December 25, 20195 yr Not saying this didn’t happen, and not saying crime takes a break on a holiday.. but more times than not safety forces arrive and learn these calls are not as advertised. Merry Christmas everyone! Support local business, enjoy a Great Lakes Xmas Ale!
January 2, 20205 yr Moving conversation about the shooting that happened outside of Medusa: 3 hours ago, roman totale XVII said: It’s certainly the second, possibly the third, shooting incident at that club in the last 12 months or so. On top of the other shootings, there are weekly street races happening right outside the club late at night around 2am/3am. While I agree with you @inlovewithCLE, Medusa is wild at best. Celebrities visiting is at the bottom of the list when it comes to building and maintaining a safe downtown/neighborhood. If we want celebrities to visit/live here, we need to make sure shootings and street racing are not occurring. Side Note: it's ridiculous the police haven't caught onto the street racing yet. It also takes place on Prospect Ave with patrons from Chicago’s Home of Chicken & Waffles. The restaurant occasionally turns into a club at night.
January 2, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, downtownjoe said: Side Note: it's ridiculous the police haven't caught onto the street racing yet. It also takes place on Prospect Ave with patrons from Chicago’s Home of Chicken & Waffles. The restaurant occasionally turns into a club at night. I'm surprised about Chicago's Home. I went there with my wife to catch some live jazz and have dinner and it seemed like a laid back place.
January 2, 20205 yr 30 minutes ago, freefourur said: I'm surprised about Chicago's Home. I went there with my wife to catch some live jazz and have dinner and it seemed like a laid back place. Over the last few months, I've heard and seen some things on Prospect outside of the restaurant that I never saw in the past three years: Fights Nothing out of the ordinary for a place that has a drunk crowd. The bad part is these fights usually spill onto the street and it looks like a scene from a Saturday night on West 6th except there are no police or law enforcement to be found. I wish they'd keep it on the sidewalk or elsewhere and quit forcing people driving down the road to reroute their drive and residents on the street to lose sleep. Street racing This is the most aggravating one. Cars and motorcycles speeding from East 14th and Prospect down to East 9th and Prospect. I did some "research" out of my window which has a view of the entire street and patrons from the restaurant after close were involved in every aspect of the race (driving, filming, cheering, etc.). Next morning you'll walk down to broken bottles of wine or liquor on the sidewalks where the same people were seen cheering, screaming, filming, etc. All of this happens after close (2am/3am). I know a place can't be responsible for their patrons after they leave their establishment. Overall, it's a bad look for the city. Prospect is starting to come back to life with places like Chicago's home, Domino's, a yoga place, a dispensary, businesses, condo/apartments, etc. but the only time I see law enforcement or the city caring about the street is when there's a parking ban. These street races/street brawls and broken bottles littering the sidewalk should be of the cities concern.
January 2, 20205 yr I do remember one of the front windows was boarded up because we sat the bar and it felt cold. I wonder if some fighting was the cause of the busted window.
January 2, 20205 yr The place is not the issue, bad people are the issue! Bad people are white, black, purple and green. The question I have is what compels anyone to pull out a gun to show how tough they are? The deeper issue is understanding the social economic reasons for this behavior and beginning to address it. I believe this is happening with some very positive improvement in the schools. As second area starts at home and I will not share my thoughts on this as it is too complicated. There also needs to be steeper consequences for ones actions. For instance, in New York, if you are in criminal position of a firearm, its automatically 1 year term. Just ask Plaxico Burress. While Ohio has different firearm laws, there needs to be more effective deterrent. Just a few thoughts on my end.
