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They showed up within about 45 minutes when my car got stolen and recovered it by the next day.

 

I'm glad to read this.

 

I am as well, but it must be a fluke.  Everyone in my neighborhood is up in arms over the horrific response times.  Lots of talk of the Wild West....everyone get your guns and protect the neighborhood without the help of police!

 

Oh, we're already well armed.  They found the car because it was parked not that far away, but AFAIK made no progress as far as catching the perpetrators. 

 

It's a good idea to be armed, and watch out for the neighborhood.  That's how Beulah Park is.  It's pretty quiet.  I can walk across the park to the lake without any major concerns.  You don't see much nonsense in Murray Hill either, and the rep is the same.

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Woman killed in Cleveland bar during armed robbery

 

One woman was shot dead late Monday and another woman pistol-whipped in the head during an armed robbery at a bar on the city's West Side.

 

Melissa Brinker, 44, was shot dead trying to call 911 after she locked herself in a backroom of the Cooley Lounge in the 3600 block of West 130th Street, police said.

 

Read more: http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/10/woman_shot_dead_in_cleveland_b.html

I feel like I'm reading a lot about West 130th lately, all for the wrong reasons.

I feel like I'm reading a lot about West 130th lately, all for the wrong reasons.

 

For a while it seemed like West boulevard or West 100 area, but yeah bad things seem to be shifting west.  Not good. 

Just down the street from Second District CPD headquarters.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Woman killed in Cleveland bar during armed robbery

 

One woman was shot dead late Monday and another woman pistol-whipped in the head during an armed robbery at a bar on the city's West Side.

 

Melissa Brinker, 44, was shot dead trying to call 911 after she locked herself in a backroom of the Cooley Lounge in the 3600 block of West 130th Street, police said.

 

Read more: http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/10/woman_shot_dead_in_cleveland_b.html

 

In many perhaps most bars, kicking in the locked office door will get you ventilated....

This was someone a friend of mine was close with. It's really tragic. Not that all murders aren't, but you know, 11:30 in some regular old bar and someone comes in and shoots you to death? WTAF.

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So I have a question. I was mugged in front of my apartment building on Thursday evening (8 pm) whereas they took $50 in cash, a debit and credit card (both locked a few minutes later), and a phone (bricked even with a fresh sim card). One came up the sidewalk, the other from the big bushes in front of the building.

 

I called my landlord to report that I would not be paying the remainder of my rent (December) based on the contract (#16, providing a safe environment). Is it fair to say that having untrimmed bushes, with easy access to the rear (and where there is a lot of trampled growth), broken lights, a broken garage door and unsecured security doors, be a break in that contract? Should I get a lawyer? It's $750 that I won't be paying - and my lease is up at the end of the year. I also have $750 in a deposit.

 

FWIW, there are three other tenants not paying for the same security issues (and the slumming of the landlord).

First off, I'm sorry this happened.

 

I think you'll have a tough case legally unless you have documented instances of bringing these issues to his attention prior to the attack. Any lawyer could say well, if nobody told him about these problems, he wasn't given a chance to fix them and make them right.

 

If you DID bring them to his attention previously, then yes, I would suggest you might have a case.

 

You cannot just call your landlord and you can't just not pay the rent. You can, however, send a formal written letter saying you will pay your rent into an escrow account until such time as these repairs are effected, and that you plan to deduct X portion from your December rent based on the incident. I would strongly suggest either cc to a lawyer or draft for a lawyer friend to sign their name to (or have a lawyer friend draft if you can afford it), and then go set up the escrow account immediately.

 

You can't just not pay rent. That's not the way things work. But "escrow" terrifies every landlord. I would encourage your other tenant friends to do the same. Put simply, you can quickly and easily be evicted for non-payment of rent, no matter the reason, but they can't throw you out if you are still paying, but into escrow.

