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I follow the Ohio City Crimewatch Facebook page, and they've been pushing for cameras after a very bad spring and summer.  Even some of the long time residents are saying this year has been one of, if not the worst they can remember.  General consensus seems to be that it is a particular group of teens on a spree, though, and not a general trend.

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    I wouldn't go as far as blaming the mayor. He's been around for four months and there's no way he's had time for the intricacies of the many departments he needs to fix. He certainly has atleast spent

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^I'm shocked an office building that's been converted into condos or apartments within the last 20-25 years has no sprinkler system.  This is supposed to be a quality building and I know it's not cheap.  We'll see if smoke detectors were installed and active.  There will likely be some serious questions raised regarding this incident.  I'm glad nobody was hurt.

Fire started in a penthouse. Unless the floor caved, probably mostly water damage. Good job by the CFD getting it under control so quickly

Is one aspect of the old Flats coming back? It's not the positive part of a hopping nightscene, crowds and vibrancy, but of alcohol/drug-related crimes and accidents.

 

Some of the incidents are reminders of the past, like the nuisance/silliness of the Flats just being the Flats that I remember so well from 10-30 years ago. Stuff like the driver of this SUV making a wrong turn down the Waterfront Line tracks at the Flats East Bank station:

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To the tragic....

 

Flats drowning sparks memories of past safety issues

By Adam Ferrise, Northeast Ohio Media Group

on August 09, 2015 at 7:33 AM, updated August 09, 2015 at 7:52 AM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio — The apparent drowning of a woman in the Flats early Saturday brought back memories of safety issues that plagued the entertainment district for decades before legislation required enhanced safety measures.

 

Drowning deaths have dropped in recent years because of a decrease in business and safety measures put in place after three people drowned in five-week span in 2000.

 

City Councilman Joe Cimperman said on Saturday that the city will investigate if the owners of the Jacobs Pavilion at Nautica and surrounding areas are in compliance with city law that requires them to provide ladders and life preservers along the shoreline.

 

MORE:

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/08/flats_drowning_sparks_memories.html

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Stan Bullard ‏@CrainRltywriter  4m4 minutes ago

55 displace by fier at Pointe of Gateway condos.Penthouse souce of fire above City Tap in Cleveland via @fox8news http://bit.ly/1KZ2OHp  CRE

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

his isn't good news.

 

Edited to add: I understand that the two knew each other before. It isn't whether or not this is "random crime" or not that's concerning about this to me. It's the fact that it's happening at all.

 

 

Cleveland man jumped at FWD nightclub in the Flats

By Brandon Blackwell, Northeast Ohio Media Group

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Two men jumped a Cleveland man as he walked away from a verbal confrontation at a nightclub in the Flats East Bank.

 

The attack happened early Sunday at FWD Day + Nightclub in the 1100 block of Front Avenue.

 

The victim told police that he ran into a man he had an altercation with months earlier.

 

The two talked about the previous altercation and the conversation escalated, according to a police report. A third man joined the argument.

 

The victim turned to walk away and said, "You guys are nothing but punks," according to the report.

 

One of the men punched the victim and knocked him to the ground. The second man kicked the victim in the abdomen, jumped on his back and began choking him, the report said.

 

Read more at: http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/08/cleveland_man_jumped_at_fwd_ni.html

 

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his isn't good news.

 

Edited to add: I understand that the two knew each other before. It isn't whether or not this is "random crime" or not that's concerning about this to me. It's the fact that it's happening at all.

 

 

Cleveland man jumped at FWD nightclub in the Flats

By Brandon Blackwell, Northeast Ohio Media Group

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Two men jumped a Cleveland man as he walked away from a verbal confrontation at a nightclub in the Flats East Bank.

 

The attack happened early Sunday at FWD Day + Nightclub in the 1100 block of Front Avenue.

 

The victim told police that he ran into a man he had an altercation with months earlier.

 

The two talked about the previous altercation and the conversation escalated, according to a police report. A third man joined the argument.

 

The victim turned to walk away and said, "You guys are nothing but punks," according to the report.

