June 16, 201014 yr Hello, I am not from this planet... I need some clarification. Please help.....Now let's see if I have this straight......... So unless the human species has something fiddle/toil with, in exchange for these green pieces of paper with dead people's faces on them.... they resort to sticking guns into their brother's back.... and cannot find other more civil ways and means to survive in life? Wow!!!!, on our planet we got past that stage of evolution eons ago. These creatures called "humans" are still quite un-evolved here. Correct. Glad to see you are coming around on this issue. Really, just look at the 90's in Cleveand. Look at the crime rates. Look at the neighborhoods.
June 16, 201014 yr Restore the forests in "The Forest City" and release a million Brown Recluse spiders.. That should keep the idiots at bay. ;) Seriously... The area still holds a large population and crime crosses over the imaginary lines... It is also a mater of how well coordinated all the surrounding communities are in stomping out a lot of the crime. Yes, people need to report suspicious activity... and yes, there are many areas that have been hollowed out with no eyes on the streets. A great breeding ground for this crime. I wish these areas were invested in, built upon to attract a new population back into them. If only it were so simple.... It is simple. Bring low skilled light manufacturing jobs into these neighborhoods (at any cost) within walking or transit distance and watch crime plummet. "at any cost"? ::) I think I know that guy! He used to work with me at Bird Electronics in Solon! Was gainfully employed then.
June 16, 201014 yr Hey, it would be a start. At least you would be thinking about it instead of spending all your economic development staff's time, energy and budget chasing biotech jobs from Israel and fool's errand LED jobs from Asia. You might start to look to Michigan, Wisconsin, even exurb Columbus manufacturing that needs to expand. Look, I don't want to get suspended again so I will stop now. Let's take our lack of understanding of economic development clusters over to a more appropriate thread. Back on topic please.
June 16, 201014 yr Hello, I am not from this planet... I need some clarification. Please help.....Now let's see if I have this straight......... So unless the human species has something fiddle/toil with, in exchange for these green pieces of paper with dead people's faces on them.... they resort to sticking guns into their brother's back.... and cannot find other more civil ways and means to survive in life? Wow!!!!, on our planet we got past that stage of evolution eons ago. These creatures called "humans" are still quite un-evolved here. Correct. Glad to see you are coming around on this issue. Really, just look at the 90's in Cleveand. Look at the crime rates. Look at the neighborhoods. But you see.... On our planet...we will not lower our standards to appease the lower ones on this un-evolved satellite. We have come here to set higher ones or you will all be spanked! :whip:
June 16, 201014 yr Hello, I am not from this planet... I need some clarification. Please help.....Now let's see if I have this straight......... So unless the human species has something fiddle/toil with, in exchange for these green pieces of paper with dead people's faces on them.... they resort to sticking guns into their brother's back.... and cannot find other more civil ways and means to survive in life? Wow!!!!, on our planet we got past that stage of evolution eons ago. These creatures called "humans" are still quite un-evolved here. My biggest pet peeve...no accountability on the criminals. It's always someone else's fault...the people who left, the jobs that left...never the person who commits the crime. Never the person who doesn't maintain their property. Never the person who doesn't watch after the kids. Never the person who doesn't educate themselves beyond "low skilled manufacturing job". Change starts within. Couldn't agree more!