January 2, 20205 yr Good lord. The other day I was just making fun of my Floridian gf because news stations in FLA had warning segments against this sort of thing. I had no idea people actually did this in this country. Turns out the victim and the shooter in this case were friends of friends of mine. They both worked in popular restaurants. https://www.cleveland.com/crime/2020/01/cleveland-man-charged-in-girlfriends-death-while-firing-celebratory-gunshots-new-years-day.html
January 3, 20205 yr Funny how certain people love to accuse the Admins and Mods of being “trigger happy” when it comes to shutting bullsh!t down, especially when it’s not their time and effort being used to clean things up and keep threads on topic. Seems like a microcosm in some ways... ? clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
January 24, 20205 yr Triple-3-alarm fire "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 24, 20205 yr For you East Siders, Lido Lounge is a strip club that's been there for decades. One can only imagine what this "knife fight" was about...... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 24, 20205 yr ^The Lido Lounge. Dan Polk talked about that place on one of his CD's. Talked about the quality talent there and the outrageous $2 cover charge.
January 24, 20205 yr Fire at Reserve Square has been put out. Per Channel 19: "The fire originated in a garbage chute, no injuries have been reported and scores of residents evacuated." https://www.cleveland19.com/2020/01/24/fire-downtown-cleveland-high-rise-prompts-heavy-first-responder-presence/
January 24, 20205 yr 6 hours ago, Pugu said: ^The Lido Lounge. Dan Polk talked about that place on one of his CD's. Talked about the quality talent there and the outrageous $2 cover charge. Worst place in town from a dancer's perspective, and only the Amber on Brookpark even comes close. None of the women I've known over the years would even consider working there. Nasty facilities, poor treatment by management, and often indifferent security. Departure time is supposedly a free for all, at the more dancer friendly clubs it can resemble a military operation. (I've seen Amber's, it was bad, but a friend told me Lido makes Amber look like the Executive Den years ago, or one of the Horses in this regard.) The customers get away with a lot. Combine that with the conditions for the dancers, and one can imagine the quality of both. Edited January 24, 20205 yr by E Rocc
January 24, 20205 yr ^Interesting. Never thought much about "departure time". Is that a procedure so that the girls can leave safely without being followed or something by the customers?
February 15, 20205 yr Oops: Motorist, passenger take car for a swim near the Greater Cleveland Aquarium in the Flats https://www.cleveland.com/crime/2020/02/motorist-passenger-take-car-for-a-swim-near-the-greater-cleveland-aquarium-in-the-flats.html CLEVELAND, Ohio – Cleveland police rescued two men from a car after they drove it into the Cuyahoga River Friday night, according to a police spokeswoman. The incident happened about 11:30 p.m. at Riverbed Street and Elm Avenue just south of the Greater Cleveland Aquarium and Jacob’s Pavilion at Nautica, Cleveland police spokeswoman Sgt. Jennifer Ciaccia said. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
February 15, 20205 yr Haven't seen any other news about this -- then again, it's in an area of town the media doesn't care about. Earlier reports from NE Ohio Scanner were that it was the result of a head-on collision.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 15, 20205 yr On 1/24/2020 at 1:09 PM, Pugu said: ^Interesting. Never thought much about "departure time". Is that a procedure so that the girls can leave safely without being followed or something by the customers? Exactly. I've picked up dancers I was dating, and if you are sitting in the car waiting someone is going to come out and ask who you are waiting for, and you'd better give them her real name. This is also the reason for the fake names.....safety. I'd walk them out to their car at Gee's as well, when requested. Edited February 15, 20205 yr by E Rocc
February 19, 20205 yr Burned, Dismembered Body Found In Cleveland Firefighters were called to a brush fire on Wednesday morning. They found the dismembered remains of a person near the fire. https://patch.com/ohio/cleveland/burned-dismembered-body-found-cleveland "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 22, 20205 yr Geigers on Euclid broken into for the, by my reckoning, third time in the last few months. Made a real mess to the doors this time. ? I know they’re an exception to most places, by having high-value things like $1k Canada Goose coats in the window, but it’s not good. Doesn’t help the case at all for downtown retail. My hovercraft is full of eels
February 22, 20205 yr 4 hours ago, roman totale XVII said: Geigers on Euclid broken into for the, by my reckoning, third time in the last few months. Made a real mess to the doors this time. ? I know they’re an exception to most places, by having high-value things like $1k Canada Goose coats in the window, but it’s not good. Doesn’t help the case at all for downtown retail. It's pathetic really. Do other city downtowns have this problem? Columbus? Cincy still has a Sacks downtown and I would love to see if they have break ins on the scale of Geigers. But it's even just Geigers. That Chicken & Waffles place has a boarded up window and now I just saw Paninis downtown has a boarded up window. About 100 cars have been broken into in the last 3 weeks. What the hell is wrong with the property crime in this city?
