October 12, 20222 yr Not sure exactly where this belongs but very nice news on an area company: https://www.cleveland.com/community/2022/10/bendix-will-show-off-its-new-headquarters-in-avon-on-oct-17.html
October 13, 20222 yr 6 hours ago, Chazz Michael Michaels said: Not sure exactly where this belongs but very nice news on an area company: https://www.cleveland.com/community/2022/10/bendix-will-show-off-its-new-headquarters-in-avon-on-oct-17.html I guess locating your headquarters next to a Hobby Lobby is the cheat code to attracting top talent.
October 13, 20222 yr I assumed that any project that kept a company and jobs in the area was a good thing.
October 13, 20222 yr ^Of course it is a "good thing". Moving to an urban setting would be a "better thing". You know...Urban Ohio.
October 13, 20222 yr Author It's "sort of" in the area. Like other headquarters that are becoming less and less Cleveland, they lead or chase sprawl away from Cleveland/Cuyahoga County to the next outer ring of no-growth sprawl. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 13, 20222 yr 14 minutes ago, KJP said: It's "sort of" in the area. Like other headquarters that are becoming less and less Cleveland, they lead or chase sprawl away from Cleveland/Cuyahoga County to the next outer ring of no-growth sprawl. They were in Elyria, so they've moved closer to Cleveland. Manufacturing company HQ have little to no reason to locate in dense downtown areas, and people who transfer there from the manufacturing locations tend to be against it. In the case of SHW, tradition won out.
October 13, 20222 yr The important thing to me is that the company remains in NEO. Company locations can move in and out of the urban core as the grow, as talent expectations change, etc. If successful, companies become affiliated with the city at the center of the metro area (e.g., Amazon and Microsoft are associated with Seattle but neither company is headquarter there. Ford is associated with Detroit, etc). It all benefits the region and the city center by default - so it's all good to me.
October 13, 20222 yr 13 hours ago, freethink said: Nothing screams far flung suburban headquarters more than a retention pond... Hey now, no dissing my detention pond! At least that one is curvy and pretty, unlike the other 3 on the site... ha.
October 13, 20222 yr 46 minutes ago, KJP said: It's "sort of" in the area. Like other headquarters that are becoming less and less Cleveland, they lead or chase sprawl away from Cleveland/Cuyahoga County to the next outer ring of no-growth sprawl. Less and less Cleveland? I don’t think people who are posting negative, snarky comments actually read the article. This company has been based in Lorain County for decades. They did not move from Cleveland to a suburb.
October 13, 20222 yr 13 minutes ago, jeremyck01 said: Less and less Cleveland? I don’t think people who are posting negative, snarky comments actually read the article. This company has been based in Lorain County for decades. They did not move from Cleveland to a suburb. Ya. Didn't they move from Elyria? In some ways it's closer to downtown but at the same time it's promoting sprawl and hurting a legacy town.
October 13, 20222 yr Author 15 minutes ago, jeremyck01 said: Less and less Cleveland? I don’t think people who are posting negative, snarky comments actually read the article. This company has been based in Lorain County for decades. They did not move from Cleveland to a suburb. Commenting on sprawl isn't being negative or snarky. It's being realistic, especially for legacy cities that have been destroyed by sprawl and a region whose economic growth has been weakened if not halted by sprawl. So my comments are justified. And to be specific to the development, just because a building is being built in Lorain County doesn't mean it has to be designed like this -- auto-dependent, inaccessible, exclusionary, single-use, wasteful of land, a stormwater run-off nightmare and environmentally destructive. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 13, 20222 yr 38 minutes ago, Chazz Michael Michaels said: If successful, companies become affiliated with the city at the center of the metro area (e.g., Amazon and Microsoft are associated with Seattle but neither company is headquarter there. Ford is associated with Detroit, etc). I'm not arguing your point, but Amazon HQ is located in the urban core of Seattle.
