^The strangest part of it all is that she peers in people's windows but I have never seen her say anything.  It almost seems as if she's looking into the cars but not looking at the people in them.  And she always passes between all the cars then just makes her way to the sidewalk and waits for the light to turn red again.  More so than annoying it intrigues me in a strange way just to know what the heck she is doing.

 

^^She probably could get ticketing for jaywalking anywhere with what she is doing.

I'm going to put this here for now, but it can probably be transferred to about 5-6 different threads, especially as more news comes out. 

 

2011 projected date.

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2008/04/cuyahoga_county_cleveland_clin.html

So what will become of the old Central Police Station (recently the Third District headquarters) with the CPD redistricting? See below...

__________________

 

For Immediate Release:

Saturday, May 3, 2008

Historic Building to Become Neighborhood

Center for Public Safety

 

CLEVELAND – On May 5, 2008, implementation of Mayor Frank G. Jackson’s plan for reinventing public safety in Cleveland will focus on redeploying police officers to five neighborhood-based districts. It will also mark the beginning of a transformation of the historic building at 2001 Payne Avenue into a central, neighborhood-focused public safety resource for the City of Cleveland. The building once housed the Central Police Headquarters, city jails and courts.

 

“This historic building will remain a symbol of safety for this community,” said Mayor Jackson. “The new police services provided at 2001 Payne Avenue help to maintain a strong police presence downtown and provide accessible public safety resources to residents and businesses.”

 

Beginning May 19, services provided at 2001 Payne will include the ability for citizens to walk in and make police reports, seven days a week from 9:00 AM to 11:00 PM. On May 5 the Bureaus of Traffic and Community Policing will be relocated from their current location at the Justice Center to 2001 Payne Avenue. Public safety programs such as D.A.R.E., G.R.E.A.T and the Auxiliary Police, as well as investigative units such as Accident Investigation and Hit-Skip are among the police-community support functions now moving into this neighborhood building.

 

By June 1, 2008, the newly forming Downtown Services Unit (DSU) will also move into the building. The 102 police officers transitioning to 2001 Payne Avenue will join sworn and civilian Safety Forces personnel assigned to the Communication Control Sections of the Divisions of Police, Fire and EMS currently housed in the building. In the future, the building is slated to also house the headquarters of the Emergency Medical Service.

The old 3rd district station will remain central dispatch, EMS offices will be moved there, and there will still be offices for CPD located there.

Nice.  Get the cops off their butts (this is not to say our police force is lazy) and on the streets and visible to the general population!

The old 3rd district station will remain central dispatch, EMS offices will be moved there, and there will still be offices for CPD located there.

 

Were you trying summarize the previous press release??   :lol:

JDD941 you work in the safety field, what do you think of this plan?

He's a fireman. He's affected only by the dispatching center consolidation.

Yeah, I know, I just thought he would know better than the average Clevelander if it is a good idea...I guess I hope that cops and firefighters talk about this kind of stuff...

  I think it is a very bad idea...it seems like more cops will be on the streets...but in effect, there will just be more one man (person) cars on the street.  Officers will be more hesitant to approach dangerous situations until backup can get there, which will actually slow response times.  I know, many people think that just because you have a badge and a gun, it shouldn't matter if you are alone or with two officers...but it really does in many situations.  Also, zone cars will be farther from the people they are protecting during times of shift change, report writing, station stops, etc...which is not good in my opinion.  Funny how city council feels MORE (as in council members) is better for representing the people, but as far as PROTECTING the people less is better (as in police districts).

 

As far as dispatch KJP, it has been consolidated for a few years now. (in one room that is)   Police have half of the room, EMS and fire the other.  In fact, EMS and fire only have a half wall seperating them...but when they try to coordinate it seems almost impossible (locaton off calls, nature of calls, and resources needed for mutual response)  I am not saying this to bitch, but rather to open your eyes as to how far behind the times our safety sevices really are in this city compared to many other cities of similar size. 

 

Even after 911, it was recommended that any city service that has multiple dispatch systems NOT be housed in one place  (Cleveland prior had seperate locations) because a terrorist act could wipe out ALL emergency communications...what did the city do?  They put ALL communications in one building, on the same floor, in the same room!  Baffles me!

