East 9th.  If someone tried to put a chipotle in the E. 6th building I'd inflict bodily harm upon them.

East 9th.  If someone tried to put a chipotle in the E. 6th building I'd inflict bodily harm upon them.

 

I was thinking the same thing, but wanted to be sure you meant East Ninth.  the East six building is just amazing.  A PH in that building would make me seriously consider abandoning my beloved shaker square pad.

If you owned a chipotle in the bottom floor of that building on that intersection, it would be the equivalent to owning a money printing press.  I'm still amazed no one has figured that out.

 

which building East Ninth or East Six.  If East Ninth than thats possible a nice open restaurant would be fab.

 

There used to be a pizza shop in the corner space at 9th and superior maybe 3 years ago.

If you owned a chipotle in the bottom floor of that building on that intersection, it would be the equivalent to owning a money printing press. I'm still amazed no one has figured that out.

 

which building East Ninth or East Six. If East Ninth than thats possible a nice open restaurant would be fab.

 

There used to be a pizza shop in the corner space at 9th and superior maybe 3 years ago.

 

It's still there........ minus the pizza and employees.

That the 1717 East 9th Building (aka East Ohio Gas). It's about 20% vacant but was bought about a year ago by a firm that had planned to renovate it.

 

 

That dude's got his Halloween mask on early. 

If you owned a chipotle in the bottom floor of that building on that intersection, it would be the equivalent to owning a money printing press. I'm still amazed no one has figured that out.

 

which building East Ninth or East Six. If East Ninth than thats possible a nice open restaurant would be fab.

 

There used to be a pizza shop in the corner space at 9th and superior maybe 3 years ago.

 

It's still there........ minus the pizza and employees.

 

this is true

If you owned a chipotle in the bottom floor of that building on that intersection, it would be the equivalent to owning a money printing press.  I'm still amazed no one has figured that out.

 

And as luck would have it, it seems that Chipotle is rather open to such suggestions: http://www.chipotle.com/#flash/development

 

It's a shame they don't franchise, because I think we could scrounge up enough support to open up probably yesterday our own little UO Chipotle downtown.

If you owned a chipotle in the bottom floor of that building on that intersection, it would be the equivalent to owning a money printing press. I'm still amazed no one has figured that out.

 

And as luck would have it, it seems that Chipotle is rather open to such suggestions: http://www.chipotle.com/#flash/development

 

It's a shame they don't franchise, because I think we could scrounge up enough support to open up probably yesterday our own little UO Chipotle downtown.

 

Anyone else up for a group spamming of the chipotle comment website?  :-D

If you owned a chipotle in the bottom floor of that building on that intersection, it would be the equivalent to owning a money printing press. I'm still amazed no one has figured that out.

 

And as luck would have it, it seems that Chipotle is rather open to such suggestions: http://www.chipotle.com/#flash/development

 

It's a shame they don't franchise, because I think we could scrounge up enough support to open up probably yesterday our own little UO Chipotle downtown.

 

Anyone else up for a group spamming of the chipotle comment website? :-D

 

Count me in, seeing that i just finished my burrito and am craving another one.

Well if I, join and do this, will you guys spam Barney's??  :wink:

Well if I, join and do this, will you guys spam Barney's?? :wink:

 

But I can't afford Barney's :(

Well if I, join and do this, will you guys spam Barney's??  :wink:

 

But I can't afford Barney's :(

 

Then you get no support from MTS for chipotle!  :speech:

*Humph*

*Humph*

*Humph*

 

Lol, well, let's wrap this up before we annoy the mods.  Everyone who feels so inclined comment to chipotle that there is valuable vacant space waiting for them!

But I can't afford Barney's :(

 

ACTually, I picked up a pair of Paul Smith pug cufflinks at Barneys for $50.00 for my partner - not dirt-cheap, but not astronomical either. :-)

I have a friend that has lobbied for a Chipotle in Erie, PA for 5 years and he has had no luck.  He and a friend actually drive to Mentor to get a burrito once or twice a month.  Ridiculous.

Well not to demean Erie, but I think we may have a little bit more compelling of a case for a Chipotle in Downtown Cleveland than they do.  I mean, we have more people that work in DT Cleveland alone than live in all of Erie. 