June 16, 201014 yr I agree that change starts from within.... and what SHS is basically saying... There is one element, however that we cannot leave out... and that is, the fact that if we are not producing a healthy, well mannered, critically thinking and articulate populace, then we will not have parents who will likely instill values in individuals that can foster this very important "change from within" component. What follows and as a result.... are a lot of people who are simply lost...who will produce kids who are lost and so on...vicious cycle. (kiddies out at 2:00 AM with diapers on...parents nowhere in sight...or parents walking 50 feet in front of toddlers not paying attention to them on busy streets) Producing this sort of population...might have something to do with who or WHAT is really raising our children.... Is it parents who know how to be good parents and who have been shown role model examples that have socially redeeming value? OR.... Is it all too often, an unaccountable and very powerful media/marketing/television machine that often glamorizes, makes look "cool"... or sugarcoats stupidity... anti-social/lawless behavior or self destructive lifestyles (physically, mentally, socially)...while making being otherwise look like you're a sissy? Here is just one example of unaccountability/social irresponsibility in the marketing place...Have a look at these dandy ads.... http://www.noiseoff.org/ads.php where not one thing is said about a music delivery system---rather--a "noise weapon" is being promoted! I'll bet not one CEO of the company who producs these products would want to live next to the punks who use this crap. Sadly, low self-esteem impressionable youths fall for this sort of crap as though it makes them somebody. The company cashes in at their expense. This is the sort of thing to wise up to and "just say NO" on the social responsibility end of the scale....because such "vulture-istic" (made that word up!) ad campaigns will not change anytime soon unless their is public pressure put on them. At the end of the day, however, those who wish to be poops in our neighborhoods, need to pay the price.
June 16, 201014 yr Hello, I am not from this planet... I need some clarification. Please help.....Now let's see if I have this straight......... So unless the human species has something fiddle/toil with, in exchange for these green pieces of paper with dead people's faces on them.... they resort to sticking guns into their brother's back.... and cannot find other more civil ways and means to survive in life? Wow!!!!, on our planet we got past that stage of evolution eons ago. These creatures called "humans" are still quite un-evolved here. My biggest pet peeve...no accountability on the criminals. It's always someone else's fault...the people who left, the jobs that left...never the person who commits the crime. Never the person who doesn't maintain their property. Never the person who doesn't watch after the kids. Never the person who doesn't educate themselves beyond "low skilled manufacturing job". Change starts within. Couldn't agree more! ... with the highlighted statement, yes (which is why I assume you highlighted it). But the rest of the post is a GROSS exaggeration. "no accountability"? none? really? Why do we have prisons, probation departments, ankle bracelots.... ummmm.... electric chairs? Try going into court and telling the sentencing judge that "I committed the crime because I lost my job"... or "my daddy left"... or "my wife beats me" and see if the "woe is me" argument leads to zero accountability for your criminal actions.
June 16, 201014 yr Of course economic development would help. And yes, lack of it is the main driver of crime around here. I think that's best addressed at the regional, state, and national levels though. What the city needs to do, and can do, is take a different approach to policing. No more traffic safety division. No more sitting around scanning plates. Get out of the cruisers and be present on the street. We've got to reintroduce foot patrols to areas that haven't seen them in years.
June 17, 201014 yr Excuse me while I go hit the "Bring low skilled light manufacturing jobs button". You should see that happening any second now. Hey, it would be a start. At least you would be thinking about it instead of spending all your economic development staff's time, energy and budget chasing biotech jobs from Israel and fool's errand LED jobs from Asia. You might start to look to Michigan, Wisconsin, even exurb Columbus manufacturing that needs to expand. Look, I don't want to get suspended again so I will stop now. Except that there is a reason these jobs went to the suburbs, exurbs, overseas.. chasing biotech is a pretty smart move, what with the Clinic, UH, Case all sitting at the circle. That's the future. You won't see manufacturing jobs back in this region without ties to biotech for the most part. Not to mention manufacturing has been moving away from labor toward automation for a while. I sat in on a discussion at State Chemical a while ago talking about how manufacturing productivity in this region has gone up a good deal while it's labor pool had dropped. Not to mention that the manufacturing jobs that are available in the city are often times hard to actually fill with the residents (talk to employers, you will hear that story more than a few times). So you get an unemployed, uneducated, dispersed population in as competitive a job market as we've had since perhaps the great depression, with few ways out for most. Pretty hopeless situation. The only way to solve it is basically sacrificing multiple generations for the good of the future.. and there's a tough sell if ever there was one. I guess my point is that you won't see a return to a place where a High School diploma affords you a middle class lifestyle as it once did in the manufacturing heyday. So the notion that you just need those kinds of jobs in the city to curb crime, to me, isn't a valid one because it ain't gonna happen. 327's idea is much better. More foot patrols more cops on the beat. Perhaps bring in the bicycle patrols you see in cities like Boston.