 

All that being said, untrimmed bushes isn't exactly a documented danger, and the other things that are broken don't directly play into your attack. But a lawyer could structure the letter to indicate that the general state of disrepair makes the building and tenants appear to be a target as nobody is minding the store type of thing. Unsecured security doors, if the doors are listed in your lease for example, are a direct problem and should be addressed in your letter. But as you were attacked in front of the building, none of those things really play into it.

 

If he gets a good lawyer, he could easily fight this, make the repairs and compel all of you to pay. In short, it's a bit of a stretch to say an overgrown bush caused you to be a victim, but it's worth a shot and if you want to do it, the above is how I would go about it.

Agreed on the escrow amount approach.

 

Then again, your lease is up at the end of the year. Maybe time to just walk away -- but with a parting shot after you get your deposit back. Call one of those 5 on your side/Carl Monday types.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Thanks - I'm going on a limb and say that a lawyer would be far more expensive than one month's rent and would lead to the same outcome. It's not as if they have been taking my calls, anyways, since we've been through three property managers in just under a year.

 

I had planned on leaving at the end of the year anyways (out of the state), and this gives me more the reason to do so (no offense to Cleveland).

 

I'll throw some money into escrow and notify the landlord of the specifics in a letter with photos.

^Your argument is probably better if you are also moving out without delay.  I doubt you can choose to stay for the remainder of your lease AND justifiably not pay the rent.  Even with moving out, you are likely to end up in housing court on the question you ask.

In other markets (don't know about Cleveland), it's pretty common for tenants to skip their last month's rent even without your circumstances, and to force the LL to apply the security deposit instead. If you haven't damaged the unit beyond normal wear and tear, it's pretty unlikely the LL would even try to come after you, because there isn't much in it for them. Just make sure you photograph your unit as you move out as evidence of its condition to prevent a fraudulent claim of damage by a particularly nasty LL.

 

Hate to say it, but IMO this is getting more attention than it would if he was black, and much less than if he was a girl of any race.

This was my friend's nephew. It received more media attention than usual because they poured a lot of their own resources into getting the word out. The family is pretty large and it didn't take long for news to spread. It was a kid who was out at lunch and didn't return. I'm not sure of the circumstances but some of the media outlets cut out parts of the father's speech and made it seem like the kid was dealing.

This was my friend's nephew. It received more media attention than usual because they poured a lot of their own resources into getting the word out. The family is pretty large and it didn't take long for news to spread. It was a kid who was out at lunch and didn't return. I'm not sure of the circumstances but some of the media outlets cut out parts of the father's speech and made it seem like the kid was dealing.

 

They'll do that.  To be honest, the first thing I noticed was no ink and no apparent attempt at emulating gang culture.  That doesn't mean he wasn't, but it makes it a hell of a lot less likely particularly in an abandoned house.

 

There's plenty of possible scenarios, including that he went to talk a friend out of using.  In fact, that one's very likely since if he was buying/using he'd be under the protection of whatever gang runs that house.  It's not well known among the suburban white kids who go on "daring adventures into the depths of the hood” to buy things, but they are under some pretty serious protection while they are there.  Illicitly preying upon customers in someone else’s territory is at least as severe an offense as selling there.

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/woman-shot-in-head-after-leaving-lidos-lounge

 

This place will be closed soon since no one is going to want to go.

 

More likely, it will be closed because of the business' culpability in employing someone who was reportedly a participant in an armed robbery.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

This is at Ohio Savings Plaza. I didn't even know there was a club in there....

 

Man shot in fight at East 9th Street club

Saturday, December 3rd 2016, 12:17 pm EST

Posted by Cleveland 19 Digital TeamCONNECT

 

CLEVELAND, OH (WOIO) - A 28-year-old man was shot in the leg after a fight at Club C'est La Vie on East 9th Street Friday night.

 

The shooting happened around 2 a.m. The victim told officers that he was in the back of the club when a fight broke out at the bar between multiple women.

 

http://www.cleveland19.com/story/33859498/man-shot-in-fight-at-east-9th-street-club

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

This is at Ohio Savings Plaza. I didn't even know there was a club in there....