I have an article in this week's (May 1) Sun about the police redeployment. JDD941's concerns are similar to those expressed by the union. Unfortunately Cleveland.com hasn't posted any of Sun's articles from May 1 -- probably since we instituted a new computer system this week that's slower, doesn't have all the tet coding in place, hasn't been tested with a dry run prior to publication and caused serious delivery problems. The end result is that it took us three days get all 22 of our newspapers out when it would normally take us one night.

 

See, conservatives think that private enterprise is more efficient than government. Really???

Loooovely :roll:

 

Woman stabbed during large fight downtown

 

Posted by Donna J. Miller May 12, 2008 14:23PM

Categories: Breaking News, Crime

 

A young woman was stabbed during a melee at East 21st Street and Euclid Avenue in Cleveland.

 

More at cleveland.com

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/05/woman_stabbed_during_large_fig.html

a knife, a bat and golf club.  Maybe this should have been posted in the sports forum  :?

Ah, memories of high school.  :-D

Ah, memories of high school.  :-D

 

What school did you attend?

I have an article in this week's (May 1) Sun about the police redeployment. JDD941's concerns are similar to those expressed by the union. Unfortunately Cleveland.com hasn't posted any of Sun's articles from May 1 -- probably since we instituted a new computer system this week that's slower, doesn't have all the tet coding in place, hasn't been tested with a dry run prior to publication and caused serious delivery problems. The end result is that it took us three days get all 22 of our newspapers out when it would normally take us one night.

 

See, conservatives think that private enterprise is more efficient than government. Really???

 

LOL this conservative thinks they are pretty close to equivalent where closed-end projects are concerned, such as construction, space launches, and wars.  It's open ended projects where the private sector wins.

Deadly mob beating unnerves Cleveland neighborhood

May 12 04:53 PM US/Eastern

By THOMAS J. SHEERAN

Associated Press Writer

 

CLEVELAND (AP) - Even by tough, urban-crime standards it was a grisly attack: Up to 15 people chased a man, then kicked and beat him to death on the street. Before police arrived, one attacker urinated on the victim's head.

 

When the crime-hardened neighborhood awoke later that morning, two people reported a man lying on the pavement, his clothes being dragged off by his assailants.

 

...

In retirement, she and her husband had hoped to enjoy simple pleasures: watching people pass by and planting flowers around their neatly kept home. But the violence in the neighborhood makes that impossible.

 

"You pay for your home. You work hard. You retire, and you want to enjoy, just come out on your porch and ... wait for the summertime to come," she said, shaking her head.

 

^Makes me think of my wife's grandmother.  Her neighborhood (Mt. Pleasant) isn't nearly as rough as the area described in the article, but it's quickly sliding downward.  It's sad when you think of those who have been in the neighborhood and raised their families there having to watch what's become of them in recent years.

Ah, memories of high school.  :-D

 

What school did you attend?

 

I attended high school in Mansfield, where I grew up.

Ah, memories of high school.  :-D

 

What school did you attend?

 

I attended high school in Mansfield, where I grew up.

Oh ok.  Interesting.

I saw a stat in today's PD print edition that we have had 39 murders so far this year. At this time last year, we had 53.

Hey, I'll take that as good news (kind of), though it's going to be a hot summer which unfortunately equals lots of bloodshed

Cleveland, U.S. show decline in major crime rates for 2007

Tuesday, June 10, 2008

Associated Press

 

...

 

In Cleveland, violent crimes dropped 8.4 percent and property crimes dropped 5.1 percent in 2007, according to FBI estimates based on provisional data.

 

Cleveland police reported drops in robberies (17.2 percent), rapes (15.4), felonious assaults with firearms (13.6) and burglaries (14.7). Despite the drops, Cleveland ranked as the 10th most-dangerous city in America, according to last year's CQ Press, which chose its list based on reports of murder, rape, burglary, robbery, aggravated assault and motor vehicle theft. Youngstown ranked 15th and Detroit took top honors.

 

...

 

Through May 31, homicides decreased 26.4 percent compared with statistics from the same time last year.

 

...

 

Drops also have been tallied for auto thefts (18.7 percent), assaults (15.6), robberies (9.6) and burglaries (0.6). Rapes, however, jumped from 175 to 234, a 25.2 percent increase.

