business-break-ins-westlake-police-blotter.html I have friends who just built a house in a brand new North Ridgeville community and they have had multiple car break ins. My mom lives on a quiet and secluded cul-de-sac in Solon a few hundred yards from the very wealthy and well patrolled village of Bentlyville. Most people of course park their cars in their garages but 2-3 houses have 3-4 cars and park some in their drives. A couple of years ago same things. All cars parked in driveways were broken into one night.
March 27Mar 27 1 hour ago, KJP said: I happened to go through Battery Park Yesterday to take pictures. I was stunned to see how many of the driver's-side rear windows in cars were smashed. I don't think these low-lifes missed a single car. There were dozens of them. This kind of crime is incredibly demoralizing to a community. Nothing can bring a neighborhood down faster than vandalism on a large scale. Murder is of course a worse crime and a violent assault does scare people but most will see them as a one-off and not really indicative of the area. But vandalism on a large scale makes people feel like leaving. Sometimes it's death by a thousand cuts that changes minds and not so much a single terrible event. Vandalism, graffiti, even large amounts of litter can chase people with means out of the city and to the suburbs. The problem is it's done mostly by kids and even if they are caught our system of justice really doesn't have a good way to handle the problem. I wish l knew some viable solutions. Maybe the old broken window theory is a possible start. Get the community together, bring in a pro-active police, cameras etc. Somehow the City needs to project a visible presence. We can't afford to go backwards.
March 27Mar 27 11 minutes ago, cadmen said: This kind of crime is incredibly demoralizing to a community. Nothing can bring a neighborhood down faster than vandalism on a large scale. Murder is of course a worse crime and a violent assault does scare people but most will see them as a one-off and not really indicative of the area. But vandalism on a large scale makes people feel like leaving. Sometimes it's death by a thousand cuts that changes minds and not so much a single terrible event. Vandalism, graffiti, even large amounts of litter can chase people with means out of the city and to the suburbs. The problem is it's done mostly by kids and even if they are caught our system of justice really doesn't have a good way to handle the problem. I wish l knew some viable solutions. Maybe the old broken window theory is a possible start. Get the community together, bring in a pro-active police, cameras etc. Somehow the City needs to project a visible presence. We can't afford to go backwards. Agreed - makes me so sad. It's honestly shocking how persistent this has been in this area, given how beautiful the homes/apartments are and how active the streets are. I have a former colleague that lived at the new apartments at Station 73 and he had his car broken into 4x - the windows being smashed 3x, despite leaving the doors open - his partner had his car stolen twice in an 8 month period. They've stayed in the neighborhood, which is excellent, but the building just let them walk from their lease due to these issues. While we experienced no where near this level of petty crime, this was the issue my wife and I faced before we left. It became increasingly difficult to rationalize raising children (and allowing them to roam freely in yards, etc. and be independent), when opportunity crime and - at times violent crime - were not uncommon in areas immediately adjacent to us. We DID. NOT. WANT. TO. LEAVE. But we did. There already ARE cameras almost everywhere in DS and OC. There needs to be a more visible presence on the street that's willing to take steps to interfere with this kind of activity - and that's really not fair to ask of everyday citizens. Clearly cameras and "watch and report" security have done very little to stem this. Having said all that, I think there are members of the community in DS, particularly in BP, that will put their heart into addressing this problem. It's a wonderful community - and it's certainly worth fighting for. Hopefully continued development, density, and an increased community presence will address this.
March 27Mar 27 I really don't think crime is urban vs. rural anymore, although the perception hasn't caught up to reality. Cleveland has a lower rate of property crime than Chillicothe. (See here: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-8/table-8-state-cuts/ohio.xls ). NYC and San Francisco both have a lower rate of violent crime than the national average. Personally, I think the dynamics of how supportive and connected a community is matter more than anything else for crime rates. Community creates a social safety net that disincentives crime. It also creates accountability and responsibility. It used to be that small towns had a strong community culture where everybody knew their neighbors, while cities were more like random assortments of rootless and disconnected people. But I don't think that's the case anymore. Most of the folks I know who live in the country or small towns are not actually part of a community. And my personal experience over the last decade tells me that people in urban areas are becoming more connected, more civically engaged, more likely to know their neighbors, etc., while people who live in small towns are getting increasingly isolated.