 

Man shot in fight at East 9th Street club

Saturday, December 3rd 2016, 12:17 pm EST

Posted by Cleveland 19 Digital TeamCONNECT

 

CLEVELAND, OH (WOIO) - A 28-year-old man was shot in the leg after a fight at Club C'est La Vie on East 9th Street Friday night.

 

The shooting happened around 2 a.m. The victim told officers that he was in the back of the club when a fight broke out at the bar between multiple women.

 

http://www.cleveland19.com/story/33859498/man-shot-in-fight-at-east-9th-street-club

Facebook page looks like one of the fly-by-night "Ultra Lounges", though at least they knew not to use that name. 

It's basically the same club that they've been chasing around Downtown for at least a couple decades.  Maybe different name, different owner, but the same club.  It'll be closed down after the next shooting, and shortly after another will pop up to take it's place.  Within 18 to 24 months and two shootings that one will be closed, too.

What organized crime figures run this nomadic nuisance? What has kept them out of prison? Campaign contributions? Unwillingness to use the RICO statutes against them?

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

You didn't get my point.  Yes, you shut down one.  Maybe those owners go away.  But the same damn thing, attracting the same damn problems pops up shortly after.  First shooting, they get a warning.  Second shooting they get closed.  Lather. Rinse. Repeat.  Over/under is 18 months.

What organized crime figures run this nomadic nuisance? What has kept them out of prison? Campaign contributions? Unwillingness to use the RICO statutes against them?

 

I'd be shocked if the George family doesn't have a silent stake in most of them. 

 

But these types of bars are pretty much doomed to short life cycles anyway, because their base clientele is very fickle and aren't very good customers towards the direct employees (who don't stick around long).  Get the money out, and get out one step ahead of the licensing/sales tax people.

You didn't get my point.  Yes, you shut down one.  Maybe those owners go away.  But the same damn thing, attracting the same damn problems pops up shortly after.  First shooting, they get a warning.  Second shooting they get closed.  Lather. Rinse. Repeat.  Over/under is 18 months.

 

Give me a little credit here. The RICO statue penetrates various corporate shields and charges all of those involved, however peripheral, for engaging in a pattern of criminal activity. The fact that corporate entities come and go evinces that pattern and actually underscores that an unincorporated criminal enterprise may be at work here, especially if any of the participants can be tied together in any way (including through testimony, surveillance, etc.). RICO's greatest success comes from its harsh penalties which causes the peripheral participants, who fear long prison sentences, to inform on those higher up and more protected in the ongoing criminal enterprise.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I think X is speaking more metaphorically and definitely contemplating something outside the reach of RICO. It is a problem without a solution.

It is a problem without a solution.

 

No such thing.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

It is a problem without a solution.

 

No such thing.

 

Well, you sure ain't gonna solve it by bringing RICO cases.  You could 'solve' it by passing an ordinance outlawing dance clubs and bars that play music in downtown, but that is not going to happen.  You pass a law much narrower than that, and the City will likely find itself in court, losing badly. 

And that's why this city, state and country can't manage its affairs anymore. Too corrupt, too self-incapacitated, too incapable of governing...

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

This is one of the worst things I've seen in a long long time. Like a bad after school special.

 

Leannais eventually picked the gun up, lowered it to his side pulled the trigger, unaware a bullet was in the chamber....

 

 

Cleveland man charged in deadly accidental shooting at dinner party 'extremely sorry,' attorney says

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/12/cleveland_man_charged_in_deadl_3.html

 

 

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What organized crime figures run this nomadic nuisance? What has kept them out of prison? Campaign contributions? Unwillingness to use the RICO statutes against them?

 

Organized crime is all but faded in cleveland.

This officer was directing traffic after another incident where a car clipped a fire truck that was responding to an accident.

 

This infuriates me to no end. I've been out there on the shoulder changing a tire and had an officer assist me and it's incredibly dangerous to be out there. Despite laws that mandate you slow down or move over (the latter is always preferred), we were clipped. We came out with no injuries. I drive quite a lot and always have the respect and common courtesy to move over (or slow way down and move to the left side of my lane) - but quite a lot of others do not.

