I mean it shows that in the past 6 months there has been like 29 breaking and entering crimes.  That seems a litte high though

B&E is the biggest problem I hear about from my friends who live there, though I only have a dozen or so. One couple I know was broken into 3 times and their cars more times than that.  I personally would move after being burglarized 3 different times.

B&E is the biggest problem I hear about from my friends who live there, though I only have a dozen or so. One couple I know was broken into 3 times and their cars more times than that. I personally would move after being burglarized 3 different times.

 

That seems like a big problem. Does anybody who lives in Tremont have anything to say? How apparent is it?

I lived in Tremont for five years up until last month and never heard much about B&E (excepth for the one horrible one this summer).  You would definitely see broken glass from cars after a weekend night, although we parked on the street for all five of those years and never had any problems.

MayDay lives in Tremont and I have relatives there.

 

If there was bad crime or overwhelming B&E - I'm confident -MayDay would have spoken about it.

 

The crimes I hear about are things that can happen in any neighborhood, urban or suburban.

FYI, Burglary is when someone breaks into an occupied structure such as a home, hotel room, apartment. B & E is when someone breaks into an unoccupied structure such as a tool shed, a house which is currently vacant but not abandoned, etc. Technically, I do believe cars can be considered B & E, however the city mandates we write up the report as a criminal trespass motor vehicle, to lower the true crime stats from what it should be. Just like stolen vehicles recovered are not written as such, they are considered "property found" to again show less negative stats

oooh, this is good info.

FYI, Burglary is when someone breaks into an occupied structure such as a home, hotel room, apartment. B & E is when someone breaks into an unoccupied structure such as a tool shed, a house which is currently vacant but not abandoned, etc. Technically, I do believe cars can be considered B & E, however the city mandates we write up the report as a criminal trespass motor vehicle, to lower the true crime stats from what it should be. Just like stolen vehicles recovered are not written as such, they are considered "property found" to again show less negative stats

 

Most of the breaking and entering says RES. Only a few say NON RES. Im not sure if that means residence but i think it does

FYI, Burglary is when someone breaks into an occupied structure such as a home, hotel room, apartment. B & E is when someone breaks into an unoccupied structure such as a tool shed, a house which is currently vacant but not abandoned, etc. Technically, I do believe cars can be considered B & E, however the city mandates we write up the report as a criminal trespass motor vehicle, to lower the true crime stats from what it should be. Just like stolen vehicles recovered are not written as such, they are considered "property found" to again show less negative stats

 

Wow. Just goes to show u statistics can lie.

Is there any way to track the "criminal trespass motor vehicle" reports?

"That seems like a big problem. Does anybody who lives in Tremont have anything to say? How apparent is it?"

 

I mostly hear about car break-ins, and that's usually near the Professor Street strip. More often than not, someone foolishly left a GPS/Purse/iPod out in plain sight - had a few too many drinks and left their car overnight. As far as residential, it's usually something unsecured getting swiped from a porch, garage or yard and sure, I've heard of a few isolated cases where a door was left unlocked and someone took advantage of that. You can't stop someone who is absolutely hellbent but most of the jack@ss perps are looking to grab whatever they can, as quickly as they can, without being detected so they can sell it for money for cheap booze or drugs. Every obstacle you can put in place - locking doors, installing alarms, etc. gives them one more reason to move on to an easier target.

 

What boggles my mind are people who live in a neighborhood like Tremont and think nothing of leaving doors/windows unlocked overnight, or leaving their valuables in plain sight in their car. In an ideal world, we wouldn't need to but that's not reality. I mean, I grew up in a small town of 10,000 people and we NEVER left the car, house, etc. unlocked.

 

"That seems like a big problem. Does anybody who lives in Tremont have anything to say? How apparent is it?"