February 25, 20205 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 25, 20205 yr On 2/22/2020 at 5:12 PM, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said: It's pathetic really. Do other city downtowns have this problem? Columbus? Cincy still has a Sacks downtown and I would love to see if they have break ins on the scale of Geigers. But it's even just Geigers. That Chicken & Waffles place has a boarded up window and now I just saw Paninis downtown has a boarded up window. About 100 cars have been broken into in the last 3 weeks. What the hell is wrong with the property crime in this city? 1. The “Sacks” in downtown Cincinnati closed years ago. 2. Yes, every city has this problem, even in much more bustling retail districts than Euclid Ave. Same with the car break-ins. Yes, it’s inexcusable and frustrating. But no, it is NOT an only in Cleveland thing. As far as this is concerned, the woe-is Cleveland attitude has no place ?. The Outrage On 14th Street Was Just Burglarized For The Third Time In Three Months VIDEO SHOWS DARING SMASH-AND-GRAB ROBBERY IN SOHO Nearly 50 cars vandalized in the Loop; Man arrested Edited February 25, 20205 yr by brtshrcegr
February 25, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, KJP said: Easiest way to slow down traffic on side streets is to go back down a layer to bricks.
March 8, 20205 yr The location in the above article isn't clear, so here it is: Edited March 8, 20205 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 2, 20205 yr This is nuts........ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 4, 20205 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 11, 20205 yr Just came across this article from last year while researching west-side properties. If you ever wondered why there are so many independent used-car dealers (and car washes, barbershops, dry cleaners and nail salons) in the inner city, this is why. Nah, no organized crime anymore in Cleveland.... FBI, police look at City Side Wholesale car dealership in money-laundering probe It's hard to say how many businesses are laundering drug money. When it comes to smaller, independent car lots, Pinjuh said: "Only your imagination will tell you how many of these guys are doing the same thing." Car lots might be willing to launder drug money for a number of reasons, beyond simply making a sale, Rasoletti said. They can ask for a higher price than what a legitimate buyer might be willing to pay. They can also set up fake liens or leasing arrangements so if the car is seized in a later crime, it will be returned to the dealership, instead of being forfeited to law enforcement. Other businesses that deal in cash, such as car washes, barbershops and dry cleaners, have been known to launder money. Assistant U.S. Attorney Bob Bulford, who prosecuted the Miller case, believes nail salons are sometimes set up for that purpose. MORE: https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2009/02/city_side_wholesale_car_dealer.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 19, 20205 yr Horrific "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 24, 20205 yr Seen a few of these car-to-car fights with cars ramming each other and/or shooting each other.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 24, 20205 yr 20 minutes ago, KJP said: Seen a few of these car-to-car fights with cars ramming each other and/or shooting each other.... Seems to be a lot of activity in the area lately
April 30, 20205 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 12, 20205 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 26, 20205 yr 8 hours ago, urbanetics_ said: Absolutely awful. Say what you want about Trivvisonno and his ilk, they are correct that the old organized crime gangs had way to much internal discipline to do things like this. The mafia or Danny Greene would have killed any of their own people who did random drive bys.
May 26, 20205 yr 29 minutes ago, E Rocc said: Say what you want about Trivvisonno and his ilk, they are correct that the old organized crime gangs had way to much internal discipline to do things like this. The mafia or Danny Greene would have killed any of their own people who did random drive bys. Generally I'd agree. There were exceptions. I was almost one of them when shrapnel from a car bomb landed a few feet away from me on Waterloo Road in the mid-70s. (I was a kid, and had no idea what had just happened until hours later.) But in general, yes, the old Mafia tended to go after each other, and not civilians, and (generally) not even uninvolved family members. They went to some lengths to avoid civilian casualties, and the heat that would result from both law enforcement and, as you mentioned, from their own families. The relative lack of morality and intelligence of today's bangers and thugs is remarkable, but perhaps not surprising, given the devastation to poor and minority families that resulted from the economic climate and vicious "Great Society" programs from the 60s forward. Fatherless kids rarely fail to get into trouble, especially when they are raised to believe, not entirely without justification, that they are unlikely to have anything resembling a decent future. I'm not amazed that more poor and minority (and other) kids get into trouble nowadays. I'm rather quite impressed that so many manage *not* to do so.