This officer was directing traffic after another incident where a car clipped a fire truck that was responding to an accident.

 

This infuriates me to no end. I've been out there on the shoulder changing a tire and had an officer assist me and it's incredibly dangerous to be out there. Despite laws that mandate you slow down or move over (the latter is always preferred), we were clipped. We came out with no injuries. I drive quite a lot and always have the respect and common courtesy to move over (or slow way down and move to the left side of my lane) - but quite a lot of others do not.

 

Had this happen the other day.  Not a lot of traffic around, a box truck has his hazards on and is on the side of the road.  Not out of their truck, but maybe checking something.  Still, common sense tells you to pull into the left lane and give them their space.  Again, no traffic around, so the car behind me could pull into the left lane as well.  Nope!  I almost wanted to slow all the way down and throw soda or coffee at them.  It's beyond ridiculous that people don't obey the basics when it comes to safety in higher speed situations.

 

Unfortunately a young officer lost his life.  Thoughts go out to his family.

This officer was directing traffic after another incident where a car clipped a fire truck that was responding to an accident.

 

This infuriates me to no end. I've been out there on the shoulder changing a tire and had an officer assist me and it's incredibly dangerous to be out there. Despite laws that mandate you slow down or move over (the latter is always preferred), we were clipped. We came out with no injuries. I drive quite a lot and always have the respect and common courtesy to move over (or slow way down and move to the left side of my lane) - but quite a lot of others do not.

 

It doesn't help that driving has become a right rather than a privilege in this country.  My friend just married a German girl who was amazed when she got a drivers license here that it was only like $25 and effortless.  Her first license in Germany cost her $1500 with the training etc. 

Not all that new to the West Side. Back in the day, this kind of thing used to happen all the time on West 25th Street. Today it's common at some of the bars on Storer Avenue.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Not all that new to the West Side. Back in the day, this kind of thing used to happen all the time on West 25th Street. Today it's common at some of the bars on Storer Avenue.

 

True, and it's possible the assaliant was either dropping names or out of his territory for awhile.  But most of the gang war related stuff seems to be centered on the southeast side and adjacent burbs.

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A few things to take away from this one:

 

1.  I wish they still made more manual shift cars.

2.  Good job Cleveland police--interesting how quickly they hunted the kids down and locked them in the train.

3.  If you're going to commit these crimes, don't be a complete IDIOT and do it where all the cops live.  This probably had something to do with their response!

Cleveland carjacking suspect captured because he can't drive stick shift

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- An 18-year-old man accused of committing three armed carjackings in a 10-day span was arrested because he didn't know how to drive stick shift, according to court records.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/03/cleveland_carjacking_suspect_c.html

A few things to take away from this one:

 

1.  I wish they still made more manual shift cars.

2.  Good job Cleveland police--interesting how quickly they hunted the kids down and locked them in the train.

3.  If you're going to commit these crimes, don't be a complete IDIOT and do it where all the cops live.  This probably had something to do with their response!

Cleveland carjacking suspect captured because he can't drive stick shift

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- An 18-year-old man accused of committing three armed carjackings in a 10-day span was arrested because he didn't know how to drive stick shift, according to court records.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/03/cleveland_carjacking_suspect_c.html

 

4)  Don't leave a cellphone you just stole turned on, the tracker is running.

 

Disagree on the stick, I could never get the hang of it between my hearing and coordination.

 

They think it's better hunting over there because people are more alert on the east side, and those who aren't may be "connected".  Here's probably an example:

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/01/suv_stolen_in_cleveland_while.html

But why did they steal the cars in the first place if they were just going to leave them and jump on the rapid?

Kudos to RTA for attracting choice riders I guess?

But why did they steal the cars in the first place if they were just going to leave them and jump on the rapid?

 

He couldn't drive the car he tried to steal so.....

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