June 17, 201014 yr Excuse me while I go hit the "Bring low skilled light manufacturing jobs button". You should see that happening any second now. Hey, it would be a start. At least you would be thinking about it instead of spending all your economic development staff's time, energy and budget chasing biotech jobs from Israel and fool's errand LED jobs from Asia. You might start to look to Michigan, Wisconsin, even exurb Columbus manufacturing that needs to expand. Look, I don't want to get suspended again so I will stop now. Except that there is a reason these jobs went to the suburbs, exurbs, overseas.. chasing biotech is a pretty smart move, what with the Clinic, UH, Case all sitting at the circle. That's the future. You won't see manufacturing jobs back in this region without ties to biotech for the most part. Not to mention manufacturing has been moving away from labor toward automation for a while. I sat in on a discussion at State Chemical a while ago talking about how manufacturing productivity in this region has gone up a good deal while it's labor pool had dropped. Not to mention that the manufacturing jobs that are available in the city are often times hard to actually fill with the residents (talk to employers, you will hear that story more than a few times). So you get an unemployed, uneducated, dispersed population in as competitive a job market as we've had since perhaps the great depression, with few ways out for most. Pretty hopeless situation. The only way to solve it is basically sacrificing multiple generations for the good of the future.. and there's a tough sell if ever there was one. I guess my point is that you won't see a return to a place where a High School diploma affords you a middle class lifestyle as it once did in the manufacturing heyday. So the notion that you just need those kinds of jobs in the city to curb crime, to me, isn't a valid one because it ain't gonna happen. 327's idea is much better. More foot patrols more cops on the beat. Perhaps bring in the bicycle patrols you see in cities like Boston. Amazing how you all are willing to just throw other human beings away in favor of your utopian high tech economy where everybody has an engineering degree. What are you going to do with these people in the mean time? Incarcerate all of them? Because that is what you are going to have to do. If they are not at least marginally employed, they will commit crime.
June 17, 201014 yr and I think discussions in advancements in technology are getting a tad off the topic of Cleveland Crime... gracias. ;)
June 17, 201014 yr and I think discussions in advancements in technology are getting a tad off the topic of Cleveland Crime... gracias. ;) I love that the Mayor bilingual
June 17, 201014 yr Unfortunately I think most of the people committing crimes or hanging around on corners at one in the afternoon don't have the basic job skills for any job. I'm talking showing up- on time, sober, and not threatening your boss or coworkers, communicating basic needs and problems, etc.
June 17, 201014 yr ^Agree...I work in criminal defense and most of our clients can't remember their court dates.
June 17, 201014 yr ^Agree...I work in criminal defense and most of our clients can't remember their court dates. "can't remember" or dont want to show up period? There is a big difference.
June 17, 201014 yr I was at the courthouse standing in line (for an hour) to file a not guilty form on my latest speeding ticket, and I couldn't BELIEVE the conversations going on with the folks standing in line talking to each other. Oh, I hope this is a ticket I can just pay on because I told the cop I didn't have my ins card with me, but I don't have ins, so if I have to go to court I will get ANOTHER suspended license, so I want to just pay and get out. Oh, I got a ticket on my 18th birthday and I had to go to court about it, but when the day came to go to court, I didn't have any gas in my car so I didn't go. Then they issued a warrant and now I got another ticket. Oh, I didn't have the $ for my ticket so my license was suspended, and then I had to pay twice as much to get my license reinstated, I hope I don't have to do that again because I don't have it. And I didn't put any money in the meter so I want this line to hurry up so I don't get a parking ticket on top of it. Seriously, WTF IS THE MATTER WITH PEOPLE? How can you just drive around with no car insurance, or not go to court on a day you're supposed to go? It's unfathomable.
