That is awful news.  Shot right in the head by an RTA station.  That area is supposed to be on the rise too.  What are the chances any arrests are made on this or anyone is charged....

 

Most of the development in Detroit-Shoreway has been either north of Detroit or within a few blocks south of it.  It's definitely rougher as you get close to Lorain, and I would say that of all the west side rapid stations, I feel least comfortable at W. 65th (especially at night).  It's still really upsetting to hear about this, though.

it's just disappointing that this happened where it did I guess.  I agree that 65th rapid station is sketchier than others on the west side, but it's a stone's throw from the newly renovated Zone rec center & a 5 min walk from Gordon Square.  And the fact that it seems to be such a senseless killing, no struggle or robbery involved apparently

Most of the development in Detroit-Shoreway has been either north of Detroit or within a few blocks south of it.  It's definitely rougher as you get close to Lorain, and I would say that of all the west side rapid stations, I feel least comfortable at W. 65th (especially at night).  It's still really upsetting to hear about this, though.

 

Yep. It doesn't add up, yet most murders aren't random.

It sounds like this was the work of the “Ohio Investigative Unit”, a semi-obscure Department of Public Safety unit that focuses solely on issues involving alcohol or cigarettes.  It was founded at approximately the minute Prohibition was repealed, which suggests it’s the legacy of downstate inspired efforts to enforce same in the face of the lakeshore area’s antipathy for the law and access to Canadian alcohol.

 

Like most police units with narrow areas of jurisdiction, OIU zealously pushes the edges of the law in order to expand its power and profile.  It should be disbanded, with those law enforcement issues truly requiring state government involvement being absorbed by the OHP.

 

Hell, it sounds like the cops might have known about the raid in advance and were trying to look out for the gallery.  So of course they are being crapt on by the ignorant.

 

Check them out on Facebook.  Maybe you'll become a fan ;)

 

I don't see any mention of this particular raid (yet).

 

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ohio-Investigative-Unit/165782203506269

It sounds like this was the work of the “Ohio Investigative Unit”, a semi-obscure Department of Public Safety unit that focuses solely on issues involving alcohol or cigarettes.  It was founded at approximately the minute Prohibition was repealed, which suggests it’s the legacy of downstate inspired efforts to enforce same in the face of the lakeshore area’s antipathy for the law and access to Canadian alcohol.

 

Like most police units with narrow areas of jurisdiction, OIU zealously pushes the edges of the law in order to expand its power and profile.  It should be disbanded, with those law enforcement issues truly requiring state government involvement being absorbed by the OHP.

 

Hell, it sounds like the cops might have known about the raid in advance and were trying to look out for the gallery.  So of course they are being crapt on by the ignorant.

 

Check them out on Facebook.  Maybe you'll become a fan ;)

 

I don't see any mention of this particular raid (yet).

 

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ohio-Investigative-Unit/165782203506269

 

Not under my real name.  :)

 

They probably noted the brewing backlash, hence no credit taking.

^^I think there is a gray area when you are "giving away" beer at a business establishment.  It sounds like the police stopped by, probably in response to a complaint, and told him not to accept tips for the beer.  Then the state unit showed up an hour later.  Despite the insinuations otherwise, let's not pretend this state unit would be out there solving murders and stopping robberies if they were not engaged in this raid.  That's the type of knee-jerk commentary reaction which really distracts from the issues.  Apparently, like I suspected, some neighbors called the police.  It seems like this type of event is becoming more and more common in OC and Tremont and not everybody (for whatever grumpy-pants reason) is very fond of the scene.

 

Is this state alcohol unit a good expenditure of our limited resources? I say no. Save the money for serious safety issues ie robbery's etc.

 

Maybe there's a silver lining in that if gallery owners are hassled enough they will move to my hood in Lakewood. This Naji guy (or girl?) is the type of bad element I want more of closer to my house.

Maybe there's a silver lining in that if gallery owners are hassled enough they will move to my hood in Lakewood. This Naji guy (or girl?) is the type of bad element I want more of closer to my house.