March 27Mar 27 3 minutes ago, LlamaLawyer said: I really don't think crime is urban vs. rural anymore, although the perception hasn't caught up to reality. Cleveland has a lower rate of property crime than Chillicothe. (See here: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-8/table-8-state-cuts/ohio.xls ). NYC and San Francisco both have a lower rate of violent crime than the national average. Personally, I think the dynamics of how supportive and connected a community is matter more than anything else for crime rates. Community creates a social safety net that disincentives crime. It also creates accountability and responsibility. It used to be that small towns had a strong community culture where everybody knew their neighbors, while cities were more like random assortments of rootless and disconnected people. But I don't think that's the case anymore. Most of the folks I know who live in the country or small towns are not actually part of a community. And my personal experience over the last decade tells me that people in urban areas are becoming more connected, more civically engaged, more likely to know their neighbors, etc., while people who live in small towns are getting increasingly isolated. Have you read any Robert Putnam? A couple of his books speak to your point exceptionally well. And I tend to agree, geography is much less of a controlling factor than socioeconomic conditions. Especially in the rust belt.
March 27Mar 27 Just now, YABO713 said: Have you read any Robert Putnam? A couple of his books speak to your point exceptionally well. And I tend to agree, geography is much less of a controlling factor than socioeconomic conditions. Especially in the rust belt. I read the majority of Bowling Alone (I have a bad habit of skimming certain kinds of books). It's a good book, although a lot of the trends he identified have reversed since he released the book. I should probably check out some of his less dated work. Also, I should add to my above point that my perception about where people are getting more vs. less connected is just an average. So there are obviously some rural areas where connection may be increasing and some urban areas where it's decreasing. And by urban areas, I really mean neighborhoods, since a city the size of Cleveland will have dozens of distinct neighborhoods with their own constantly evolving dynamics.
March 27Mar 27 2 hours ago, TDi said: Its not even just a big city issue anymore either. https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/crime/police-westlake-strongsville-remind-residents-not-to-leave-keys-in-cars-vehicle-thefts/95-02676c5d-e5e0-47ed-a722-8b2421431b01 https://www.cleveland.com/community/2025/02/police-investigate-vehicle-thefts-lakewood-police-blotter.html https://www.cleveland.com/community/2024/09/suspect-arrested-in-westlake-avon-business-break-ins-westlake-police-blotter.html I have friends who just built a house in a brand new North Ridgeville community and they have had multiple car break ins. I know multiple people in Lakewood who had their cars broken into or garage ransacked. They basically came to the conclusion that they might as well live in the city if they have to deal with the same crime anyway. You may still get the same petty crime, but atleast in Lakewood and the other suburbs, the cops actually get stuff done and put these perps away. Good luck even seeing a Cleveland police officer ever showing up for a car break in
March 27Mar 27 23 minutes ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said: You may still get the same petty crime, but atleast in Lakewood and the other suburbs, the cops actually get stuff done and put these perps away. Good luck even seeing a Cleveland police officer ever showing up for a car break in In Cuyahoga County, even if the cops do bust them, if they are juveniles the court turns them back loose. That's a big part of the problem that doesn't get talked about much. Though I daresay if Bibb actually gave an airborne fornicant about crime he'd join Moreno's request to vacate the consent decree.
March 27Mar 27 Just now, E Rocc said: In Cuyahoga County, even if the cops do bust them, if they are juveniles the court turns them back loose. That's a big part of the problem that doesn't get talked about much. Though I daresay if Bibb actually gave an airborne fornicant about crime he'd join Moreno's request to vacate the consent decree. FWIW crime is down under Bibb and he's hiring cops. I think he just disagrees with you about how to improve.