June 17, 201014 yr ^Both. The amount of indifference our clients display is unreal. Most of them think it's a big joke until sentencing rolls around.
June 17, 201014 yr I was at the courthouse standing in line (for an hour) to file a not guilty form on my latest speeding ticket, and I couldn't BELIEVE the conversations going on with the folks standing in line talking to each other. Oh, I hope this is a ticket I can just pay on because I told the cop I didn't have my ins card with me, but I don't have ins, so if I have to go to court I will get ANOTHER suspended license, so I want to just pay and get out. Oh, I got a ticket on my 18th birthday and I had to go to court about it, but when the day came to go to court, I didn't have any gas in my car so I didn't go. Then they issued a warrant and now I got another ticket. Oh, I didn't have the $ for my ticket so my license was suspended, and then I had to pay twice as much to get my license reinstated, I hope I don't have to do that again because I don't have it. And I didn't put any money in the meter so I want this line to hurry up so I don't get a parking ticket on top of it. Seriously, WTF IS THE MATTER WITH PEOPLE? How can you just drive around with no car insurance, or not go to court on a day you're supposed to go? It's unfathomable. Excuse people use to get away with crap. If you cannot afford insurance then you're ass shouldn't be driving - PERIOD! and I dont want to hear how that will limit someone opportunity to find a job, etc. Stop making excuses. Do what youR suppose to do, so you dont have to do "what I gotta do"! It's not only Cleveland.
June 23, 201014 yr I'll defy anybody else to come up with another neighborhood or community that can mobilize 250+ people in a week to address safety issues, and do so productively. Tremont residents meet to plan, fight crime, boost neighborhood safety Published: Monday, June 21, 2010, 10:32 PM Updated: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 9:59 AM Michael Scott, The Plain Dealer CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The lights of Tremont shined even brighter Monday. Tremont's people and the politicians -- and the police charged with keeping the eclectic and popular Cleveland neighborhood safe -- gathered to rally and brainstorm for several hours in a church hall in response to the recent shooting of a well-known artist. http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/06/tremont_community_gathers_to_d.html
June 23, 201014 yr That is really impressive Avogadro. That just proves what a tight knit community it is. We saw similar action after Grumpy's burned and the accident happened with the Sokolowski's son. It certainly is comforting when something happens that could just as well scare people out of a neighborhood that they are coming together instead, and do everything to not allow it to happen again.
June 23, 201014 yr Good for the citizens of tremont. Below is an interesting series of comments from the CLE.com article . I have been wondering lately how the busting up of the mob in the 70's and 80's caused an increase in random street crime. "ecbeastor June 22, 2010 at 10:32AM Crime was lower 100 years ago because anyone who didn't look like you was beaten and never dared going into some other groups neighborhood. Just imagine a black or Puerto Rican trying to walk down Murray Hill & Mayfield in the 1950s or down Fleet & E 71st in the 1950s. They would have been chased out by grown men upon first sight. And it wasn't just racist attitudes either. Poor vagrants were also outcasted and forced onto the fringes of society living in shanty towns along the Cuyahoga river. People were much less accepting of what they considered undesirables and were very involved in violently extracting and repelling them from their neighborhoods. The U.S.A. wasn't some safe utopia 60 years ago and it there was no such thing as equality. Maybe we should get organized crime in Tremont to patrol the streets and keep all the thugs out. It worked 60 years ago in other neihborhoods so long as you turned a blind eye to the Mafia's crimes and you paid your protection money. redbrickbarn June 22, 2010 at 11:17AM That's how it works in Montreal. Lowest crime rate in North America. Montreal Mafia and Hell's Angels run the city. About 30 murders per year for 2.7 million people. And most of the murders are disagreements between them. Has little to do with the safety of the average citizen.