 

One of the men punched the victim and knocked him to the ground. The second man kicked the victim in the abdomen, jumped on his back and began choking him, the report said.

 

Read more at: http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/08/cleveland_man_jumped_at_fwd_ni.html

 

Read more: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,1823.5740.html#ixzz3iRMgMdUk

 

I don't get this.  After midnight on the weekend, there was a fight at a bar.  It was broken up quickly, everyone was kicked out, and there was one very minor injury.

 

Why is this even in the news?  You might as well do a write-up on every rush hour fender bender.

 

I go to lots of bars. There aren't any fights at any of them. This is a brand new downtown facility that's attracting a lot of attention. Of course a fight there is going to get some attention, especially because the area was noted for this type of behavior before, and many people attribute episodes like this and people getting drunk and drowning in the river to be "why" the Flats died. Whether it is or isn't the reason isn't the issue. This looks bad and is newsworthy IMO. It's no mystery to me why this would be reported. It's not a fender bender. It's a punching out in an area formerly known as "punch palace."

 

I think there should be very prevalent and high levels of security and/or law enforcement at all of these places, especially when they are new.

^I agree with rockandroller.  I too visit a number of clubs from time to time which cater to the young and hip, and in several cities, but rarely if ever to I see fights.  That this happened so soon at FWD is a bit troubling, even given the fact that the parties involved knew each other and had some kind of ongoing dispute.  It may be an unfair burden for FWD, but this City has a bad history of drunkenness and bad behavior -- and even deaths -- in the Flats, esp along the East Bank, and to have something like this so soon in the FEB, before it is even half open for God's sake, is bound to make people uneasy-- and as we can see, media like the PD are more than ready to pounce on stuff like this.  As the old saying goes: first impressions are lasting ones, so FWD had best invest in serious security to stem any similar future festivities.  We certainly don't need a Moda-by-the-River.

Notable police presence last night dinner time in FEB by Alley Cat and FWD..

Just to be clear the incident at FWD with the three men fighting was completely separate from the alcohol/drug induced drowning at Settlers Landing. Some people here had tied the drowning to FWD.  I just don't see how these are anyone's fault but the people involved making stupid decisions.

Just to be clear the incident at FWD with the three men fighting was completely separate from the alcohol/drug induced drowning at Settlers Landing. Some people here had tied the drowning to FWD.  I just don't see how these are anyone's fault but the people involved making stupid decisions.

 

Yes absolutely, this distinction must be made clear.  But to me, the fight at FWD in itself is bad news... if it happened say, after a year or 2 after FWD opened for business it probably wouldn't make the news.  But given that the place literally just opened, it was bound to raise eyebrows.

I've seen quite a few bar fights in my day. I guess eRocc and I go to different bars than the rest of you.....

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Cleveland officials raid, board up West Side home notorious for heroin activity (video)

By Brandon Blackwell, Northeast Ohio Media Group

on August 10, 2015 at 5:07 PM, updated August 10, 2015 at 5:26 PM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Cleveland police on Monday afternoon stormed a West Side home notorious for heroin activity and helped put an end to a longtime blight on the Edgewater Hill neighborhood.

 

Officers arrested three men and removed drugs and a collection of paraphernalia from 1362 West 76th Street before a contractor boarded up the home.

 

Among those arrested was the homeowner. Police have not released any names.

 

MORE:

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/08/officials_raid_board_up_home_n.html

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I've seen quite a few bar fights in my day. I guess eRocc and I go to different bars than the rest of you.....

 

Almost entirely "bar" in the singular, in my case these days, but I've been the one dealing with (or better yet, preventing) the incidents for more years than I care to think about.

 

If anything, they are more common in a new place where staff hasn't had a chance to get a feel for the clientele and identify (let alone ban) problem children.  The latter, of course, have been barred from other places, so guess where they go?  Sometimes it's to test the place out.

 

It sounds like a small event quickly broken up and indeed it's a good sign that the other patrons helped end it rather than joining in or egging it on.  The fact that it made the news says more about NEOMG than the bar.  Maybe FWD hasn't bought enough advertising or didn't know to comp the reporter.  Or there's some other grudge going on.

