January 25, 200718 yr Regardless of if the land is taxed or not the city would still be robbing itself of 30 years of tax revenue even if just the structure. The 15 years is bad enough, but its working. As has been said before the demand for Cleveland real estate may just be able to support itself without artificial props in five or so years. I think Cleveland should wait to see what the market does before they trap themselves in 30 years worth of abatements.
January 25, 200718 yr 30 years is way too long, imho. I like the status quo. In five years, the momentum may be such that we can tweak it. I say let's allow Stark, Wolstein and Zaremba get their projects up and running. If they are successful, their products will be the draw and we won't have to rely so much on tax abatement to pull in more people to the city.
January 25, 200718 yr there are very few people who stay in a home for 30 years, let alone pay off a thirty year mortgage these days.
January 25, 200718 yr Most homes will be somewhat obsolete in 30 years (unless they were built before WWII--those homes rock!). My home was built in 1870 and renovated in the late 90s and early 00s. Its abatement runs out this year. In a way, I'm glad to be paying taxes towards the city schools. I know most don't feel that way.
January 25, 200718 yr Most homes will be somewhat obsolete in 30 years (unless they were built before WWII--those homes rock!). My home was built in 1870 and renovated in the late 90s and early 00s. Its abatement runs out this year. In a way, I'm glad to be paying taxes towards the city schools. I know most don't feel that way. I agree. My was built in 1929, but you ALL already know that! he he he :wink: And she is solid. I think you'd have to cut her down, since I don't feel like you could blew her up.
January 25, 200718 yr Most homes will be somewhat obsolete in 30 years (unless they were built before WWII--those homes rock!). My home was built in 1870 and renovated in the late 90s and early 00s. Its abatement runs out this year. In a way, I'm glad to be paying taxes towards the city schools. I know most don't feel that way. Wow, 137 years of tax abatement?! That's a bit much Wim, don't you think? Switching gears, the first phase of Lebron James townhomes on Superior & East Boulevard is making good headway. The exteriors are pretty much complete from what I can tell. Now, how about Lebron sponsors a basketball "cage" down the hill in Rockefeller Park where Cleveland can have big tournaments every year?
January 25, 200718 yr A new night club opened up next to the Charter One Global Enterprise Center on Bolivar. I don't know any details, I just heard an ad for it on the radio. I'll probably walk over there tonight to check it out.
January 25, 200718 yr Author Professionals in the City Series “Developing in Cleveland” Synopsis Event: Professionals in the City - Cleveland’s Re-development Date: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 Venue: House of Blues - 308 Euclid Ave, Cleveland, 44114 Time: 6p – 9p Presenters: Cleveland365.com, The Plain Dealer & Cleveland.com Moderator: Carolina Leid, TV reporter WEWS Channel 5 Admission: Admission is free, attendees must register via event website Event Overview: Please join us for a special roundtable discussion with a distinguished panel of major community stakeholders that have chosen to invest over a “billion dollars” in Cleveland. As they discuss obstacles they have overcome, and their outlook for the city and our region, the attending developers will answer questions as to their plans, projected timetables, and potential resurgence of city dwellers. There will be an opportunity for the audience to engage in dialogue with the panel and express their views, opinions and concerns. The developers will also give a brief overview of their current projects and insights into what “Developing in Cleveland” really means, what’s on the horizon and more importantly how this affects you. Invited Panelists: o Scott Wolstein, leading the development of the East Bank of the Flats o Bob Stark behind the effort to bring mixed living and retail to downtown Cleveland. o Doug Price, partner with K&D Group developing Stonebridge Condominiums and in addition several other regional projects. o Nate Zaremba, leading the single family residential housing efforts in the Avenue District o Ari Maron, Partner to MRN, Inc and key player of East 4th St. development. About The Professional in the City Series: Recently selected by the Cleveland Plain Dealer as “one of three best editions to the region for 2006,” Professionals in the City is a series of quarterly professional networking events with theme-focused discussions featuring a Q&A with