 

Regrettably, Lakewood is still in Ohio, so they wouldn't escape the jurisdiction of the OIU...

It sounds like this was the work of the “Ohio Investigative Unit”, a semi-obscure Department of Public Safety unit that focuses solely on issues involving alcohol or cigarettes.  It was founded at approximately the minute Prohibition was repealed, which suggests it’s the legacy of downstate inspired efforts to enforce same in the face of the lakeshore area’s antipathy for the law and access to Canadian alcohol.

 

Like most police units with narrow areas of jurisdiction, OIU zealously pushes the edges of the law in order to expand its power and profile.  It should be disbanded, with those law enforcement issues truly requiring state government involvement being absorbed by the OHP.

 

Hell, it sounds like the cops might have known about the raid in advance and were trying to look out for the gallery.  So of course they are being crapt on by the ignorant.

 

Check them out on Facebook.  Maybe you'll become a fan ;)

 

I don't see any mention of this particular raid (yet).

 

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ohio-Investigative-Unit/165782203506269

 

Not under my real name.  :)

 

They probably noted the brewing backlash, hence no credit taking.

 

From their FB page - which features a dangerous looking perp in handcuffs lol.

 

WTOL in Toledo editorial - Harsh punishments are necessary to stop illegal alcohol sales

 

I agree. Burn these illegal alcohol sellers alive! Chop off a hand ha ha. Make the punishment worse than any other offense :-)

Is this state alcohol unit a good expenditure of our limited resources? I say no. Save the money for serious safety issues ie robbery's etc.

 

That's not what I was saying.  I was simply responding to the poppycock notion that these 'cops' could be out there dealing with such 'serious safety issues' if they weren't issuing this citation.  This is what this unit does.  Raiding businesses without a liquor license is just one function...... one in which I'm sure many on here would be cheering if it happened at a different kind of venue.  It also deals with a lot of other serious concerns, such as underage sales to minors, illegal gambling, etc. and does so out of the state budget which 'saves the (local) money (and resources) for serious safety issues ie robber[ies] etc." 

^^I think there is a gray area when you are "giving away" beer at a business establishment.  It sounds like the police stopped by, probably in response to a complaint, and told him not to accept tips for the beer.  Then the state unit showed up an hour later.  Despite the insinuations otherwise, let's not pretend this state unit would be out there solving murders and stopping robberies if they were not engaged in this raid.  That's the type of knee-jerk commentary reaction which really distracts from the issues.  Apparently, like I suspected, some neighbors called the police.  It seems like this type of event is becoming more and more common in OC and Tremont and not everybody (for whatever grumpy-pants reason) is very fond of the scene.

 

Is this state alcohol unit a good expenditure of our limited resources? I say no. Save the money for serious safety issues ie robbery's etc.

 

Maybe there's a silver lining in that if gallery owners are hassled enough they will move to my hood in Lakewood. This Naji guy (or girl?) is the type of bad element I want more of closer to my house.

 

As I've said, it sounds like the CPD actually checked up on them to make sure the OIU wouldn't find anything, and incorrectly thought they were OK.  Most "general enforcement" LEOs don't have a high opinion of the specialists.  Get local cops, or for that matter FBI agents, on the subject of ATF/DEA sometime. 

 

OIU should be folded into the general state law enforcement infrastructure which then allocates its resources according to a broader set of priorities.  When agencies specialize, they pursue this sort of chickens***.

When I was at Sun, I used to get news tips from Senyak all the time about bars and other establishments with liquor violations. Henry usually had good information but I followed up only on the chronic offenders or the really egregious offenders (like where violence had occurred at an illegal bar). This art gallery's alleged violation wouldn't have gotten an article from me -- until it got raided. The raid would have gotten an article from me....