March 27Mar 27 1 hour ago, YABO713 said: FWIW crime is down under Bibb and he's hiring cops. I think he just disagrees with you about how to improve. Hiring cops won't do much good if they can't do their job effectively.
March 27Mar 27 12 minutes ago, E Rocc said: Hiring cops won't do much good if they can't do their job effectively. Ok. Hear me out. My car was hit by a careless driver a couple months ago and first thing I did was call 911, after over an hour and calling the non-emergency line, the driver and I decided to call it. Thankfully he took fault throughout the process. I stuck around for a bit, but yeah, no cops showed up. Speaking of doing their job effectively- I went to the station to make a report - dilligently filled out the form front and back, then had to talk on the phone through bulletproof glass about the crash - the desk officer read nothing from the form I filled out. Total waste of time. Another one: My car was stolen from out front of my apartment when I first moved here. Response time? 5 hours. When they did find my car (that morning), instead of calling me they sent a postcard (three day delay, it was registered in NY at the time..) and I had to pay those three days of impound fees. Another one: Gunshots in the alley behind my apartment where my car was stolen. Resonse time? None. ---- None of this has anything to do with the conscent decree, they have to do with numbers and staffing. With current numbers there are very few things in the city I expect the police to show up for. Edited March 27Mar 27 by GISguy
March 27Mar 27 4 minutes ago, GISguy said: Ok. Hear me out. My car was hit by a careless driver a couple months ago and first thing I did was call 911, after over an hour and calling the non-emergency line, the driver and I decided to call it. Thankfully he took fault throughout the process. I stuck around for a bit, but yeah, no cops showed up. Another one: My car was stolen from out front of my apartment when I first moved here. Response time? 5 hours. When they did find my car (that morning), instead of calling me they sent a postcard (three day delay, it was registered in NY at the time..) and I had to pay those three days of impound fees. Another one: Gunshots in the alley behind my apartment where my car was stolen. Resonse time? None. ---- None of this has anything to do with the concent decree, they have to do with numbers and staffing. With current numbers there are very few things in the city I expect the police to show up for. I had a guy make a left in front of me, eventually I went to the station to make the report. When my car got stolen they showed up, they found it quickly but I only found out because I stayed on top of it. Gunshots? Ha. Those who want to be officers for the right reasons don't want to be kept from doing their job. They don't want to deal with "monitors" who have authority but no responsibility. They will go work other places. Hence the numbers.
March 27Mar 27 1 hour ago, E Rocc said: In Cuyahoga County, even if the cops do bust them, if they are juveniles the court turns them back loose. That's a big part of the problem that doesn't get talked about much. Though I daresay if Bibb actually gave an airborne fornicant about crime he'd join Moreno's request to vacate the consent decree. I’ve got good news for you - he’s also in favor of removing it: https://signalcleveland.org/cleveland-mayor-justin-bibb-trump-2025-reelection/ “The mayor is also watching how the Trump administration handles Cleveland’s consent decree, the police reform agreement that the city signed 10 years ago with then-President Barack Obama’s Justice Department. Bibb said he would like the Trump administration to give Cleveland a clear timetable for fulfilling the decree.”