 

...

 

Plain Dealer reporter Brian Anthony Hernandez contributed to this story.

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1213086667319390.xml&coll=2

I had noticed that murders and crime in general has been getting a lot less hysteria play on the news (not admitting to watching channel 19) this year compared to 2007. Thanks for the article that shows what I suspected is actually true.

 

Does anyone think that the Mayor Jackson's police policies have anything to do with this downturn in crime?

I had noticed that murders and crime in general has been getting a lot less hysteria play on the news (not admitting to watching channel 19) this year compared to 2007. Thanks for the article that shows what I suspected is actually true.

 

Does anyone think that the Mayor Jackson's police policies have anything to do with this downturn in crime?

 

Summer is where we see the greatest number of murders. Just give Channel 19 some time, they'll come up some hysteria for you.

Summer is where we seem the greatest number of murders. Just give Channel 19 some time, they'll come up some hysteria for you.

I swear I only watch because Letterman is on after the 11 o'clock news.

I always think it is weird there are more murders in the summer. I know people are outside more so I get why lots of other crimes go up-but Murder? I think winter is worse. all dark,depressing and couped up inside.

I always think it is weird there are more murders in the summer. I know people are outside more so I get why lots of other crimes go up-but Murder? I think winter is worse. all dark,depressing and couped up inside.

 

This is my 3rd summer in the OC. My bedroom looks onto and hears all that Detroit Ave has to offer. Once late May is upon us, I know that I'll be awaken at least once per weekend evening by some idiot. I can only remember two serious issues (a fist fight and some guy yelling for help). Still, summer is much more active on the streets.

lol^ they are still loud walking over the bridge. Luckily nothing serious, just loud mouths

Has anyone contacted the city regarding an issue (something relatively simple, in my case, street signs) and been successful in getting it resolved?  There's an intersection where I live in dire need of some signage that I've been trying to have rectified for months, but no luck - calls, voice mails, feedback form online...still no signs but still plenty of people making illegal turns and just as many getting ticketed for it (sometimes I wonder if they want the problem to continue to exist as it's an easy target...shocking how that intersection is heavily patrolled at the end of the month).  Anyone have any suggestions?

Contact Rob Mavec at the City.

Here's something interesting.  I was at the art walk last Friday in Little Italy and chilling with some of the "old school" residents (a great night overall by the way - wish I had gone to Little Italy more during my Case days).  We were talking about the new condos in the area (basically the residents were initially against it but no longer) and I asked about any concerns of crime with the surrounding poor areas. 

 

The LI residents I was speaking with (you know, the ones you see sitting outside when you drive down Mayfield - the kind of beefy, arms crossed, tough guy, FBI types) said they had at one point some issues/problems with East Clevelanders/Clevelanders but "took care of it on their own".  The message was pretty clear. 

 

I think it's great that this community came together and looked after each other, and I honestly could care less if some gangbanger had his legs broken or worse.  You hear about gangs just swamping neighborhoods endlessly in Slavic Village, East Cleveland, Mt. Pleasant, etc without any real resistance (really, what's an 85 year old lady going to do when confronted by the bad guys) or effective police response.  In Little Italy, however, they really do take of their own and it must be comforting for the FBI, college, and other residents alike.

 

 

FBI=Full Blooded Italians

According to a couple black friends of mine, Little Italy residents "take care" of their neighborhood by being openly racist.

 

I know at least two black guys who refuse to set foot  in that neighborhood. Thankfully, they've never been violently attacked.  But let's just say that they've been firmly warned on a number of occasions that they'd be better off not passing through the LI.

 

I'm fully in favor of taking care of one's neighborhood, but perhaps some people in Little Italy have gone overboard?

I think it's great that this community came together and looked after each other, and I honestly could care less if some gangbanger had his legs broken or worse.  You hear about gangs just swamping neighborhoods endlessly in Slavic Village, East Cleveland, Mt. Pleasant, etc without any real resistance (really, what's an 85 year old lady going to do when confronted by the bad guys) or effective police response.  In Little Italy, however, they really do take of their own and it must be comforting for the FBI, college, and other residents alike.