 

I mostly hear about car break-ins, and that's usually near the Professor Street strip. More often than not, someone foolishly left a GPS/Purse/iPod out in plain sight - had a few too many drinks and left their car overnight. As far as residential, it's usually something unsecured getting swiped from a porch, garage or yard and sure, I've heard of a few isolated cases where a door was left unlocked and someone took advantage of that. You can't stop someone who is absolutely hellbent but most of the jack@ss perps are looking to grab whatever they can, as quickly as they can, without being detected so they can sell it for money for cheap booze or drugs. Every obstacle you can put in place - locking doors, installing alarms, etc. gives them one more reason to move on to an easier target.

 

What boggles my mind are people who live in a neighborhood like Tremont and think nothing of leaving doors/windows unlocked overnight, or leaving their valuables in plain sight in their car. In an ideal world, we wouldn't need to but that's not reality. I mean, I grew up in a small town of 10,000 people and we NEVER left the car, house, etc. unlocked.

 

 

Thanks! Im glad to hear its not actual home break ins. LIke smashed doors or windows :lol:

What boggles my mind are people who live in a neighborhood like Tremont and think nothing of leaving doors/windows unlocked overnight, or leaving their valuables in plain sight in their car. In an ideal world, we wouldn't need to but that's not reality. I mean, I grew up in a small town of 10,000 people and we NEVER left the car, house, etc. unlocked.

 

Not to go too far off topic, but I have different rules I follow depending on where I am.  At home (the flats) I don't ever leave my car parked outside of the garage overnight, let alone unlocked or with anything sitting out.

 

Parked in my parents driveway in Aurora, my car is generally unlocked with everything sitting out in plain view.  If I go to the store in Aurora, I lock the car but don't put anything away (I leave the face plate for my satellite radio in, for example).

 

Then the farthest end of the spectrum - my car on Put-in-Bay is presently unlocked with the keys in the car. 

 

But I just want to point out the "it happens in every urban area" is a really lame argument.  Because there are places where it doesn't happen, where you can leave your keys in your vehicle even, and having that element of safety will make people sacrifice many of the benefits associated with living in an urban area.  That seems to get lost on this forum, especially when I see the "it happens in ever urban area" justification.

Very true. 

^^When I moved onto my street 6 years ago my neighbors all raved about how there never has been a break in or any crime really.  I left my car unlocked, for the most part, for the past 6 years and always felt secure doing so.  Hell... I even left my wallet in the dashbox more than a few times.  It was broken into 2 weeks ago.

 

And I hope you are not suggesting that Aurora is an "urban neighborhood".  If you can show me a truly urban neighborhood, anywhere, that doesn't have crime, I would love to know where that is.

Just to counter point SHS, it happens out in the exurbs and suburbs all the time too. My boss who lives in Medina (and not in a development, sort of stand alone street) had 2 of his cars broken into 6 months ago, they pried open the sun roof on one. Hell it happens out in the boonies where my parents live, not enough to make them lock the doors on their cars but it still happens semi regularly.

 

Like Mayday said, the guys breaking into cars are looking for the easiest marks..be smart.

 

Of course, I live on a nice street but with high foot traffic so I try to always lock my doors on my car. Just in case.

 

It does happen everywhere, urban or not.  I lived in Hudson in high school and I knew kids that would go into unlocked cars and garages and steal stuff.  We are not talking about career criminals here, but kids will be kids (not that that's an excuse to steal).

 

Even in Aurora, I would absolutely lock my car doors.  And most cars these days have autolocks on the key or keyring, so if anyone has this and does not lock their doors, that' s just pretty damn lazy.

I would say that the majority of car break ins, even in urban areas are kids.

 

I live in Lakewood and we have some problems of our own, but it seems like everytime there is a coordinated string of burglaries the perps tend to be from somewhere else and are taking adavantage of the combination of semi-relaxed attitudes of the residents and the high foot traffic/activity of the area.