 

Community activist Henry Senyak admits role in weekend raid of Loren Naji art gallery @michaelheaton5 @stevenlitt

http://t.co/BbNCdp7xxi

You know, I want to villify the guy for his actions, but then there's this: http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/out-of-darkness/Content?oid=2013468

 

 

"To get to this point, he's been driving the streets ten hours a week and logging another ten at his computer and phone. He maintains color-coded charts to remind him which lights he's called about, whether CPP has responded, and whether their repairs have been successful. If not, he calls again. In six months, he's phoned in exactly 1,433 malfunctioning lights to Cleveland Public Power's automated streetlight complaint system... Senyak pockets not a penny in his quest to ensure we get our money's worth. "

 

A rare case of a so-called community activist ACTUALLY being a real community activist unlike the usual self-proclaimed community activist lunatics/criminals.

We do the same thing in our block club.  CPP customer service 8 response time is so bad you have to document everything to get any action. 

I understand diligence with regard to a safety issue about repairs or street lights that are out, but this guy just sounds like he REALLY needs a hobby or something. An art gallery giving away a small glass of wine to patrons is a normal, everyday thing and not some terrible crime that needs legal intervention. Does he call the police when kids are selling lemonade at the curb without a permit, too?

Is this state alcohol unit a good expenditure of our limited resources? I say no. Save the money for serious safety issues ie robbery's etc.

 

That's not what I was saying.  I was simply responding to the poppycock notion that these 'cops' could be out there dealing with such 'serious safety issues' if they weren't issuing this citation.  This is what this unit does.  Raiding businesses without a liquor license is just one function...... one in which I'm sure many on here would be cheering if it happened at a different kind of venue.  It also deals with a lot of other serious concerns, such as underage sales to minors, illegal gambling, etc. and does so out of the state budget which 'saves the (local) money (and resources) for serious safety issues ie robber[ies] etc." 

 

I know, and get your point this is not the gang unit.

 

Yes underage sales to minors, etc. obviously bad. Yet the mere fact they showed up at this gallery shows a waste of limited resources. It's a waste of their own time. Id like to know if it was in fact neighboring bar owners who initiated this mess.

 

edit - just saw above posts re: how this started.

 

When I was at Sun, I used to get news tips from Senyak all the time about bars and other establishments with liquor violations. Henry usually had good information but I followed up only on the chronic offenders or the really egregious offenders (like where violence had occurred at an illegal bar). This art gallery's alleged violation wouldn't have gotten an article from me -- until it got raided. The raid would have gotten an article from me....

 

Community activist Henry Senyak admits role in weekend raid of Loren Naji art gallery @michaelheaton5 @stevenlitt

http://t.co/BbNCdp7xxi

 

An hour later the state officers entered the building and served Naji with a cease and desist order, warned those there to empty their bottles and glasses in the sink and not to take pictures with their cell phones as they put all the unopened beer and wine into large containers, Naji said.

 

Okay, maybe I belong in jail. Because that is the precise moment I would've started taking pictures of everybody and everything.

 

I hope this law-worshiping community activist gets effing pulled over every instance where he drives over the speed limit.

^ that's just what I was wondering...how would this guy survive against the strict scrutiny he submits the rest of the neighborhood to.

What a D-Bag. 

 

I wonder if his house is up to code?  Property search looks like he is on Scranton.  He better not so much as have a gutter nail out of position!

 

An hour later the state officers entered the building and served Naji with a cease and desist order, warned those there to empty their bottles and glasses in the sink and not to take pictures with their cell phones as they put all the unopened beer and wine into large containers, Naji said.

 

Okay, maybe I belong in jail. Because that is the precise moment I would've started taking pictures of everybody and everything.

 

Oh absolutely.  Hope you don't mind agreeing with me.  :evil:

 

I would have been cheating though because if they tried to arrest me, as soon as I got out I'd be on the phone with the Rutherford Institute, which makes the ACLU look like rookie public defenders and has a really poor attitude towards government trying to operate in secret. Then I'd figure out what I was going to spend my settlement on.

 

As far as I know their is no law against photographing police activity in public.  The day there is is a chilling one as far as freedom is concerned.