major community stakeholders. Past speakers have included the Honorable Frank G. Jackson, Mayor City of Cleveland and U.S Representative Stephanie Tubbs-Jones, Congresswoman U.S. 11th Congressional District. To view images from previous events, log onto www.cleveland365.com. Audience: 1000+ area professionals, entrepreneurs and emerging leaders with a vested interest in the future of Greater Cleveland. Age range of audience: 25 – 49 years of age. Partnerships: To provide maximum event exposure, partnerships have been created between diverse local professional organizations such as the Downtown Cleveland Alliance and 30+ member organizations of Cleveland Connexion.. Itinerary: 6:00 – 6:30 p.m. Guests registration, Meet & Greet 6:30 – 6:45 p.m. Welcome (Terry Travis & Panel Moderator) 6:45 – 7:15 p.m. Question & Answer with Panelist 7:15 – 9:00 p.m. Networking, Food, Drinks and Music Refreshments: Hors D’oeuvres, Cocktails and Beer Entertainment: Live Band/DJ playing a diverse music selection prior to and after the dialogue. Past Sponsors include: o Keybank o Plain Dealer o First Energy Foundation o Benesh & Friedlander o LNE Group o The Presidents Council o RPM International Inc o Infotelis o Coplan and Aronoff Attorneys at Law o Cleveland.com Cleveland365.com | 1382 W. 9th St. Suite 310 Cleveland, OH 44113 | 216.373.3500 ph | [email protected] "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 25, 200718 yr "Admission: Admission is free, attendees must register via event website" And the direct link to the event is where? And don't *even* tell me that I have register to yet another site that'll fill my inbox with spam... :whip: Sending an email request to register is fine but it's 2007 - setting up an account with a site, just for the sole purpose of attending one event is more hassle than necessary. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
January 25, 200718 yr so where exactly do I sign up, i browsed their website, couldn't find anything edit: apparently both me and mayday think alike
January 25, 200718 yr Author I dunno. There was a second page to the notice, but it was mainly for media types. But I'll post it anyway.... _________________ Professionals in the City Series Presents: “Developing in Cleveland” Synopsis MEDIA CAMPAIGN Television ▪ Online ▪ Print ▪ Radio Cleveland365.com will collaborate with and target national/local print, radio, online electronic media, professional organizations and non-profit organizations, to create maximum exposure for this event. With extensive outreach in both mainstream and multicultural media, many of whom will cover this event. Past events have received coverage in The Cleveland Plain Dealer, Inside Business, Cleveland Crains Business, WEWS Newsnet 5, Scene Magazine, Jewish Community News, Hola Today, La Prenza, Akron Beacon Journal, Call & Post Newspaper, Cool Cleveland and Cleveland.com POST EVENT A post release recapping the event and the highlights will be provided to all event sponsors and media outlets. Inquiries can be sent to: Terry Travis Creator | Managing Partner Cleveland365.com Connecting our community 24 | 7 | 365 1382 W. 9th St. Suite 310 Cleveland, OH 44113 - USA 216.373.3501 ph | 216.373.3505 fax E-mail: [email protected] "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 26, 200718 yr Author Send e-mails to them ... [email protected] "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 26, 200718 yr not sure where to post it, so i decided here, a thread most of us frequent. In Union Terminal, it appears they have put back out one of the original Schedules (i.e. big gold looking thing with destinations and tracks). I only say "appear" b/c I didn't have my glasses on. Anyway, check it out, its in the corridor between the Caribou and the main Entrance.
January 26, 200718 yr Author I'l check it out. Good thing you got on the right train this morning without your glasses! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 26, 200718 yr The old Ohio Bell Building being renovated next to Cooperstown is the Cleveland Career Center. Check out the project on www.dasconstruction.com The site also has a rendering of the Cleveland Sport and Ale House (NY Spaghetti House)
January 26, 200718 yr On the DAS website they mentioned construction of an "in house banking center" for National City Bank in the West Side Market. What's up with that?
January 26, 200718 yr On the DAS website they mentioned construction of an "in house banking center" for National City Bank in the West Side Market. What's up with that? Smart move. They can capture all the vendors as clients. NCB doesn't have an OC presence and I'm sure vendors don't like carrying all the cash to the bank everyday.
