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Is NE Ohio saying, 'Keep out'?

Panelists contend policy stomps down potential growth

 

Wednesday, March 07, 2007

Thomas Ott

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

At a time when Northeast Ohio desperately needs growth, Cleveland and its suburbs do their best to chase away development, speakers at a conference on land use law said Tuesday...

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Why do I get the impression that this panel was more interested in growth in the suburbs and ex-burbs than in the city of Cleveland.  Their use of North Carolina as an example is telling as it is my impression the NC is a sprawl nightmare.

I don't know.  Their comments on density and smart growth are typically urban centered topics, and god knows a place like Beachwood or Strongsville would have no idea what density is.  I think their reference to the Carolinas is a comment on the quickness of approval of projects.

this is just the sort of reason that the region's leaders should be traveling and becnhmarking themselves against the competition - both in the region, and the US. 

 

i'd expect people at city hall to have "top 10" lists of metrics - for instance, approval of building permit - and where Cleveland ranks now, and operated based on how Cleveland will continue to either hold an existing advantage, or make steps toward becoming a top contender in the category.

^^And Carolina's "quick approval" process has not resulted in good urban planning in my opinion.  I was in the Raleigh-Durham area last year for the first time (which is held up as a model of job growth) and could not believe the sprawl.  Research Triangle is one campus after another with trees trees trees.  You could hardly see the buildings.  I imagine once you get to work it is alot like high school.  You stay on campus to eat etc.  Also it was one strip mall after another and building more and more.  Residential was all your standard suburban subdivisions.  The actually urban core of Durham was not much to write home about.

 

The comments above about zoning seem to apply more to the suburbs (like solon which always seems to have zoning issues on the ballot).  don't see much in the way of this in Cleveland.  While I agree Cleveland can simplifiy matters (and the tax structure is an Ohio thing not Cleveland) as far as building permits and the like I still thing this panel was pro-developer.  I have nothing against developers, I just want the ones who are  building the great TODs in DC, not what we have (Like the guy buiding that magnificent house development off of Brainard in Pepper Pike after years of litigation).

This was in the Avenue Distrist newsletter....

 

ZAREMBA JOINS PANEL FOR MARCH 28 EVENT

Nathan Zaremba, president of Zaremba Inc., will join a distinguished panel of Cleveland developers for "Professionals in the City – Cleveland's Re-Development," Wednesday, March 28, 6 p.m., at the House of Blues, 308 Euclid Ave.

 

The event is free and you can register online at cleveland365.com or call (216) 523-BLUE.

 

The panel will discuss the outlook for the city and region, projected timetables and the resurgence of city living. They will also give insight into the re-development of Cleveland and its impact on the region.

 

Panelists include Zaremba, Bob Stark, Doug Price, Steve Strnisha, Vickie Johnson and Ari Maron. The event will be moderated by Channel 5 news reporter Carolina Leid. "Professionals in the City" is a series of quarterly networking events with themed discussions featuring a Q & A with major community stakeholders, designed to engage northeast Ohio's emerging leaders.

^^^The sign-in page asks you to give some information about yourself, including age.  The lowest option for age is 22-25.  They must not want the youth of the city (age 21) and potential downtown home buyer to attend this event…sigh…

 

And, I had to frikin lie about my age and occupation to go see Antonin Scalia two months ago at the Intercontinental…(nothing too bad, just said I was 22 and a law student at Case…not too off since I’m biochemistry.) 

 

shit, I'll still go as long as I'm not keeping others from attending.

Kent names head of design group; will move entire master's program to Cleveland

Posted by Steven Litt March 08, 2007 09:20AM

 

Christopher DiehlSteven Litt

 

Plain Dealer Architecture Critic

 

Kent State University is unleashing a one-two punch to liven up Cleveland's architectural community and to make a greater commitment to the city.

 

Steven Fong, dean of KSU's College of Architecture and Environmental Design, announced Wednesday he has appointed Christopher Diehl, a rising star in the city's design scene, to be director of Kent State's Urban Design Collaborative...

Wasn't Fong talking last year about relocating the entire architecture program here, though -- not just the master's program, which is already largely in Cleveland?

 

Still, good news. It would be cool to have them at Tyler Village, as long as they had a strong street-level presence. That would be a very inspiring building to be in as an architecture student.