March 27Mar 27 4 minutes ago, E Rocc said: I had a guy make a left in front of me, eventually I went to the station to make the report. When my car got stolen they showed up, they found it quickly but I only found out because I stayed on top of it. Gunshots? Ha. Those who want to be officers for the right reasons don't want to be kept from doing their job. They don't want to deal with "monitors" who have authority but no responsibility. They will go work other places. Hence the numbers. You're right everything is the conscent decree, it's pointless to try and have an earnest conversation about this. Edited March 27Mar 27 by GISguy
March 27Mar 27 3 hours ago, LlamaLawyer said: Personally, I think the dynamics of how supportive and connected a community is matter more than anything else for crime rates. Community creates a social safety net that disincentives crime. It also creates accountability and responsibility. It used to be that small towns had a strong community culture where everybody knew their neighbors, while cities were more like random assortments of rootless and disconnected people. But I don't think that's the case anymore. Most of the folks I know who live in the country or small towns are not actually part of a community. And my personal experience over the last decade tells me that people in urban areas are becoming more connected, more civically engaged, more likely to know their neighbors, etc., while people who live in small towns are getting increasingly isolated. I think this is actually a very significant problem. We are losing neighborhood community. Someone from overseas once said to me that the rest of the world uses their homes for sleeping and cooking and little else -- they leave their home to see friends, to walk in the park, to live their lives out of their home and in the neighborhood. In America we try to have everything in our home so that we never have to leave -- huge refrigerators so that we have food for a week, our own laundry, our own bar, our own grill, our own lawn and play equipment (park play space), our own exercise equipment, our own entertainment. We don't hang out on the front porch, we hunker down in our air conditioning and watch Netflix. We don't walk to work or take public transit to do our shopping any more, we hop in our own personal car, roll up the windows (more and more frequently tinted to shut out the outside world) and drive to work, to a place to exercise, to shop. It's no wonder the American "rugged individual" barely knows their immediate neighbors. We don't know the people living in our neighborhood when our "community" is coworkers, other adults on our kids' sports teams or school -- who have homes scattered across the county -- or online, scattered around the country or world.
March 27Mar 27 2 hours ago, GISguy said: None of this has anything to do with the conscent decree, they have to do with numbers and staffing. With current numbers there are very few things in the city I expect the police to show up for. It has everything to do with the consent decree. The CPD union has been doing everything in their power to get rid of it since it was place on them. One of their tactics? Have officers sit on their hands and take their good ole time to do anything, just so they can blame the consent decree. Want proof? Next time there is a wreck on the west shoreway, watch how 6 zone cars show up to close down THREE LANES. 6 cars with up to 6 officers, all sitting there with their windows down chatting. Gunshots? You'll wait hours...
March 28Mar 28 Someone just posted on Facebook that every window at Angelos pizza in Lakewood was smashed out last night.
March 28Mar 28 This is getting ridiculous. Clearly somebody or somebodies on the west side are on a mission. I am getting a feeling this is all the same people. I hope the police in both Cleveland and Lakewood have detectives working on this exclusively. There has to be some close circuit footage of all this they can access. Especially the Angelo's incident. Edited March 28Mar 28 by Htsguy
March 28Mar 28 18 hours ago, Cleburger said: It has everything to do with the consent decree. The CPD union has been doing everything in their power to get rid of it since it was place on them. One of their tactics? Have officers sit on their hands and take their good ole time to do anything, just so they can blame the consent decree. Want proof? Next time there is a wreck on the west shoreway, watch how 6 zone cars show up to close down THREE LANES. 6 cars with up to 6 officers, all sitting there with their windows down chatting. Gunshots? You'll wait hours... Of course they have been. It made a very difficult job a lot tougher, with much harsher consequences for doing what turns out to be the wrong thing (as opposed to nothing). I'm not sure too many people understand having a job where if you don't get grownups to do things they don't want to do, you're not doing your job. It's placed the monitors in positions of authority, without anything resembling responsibility. And has been mentioned in this thread, of course they want to maintain such a role as long as they can.