 

(Side note:Smith, I am not sure how old you are, but were at Hudson when those kids were busted buying a ridiculous amounts of drugs for the prom after party a few years back? I think they had something like 20 sheets of blotter acid and a ton of coke and pills)

I don't know when that was, I graduated 98.  There were plenty of drugs when I was there, but more pot, acid, shrooms, etc.  I don't think coke and pills were as prevalent in those days (at least as far as I knew).

And I hope you are not suggesting that Aurora is an "urban neighborhood".  If you can show me a truly urban neighborhood, anywhere, that doesn't have crime, I would love to know where that is.

Nope, Aurora is not urban at all.  But for all the reasons given why to live in Tremont over Aurora, I am saying relative safety of Aurora will trump many of the reasons to live in Tremont for many people.  The "well, those things happen in urban areas" is exactly why people don't live in urban areas - they don't want to deal with them, period.

Just to counter point SHS, it happens out in the exurbs and suburbs all the time too. My boss who lives in Medina (and not in a development, sort of stand alone street) had 2 of his cars broken into 6 months ago, they pried open the sun roof on one. Hell it happens out in the boonies where my parents live, not enough to make them lock the doors on their cars but it still happens semi regularly.

 

Yes, happens everywhere.  But how many days in a row can you leave your car unlocked, on the street in front of your house, with your iPod sitting in the front seat before it gets stolen in Tremont vs. Medina?  Your margin for error is less in the suburbs. 

 

Factor in young kids who may be wondering around neighborhoods on bikes or with friends and what is your margin of error, as a parent, for losing track of them for a couple minutes in Medina compared to Tremont?

Density, it's a statistical trade off...I don't have an answer...be smart depending on your surrounding.

 

I don't know when that was, I graduated 98.  There were plenty of drugs when I was there, but more pot, acid, shrooms, etc.  I don't think coke and pills were as prevalent in those days (at least as far as I knew).

 

I am thinking it was around 2002, I seem to remember being in my old apartment when I read about it. I left OU in 2001 and the coke scene was just starting back up.

I hate suburbs but I do know they they are generally safer. There is a lot of weed out in Eastlake and Willoughby high schools, just adding that in.

Name one HS where there ISN'T "a lot" of weed.  There certainly was at Heights.... however, there was not nearly the coke, acid, shrooms, etc. I saw in abundance my freshman year at US.  Heights kids usually only "got five on it" and that won't get you very far with any of the heavier drugs.  Socioeconomics and drugs become a bigger problem once the kids graduate IMO, because the one's that can't afford coke, turn to crack if they really want to throw their lives away.  And the one's that can afford coke, usually have parents that can afford $50,000 for rehab or nearly that much for a good defense attorney capable of either beating the charges or getting any conviction expunged. 

Name one HS where there ISN'T "a lot" of weed.  There certainly was at Heights.... however, there was not nearly the coke, acid, shrooms, etc. I saw in abundance my freshman year at US.  Heights kids usually only "got five on it" and that won't get you very far with any of the heavier drugs.  Socioeconomics and drugs become a bigger problem once the kids graduate IMO, because the one's that can't afford coke, turn to crack if they really want to throw their lives away.  And the one's that can afford coke, usually have parents that can afford $50,000 for rehab or nearly that much for a good defense attorney capable of either beating the charges or getting any conviction expunged. 

 

Although this belong is suburban crime.

 

Agree and the schools that you think wouldn't be big "drug dens" are.  Hathaway Brown, Shaker, US, Heights, Beachwood, Benedictine were some of the worst when I was in High School.  You could get anything at Shaker or Heights, since a lot of kid parents are/were doctors.

 

*looks harder into homeschooling*

*looks harder into homeschooling*

 

I think home training is the trick.  I've never done drugs or smoked and I drink on special occasions.  If you instill whats right in your kids, they will do the right thing.

that's crap. My parents did their best to instill the right things. It worked 100% with my sister, not at all with me.

that's crap. My parents did their best to instill the right things. It worked 100% with my sister, not at all with me.

It's not crap.  Im a goodie two shoes and tattle tail!  When were in college and something would happen at the house, my uncle would always ask me, "what happened" cause everyone knew I was gonna spill the beans and sing like a canary!