June 23, 201014 yr I'd prefer we deputize squads of volunteer Guardian Angels type groups and have them walk around mid and high crime neighborhoods in exchange for some kind of tax breaks/benefits - kind of a vastly expanded, proactive community watch. There wouldn't be as much as crime if people are walking around - New York did something similar after 9/11 where the city (or maybe Port Authority) organized people (don't know if they were paid) to walk around wearing police/security guard like apparel. It gave residents and tourists a sense of calm and security. If we had that kind of group presence in Cleveland, there would be fewer incidents. And good for the Tremont residents! And Cleveland.com said somewhere that the artist was improving and in good spirits, so that is also uplifting. Of course, there are problem spots, generally public housing at Tremonte Parte, and I don't know how to solve those issues without going extreme.
June 23, 201014 yr guys take it to PM if you want to continue that discussion. Reguarding Tremont. Even if police are on foot, or if patrols are increased, crimes like this can still occur. Simply police can not be everywhere all the time. I don't know if the people at TWDC have looked into (I'm sure they have) or are serious about forming a SID... but I truly hope they are. In a time when most municipal budgets are stretched thin, privatizing a clean and safe type service or people wearing bright colors constantly out creating more "eyes on the street" becomes more and more necessary. No need to have the mob involved when you can do this legally.
June 23, 201014 yr Well, of course the ones that aren't writing parking tickets or setting up speed traps. And the ones that aren't medically unfit for service. Hmmm, maybe CCW isn't looking so bad after all... You still haven't answered my question about what good a weapon would have done the artist that got shot in Tremont.
June 23, 201014 yr guys take it to PM if you want to continue that discussion. Reguarding Tremont. Even if police are on foot, or if patrols are increased, crimes like this can still occur. Simply police can not be everywhere all the time. I don't know if the people at TWDC have looked into (I'm sure they have) or are serious about forming a SID... but I truly hope they are. In a time when most municipal budgets are stretched thin, privatizing a clean and safe type service or people wearing bright colors constantly out creating more "eyes on the street" becomes more and more necessary. No need to have the mob involved when you can do this legally. Likely in Tremont it would be a best bet for the establishments to go in-together on hiring some security to have a presence on the street. I dont see how a BID would really work there with the scattering of establishments.
June 23, 201014 yr Artist recovering from shooting in Cleveland's Tremont neighborhood stays in good spirits Published: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 7:00 AM Tonya Sams, The Plain Dealer Follow Share this story Story tools Chiplis is overwhelmed by all of the support he has received. "The numbers of astronomical support is reassuring, fulfilling, that something good can come out of something bad." "I want to thank the staff at MetroHealth for putting me back together," Chiplis said. "The staff is great." Chiplis kept his composure during the news conference until he was asked how was it possible for him to keep such a great attitude after what happened to him. "It's the people's love and support all over the world," Chiplis said, holding back tears. "It has really deeply inspired me." http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/06/tremont_artist_stays_in_good_s.html
June 23, 201014 yr Doesn't necessarily have to be a BID. Downtown is a SID, special improvement district, as opposed to a business improvement district, encompassing all property owners including residential ones. Tremont inside the highway looks to be about a third of the downtown SID. I think it could be sold, and I think it could be incredibly effective.
June 23, 201014 yr Doesn't necessarily have to be a BID. Downtown is a SID, special improvement district, as opposed to a business improvement district, encompassing all property owners including residential ones. Tremont inside the highway looks to be about a third of the downtown SID. I think it could be sold, and I think it could be incredibly effective. I guess Im not really sure what the difference is. What makes downtown not a BID (yes residential buildings)? But, its still a business district. We were encouraged a long time ago not to call them SID's (mainly due to other definitions). Its one thing to incorporate an apartment building but quite another to incorporate single family homes. Hasnt been done much.