March 28Mar 28 https://www.cleveland.com/news/2025/03/cleveland-homicides-down-48-in-first-quarter-of-this-year-compared-to-2024.html Cleveland homicides down 48% in first quarter of this year compared to 2024 Very impressive news. Glad to see the city continues to become safer year-over-year, despite what many like to falsely promote. YTD 2023: 36, YTD 2024: 29, YTD 2025: 15 This year’s total is a 48% decrease from the same time last year In Cleveland, police have targeted neighborhoods where the most violence takes place, joined forces with state and federal law enforcement partners and used technology to help officers track offenders. Currently, city officials are putting together a safety plan to keep violent crime down. Details about the plan have not been introduced. For years, the department has solved more than 70% of the homicides in the city, a rate that exceeds the national rate of about 60%. Council President Blaine Griffin called the city’s rate impressive. Edited March 28Mar 28 by Geowizical
March 28Mar 28 58 minutes ago, Geowizical said: https://www.cleveland.com/news/2025/03/cleveland-homicides-down-48-in-first-quarter-of-this-year-compared-to-2024.html Cleveland homicides down 48% in first quarter of this year compared to 2024 Very impressive news. Glad to see the city continues to become safer year-over-year, despite what many like to falsely promote. YTD 2023: 36, YTD 2024: 29, YTD 2025: 15 This year’s total is a 48% decrease from the same time last year In Cleveland, police have targeted neighborhoods where the most violence takes place, joined forces with state and federal law enforcement partners and used technology to help officers track offenders. Currently, city officials are putting together a safety plan to keep violent crime down. Details about the plan have not been introduced. For years, the department has solved more than 70% of the homicides in the city, a rate that exceeds the national rate of about 60%. Council President Blaine Griffin called the city’s rate impressive. It's been a slow year for most crimes.
March 28Mar 28 21 minutes ago, KFM44107 said: It's been a slow year for most crimes. Think that's due to increased staffing or other factors?
March 28Mar 28 42 minutes ago, YABO713 said: Think that's due to increased staffing or other factors? Other factors. Particularly partnerships with other agencies. Also the economy but we will see what direction that goes later in the year.
March 28Mar 28 My wife was driving our son to school on Lake last fall and was hit by another car turning left just after she went under the railroad bridge. Police were called and showed up a few minutes later. Even more impressive, he called for a tow and stayed until the tow truck arrived to remove the one car. My wife's car was still drivable. I arrived and thanked the police officer for staying. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 29Mar 29 3 hours ago, KJP said: My wife was driving our son to school on Lake last fall and was hit by another car turning left just after she went under the railroad bridge. Police were called and showed up a few minutes later. Even more impressive, he called for a tow and stayed until the tow truck arrived to remove the one car. My wife's car was still drivable. I arrived and thanked the police officer for staying. Suburban police are mostly pretty good to deal with. If you're white.
March 31Mar 31 On 3/28/2025 at 7:05 PM, KJP said: My wife was driving our son to school on Lake last fall and was hit by another car turning left just after she went under the railroad bridge. Police were called and showed up a few minutes later. Even more impressive, he called for a tow and stayed until the tow truck arrived to remove the one car. My wife's car was still drivable. I arrived and thanked the police officer for staying. I'm assuming they were OK since you didn't say otherwise. This was in Lakewood, yes?
March 31Mar 31 On 3/28/2025 at 10:21 PM, X said: Suburban police are mostly pretty good to deal with. If you're white. Depends on the department if you are not. I've always found Maple Heights and Bedford to be pretty fair, regardless.
March 31Mar 31 On 3/28/2025 at 4:26 PM, KFM44107 said: It's been a slow year for most crimes. Good to hear. Homicide doesn't follow the main trend, as we have discussed.
March 31Mar 31 The city's change in demographics are directly contributing to a decline in crime rates, a trend that is expected to continue improving over the next 5-10 years.
March 31Mar 31 6 hours ago, E Rocc said: I'm assuming they were OK since you didn't say otherwise. This was in Lakewood, yes? I'd assume Cleveland since the only railroad bridge I know of on Lake is the one by Don's Lighthouse Inn.
March 31Mar 31 31 minutes ago, jam40jeff said: I'd assume Cleveland since the only railroad bridge I know of on Lake is the one by Don's Lighthouse Inn. Opposite of my experience with a "left turn in front of me" accident in Cleveland. Possibly due to a resulting disabled vehicle or a woman calling 911. Both are understandable.
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