 

Same thing applies in my office, I always tell me staff to tell me BEFORE I find out something from someone on the outside.  I had to go to Miami to fire someone on Wednesday.  I don't play that!

You're perfect, we all know :)  Back on topic!

Name one HS where there ISN'T "a lot" of weed.  There certainly was at Heights.... however, there was not nearly the coke, acid, shrooms, etc. I saw in abundance my freshman year at US.  Heights kids usually only "got five on it" and that won't get you very far with any of the heavier drugs.  Socioeconomics and drugs become a bigger problem once the kids graduate IMO, because the one's that can't afford coke, turn to crack if they really want to throw their lives away.  And the one's that can afford coke, usually have parents that can afford $50,000 for rehab or nearly that much for a good defense attorney capable of either beating the charges or getting any conviction expunged. 

 

Although this belong is suburban crime.

 

Agree and the schools that you think wouldn't be big "drug dens" are.  Hathaway Brown, Shaker, US, Heights, Beachwood, Benedictine were some of the worst when I was in High School.  You could get anything at Shaker or Heights, since a lot of kid parents are/were doctors.

 

 

So I don't doubt drug use in certain circles in any of those - or any HS in general - is high.

 

The question is, how does it compare to the drug use (in terms of volume and penetration rate) at the CMSD schools?  Are you trying to tell me there is a bigger drug problem at Shaker than at Glenville?  Or at Benedictine vs. South?

 

You can answer if you want, but there's 0% chance whatever you tell me will make me think drugs aren't more rampant at CMSD schools than at a suburban school.  I mean, where do you think all the suburban kids get their drugs from?

Name  one HS where there ISN'T "a lot" of weed.  There certainly was at  Heights.... however, there was not nearly the coke, acid, shrooms, etc. I  saw in abundance my freshman year at US.  Heights kids usually only  "got five on it" and that won't get you very far with any of the heavier  drugs.  Socioeconomics and drugs become a bigger problem once the kids  graduate IMO, because the one's that can't afford coke, turn to crack if  they really want to throw their lives away.  And the one's that can  afford coke, usually have parents that can afford $50,000 for rehab or  nearly that much for a good defense attorney capable of either beating  the charges or getting any conviction expunged. 

 

Although this belong is suburban crime.

 

Agree  and the schools that you think wouldn't be big "drug dens" are.  Hathaway Brown, Shaker, US, Heights, Beachwood, Benedictine were some  of the worst when I was in High School.  You could get anything at  Shaker or Heights, since a lot of kid parents are/were doctors.

 

 

So I don't doubt drug use in certain circles in any of those - or any HS in general - is high.

 

The  question is, how does it compare to the drug use (in terms of volume  and penetration rate) at the CMSD schools?  Are you trying to tell me  there is a bigger drug problem at Shaker than at Glenville?  Or at  Benedictine vs. South?

 

You can answer if you want, but there's 0%  chance whatever you tell me will make me think drugs aren't more  rampant at CMSD schools than at a suburban school.  I mean, where do you think all the suburban kids get their drugs from?

 

Are you serious?  So all suburban kids are getting there drugs from Cleveland?

 

When I was in High School, my cousins attended Lincoln-West, Glenville and JFK.

 

You assumption shows how ignorant people can be.  If I went to a party  and brought my cousins, they would say, "why are there so many drugs  here?  or ,"....and people think kids/schools in cleveland are rampant  with drugs".  Again, people in suburbs often have blinders on and will  be quick to say, "not in my neighborhood", "our schools are safe" when  in reality the same shit that is happening in Cleveland is happening at  their suburban high school, it's just the media picsk up on negative  thing in the city and in the 'burbs they try to cover up or sweep shit  under the rug without taking legal action.

 

Now to answer your question, I honestly don't know, but I do know there  were a lot of high dollar drugs in the school and at parties when I was  in high school.