Cleveland officials raid, board up West Side home notorious for heroin activity (video)

By Brandon Blackwell, Northeast Ohio Media Group

on August 10, 2015 at 5:07 PM, updated August 10, 2015 at 5:26 PM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Cleveland police on Monday afternoon stormed a West Side home notorious for heroin activity and helped put an end to a longtime blight on the Edgewater Hill neighborhood.

 

Officers arrested three men and removed drugs and a collection of paraphernalia from 1362 West 76th Street before a contractor boarded up the home.

 

Among those arrested was the homeowner. Police have not released any names.

 

MORE:

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/08/officials_raid_board_up_home_n.html

 

That house has been a den of sleeze forever.  The father & son were arrested about 6 yrs ago for beating a neighbor kid with a bat.  The house needs torn down.  Full of rats, bedbugs, etc.

Things must have changed since my club going days. I go to bars on occasion but haven't been to a club in probably well over a decade. Glad to hear they are more peaceful

Things must have changed since my club going days. I go to bars on occasion but haven't been to a club in probably well over a decade. Glad to hear they are more peaceful

 

Depends on the place, but in general they are.  Some of it is the decline of the business in general, some of it because management has learned that good security means keeping the peace, not kicking the butts of the miscreants.  A new place is more likely to have problems than an established one and that is what happened here.

 

It's still bad in the UK where this knowledge is less widespread, even though (or perhaps because) security people are federally licensed.

Another disturbing news story in the area of my daily commute. Dang. Middle of the day, too. I'm really starting to worry about being collateral damage if something like this is going on. Ugh.

 

I-71 highway shooting: Car shot 9 times after leaving ATM

Alyssa Pasicznyk

 

CLEVELAND - Wednesday afternoon, police and EMS responded to a crash and reported shooting on Interstate 71 at Denison Avenue.

 

Police told newsnet5.com the car was headed north on I-71 after leaving an ATM machine when it was shot at least nine times under the W. 130th Street bridge.

 

The car was under the bridge when another vehicle pulled up and began firing. 

 

read more: http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/police-ems-responding-to-car-crash-shooting-on-i-71-at-denison-avenue

^was it parked under the bridge or while it was moving?  The article and title suggest it was related to having been to an ATM, but that may not be relevant as I-71 is not an easy place to rob someone, assuming that was the motive if the ATM is cited.  So either the ATM is irrelevant and it was road rage or some other things (such as the shooter knowing the driver); or if the car was parked under the bridge, maybe something else was going on.

Likely part of the heroin epidemic. It sucks, but it's nowhere near as bad as the urban crack-related crime wave of the 1980s. This time the heroin epidemic is affecting suburbia too, so more are paying attention now.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Honest question: How many more violent crimes like that before we see housing demand (and construction) iced in Tremont?  The latest rash of carjackings in Tremont (that we know of) haven't happened in the fringe areas on the outskirts of the neighborhood.  The've happened in the northern blocks of W. 7th - you can't get much more established upscale Tremont than that.

 

Also, the Tremont "triangle," between the highways, is a pretty confined area with limited ingress and egress routes.  Cameras at the streets leading in and out of the neighborhood would probably go far in finding out where people are coming from and leaving towards.

 

Any Tremont residents here?  Maybe a camera crowdfunding effort, like the folks in Ohio City are doing, would help.

I'm not a car owner or even a car enthusiast, so forgive me if this is a dumb question, but in the age of On-Star, GPS, and other ubiquitous and ever-cheaper wireless technology, how is car theft even viable? Aren't there (or shouldn't there be) extremely affordable real time car tracking services out there? Shouldn't insurance companies be happy to pay for them?

 

I once asked a Zip Car exec if they suffer from theft problems (the keys are literally left in the locked cars), and she told me when they move into a market, there is often one or two threfts, but then the criminal community learns fast that all the cars are being tracked in real time so move on to different targets.

And another armed car-jacking in Tremont:

 

Assailants pistol-whip, carjack Tremont resident outside his home

Two unknown assailants pistol-whipped and carjacked a man early Wednesday outside his home in the Tremont neighborhood.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/08/assailants_pistol-whip_carjack.html#incart_m-rpt-1

 

EDIT: oops, yeah, as TPH2 pointed out, this was already reported above. I was thinking today was Wednesday. Thankfully not.