May 26, 20205 yr 11 minutes ago, jtadams said: Generally I'd agree. There were exceptions. I was almost one of them when shrapnel from a car bomb landed a few feet away from me on Waterloo Road in the mid-70s. (I was a kid, and had no idea what had just happened until hours later.) But in general, yes, the old Mafia tended to go after each other, and not civilians, and (generally) not even uninvolved family members. They went to some lengths to avoid civilian casualties, and the heat that would result from both law enforcement and, as you mentioned, from their own families. The relative lack of morality and intelligence of today's bangers and thugs is remarkable, but perhaps not surprising, given the devastation to poor and minority families that resulted from the economic climate and vicious "Great Society" programs from the 60s forward. Fatherless kids rarely fail to get into trouble, especially when they are raised to believe, not entirely without justification, that they are unlikely to have anything resembling a decent future. I'm not amazed that more poor and minority (and other) kids get into trouble nowadays. I'm rather quite impressed that so many manage *not* to do so. I really can't disagree with any of this, though I would say that belief they are raised with is all too often a self fulfilling prophecy. By the way, I don't know if you have been on Waterloo lately but the spot where Danny lived is still a vacant lot, with a big "Ka Boom" mural on the adjacent wall. I tagged it as the Danny Green memorial wall on Facebook. I saw a car parked in the lot the other day, the first time in nearly four years living nearby I have seen such a thing.
May 26, 20205 yr 43 minutes ago, E Rocc said: Say what you want about Trivvisonno and his ilk, they are correct that the old organized crime gangs had way to much internal discipline to do things like this. The mafia or Danny Greene would have killed any of their own people who did random drive bys. In Sicily they kill women and children. I happened to be there two years ago when three kids who had witnessed a mafia crime- were killed. This code is just window dressing.
May 26, 20205 yr 39 minutes ago, Clefan98 said: In Sicily they kill women and children. I happened to be there two years ago when three kids who had witnessed a mafia crime- were killed. This code is just window dressing. People have a romanticized vision of the mafia. They will kill children, cops, business owners who pay for "protection." I wish people would stop believing in the honor of the mafia.
May 26, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, freefourur said: People have a romanticized vision of the mafia. They will kill children, cops, business owners who pay for "protection." I wish people would stop believing in the honor of the mafia. Children of the mafia (who have done nothing to "earn" their good fortune) do very well in society.
May 26, 20205 yr 9 minutes ago, freefourur said: People have a romanticized vision of the mafia. They will kill children, cops, business owners who pay for "protection." I wish people would stop believing in the honor of the mafia. Triv said it so it must be true though.
May 26, 20205 yr ^ Rationalization of mafia violence vs. violence of today seems to be coded racism. White criminals = noble gentlemen Black criminals = murderous thugs. I can't think of any other logic for these beliefs.
May 26, 20205 yr 14 minutes ago, freefourur said: ^ Rationalization of mafia violence vs. violence of today seems to be coded racism. White criminals = noble gentlemen Black criminals = murderous thugs. I can't think of any other logic for these beliefs. The Russian mafia are white and they are as callous as any black street gang.
May 26, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Cavalier Attitude said: Children of the mafia (who have done nothing to "earn" their good fortune) do very well in society. See: the guy who owns key tower
May 30, 20205 yr America makes me less proud of her by the day..... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 30, 20205 yr 9 minutes ago, GISguy said: Without posting 300 pics. Here's my thread from today's protest Euclid Avenue is in shambles. Rebol on Public Square is decimated and they even shattered windows in the theatre district.
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