October 13, 20222 yr 9 minutes ago, KJP said: Commenting on sprawl isn't being negative or snarky. It's being realistic, especially for legacy cities that have been destroyed by sprawl and a region whose economic growth has been weakened if not halted by sprawl. So my comments are justified. And to be specific to the development, just because a building is being built in Lorain County doesn't mean it has to be designed like this -- auto-dependent, inaccessible, exclusionary, single-use, wasteful of land, a stormwater run-off nightmare and environmentally destructive. Your comment specifically referenced Cleveland with your “less and less Cleveland” comment and I’m pointing out that this company was never in Cleveland, so it’s not a fair comparison to say, Eaton who actually moved their HQ building from the urban core to the hinterlands.
October 13, 20222 yr 3 minutes ago, jeremyck01 said: Your comment specifically referenced Cleveland with your “less and less Cleveland” comment and I’m pointing out that this company was never in Cleveland, so it’s not a fair comparison to say, Eaton who actually moved their HQ building from the urban core to the hinterlands. In some ways it's worse, Elyria desperately needs those jobs and tax revenue.
October 13, 20222 yr Author I didn't know that they were never in Cleveland. But invariably an older company like Bendix was previously headquartered in a legacy city -- Elyria, Lorain, Cleveland, etc. Now they are not. Now they're in what was a farm, field or forest in my lifetime and not because population growth forced their move. And that's sprawl. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 13, 20222 yr 24 minutes ago, KJP said: I didn't know that they were never in Cleveland. But invariably an older company like Bendix was previously headquartered in a legacy city -- Elyria, Lorain, Cleveland, etc. Now they are not. According to Wikipedia, Bendix was founded in South Bend, Indiana. They moved to Elyria in 1941. Here is the history of Bendix. https://www.bendix.com/en/aboutus/history/history_1.jsp
October 13, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, 3231 said: I'm not arguing your point, but Amazon HQ is located in the urban core of Seattle. Fair enough
October 13, 20222 yr Knorr-Bremse, which owns Bendix, could have moved the administrative hqs to Maryland (Westminster, a very rural suburb of Balimore) where the US headquarters of German K-B is located. The fact that they didn't is good news for the region. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
October 17, 20222 yr Do we have a Columbus road peninsula thread or should future discussion just be thrown in flats non east bank?@KJP during the zoning meeting today “The Pine” development mentioned a Columbus road master plan, did you ever see it or post it in the past? For others this was in zoning since the development plans to have 0 parking on the development and what would have been parking in the front was made into a finished walkway
October 17, 20222 yr Author I don't recall seeing or hearing about a Columbus Road masterplan. Perhaps the reference is to what Metroparks is planning, which involves a pretty large area of the peninsula. BTW, I don't believe Realife is going to develop anything here. I do think they're doing everything possible to increase the value of their property, however. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 17, 20222 yr Is the above a Realife proposal? That's disappointing if it is. The company seems to be all talk, little do. They just seem to be all about increasing value of various investments without the necessary development risks. Edited October 17, 20222 yr by Htsguy
October 17, 20222 yr Author 1 hour ago, Htsguy said: Is the above a Realife proposal? Yes it is. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 17, 20222 yr I don't recall seeing or hearing about a Columbus Road masterplan. Perhaps the reference is to what Metroparks is planning, which involves a pretty large area of the peninsula. BTW, I don't believe Realife is going to develop anything here. I do think they're doing everything possible to increase the value of their property, however.Second part is disappointing. As for the first it was Jim Haviland, flats forward director speaking to it. listening back sounds like it’s still in the works “We are undertaking a major stakeholder driven Columbus Road peninsula master plan and this project is one we were really focused on being a model”
October 19, 20222 yr Saw a recruitment ad on Crain's that Cleveland/Mentor is now the global HQ for Avery-Dennison. When did this happen?
October 20, 20222 yr 49 minutes ago, OldEnough said: Saw a recruitment ad on Crain's that Cleveland/Mentor is now the global HQ for Avery-Dennison. When did this happen? Wow, just saw that, too. That adds another Fortune 500 HQ to the region. Wonder why it’s received zero press? A recent google search has a lot of results that still list Glendale, CA as the HQ… so I’m thinking the move is recent. Their website clearly lists Mentor as the corporate HQ, though.
October 20, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, Klingaling87 said: Wow, just saw that, too. That adds another Fortune 500 HQ to the region. Wonder why it’s received zero press? A recent google search has a lot of results that still list Glendale, CA as the HQ… so I’m thinking the move is recent. Their website clearly lists Mentor as the corporate HQ, though. And makes 10 total for Northeast Ohio.