^ Sounds like that's the same one that was mentioned above

joecimperman ‏@joecimperman  4m4 minutes ago

.@TremontWest W 14/Abbey -zonecar involved in crash w/entrapment cw felony vehicle sighted. CFD,EMS responding.details as they are received.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Can't tell if there is an actual increase in violent crime or if present media coverage focuses on the issue more.  Regardless, it seems like residents of the near-west side are becoming ATMs for criminals.

 

Tremont couple robbed at gunpoint at Edgewater Park in Cleveland

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Tremont resident Katie Merkur wasn't going to let the men who robbed her and her boyfriend at Edgewater Park get away easy.

 

When the two gun-wielding men sped away after the Thursday morning stickup, Merkur, with boyfriend Michael Flaherty in tow, got behind the wheel of her car and gave chase.

 

"We obviously couldn't fight back with guns to our heads, but I couldn't just let them get away without at least trying to catch them with a plate number police could look for," Merkur said in an interview Friday.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/08/tremont_couple_robbed_at_gunpo.html#incart_river

Can't tell if there is an actual increase in violent crime or if present media coverage focuses on the issue more.  Regardless, it seems like residents of the near-west side are becoming ATMs for criminals.

I said this months ago when there was a rash of broken car windows in Tremont. There is blood in the water and the clowns at NEOMG smell clicks. Remember the weekly crime reports about Cleveland Heights last year? The current hot button is Tremont. Look at the other headline at the top: "Cleveland police officer in serious condition after deadly Tremont crash testified in Michael Brelo trial"

It's like an algorithm.  "CPD" + "Tremont" + "Brelo" = NEOMG click bonanza.

Regardless of whether or not CPD is doing this for clicks, the fact that these crimes are happening is disheartening. I really hope they catch these @&$!?*#%

Can't tell if there is an actual increase in violent crime or if present media coverage focuses on the issue more.  Regardless, it seems like residents of the near-west side are becoming ATMs for criminals.

 

Tremont couple robbed at gunpoint at Edgewater Park in Cleveland

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Tremont resident Katie Merkur wasn't going to let the men who robbed her and her boyfriend at Edgewater Park get away easy.

 

When the two gun-wielding men sped away after the Thursday morning stickup, Merkur, with boyfriend Michael Flaherty in tow, got behind the wheel of her car and gave chase.

 

"We obviously couldn't fight back with guns to our heads, but I couldn't just let them get away without at least trying to catch them with a plate number police could look for," Merkur said in an interview Friday.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/08/tremont_couple_robbed_at_gunpo.html#incart_river

 

The worst part:

 

We called the cops, who took 45 minutes to get there and seemed very disinterested in the details of what we had just gone through.

Can't tell if there is an actual increase in violent crime or if present media coverage focuses on the issue more.  Regardless, it seems like residents of the near-west side are becoming ATMs for criminals.

 

Tremont couple robbed at gunpoint at Edgewater Park in Cleveland

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Tremont resident Katie Merkur wasn't going to let the men who robbed her and her boyfriend at Edgewater Park get away easy.

 

When the two gun-wielding men sped away after the Thursday morning stickup, Merkur, with boyfriend Michael Flaherty in tow, got behind the wheel of her car and gave chase.

 

"We obviously couldn't fight back with guns to our heads, but I couldn't just let them get away without at least trying to catch them with a plate number police could look for," Merkur said in an interview Friday.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/08/tremont_couple_robbed_at_gunpo.html#incart_river

 

The worst part:

 

We called the cops, who took 45 minutes to get there and seemed very disinterested in the details of what we had just gone through.

 

It is a union gig....and I have to believe they become very desensitized after seeing and hearing these stories every day.

Regardless of whether or not CPD is doing this for clicks, the fact that these crimes are happening is disheartening. I really hope they catch these @&$!?*#%

 

Exactly its bad either way so I dont understand when everyone tries to minimize these things.  Even this pro Cleveland person says:

"I've seen this city at its best and, what seems like currently, its worst," Merkur said. "It just fuels my fire to make it a better place."