 

 

I remember my senior year at eastlake north almost everybody in my grade had begun smoking weed. Me, my girfriend, and some others where some of the only few who didnt. I was on the football team and know that even a lot of them did drugs during the season. It seemed like it really exploded my senior year though. A lot of people said they wouldnt do that stuff when they entered high school but by their senior year they did. Maybe in the CMSD schools the drug problem starts earlier. 9th grade...maybe middle school???

Rocky River high school in the 80s.

 

Booze, weed, coke all very easy to obtain.  Booze was a weekly occurance for the majority of students.

 

12 pack of busch was 3.99.

 

buy one and drive around.....this was just before MADD showed up and just as they were raising the drinking age from 19 to 21.

 

Of course everyone was 15-18 but it wasnt hard.  The Ignatius kids turned us on to a beverage store on Fulton that would sell to an 8 year old.

 

Most everybod knew somebody who had an older sibling at college.  Case, BW, Bowling Green, OSU, Miami, OU, JCU  is where the majority of the drugs and hard alcohol came from, beer and wine coolers were easy.

 

heck the kids from the burbs was the reason the observation lot at the airport was shut down..

 

All summer long was a partay!  there.  All the west and southwest burbs were represented.  Including Lorain and Medina counties.

 

Some ignatius kids once in a while, but nobody from Cleveland really.

 

You could get anything imaginable in that lot. 

 

Shs96, I would take that Shaker v. Glenville bet.  And I would throw in alchohol as well.  There MIGHT be more weed use at Glenville, but I feel confident insaying that Shaker would have it beat on all other categories.

I think we have 67 now

 

<b>At 66 and counting, homicides decline steeply in Cleveland during 2010</b>

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Cleveland could end 2010 with the fewest homicides in a decade, perhaps even a half-century.

The year-to-date total of 66 is three shy of the 50-year low, according to records compiled by the city's Public Safety Department. Homicides dropped to the second-lowest level -- 75 -- in 2000....

 

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/12/at_66_and_counting_homicides_d.html

 

Here we are at 100.

 

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/12/01/homicides-hit-100-for-fifth-time-since-03.html

 

So does this mean Columbus is going to get all the negative press that goes toward peoples' perception of crime in Cleveland? You guys have about half the homicides we did this year;get busy doing photo threads of your "dangerous" (by Cleveland standards) neighborhoods before I do.

I think we have 67 now

 

<b>At 66 and counting, homicides decline steeply in Cleveland during 2010</b>

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Cleveland could end 2010 with the fewest homicides in a decade, perhaps even a half-century.

The year-to-date total of 66 is three shy of the 50-year low, according to records compiled by the city's Public Safety Department. Homicides dropped to the second-lowest level -- 75 -- in 2000....

 

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/12/at_66_and_counting_homicides_d.html

 

Here we are at 100.

 

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/12/01/homicides-hit-100-for-fifth-time-since-03.html

 

So does this mean Columbus is going to get all the negative press that goes toward peoples' perception of crime in Cleveland? You guys have about half the homicides we did this year;get busy doing photo threads of your "dangerous" (by Cleveland standards) neighborhoods before I do.

 

Get a date first!

What are we at? 68?

What boggles my mind are people who live in a neighborhood like Tremont and think nothing of leaving doors/windows unlocked overnight, or leaving their valuables in plain sight in their car. In an ideal world, we wouldn't need to but that's not reality. I mean, I grew up in a small town of 10,000 people and we NEVER left the car, house, etc. unlocked.

 

Not to go too far off topic, but I have different rules I follow depending on where I am.  At home (the flats) I don't ever leave my car parked outside of the garage overnight, let alone unlocked or with anything sitting out.

 

Parked in my parents driveway in Aurora, my car is generally unlocked with everything sitting out in plain view.  If I go to the store in Aurora, I lock the car but don't put anything away (I leave the face plate for my satellite radio in, for example).