October 20, 20222 yr It's only their Label and Graphic Materials Regional Headquarters, corporate is still in Glendale. https://www.averydennison.com/fr/home/new-world-wide-offices.html
October 20, 20222 yr In the past, yes but I think there’s been a recent change. Check their Wikipedia page.
October 20, 20222 yr 11 minutes ago, OldEnough said: In the past, yes but I think there’s been a recent change. Check their Wikipedia page. Their wikipedia cites their 2021 10K for the Mentor HQ, but the 10K also lists Glendale as their Corp HQ... correction: wiki is poorly linked, as of their Q1 2022 10Q they list Mentor as their HQ Edited October 20, 20222 yr by Luke_S
October 20, 20222 yr 6 minutes ago, Luke_S said: Their wikipedia sites their 2021 10K for the Mentor HQ, but the 10K also lists Glendale as their Corp HQ...
October 20, 20222 yr From their website… clearly differentiates between a corporate office in Glendale, and the corporate HQ in mentor.
October 22, 20222 yr Here’s the Avery-Dennison ad I mentioned upthread. Surprising this hasn’t made more news - even if it just a tax move, or some other technicality that doesn’t result in more jobs.
October 22, 20222 yr The last SEC data I can find about the management is that the long-time Chairman/CEO still lives in Glendale and the new-this-year President/COO lives in Massachusetts. Perhaps the rest are in Mentor and they work-from-home? There is no notice of a headquarters move, but their filings all say Mentor since about last January. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
October 25, 20222 yr Spoke with a neighbor who confirmed their headquarters is Mentor now. Not sure if much corporate staff moved because of this but it will add another Fortune 500 company to the list for Greater Cleveland.
October 26, 20222 yr Author 4 hours ago, bwheats said: Spoke with a neighbor who confirmed their headquarters is Mentor now. Not sure if much corporate staff moved because of this but it will add another Fortune 500 company to the list for Greater Cleveland. See if you can find out how many are here and if more (how many) are coming. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 28, 20222 yr Author A nice little feel-good story MetroHealth adding more clinics at CMSD schools By Ken Prendergast / October 28, 2022 A mix of federal and state funds along with a partnership of MetroHealth System and the Cleveland Metropolitan School District (CMSD) have come together to spur construction of additional health clinics at four Cleveland school sites to increase basic health care services closer to where people live. A wide variety of health care services will be available at these clinics, including treatment of illnesses, mental health, sports injuries and even dental care. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2022/10/28/metrohealth-adding-more-clinics-at-cmsd-schools/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 28, 20222 yr Hey @KJPnow that the economy and rates are probably going to be slowing projects down, is there anything new on the horizon that is substantial development or should we expect a multi year slowdown of projects? By this I mean something we haven't been discussing already. It just seems lately we've been discussing projects that are already being built or projects that are still at the conceptual/ financing stage but we've known about for a while, of which there are a mind boggling amount. Or is that less to do with the economy more to do with ever approaching winter?
October 28, 20222 yr Author @KFM44107 I'm still hearing a lot of stuff that's percolating but not yet ready for prime-time. It may have slowed down a little, but there's still a lot of interest in investing in Cleveland, including by out-of-town interests. There are many projects that I haven't yet reported on and I keep hearing new ones all of the time. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 28, 20222 yr Glad you thought the food was good. I'm not gay or a lesbian but l hope this project is successful. People need a place to go where they feel welcome.
October 28, 20222 yr Author @cadmen wrong thread "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 28, 20222 yr 54 minutes ago, KJP said: @KFM44107 I'm still hearing a lot of stuff that's percolating but not yet ready for prime-time. It may have slowed down a little, but there's still a lot of interest in investing in Cleveland, including by out-of-town interests. There are many projects that I haven't yet reported on and I keep hearing new ones all of the time. Fantastic. Because I certainly don't want to go back to the 2012 days of one or two projects a year.
October 28, 20222 yr Author 1 hour ago, KFM44107 said: Fantastic. Because I certainly don't want to go back to the 2012 days of one or two projects a year. The scary time was early 2009. Nothing was happening then. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
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