 

So yeah, let's get a campaign going...or at least a blitz of comments on their website.  But I guess we should settle on a location first.  I think the East Ohio Building on E.9th sounds pretty good, but any other suggestions?

(Found this on the NOACA website .. does anyone know more about the awards in bold below?)

 

http://www.noaca.org/oct08rel.html

 

NOACA Board Awards Nearly $870,000 for Transportation Planning Studies

 

On Friday, October 10, the Governing Board of the Northeast Ohio Areawide Coordinating Agency (NOACA) awarded $869,600 for 15 transportation planning studies in Cuyahoga, Lake, and Medina counties. The awards are up to $75,000 each and are part of NOACA’s Transportation for Livable Communities Initiative (TLCI) to strengthen neighborhoods and make them more “livable” by enhancing their quality of life.

 

“NOACA has always promoted planning, so the Board set aside funds specifically for transportation planning studies that we hope will eventually result in neighborhood development projects,” says NOACA Governing Board President and Geauga County Commissioner Mary E. Samide. “When projects are planned well from the start, they’re more likely to be developed and implemented faster and more smoothly. The ultimate goal is make Northeast Ohio a more viable place to live and work.”

 

Recipients of the awards include:

*Broadview Heights: $56,000 for the Valley Parkway Multipurpose Trail Connection

*Brunswick: $55,000 for the Brunswick Citywide Bicycle Route Master Plan

*Cleveland (four awards): $55,000 for the Erie/Sumner-Gateway/Playhouse Square Neighborhood Infrastructure Plan; $75,000 for the Superior Avenue Community Improvement Plan; $75,000 for the Tremont Pedestrian and Bicycle Linkages; and $55,000 for the Uptown Infrastructure Planning at University Circle

*Cleveland Metroparks: $50,000 for the Warner Road-Garfield Boulevard Connector and Trailhead Design

*East Cleveland: $75,000 for Village Park-Hayden Avenue Streetscape Improvements

*Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority: $75,000 for the East 116th Street Station Area Development Plan

*Maple Heights: $55,000 for a Streetscape Improvement Plan

*Medina: $48,000 for the Champion Creek-Smith Road Development District

*Painesville: $75,000 for the Painesville Transportation and Streetscape Project

*Parma: $49,600 for the Parma-Avon Juniper Multipurpose Path

*Shaker Heights: $70,000 for the Warrensville/Van Aken Intermodal Program Plan

*Wadsworth: $40,000 for the Multi-Modal Transportation Plan

 

This is the fourth year NOACA has offered TLCI awards. NOACA awarded $1 million for 20 studies in 2005, $1 million for 16 studies in 2006 and nearly $750,000 for 12 studies in 2007.

 

“Some of the studies from prior years’ awards have just been completed,” says NOACA Executive Director Howard R. Maier. “It is exciting to see their progress, and we’re looking forward to the day when they move into the development, design and implementation stages.”

 

In addition to awarding TLCI funds, the Governing Board approved revisions to NOACA’s Regional Transportation Investment Policy. The revisions improve the application process, coordination with project sponsors and the policy linkage to the transportation goals. They also place additional emphasis on reinvestment in urban core communities and include new earmark policies and requirements as well as new policies for environmental planning, economic development and aesthetics.

 

For more information, call Gayle L. Godek, Communications Specialist, at 216-241-2414, ext. 283; or Steve Jones, Associate Director of Divisional Services, at ext. 352.

Well not to demean Erie, but I think we may have a little bit more compelling of a case for a Chipotle in Downtown Cleveland than they do.  I mean, we have more people that work in DT Cleveland alone than live in all of Erie. 

 

So yeah, let's get a campaign going...or at least a blitz of comments on their website.  But I guess we should settle on a location first.  I think the East Ohio Building on E.9th sounds pretty good, but any other suggestions?