 

Then the farthest end of the spectrum - my car on Put-in-Bay is presently unlocked with the keys in the car. 

 

But I just want to point out the "it happens in every urban area" is a really lame argument.  Because there are places where it doesn't happen, where you can leave your keys in your vehicle even, and having that element of safety will make people sacrifice many of the benefits associated with living in an urban area.  That seems to get lost on this forum, especially when I see the "it happens in ever urban area" justification.

 

The reason it happens "in any urban area" is because there are many people (and often with a mixture of income levels).  Because there are more people, there is more exposure to possible theft.  If you left your car at the top of a desolate mountain you wouldn't have to lock it or secure your valuables.

 

It's like saying "I can live in the middle of the woods and run around my yard naked, but I can't do that in Tremont".  There's always certain precautions and different behaviors you must adhere to when you are in a more social setting.  There are advantages and disadvantages to being around more people.  The more people you surround yourself with, the more things there are to do, but there's always more risk and cause to protect yourself.  You could use the same argument that a farm in the middle of BFE is safer than the suburbs, but then again there's not nearly as many job or entertainment options in BFE.

Here we are at 100.

 

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/12/01/homicides-hit-100-for-fifth-time-since-03.html

 

So does this mean Columbus is going to get all the negative press that goes toward peoples' perception of crime in Cleveland? You guys have about half the homicides we did this year;get busy doing photo threads of your "dangerous" (by Cleveland standards) neighborhoods before I do.

 

Your per capita stats will still be better than Cleveland's because they are diluted by all the "suburbs" within the city limits.

The question is, how does it compare to the drug use (in terms of volume and penetration rate) at the CMSD schools?  Are you trying to tell me there is a bigger drug problem at Shaker than at Glenville?  Or at Benedictine vs. South?

 

You can answer if you want, but there's 0% chance whatever you tell me will make me think drugs aren't more rampant at CMSD schools than at a suburban school.  I mean, where do you think all the suburban kids get their drugs from?

 

0%?  How about facts?

 

http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/ewp_04.htm

 

or from this article: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2637706/pdf/jnma00863-0020.pdf

When comparing adolescents in urban and suburban pediatric practices, significant differences appear in the daily use of cigarettes, marijuana, and cocaine in the previous month, and in more-than-weekly use of alcohol. In all cases, suburban adolescents seen in a private pediatric practice reported greater and more frequent use than those adolescents seen in urban practices.

 

And since Aurora was brought up, I'll throw in an article about rural areas  :lol: : http://rhr.sph.sc.edu/report/scrhrc_teenviolence.pdf

Drug Use: Rural teens are at significantly greater risk of using drugs than both suburban and urban teens.

• Five of the 13 measures of drug use showed a significantly higher prevalence rate among rural teens: chewing tobacco (11.5%), chewing tobacco at school (7.6%), smoking cigarettes at school (14.8%), using crack/cocaine (5.9%), and using steroids (7.4%). Only one measure showed a significantly higher prevalence rate among urban teens (smoking marijuana at school at 6.8%). The remaining seven measures showed no differences by residence.

• Of important note is the prevalence of crystal meth use among rural teens. The proportion of rural teens who reported every using crystal meth (15.5%) was almost double the proportion of urban (8.8%) and suburban teens (9.5%). Crystal meth was the 4th most commonly used drug among rural teens after alcohol, cigarettes, and marijuana, making it more popular among rural teens than chewing tobacco.

 

I also found articles showing a positive correlation between household income and drug use for school-aged children, but I'll let you do some research on your own.

 

I mean, where do you think all the suburban kids get their drugs from?

 

Where anyone gets their drugs from isn't relevant.  That's like saying people must only drink beer outside grocery stores because that's where it retails.  Besides, the sale of drugs is steadily moving into the suburbs (I found an article or two about this as well).

I would bet you find more chrystal meth, perhaps the worst drug at present, in rural areas than you do in urban neighborhoods.