You know, I want to villify the guy for his actions, but then there's this: http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/out-of-darkness/Content?oid=2013468

 

 

"To get to this point, he's been driving the streets ten hours a week and logging another ten at his computer and phone. He maintains color-coded charts to remind him which lights he's called about, whether CPP has responded, and whether their repairs have been successful. If not, he calls again. In six months, he's phoned in exactly 1,433 malfunctioning lights to Cleveland Public Power's automated streetlight complaint system... Senyak pockets not a penny in his quest to ensure we get our money's worth. "

 

A rare case of a so-called community activist ACTUALLY being a real community activist unlike the usual self-proclaimed community activist lunatics/criminals.

 

An old phrase comes to mind:  picking up litter doesn't authorize you to crap in the street.

 

An hour later the state officers entered the building and served Naji with a cease and desist order, warned those there to empty their bottles and glasses in the sink and not to take pictures with their cell phones as they put all the unopened beer and wine into large containers, Naji said.

 

Okay, maybe I belong in jail. Because that is the precise moment I would've started taking pictures of everybody and everything.

 

Oh absolutely.  Hope you don't mind agreeing with me.  :evil:

 

I would have been cheating though because if they tried to arrest me, as soon as I got out I'd be on the phone with the Rutherford Institute, which makes the ACLU look like rookie public defenders and has a really poor attitude towards government trying to operate in secret. Then I'd figure out what I was going to spend my settlement on.

 

As far as I know their is no law against photographing police activity in public.  The day there is is a chilling one as far as freedom is concerned.

 

You are allowed to photograph and/or film anything within public view.  The guests certainly could've stood out on the sidewalk and photographed/filmed what was going on inside.  These types of stories all too often get distorted.  My guess, and that is all this is, is that the police had asked people to either clear the gallery or clear a particular area of the gallery so that they could conduct their investigation.  Certain guests refused, wanting to get the whole incident on film.  The issue probably was not the filming, but their refusal to clear the area..... even if it was not interpreted that way.  If your photography or filming is interfering with an investigation, the cops can absolutely order you to stop.

^Why the "within public view" qualifier?  Unless Ohio is a two party consent state (which I don't think is the case), I think it would be perfectly legal to record anything while still in the gallery, as long as the filmer's physical presence didn't interfere with law enforcement.  I don't think the guests were ordered to leave the place.

Unless the owner of the gallery asked you to stop, I'd say it's legal to take pics inside the gallery.

http://www.krages.com/ThePhotographersRight.pdf

^^That was more of a general statement.  You can film anything within public view, including anything on or inside private property so long as it is visible from a public space or someone else's property.  If it is not within public view, then you need the property owner's consent.  The qualifier "as long as the filmer's physical presence didn't interfere with law enforcement" is more specific to this situation and that is the authority I assume the OIU was relying on.  I wasn't there, so I don't know what orders were given.  But I do know that more people than not simply assume that they can stand right over a cop and film his every move.  Now imagine 20 people doing that all at the same time while the cop is trying to conduct his investigation or make an arrest.  It is inevitable that you have at least one guest at an event like this who, already convinced that what the cops were doing was wrong, got a little overzealous.  Cops are allowed to give whatever orders are necessary for them to maintain a safe distance, no matter whether they are raiding a crack house, a strip club, a gambling ring, or an art gallery opening.

 

If the cops ordered the guests to stop taking pictures simply because they didn't want their picture taken, that is not constitutional.  But if they ordered them to stop taking pictures because of a couple of overzealous guests were being obstinately defiant, which is very believable in this situation, that is better than arresting the individuals.

 

I suppose there also is the possibly that the unit conducting the raid contained some undercover operatives, which could give rise to an interesting discussion of whether they could outright prohibit any photography.

^^Right, I was assuming the gallery owner was consenting. I don't think public view ever matters vis a vis filming the police except in the limited exceptions to the extremely archaic and stupid two-party consent rules a minority of states still have on the books.

What a D-Bag. 

 

I wonder if his house is up to code?  Property search looks like he is on Scranton.  He better not so much as have a gutter nail out of position!