June 23, 201014 yr If I'm not mistaken condo owners (property owners) pay assesments as well, where as the building owners for apartment buildings would pay the assesment. I would think the main difference would be that in a business improvement district only the businesses would pay and in a SID all entities pay. (Granted I'm making assumptions here, I am certainly not an expert in this). I know that you need a 60% passage rate to put the district together. So I see it with two possibilities. Establish boundaries for the district. costs for the district get divided amongst property owners (residents included) ased on street frontage. would 60% of the of the property owners buy into this? I don't know but its worth a try. Would you be interested in paying a few hundred dollars a year to have a 24/7 safety presence directly connected to police walking your neighborhood? If support can not be obtained, a more traditional BID, with very different boundaries would need to be drawn up probably based around literary and professor. again, I don't know if there would be enough support to pass as large an area as say w.14th to w. 5th, starkweather to University. But shouldn't someone look into what those costs would be and just see if there's any interest? I mean... I know I would be willing to pay for that sort of piece of mind. As far as I'm concerned the clean and safe component of the SID has completely changed downtown.
June 23, 201014 yr I would think the main difference would be that in a business improvement district only the businesses would pay and in a SID all entities pay. (Granted I'm making assumptions here, I am certainly not an expert in this). I know that you need a 60% passage rate to put the district together. So I see it with two possibilities. Establish boundaries for the district. costs for the district get divided amongst property owners (residents included) ased on street frontage. would 60% of the of the property owners buy into this? I don't know but its worth a try. Would you be interested in paying a few hundred dollars a year to have a 24/7 safety presence directly connected to police walking your neighborhood? If support can not be obtained, a more traditional BID, with very different boundaries would need to be drawn up probably based around literary and professor. again, I don't know if there would be enough support to pass as large an area as say w.14th to w. 5th, starkweather to University. But shouldn't someone look into what those costs would be and just see if there's any interest? I mean... I know I would be willing to pay for that sort of piece of mind. As far as I'm concerned the clean and safe component of the SID has completely changed downtown. There is really no difference between the two. Its just the preference for what they want to call it, and usually now they are just called BID's in the U.S. (Im really surprised downtown is using the term SID). Not saying it cant be done there, and I dont recall the exact makeup of that street (wouldnt likely work for a larger area there due to the mixed income levels), and it would be unusual to incorporate single family homes in an area that isnt a definate and defined district (tend to be highly gentrified areas if so). Tremont West should be able to get an intern from CSU to look into further.
June 23, 201014 yr and I guess thats my point. it may or may not work, but I sincerely hope it is being thoroughly examined.
June 23, 201014 yr And I guess since you claimed to not be an expert on the matter, Im sharing what I have learned from studying and working with BID's around the country for 15+ yrs. BID's have almost always been successful where established, but there's sometimes better ways to achieve a similar goal (especially in an area like Tremont). Im trying to show where these types of mechanisms havent had success in establishing (and where other methods that could be used)... but do study away in the meantime (just hopefully in that meantime, the business establishments will come together to hire some security)...
June 23, 201014 yr also... police do patrol tremont. but there can not be a police officer on ever corner of every street 24 hours a day. This took place in the middle of the night at an incredibly poorly lit, borderline abandoned intersection. Yes there are pricey condos and entertainment just 'up the hill', but if you've ever been down there, that 'just up the hill' is a long, long, long way away if you are by yourself in the pitch black of night. That's why we need community safety patrols and better lighting. BTW, the guy who was shot was in the Plain Dealer today. He's 58-years-old. Two guys have to shoot the guy twice in the back as he's running away? What cowards... The article said he has nothing bad or negative to say about Tremont. Sounds like he's staying in the area. My friends' house in Ohio City got burglarized and my Twinsburg friend said, "So, you're going to move now, right?" Uh, no.