January 26, 200718 yr Didn't the architecture firm renovating the fire-damaged building on w. 25th mention that a bank was "very interested" in the 1st floor space? Maybe that's where NCB will be going?
January 26, 200718 yr Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. That building is very close to the market and I'd love to see that storefront filled up.
January 26, 200718 yr hmm... Old May Co. building sold for $10+ million 2:25 p.m. 1/26/2007 no link...
January 26, 200718 yr Author hmm is right! I wonder if they've got something in mind for the building? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 26, 200718 yr http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2765513780034985960XbumGN ^ Thats an understatement...
January 26, 200718 yr $12 seems like a steal! Of course, that building is gutted currently, isn't it? I hope they have plans for it besides just sitting on top of it. Must be a good sign that sales are perking up around here, though? Bargain basement deals to be had for GOOD buildings.
January 26, 200718 yr Author Put it this way, the parking lots southeast of West 9th and St. Clair sold for $10 million last year. Parking lots! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 30, 200718 yr The old Ohio Bell Building being renovated next to Cooperstown is the Cleveland Career Center. Check out the project on www.dasconstruction.com The site also has a rendering of the Cleveland Sport and Ale House (NY Spaghetti House) Looks like they are completely building out in the parking lot - at least according to the rendering. Project Description Renovation of the existing New York Spaghetti House located within the historic Cleveland Landmark Building for conversion into the Cleveland Sport and Ale House. Construction includes the interior renovation of the existing New York Spaghetti House followed by an exterior renovation that will feature a 5,000 square foot deck hosting year round dining and entertainment. Construction is scheduled for completion this spring. When it opens, the Cleveland Sport and Ale House will encompass 12,000 square feet, and serve as an upscale sports themed restaurant and entertainment facility. The Cleveland Sport and Ale House will have 40 HD television and large screen projection style displays and will be the first fully high definition restaurant facility in the area!
January 30, 200718 yr That'll probably be pretty sweet. Too bad we'll need to demo a few more buildings to satisfy the extra parking demand!
February 3, 200718 yr I was snooping around the flats last week near Harvard Road, south of Steelyard Commons. It was for a project regarding the Tow Path Trail. I noticed some construction going on in what I thought was Alcoa, but is not.It looks like a significant addition to one of the local plants. Anybody know what this is?
February 6, 200718 yr Anyone know how many homes were constructed in Cleveland for 2006? Where can I find this info? Just curious. Thanks
February 6, 200718 yr ^Try the Planning Commission office: (216) 664-2210 They keep track of that stuff - at least they used to when I was there. If they don't have the info, try Community Development. Does anyone have an answer to my previous question?
February 6, 200718 yr Just some speculation about the construction itself - I don't see any structural steel, just framing for whatever that "building" is. My guess is that it might be for some sort of HVAC installation? I'm asking around to see if anyone knows what/where that is. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 6, 200718 yr The picture might be misleading. It is a pretty big addition. At least three stories up.
February 6, 200718 yr I hear ya - I have a pretty good feeling that it's somehow HVAC-related. 1. It looks like framing to house a large piece of equipment - I don't see any floors being built, just exterior walls. Thus that looks like it'll be enclosing a good chunk of space for something other than office use. Plus, it looks like they're building on top of an existing HVAC structure. 2. This photo shows the new building that houses the boilers/HVAC system for the Cleveland Clinic's Heart Center (just the Heart Center, not the entire Clinic). It's about 2+ stories tall and takes up a good chunk of real estate. I had to shoot some interior photos for my day job. The interior is basically an open space used to house the main boiler/economizer/etc. Anyhoo, if the Clinic has an HVAC structure this big for just the Heart Center, it's conceivable that whatever plant this is needs something substantially larger. Sorry to belabor my point. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 6, 200718 yr I was snooping around the flats last week near Harvard Road, south of Steelyard Commons. It was for a project regarding the Tow Path Trail. I noticed some construction going on in what I thought was Alcoa, but is not.It looks like a significant addition to one of the local plants. Anybody know what this is? This building is Mittal Steel's its for the steel sheet line, they're starting a new process which steel sheet needs to travel higher. this is the second time the height on this building has been changed. I know this because Mittal buys my company's products. and I have been in this building