 

I hear what you're saying, and I don't understand why Senyak went after this art gallery. But he was pretty good at targeting problem bars that were the sources of frequent and large fights, murders, and intimidating neighbors who complained. Yet the bars kept their liquor licenses or avoided police attention because the bar owners' contributed to the re-election campaigns of their councilpersons. Senyak served a legit function in targeting some pretty hideous corruption 5-10 years ago when I wrote about the near west side. Toward the end of my coverage of Ohio City, Tremont, etc. he seemed to be more concerned about gentrification driving up property values making it difficult for longtime, lower-income residents like him to stay in their neighborhoods.

What a D-Bag. 

 

I wonder if his house is up to code?  Property search looks like he is on Scranton.  He better not so much as have a gutter nail out of position!

 

I hear what you're saying, and I don't understand why Senyak went after this art gallery. But he was pretty good at targeting problem bars that were the sources of frequent and large fights, murders, and intimidating neighbors who complained. Yet the bars kept their liquor licenses or avoided police attention because the bar owners' contributed to the re-election campaigns of their councilpersons. Senyak served a legit function in targeting some pretty hideous corruption 5-10 years ago when I wrote about the near west side. Toward the end of my coverage of Ohio City, Tremont, etc. he seemed to be more concerned about gentrification driving up property values making it difficult for longtime, lower-income residents like him to stay in their neighborhoods.

 

Could he be soliciting "contributions" himself?  Or have a personal gripe with the owner?

What a D-Bag. 

 

I wonder if his house is up to code?  Property search looks like he is on Scranton.  He better not so much as have a gutter nail out of position!

 

I hear what you're saying, and I don't understand why Senyak went after this art gallery. But he was pretty good at targeting problem bars that were the sources of frequent and large fights, murders, and intimidating neighbors who complained. Yet the bars kept their liquor licenses or avoided police attention because the bar owners' contributed to the re-election campaigns of their councilpersons. Senyak served a legit function in targeting some pretty hideous corruption 5-10 years ago when I wrote about the near west side. Toward the end of my coverage of Ohio City, Tremont, etc. he seemed to be more concerned about gentrification driving up property values making it difficult for longtime, lower-income residents like him to stay in their neighborhoods.

 

That would explain his antipathy towards an "uppity" art gallery in the area.     

 

Always a touchy subject.  While we all want Cleveland neighborhoods to improve (and hopefully someday its schools), there are some who view this as the opposite of progress. 

I think you all are making a mistake by assuming this is all attributable to one guy

 

It took more than a single complaint from one person to trigger a raid Friday on the Loren Naji gallery in Ohio City, where state agents confiscated beer and wine.

 

The Cleveland office of the Ohio Dept. of Public Safety received multiple complaints over several months about loud noise at the gallery, said Greg Croft, agent in charge of the investigative unit, in an interview Monday.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/arts/index.ssf/2014/05/state_agents_responded_to_mult.html

 

 

^Why the "within public view" qualifier?  Unless Ohio is a two party consent state (which I don't think is the case), I think it would be perfectly legal to record anything while still in the gallery, as long as the filmer's physical presence didn't interfere with law enforcement.  I don't think the guests were ordered to leave the place.

 

As I assumed.....

 

Croft said that state agents did not intend to create a scene at Naji’s gallery, but that officers had to ask the crowd of roughly 100 to 150 patrons to leave the gallery when, in his words, some of them started “chanting obscenities” at the agents.

 

Yes, even the artsy-fartsy types can a little bit of the F%&K THE POLICE attitude.

^Yeah, that makes sense.  It was also reported that the party continued after the booze was removed, but I guess people just re-entered the gallery after the liquor cops left.

Could he be soliciting "contributions" himself?  Or have a personal gripe with the owner?

 

He might have a personal gripe, but knowing Senyak he wouldn't accept money. Not only does it go against his values, he just never seemed to value money. Quite the contrary. I think he considers it borderline evil.

I don't know him personally, just from interactions as a Tremont resident but my impression is - he doesn't discriminate when it comes to being a 'fly in the ointment'. I think this recent incident with the art gallery might be a bit of overkill, but he's also helped residents get rid of places that were genuine cesspits.

good lord this thread has gotten off track with this discussion about this random Tremont dude and his agenda... 

good lord this thread has gotten off track with this discussion about this random Tremont dude and his agenda... 