June 23, 201014 yr Why should he provide statistical proof? Half of the stuff on urbanohio.com is anecdotal. I think it's more like 35 percent.
June 23, 201014 yr ^^Tell you Twinsburg friend he should check out the number of armed robbiers in Solon this past year.
June 23, 201014 yr And I guess since you claimed to not be an expert on the matter, Im sharing what I have learned from studying and working with BID's around the country for 15+ yrs. BID's have almost always been successful where established, but there's sometimes better ways to achieve a similar goal (especially in an area like Tremont). Im trying to show where these types of mechanisms havent had success in establishing (and where other methods that could be used)... but do study away in the meantime (just hopefully in that meantime, the business establishments will come together to hire some security)... Well I am always glad to here from people that have expertise in subject areas :) Seriously, I guess I keep thinking that Tremont and Ohio City seem like almost the perfect neighborhoods for such a program even if they would be considered "unconventional" SID/BID's. And I'm not much of one for just saying it can't be done. I want to know why it couldn't, and even then try to adapt the program so it could. It could be something that other neighborhoods around the country use as a model... but yes, establishments should come together to hire security regardless. that's just common sense.
June 23, 201014 yr Well Ohio City should be ready for one (in the business district). They had trouble there when they initially tried due to many absentee building owners and "slum" building owners that certainly couldnt be sold on the benefits of being assessed additional $$$, when they were not willing to spend anything on their buildings. They also had a great deal of resistance from the WSM. But now I think it could be pieced together to pass there.
June 23, 201014 yr Well, of course the ones that aren't writing parking tickets or setting up speed traps. And the ones that aren't medically unfit for service. Hmmm, maybe CCW isn't looking so bad after all... You still haven't answered my question about what good a weapon would have done the artist that got shot in Tremont. I don't know the specifics of the situation to answer the question. But the idea is that simply the possibility existing that a thug or group of thugs might get injured or kill would act as a deterrent. In some situations, sure, the fact that one is armed isn't going to make a difference. But in a lot of situations, it will. Just because it's not 100% effective doesn't mean that it wouldn't work.
July 1, 201014 yr Glad to see the two scumbags were nabbed, and hope they get the book thrown at them. Anybody who would pull this kind of sh!t is beyond rehabilitation. 5 people injured by 2 robbers during a movie at Shaker Square Cinemas Published: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 2:05 PM Updated: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 7:19 PM Donna J. Miller, Plain Dealer reporter Two suspects who are accused of assaulting five people during a robbery Tuesday night at the Shaker Square Cinemas were arrested Wednesday. Lawrence Butler, 22, and Jazzalyn Primous, 19, both of Cleveland, were arrested at East 115th St. and Harvey Avenue at 12:05 p.m. Police said that Butler demanded the victims' wallets and purses, while Primous struck them on the head with an unknown object, seriously injuring two of the victims. All five were taken to Huron Hospital. http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/06/5_people_were_injured_by_two_r.html clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
July 8, 201014 yr Extra partols for Downtown tonight :cry: * ESPN: LeBron Show May Cause 'Violence' In Ohio. With ESPN handing over an hour of airtime to LeBron James tonight, ESPN's Shelley Smith reported on the same network this afternoon that in advance of the James-ESPN production "fear has given way to a rising anger" among Clevelanders and "there could be violence tonight" throughout the city. Smith added that Cleveland police have bolstered downtown patrols in anticipation of any violence that could erupt in response to events playing out on the James-ESPN show. http://outofbounds.nbcsports.com/2010/07/thursday-blogdome-14.html.php
July 9, 201014 yr What the hell kind of headline is this? Did I miss the videos of the impassioned pleas to remain calm from the local :police:? Do people really expect us to set fire to the Q or riot in the streets if LBJ leaves? Thursday Blogdome: Cleveland police plead for calm as LeBron decision nears http://outofbounds.nbcsports.com/2010/07/thursday-blogdome-14.html.php#comments
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