 

I also like the idea of the school being on the Flats East Bank, if for no other reason than to ensure that we get some cutting edge architecture down there. (I'm sure the school would want to be involved in the design.)

Wasn't Fong talking last year about relocating the entire architecture program here, though -- not just the master's program, which is already largely in Cleveland?

 

Still, good news. It would be cool to have them at Tyler Village, as long as they had a strong street-level presence. That would be a very inspiring building to be in as an architecture student.

 

I also like the idea of the school being on the Flats East Bank, if for no other reason than to ensure that we get some cutting edge architecture down there. (I'm sure the school would want to be involved in the design.)

 

I'm pretty sure that architecture students are pretty much still in Kent. I hope that they don't locate in University Circle. While it may be a good way to impress prospective students, it won't have as much of an impact in this area.  It would make a much greater impact if located downtown.

 

I'd love to see them build on that surface lot on Prospect (across the street from Winking Lizard and BoneYard).

^Or how about they make it their mission to design and restore the 660? Euclid building (decrepit building with no facade)

^^You're right, it's the urban design master's program that's already entirely in Cleveland. There are only about 8 students in that.

 

FrqntFlyr, love that idea. They'd need to partner with a developer that had supplementary plans for the building though (e.g. housing) -- it's gi-normous.

Great news!  Lots of possibilities!  I, too, hope they stay downtown, but with all this cutting edge architecture and other academic institutions slated for University Circle, that's gotta be a draw too.

 

No mention of a potential location on the CSU campus?  I would think a Euclid Ave building would be killer...

I've heard that the Cleveland Jewish Federation is mulling a move to the eastern burbs (sucks). If they would move, I'd love to see the architecture school rebuild on that site. We need a good anchor in that area that better hugs the street. Also, its nicely located across from Levin.

Hmmm...I'd never heard that.  Interesting...

I would love to see them occupy the empty office building on Prospect next to the Residence Inn. Granted, it's a bland building but it would remove a big chunk of blight from an otherwise nice area.

^I always though that building would be ideal for a residential conversion.

Actually I think the masters program has about ten or twelve students per year, so there are at least 20 students there, plus professors and the other individuals that work for the CUDC

^^You're right, it's the urban design master's program that's already entirely in Cleveland. There are only about 8 students in that.

 

FrqntFlyr, love that idea. They'd need to partner with a developer that had supplementary plans for the building though (e.g. housing) -- it's gi-normous.

 

Actually I think the masters program has about ten or twelve students per year, so there are at least 20 students there, plus professors and the other individuals that work for the CUDC

 

This semester there are 15 Kent State students graduating in the Urban Design program plus two students who are taking this years Studio Capstone (including me).

^ A little off topic, but why is it that builders don't build up to the sidewalk Brownstones anymore?  I seem to always see these wanna be townhomes with little grass patches...the old style seems to be so much more urban?  Maybe this should be a thread on its own...

Hurray for buried utilities.

Its about time the city started following its own laws.

 

 

 

Kamm's project to start in April

Thursday, March 08, 2007

By David Plata

West Side Sun News

 

Construction of the long-delayed Lorain Avenue streetscape renovation in the Kamm's Corners area an $8.1 million project, including installation of an underground power line to Fairview Hospital is to begin next month...

Wait a minute.  $800,000 from the Euclid Vault road project, which is a part of the much cut Euclid Corridor project, is being redirected to another project?  I don't know about that.  If the vault portion came in under budget, maybe that $800,000 should go towards improvements along Euclid Ave, where the money was supposed to go.

^ but the city's portion of ECP is different than RTA and the Feds.  The city agreed to the vault work, repairing/replacing water and sewer lines.  although the city *could* give this money for more improvements, i don't think it is the same fund that RTA has been cutting away at.

Wait a minute.  $800,000 from the Euclid Vault road project, which is a part of the much cut Euclid Corridor project, is being redirected to another project?  I don't know about that.  If the vault portion came in under budget, maybe that $800,000 should go towards improvements along Euclid Ave, where the money was supposed to go.

 

Maybe cleveland has a budget line for this type of thing, and they allocated $800k to the ECP, however, if the total amount of the allocation is not used, the balance can be reallocated elsewhere, which I am glad to see, as I hate those overhead wires!

round two of 'Believe in Cleveland'.  much improved.  thoughts?