 

Has it? Don't citizens, including those we may not agree with (sometimes or always), have an impact on crime and safety issues in Cleveland?

I think the discussion is better suited to one of the neighborhood threads

I think the discussion is better suited to one of the neighborhood threads

 

I agree.

 

This wasn't really a "crime" per se and certainly didn't warrant the level of enforcement by some state agency eager to play "SWAT".  I hope someone calls the city on Mr Senyak for a loose gutter or peeling paint.    Maybe we can call the national guard in on him.

I think the discussion is better suited to one of the neighborhood threads

 

I agree.

 

This wasn't really a "crime" per se and certainly didn't warrant the level of enforcement by some state agency eager to play "SWAT".  I hope someone calls the city on Mr Senyak for a loose gutter or peeling paint.    Maybe we can call the national guard in on him.

 

I agree as well.

 

A person with no criminal record shot in the head at an RTA station on W. 65th generates one or two comments.  An art gallery caught for illegally giving away free alcohol generates multiple pages of discussion.

 

Doesn't seem like "Crime and Safety" is really the focus of this thread.

I think the discussion is better suited to one of the neighborhood threads

 

I agree.

 

This wasn't really a "crime" per se and certainly didn't warrant the level of enforcement by some state agency eager to play "SWAT".  I hope someone calls the city on Mr Senyak for a loose gutter or peeling paint.    Maybe we can call the national guard in on him.

 

I agree as well.

 

A person with no criminal record shot in the head at an RTA station on W. 65th generates one or two comments.  An art gallery caught for illegally giving away free alcohol generates multiple pages of discussion.

 

Doesn't seem like "Crime and Safety" is really the focus of this thread.

 

I would argue this art gallery incident is exactly on point for this thread.

 

A man gets shot at RTA. There's no law enforcement there to prevent it. Why is that? However, there somehow enough resources available to send police and state agents to arrive en masse to an art gallery. For a noise violation?

 

This is a question of priorities; of making the most out of limited resources. Where do we want our tax dollars going?

 

 

I also think it's relevant because, at least at first glance (and hopefully, sorry), the RTA station shooting was a crime-related shooting targeting a specific individual - which sucks, but that's a larger problem of (probably) gang and/or gun and/or drug violence, which is an ongoing abstract struggle in and around this area, and about which we can't do much.

 

But someone tattling on a gallery for bringing in an assumedly orderly, slightly upscale, civilized art gallery patronage simply because he doesn't want there to be so many people in Tremont so he finds any and every excuse to rat people out in attempts to get people to stop coming there is, well, ridiculous. This guy isn't some stand-up guy doing his civic duty reporting dangerous neighborhood crime, he's a whiny tattler who likely needs to find something else to do with his time than look out the window at how everyone and everything is infringing upon his enjoyment of life.

 

A man gets shot at RTA. There's no law enforcement there to prevent it. Why is that? However, there somehow enough resources available to send police and state agents to arrive en masse to an art gallery. For a noise violation?

 

This is a question of priorities; of making the most out of limited resources. Where do we want our tax dollars going?

 

 

I don't know but if you watch any episodes of "Homeland", there seems to be a camera on every corner, bus stop & back alley where police can monitor & track people.  Of course it's a tv show, but I think that's probably where we are heading, especially in high crime areas

 

A man gets shot at RTA. There's no law enforcement there to prevent it. Why is that? However, there somehow enough resources available to send police and state agents to arrive en masse to an art gallery. For a noise violation?

 

This is a question of priorities; of making the most out of limited resources. Where do we want our tax dollars going?

 

 

I don't know but if you watch any episodes of "Homeland", there seems to be a camera on every corner, bus stop & back alley where police can monitor & track people.  Of course it's a tv show, but I think that's probably where we are heading, especially in high crime areas

 

Fine by me.  CH has added them to some commercial districts and I think they should add them to more.  I know some people think it's big brother intruding, but if you ask me, if you're not breaking the law, you shouldn't care.