 

Residents looking out for one another is a good and worthy thing, but Little Italy is still a very uncomfortable place for my middle-income, professional black friends to visit.  I don't think that some of the FBI-types distinguish the difference between the "gangbangers" and somebody who wants to have a pleasant evening, free from harassment or hostile stares.

Agreed with the above.  None of my black friends will go to LI and have scary stories about those who have done so.

My brother-in-law (african-american) won't go there even though his mother has worked there for over a decade.

it's the inverse of why white people can't probably shouldn't go into some areas of the city.  It's just a highly unfortunate reality of our society (in any city).

My point was that it's great the residents take care of each other and the bad kids know to stay away.  If it's true that some of them are racist, then I would be awfully disappointed though I wouldn't judge an entire community for what may only be a few actions. 

 

Also, I will say there was a diverse mix of people at the Art Fair, though there were more whites than non.  I was with a black friend and his white girlfriend - the two were openly kissing and I didn't see any offended glares. 

According to a couple black friends of mine, Little Italy residents "take care" of their neighborhood by being openly racist.

 

I know at least two black guys who refuse to set foot  in that neighborhood. Thankfully, they've never been violently attacked.  But let's just say that they've been firmly warned on a number of occasions that they'd be better off not passing through the LI.

 

I'm fully in favor of taking care of one's neighborhood, but perhaps some people in Little Italy have gone overboard?

 

Bingo!  Although, Little Itally has "supposedly" changed.  As some of you wouldn't go down or feel comfortable on Woodland, I don't feel safe or comfortable in LI.

Oh please, if ColDay and I can hang out in LI, ANYone can!

Oh please, if ColDay and I can hang out in LI, ANYone can!

 

We're giving PDA's?  I'm sure I could hangout there, but I'll steer clear!

it's the inverse of why white people can't probably shouldn't go into some areas of the city.  It's just a highly unfortunate reality of our society (in any city).

 

I'm glad someone posted this.  I've certainly gone to places before where I could tell I was not welcomed both from a "eh...they can tell we're not locals, better leave now" way and a "we would prefer if you didn't patronize this place" way (I won't get specific - you can probably figure it out - but there is a place in the building where I live that can be like that at times.  It's kind of funny to walk in there on a Friday night.  I'm actually surprised no one came up to me and said "do you mind if we dance with your date?").  Anyway...

 

While I understand it's not really right, ultimately I'd rather have it that way than have everyone be indifferent.

 

Contact Rob Mavec at the City.

 

Thanks - that's were I started though.

Where do you live?

This is probably obvious, but have you contacted your councilperson?  With most stuff in the City, that's your first and best bet.

This is probably obvious, but have you contacted your councilperson?  With most stuff in the City, that's your first and best bet.

 

That is exactly what I was going to suggest.  Also, if you have community or block club.  The more people you have behind you the better your chance of having your issue resolved.

"do you MIND if we dance with your date?"

"Why, certainly"

"If I was you, I'd be...."

"LEAVING...what a great idea"

 

heh

 

As some of you wouldn't go down or feel comfortable on Woodland, I don't feel safe or comfortable in LI.

 

I agree that Little Italy can be uncomfortable for African-Americans.  While in college and walking through there with a friend, he had some racial slurs tossed at him by a couple of teenagers from the hood.

 

Overall, though, it's ridiculous to say it's like a white person walking down Woodland.  The racial issues may exist in both places, but beyond that, the extreme poverty and much higher crime rate on Woodland should make it far scarier for people of ANY race.

Just give Channel 19 some time, they'll come up some hysteria for you.

I swear I only watch because Letterman is on after the 11 o'clock news.

 

Watch Channel 3, then flip over. :)

Agreed with the above.  None of my black friends will go to LI and have scary stories about those who have done so.

 

To chime in as a former employee of a LI Restaurant. Its hit or miss and its definitely fading, but I still recall times where I was working and an African-American person would enter the restaurant, sure enough someone (a customer) would yell, "did it just get dark in here"?

 

Also, the LI Old Guard tried to take care of the condos coming in by repeatedly destroying and breaking equipment of the build. Because the outsiders were threatening their existence. And by "outsiders" I mean "Harmless White Catholic Suburbanites."