 

fyi - the original advert was a red background (not sure what happened in the scan process)  I spied this on the last page of last Thursday's (03.08) Metro section.

About the KSU Architecture School moving up here - where would they go near University Circle?  I just don't know of the projects/availability of space there.  Seems like a space in Midtown or St Clair/Superior would work better.

 

 

I've heard that they are looking at the property around the old Euclid Tavern (E118th & Euclid Avenue).  It would be across from the new MVRDV addition to CIA, and just down the street from FOA's new MOCA building.

I personally think they are needed downtown...

 

And I don't like that Cleveland ad. Some magazine I've never heard of isn't going to convince people that this area is so great. Oh well. We should pull our pennies and do our own ads.

^sounds like a "Marketing the City" thread topic.

 

I'm happy to hear that Kamm's is getting to work on the utility line project, but yeah, interesting about the $800k.  Any other such projects moving through the pipeline (other than Gordon Square)?

I've heard that they are looking at the property around the old Euclid Tavern (E118th & Euclid Avenue).  It would be across from the new MVRDV addition to CIA, and just down the street from FOA's new MOCA building.

 

Sounds like they might be looking at the Maximum Independent Living site. Its a 4-story non-descript red brick building that UCI/CWRU is looking to demo. I believe its a non-profit care center for seriously disabled folk. They are pretty much broke and need to make over a million dollars in upgrades to come up to code. They had asked UCI to help them look for a new site. At that point, Case saw the opportunity to add them to the Uptown project. (that's what I had heard about a year ago).

anyone know anything about a large new condo development going in slavic village???....jus heard something thru the grapevine...wondering if anyone had anything on this.

And what exactly did you hear?  You know you can't post something like here that without giving us the goodies.

a friend of mine who manages a restaurant downtown was chatting with a police officer who works the slavic village area says if your looking to invest in property (he knows thats something were into) to buy in slavic village around St. Stans. says a large condo-townhome project was in the works somewhere in the direct area of the church. thats all i got thru the grapevine.

Maybe it is The Cloisters.  Nice condos from what I understand.

It's not the Cloisters.  It's a much larger site.  Having seen the site plans a while ago, I remember it being across the street from the Third Federal Savings HQ.  Looking at Google maps, it looks to be between Union and Broadway, west of E. 71.  This location would put it within a stone's throw of St. Stan's.  I'm blanking on the name, but recall that there are connections to the towpath or at least a connecting trail.

Does it have anything to do with Morgana Run?

Yes, I believe Morgan Run is correct.  Does this map accurately represent the proposed site of the ReDev?

Editors bit in todays Crains:

 

Role reversal       

Blog entry: March 12, 2007, 10:21 am    |    Author: SCOTT SUTTELL

 

Some members of the woe-is-Cleveland crowd are fond of pointing to Pittsburgh as a place where life is much better than here. So it’s striking to see a couple stories over the weekend from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette looking at what that city can learn from good things happening in Cleveland...

 

Isn't the CMA often considered one of Cleveland's greatest assets? I'm not sure why anyone in Pittsburgh would be surprised by that. The Monet show is pretty cool.

 

Same with the orchestra.. Both world-class establishments IMO.

CMA has the second largest endowment of any art museum in the country. Its kind of hard to compete.

WOW. Did not know that.

CMA has the second largest endowment of any art museum in the country. Its kind of hard to compete.

 

I thought it was the second largest in the world? The endowment is estimated to be between 650-800 million.  If I remember correctly the only museum with more is the Louvre.

 

Cleveland's cultural institutions are the one thing that Cleveland can definitely say are world class and world reknown.

 

Cleveland's cultural institutions are the one thing that Cleveland can definitely say are world class and world reknown.

 

but its hard to compete with the Windsor Ballet.

HA!

I don't know about the CMA having the second largest endowment.  While it large, and without doing any research on the point, I would imagine the Met and Getty have larger endowments.  And that is just off the top of my head.

^Houston has the largest endowment. Cleveland has the second largest.

okay stop.

 

does anyone have a semi-reasonable bona fide compilation link?

Dunno, but I think this is the article the Crain's editors were talking about: Link

 

*EDIT: And here is one from Steven Litt verifying MyTwoSense's estimate: Link

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