^it's tempting to think that but it's a bit more nuanced than that. Basically every surveillance tool also provides an opportunity for abuse, and occasionally egregious examples come to light. That's not to say we shouldn't use these tools, but they shouldn't be considered harmless.

A man gets shot at RTA. There's no law enforcement there to prevent it. Why is that? However, there somehow enough resources available to send police and state agents to arrive en masse to an art gallery. For a noise violation?

 

This is a question of priorities; of making the most out of limited resources. Where do we want our tax dollars going?

 

The gallery raid was in reaction to a tip/complaint, which is typically how most law enforcement spend their time on the streets. Aside from the coincidence of a police officer being in the right place at the right time, I don't see how the RTA shooting could have prevented. Even when RTA police are inside the station headhouse above the tracks or down on the platform at track level, they may not have prevented this shooting. I've researched the victim's background a little bit and saw nothing to indicate he was involved in illegal activities. He could have been the victim of a robbery or targeted for some other reason that may have been pre-mediated. Either way, a cop would have had to have been within eyesight of (or seen in a security camera's limited coverage range) the victim AND suspect and detected something was wrong or about to go wrong before the shooting had actually occurred. That's a lot of assumptions there. Cops are trained to notice things that fit or don't fit patterns, but ultimately they are just people. And yes, there are security cameras everywhere. But most aren't monitored in real time. Instead they exist to record activity and can be checked as part of investigating a crime that has already occurred.

The best way to keep those things happening at an RTA station is to get more people riding.  That would have never happened if they were on a crowded platform, with hundreds of people coming and going.  Some of those stations are ghost towns after 6 pm.

^ Agree. And I don't see more people using until there's massive coordinated investment.

 

I wish the RTA stations had a concentrated retail component and/or simply designed better...well, we've all discussed this with all the insightful TOD commentary.

I don't even know what to say to this.

Someone broke into President Garfield’s tomb and stole his commemorative spoons

I don't even know what to say to this.

Someone broke into President Garfield’s tomb and stole his commemorative spoons

 

That article really has some biased digs at Cleveland. The article states that the tomb is in the suburbs, but isn't it in fact in the city limits of Cleveland? I know that Lakeview Cemetery has Cleveland, East Cleveland, and Cleveland Heights portions, but I believe Garfield is in the Cleveland section.

^Yeah, I wasn't entirely sure why there was a link to the Hastily Made Cleveland Tourist Video... Even for a crime as bizarre as this one, the article just had a weird tone.

I don't even know what to say to this.

Someone broke into President Garfield’s tomb and stole his commemorative spoons

 

That article really has some biased digs at Cleveland. The article states that the tomb is in the suburbs, but isn't it in fact in the city limits of Cleveland? I know that Lakeview Cemetery has Cleveland, East Cleveland, and Cleveland Heights portions, but I believe Garfield is in the Cleveland section.

 

I missed the digs.  IIRC, the whole cemetary is in Cleveland, but on the borders.

 

The fact is we once actually had someone steal "in use" urinal cakes from the bar, so anything can be stolen.

 

Fireball is very popular among the younger inner city set these days. 

 

I'm wanting to call this a gang initiation.

I don't even know what to say to this.

Someone broke into President Garfields tomb and stole his commemorative spoons

 

That article really has some biased digs at Cleveland. The article states that the tomb is in the suburbs, but isn't it in fact in the city limits of Cleveland? I know that Lakeview Cemetery has Cleveland, East Cleveland, and Cleveland Heights portions, but I believe Garfield is in the Cleveland section.

 

I missed the digs.  IIRC, the whole cemetary is in Cleveland, but on the borders.

 

The fact is we once actually had someone steal "in use" urinal cakes from the bar, so anything can be stolen.

 

Fireball is very popular among the younger inner city set these days. 

 

I'm wanting to call this a gang initiation.

 

Fireball is popular with ALL youth, not just inner city.