Again. Unacceptable that the city would throw $21 million reserve funds at the Browns scoreboards and not use reserve money to aggressively strategize combating crime. Additional patrol, bait cars, bait pedestrians. The criminals are likely not smart people, they just jump on opportunity. Our leadership and police need to make the predators, the prey. Its all reactive right now

I would agree with that.

 

What I have really noticed since I have been back is that as others have claimed crime iwsnt any worse, it really seems to me that it is much more widespread now.  Im sure it has something to do with how the most crime ridden neighborhoods have emptied out and only continued to spread to various places.  So the "safe" neighborhoods have really dwindled. 

 

 

I would agree with that.

 

What I have really noticed since I have been back is that as others have claimed crime iwsnt any worse, it really seems to me that it is much more widespread now.  Im sure it has something to do with how the most crime ridden neighborhoods have emptied out and only continued to spread to various places.  So the "safe" neighborhoods have really dwindled. 

 

 

 

Many neighborhoods now also attract a far greater quantity of naive people coming around for restaurants, bars, etc.      This young couple was from Tremont but at Edgewater at 5 am, which one would assume is a relatively out of the way place with not much to worry about.  I guess they thought wrong. 

Latest update - driver of the sedan that crashed died, and was a suspect in recent robberies in the area.

 

That's one way to take a bite out of crime. Sorry, channeling my 1980s McRuff The Crime Dog.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Again. Unacceptable that the city would throw $21 million reserve funds at the Browns scoreboards and not use reserve money to aggressively strategize combating crime. Additional patrol, bait cars, bait pedestrians. The criminals are likely not smart people, they just jump on opportunity. Our leadership and police need to make the predators, the prey. Its all reactive right now

 

The cops are convinced that current leadership does not have their back if things get complicated.  That's why Steve Loomis got returned to the union presidency. They're not going to do anything different or proactive until that changes.

 

Which means it has to change.  Things can't be like they are now in eleven months.

Regardless of whether or not CPD is doing this for clicks, the fact that these crimes are happening is disheartening. I really hope they catch these @&$!?*#%

 

Exactly its bad either way so I dont understand when everyone tries to minimize these things.  Even this pro Cleveland person says:

"I've seen this city at its best and, what seems like currently, its worst," Merkur said. "It just fuels my fire to make it a better place."

 

I think she may have meant this incident was the city at its worst.

69-year-old downtown Cleveland valet beaten for car keys http://t.co/4bjLjLH7N0 http://t.co/N8LzUtZfi3

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Regardless of whether or not CPD is doing this for clicks, the fact that these crimes are happening is disheartening. I really hope they catch these @&$!?*#%

 

Exactly its bad either way so I dont understand when everyone tries to minimize these things.  Even this pro Cleveland person says:

"I've seen this city at its best and, what seems like currently, its worst," Merkur said. "It just fuels my fire to make it a better place."

 

I think she may have meant this incident was the city at its worst.

 

Thats how I took it. 

"@MVielhaber: Cleveland police investigating a double shooting. A scene on Clark/W44 & a car full of bullet holes at Metro. http://t.co/e0lhfb3nhQ"

 

"@MVielhaber: Police are not sure what led up to the shooting but the victims drove to Metro. Car has 10 bullet holes. http://t.co/a7gBgne1IP"

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Um.

 

Official: Cleveland fire department responds to The Flats to recover body from water

 

Courtney Danser

 

Cleveland fire department is working to recover a body from the water in The Flats, fire officials tell newsnet5.com.

 

They responded to the area of Scranton Road at the Eagle Street Bridge just before 8 a.m. Tuesday.

 

 

read more: http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/cleveland-fire-department-responds-to-the-flats-to-recover-body-from-water

Far upriver from the entertainment district, thus likely unrelated to it.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Still very unfortunate. It's impossible to untie these sorts of events from the public perception of the entertainment area getting tarnished, regardless of the circumstances. IDK what happened and I know the entire riverbank can't be policed 24/7 but it's not good to have bodies in the river and fights breaking out.

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