 

As far as where kids get their drugs, they may get it from some kid in "the hood".... but where did that dealer get his supply?  Most likely, some guy out in Parma... at least that's what recent arrests suggest.

I would bet you find more chrystal meth, perhaps the worst drug at present, in rural areas than you do in urban neighborhoods.

 

As far as where kids get their drugs, they may get it from some kid in "the hood".... but where did that dealer get his supply?  Most likely, some guy out in Parma... at least that's what recent arrests suggest.

 

The DEA puts out a list of known addresses where meth has been manufactured.  Not sure about where people buy or use it the most, but on the production side, Akron is king in Ohio by far.  Akron aside, rural counties do appear to produce more than urban counties.

 

http://www.justice.gov/dea/seizures/oh.pdf

Here we are at 100.

 

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/12/01/homicides-hit-100-for-fifth-time-since-03.html

 

So does this mean Columbus is going to get all the negative press that goes toward peoples' perception of crime in Cleveland? You guys have about half the homicides we did this year;get busy doing photo threads of your "dangerous" (by Cleveland standards) neighborhoods before I do.

 

Your per capita stats will still be better than Cleveland's because they are diluted by all the "suburbs" within the city limits.

 

Actually, the annexed areas account for a decent amount of them: the original core vs. urban core numbers are surprisingly rather close: as of October it was 50 in the urban core and 34 in the annexed areas around it, so if anything they're making us look worse than we are. I guessing we have more than Cleveland even if the annexed areas were out of the picture.

 

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/databases/crime/homicide.html

 

The Morse Rd area, a typical sprawling commercial street with apartment complexes, competes with the worst urban neighborhoods for most homicides.

 

I think we have 67 now

 

At 66 and counting, homicides decline steeply in Cleveland during 2010

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Cleveland could end 2010 with the fewest homicides in a decade, perhaps even a half-century.

The year-to-date total of 66 is three shy of the 50-year low, according to records compiled by the city's Public Safety Department. Homicides dropped to the second-lowest level -- 75 -- in 2000....

 

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/12/at_66_and_counting_homicides_d.html

 

Here we are at 100.

 

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/12/01/homicides-hit-100-for-fifth-time-since-03.html

 

So does this mean Columbus is going to get all the negative press that goes toward peoples' perception of crime in Cleveland? You guys have about half the homicides we did this year;get busy doing photo threads of your "dangerous" (by Cleveland standards) neighborhoods before I do.

 

Get a date first!

 

I don't think many people consider a joint photography spree in a city's worst neighborhoods a good idea for a date.

Get a date first!

 

I don't think many people consider a joint photography spree in a city's worst neighborhoods a good idea for a date.

 

Lawd! 

Another story of someone fighting back:

 

http://www.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct3=MAA4AEgGUABgAWoCdXPYAQE&usg=AFQjCNFPGe6pZtUzmGhxUue9rS-19BGLSQ&rt=SEARCH&url=http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/cleveland_metro/police%253A-teenager-shot,-killed-after-trying-to-rob-cleveland-man

I think we have 70 murders. Looks like we might finish out the year with that number

Well the final number is 77. Lake County is the only county to increase

 

<b>Homicides in seven-county region drop 28% from 2009</b>

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Homicides dropped 28 percent in the region this year, with Cleveland leading the downward trend.

Cuyahoga and surrounding counties had 200 slayings last year. That's compared to 145 this year through Thursday, according to police and coroners' offices.

 

The number of slayings dropped 37 percent in Cleveland over the past year, going from 122 to 77, according to records from Cleveland police and the Cuyahoga County coroner's office. Surrounding counties -- Summit, Geauga, Lorain, Medina and Portage -- also stayed the same or reported drops. Only Lake saw an increase.

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/12/homicides_in_seven-county_regi.html

Weird story

 

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/victim-shot-at-rta-rapid-station

 

But this crime has got to stop!

Has there been any more murders since the one on the 1st?

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/01/man_killed_in_west_side_shooti.html

 

Yup