 

In no particular order:

 

1)  Public square, next to Cadillac Ranch

 

2)  1211 St. Clair Avenue District loft bldg

 

3)  Gordon Square

 

4)  Euclid Ave across from CSU

 

5)  less rice

 

6)  downtown Old Brooklyn

 

7)  Broadway/55th

 

8)  quit charging for guacamole (apparently "eight parenthesis" = smiley man)

 

9)  W25th Ohio City

 

10)  when I buy salsa, fill the d@mn thing up

 

11)  St. Clair 55th-79th

 

12)  Clark Ave

 

13)  E185

 

14)  Tower City food court

 

15)  Galleria food court

 

16)  any arcade

 

17)  Lorain Station

 

18)  West Park

 

19)  Kinsman/Union

 

Bernie was 19

 

 

Stating the inevitable..... :(

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/10/credit_crunch_imperils_clevela.html

 

Credit crunch imperils Cleveland's commercial development projects

 

 

There's no denying it's a tough market to get financing right now... we'll just have to see how things shake out.

 

On a lighter note, windows went in on the renovation of 1301 Prospect Place yesterday, also known as the future Headquarters of Global Exeter.

Keep it comin' off, keep it...

 

 

Comin' off!

:cry:

happy tears.

Then it'll be time to light 'er up again!  Hopefully in time for Christmas :-D.  I've missed the red and green the past few years.....

Not for about another 2 years doc broc

:cry:

tears of sadness.

Not for about another 2 years doc broc

:cry:

tears of sadness.

 

I just mean maybe they'll be able to light up a little more than just the tip top like it is right now.....  I know I'll have to wait for the whole building :'(

someone should take the pics of the terminal tower's restoration in various stages of completion set to some 70's porn music..right now though she is just teasing us with some PG13 material

someone should take the pics of the terminal tower's restoration in various stages of completion set to some 70's porn music..right now though she is just teasing us with some PG13 material

 

HAHAHA .. hilarious! :)

I know a lot of you on here love Chipotle so I thought I'd post this

 

www.goodmanrealestate.com

GOODMAN REAL ESTATE SERVICES GROUP COMPLETES CHIPOTLE DEALS IN ELYRIA AND HUDSON, OHIO

Goodman Real Estate Services Group LLC of Lyndhurst, Ohio, exclusively represented Chipotle Mexican Grill in their leases at, Hudson Station in Hudson, Ohio and Midway Crossing in Elyria, Ohio.

Chipotle opened its first store in 1993 in Denver, Colorado; they now have 775 restaurants and compete in a category of dining now called "fast-casual," the fastest growing segment of the restaurant industry. The Hudson and Elyria Chipotle locations will be the 35th and 36th restaurants to open in Northeast Ohio.

Richard Edelman, partner of Goodman Real Estate Services Group LLC, exclusively represents Chipotle Mexican Grill in Northeast Ohio.

For more information on Chipotle, please refer to their website www.chipotle.com

Goodman Real Estate Services Group specializes in retail real estate representing shopping center properties for lease, land for sale, and companies seeking to lease, purchase or sell real estate.

Partnership to revitalize 6 Cleveland neighborhoods hit by foreclosures

Posted by Mark Gillispie/Plain Dealer Reporter October 17, 2008 23:30PM

Categories: Neighborhoods, Real Time News

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/10/partnership_to_revitalize_6_cl.html

 

An extensive public and private partnership will soon launch a $20 million, three-year effort aimed at revitalizing sections of six Cleveland neighborhoods damaged by the foreclosure crisis...

 

 

Goodman Real Estate Services Group LLC of Lyndhurst, Ohio, exclusively represented Chipotle Mexican Grill in their leases at, Hudson Station in Hudson, Ohio and Midway Crossing in Elyria, Ohio.

 

I'm sorry, but JESUS H!  If the MIDWAY MALL area of ELYRIA can get a Chipotle, Downtown Cleveland should have had theirs, oh, 35 or so years ago!  Seriously, here's another contact form, this time for Goodman.  It seems that petitioning them would be even more effective than going to Chipotle corporate.  http://www.goodmanrealestate.com/contactus.asp

 

327, you're list was really thorough, and hilarious.  I'll throw out 515 Euclid garage as a suggested location.  As great as Public Square would be, 515 would be a little more centrally located for the entire downtown working population, and it already kinda has the modern, Chipotle aesthetic.  Any other thoughts?

If you owned a chipotle in the bottom floor of that building on that intersection, it would be the equivalent to owning a money printing press.  I'm still amazed no one has figured that out.