February 6, 200718 yr Ding ding ding! Thank you for solving the mystery - I wish we had a prize for you. Well, how about at the next forum meet, we owe you a drink? :-D clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 10, 200718 yr Author Continued from the Gray's Green thread..... Now that the majority (KJP am I correct in this) of buildings downtown have been slated for residential conversion, its only a matter of time before developers start announcing plans for new commecial and residential building. Off the top of my head, here are the downtown buildings that are vacant or mostly vacant that are likely to see conversion to housing: Warehouse District: George Worthington III - midblock Johnson Court Titanic Tower (ex Cambridge Building) - SW corner West 3rd & St. Clair Unknown building - 1200 block east side of West 6th Civic Center: Rockwell Building, East 6th Street (former WKYC studios/offices) Euclid Avenue: Too numerous to get a handle on (but many do have rehab plans announced for them) Also, one of the oldest buildings still standing in the central busines district is at the corner of Ontario at High, just south of Prospect. I'm told it was built in the early to mid-1800s. Unfortunately, not only is it vacant but it's in bad shape and getting worse. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 10, 200718 yr Continued from the Gray's Green thread..... Now that the majority (KJP am I correct in this) of buildings downtown have been slated for residential conversion, its only a matter of time before developers start announcing plans for new commecial and residential building. Off the top of my head, here are the downtown buildings that are vacant or mostly vacant that are likely to see conversion to housing: Warehouse District: George Worthington III - midblock Johnson Court Titanic Tower (ex Cambridge Building) - SW corner West 3rd & St. Clair Unknown building - 1200 block east side of West 6th Civic Center: Rockwell Building, East 6th Street (former WKYC studios/offices) Euclid Avenue: Too numerous to get a handle on (but many do have rehab plans announced for them) Also, one of the old buildings still standing in the central busines district is at the corner of Ontario at High, just south of Prospect. I'm told it was built in the early to mid-1800s. Unfortunately, not only is it vacant but it's in bad shape and getting worse. thanks the Bridal Store thing between Prospece and gateway would be a great condo, hotel, condo-hotel, office-hote, or Commercial headquarters
February 10, 200718 yr The vacant office building next to the Residence Inn on Prospect would be a nice condo conversion.
February 11, 200718 yr Hells yes it would! I've been talking about that for over a year! It's just sitting there asking for it... With the demand (and short supply) for units on E. 4th, you'd think developers would be hitting the market a little faster over there. Maybe I'll get on that...
February 15, 200718 yr Crain's: Sewer district identifies next chief By JAY MILLER 2:51 pm, February 15, 2007 ...The sewer district announced that Cleveland public utilities director Julius Ciacia will replace Erwin Odeal as its executive director when Mr. Odeal retires at the end of the year...
February 15, 200718 yr Damn it! Passed over for the Northeast Ohio Regional Sewer District leader position again!
February 18, 200718 yr Watch the "American Experience" on PBS Mon. 2/19 at 9pm. Called "New York Underground" it is an hour long program about the early days of the NY subway and it's origins. Should be very cool.
February 18, 200718 yr Author From the Board of Zoning Appeals' 2/26 agenda .... 9:30 Ward 13 Calendar No. 07-21: 3901 Lakeside Avenue Joe Cimperman 7 Notices The 3849 Group Partnership LLC, owner, and Escape, Inc., lessee, appeal to change the use from offices to a private club/ nightclub a tenant space situated on a 49.10’ x 120’ portion of a corner parcel located in a B3 General Industry District on the northeast corner of Lakeside Avenue and East 39th Street at 3901 Lakeside Avenue; contrary to the Off-Street Parking and Loading Requirements, places of assembly, dance halls and similar indoor amusement or recreation uses require a total parking area that is equal to three times the gross floor area, or 18,780 square feet, and 6,750 square feet of parking area is provided, and additional parking is required for all other tenants and uses in the building, according to the provisions of Section 349.04(e) of the Codified Ordinances. (Filed 2-9-07) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 19, 200718 yr Theres another at 34th and St Clair in that area, "The Baby Grand", so maybe their trying to turn it into a mini entertainment district.
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