Go stand on that corner for a minute.  It smells of urine, as do all of the entrances to the building.  There are a bunch of steam manholes along Superior making it one of the favorite places for the homeless to hang out.  This is one of the LAST places I would ever open a retail chain (the problems could be solved if the owner really cared, cleaned his building/sidewalks, etc. but such is not the case).  Creepy fluid stains all over the sidewalks plus smells that make your stomach queasy aren't a good appetizer to a burrito or any other type of food.  Possibly a better location for Chipotle is the lone vacant retail spot in the Amtrust building on E9th just across Walnut from this EOG building.

Go stand on that corner for a minute.  It smells of urine, as do all of the entrances to the building.  There are a bunch of steam manholes along Superior making it one of the favorite places for the homeless to hang out.  This is one of the LAST places I would ever open a retail chain (the problems could be solved if the owner really cared, cleaned his building/sidewalks, etc. but such is not the case).  Creepy fluid stains all over the sidewalks plus smells that make your stomach queasy aren't a good appetizer to a burrito or any other type of food.  Possibly a better location for Chipotle is the lone vacant retail spot in the Amtrust building on E9th just across Walnut from this EOG building.

Pete I think you are missing the bigger picture.

 

Your summation is like a person who doesn't buy a house because they cannot see past the current owners style, decor and belongings.

 

The East Ohio Gas building is virtually empty.  Therefore, it's a place where homeless would gather.  If the building was occupied, even if it was just the ground level, there would be traffic - to and from - and homeless wouldn't hang out there, so your argument for saying its the last building to use, holds no weight.

If you owned a chipotle in the bottom floor of that building on that intersection, it would be the equivalent to owning a money printing press. I'm still amazed no one has figured that out.

Possibly a better location for Chipotle is the lone vacant retail spot in the Amtrust building on E9th just across Walnut from this EOG building.

 

Neither one of these locations would support much night buisness.  Not quite close enough to residential or bars.  Maybe they could if the East Ohio building became apartments.  If they put a lot of one-bedrooms in it, which it looks like a really good candidate for, it would fill up quickly.  A quick injection of one-bedrooms would help everything downtown. 

I'll throw out 515 Euclid garage as a suggested location.  As great as Public Square would be, 515 would be a little more centrally located for the entire downtown working population, and it already kinda has the modern, Chipotle aesthetic.  Any other thoughts?

 

I second your 515 Euclid garage suggestion for a downtown Chipotle.  That is too nice a parking garage to leave vacant!

Pete I think you are missing the bigger picture.

 

Your summation is like a person who doesn't buy a house because they cannot see past the current owners style, decor and belongings.

The East Ohio Gas building is virtually empty. Therefore, it's a place where homeless would gather. If the building was occupied, even if it was just the ground level, there would be traffic - to and from - and homeless wouldn't hang out there, so your argument for saying its the last building to use, holds no weight.

My point is that I would not rent from a slumlord and expect that they are somehow going to change their ways.  If the owner showed an effort to clean up their property, then they might be worth doing business with.  As they conduct themselves right now, I would not do business with them.  Since this building has one of the highest vacancy rates in the CBD, most companies agree and have therefore chosen to rent space from one of the dozens of more reputable landlords downtown.  I admire your vision MTS, and if the landlord conducted their business in a more professional manner this could be a fine spot for a restaurant or other first floor retail. 

 

Now, if I were to own this building (and attached garage with a footprint 2x the tower) I would be exploring all options to convert this building to residential use.  The building needs a new life and a new function.  Other low occupancy buildings (Rockefeller, Galleria) are treated with far greater respect and kept clean, so these guys could do it too.  One of the reasons for the Downtown Cleveland Alliance is its' "Clean" program.  These guys powerwash sidewalks, clean trash, etc. that most landlords do on their own.  But the downtown property owners were willing to charge themselves an additional fee to pay for providing these services around other buildings (like East Ohio) that don't do these things and have a negative impact on the greater community.  Someday EOG will be worth investing in from a tenant's perspective, but it needs some investment, or at least commitment to investment, from the landlord first.

 

 

well in my career it's all about "vision".

 

I don't think the current state of the building is an indication of what type of landlord they owners of the building are.  I'm not in real estate, but I have heard of "no maintence" situations where a building owner, does little maintaince on the building to "force" tennants out, then market the building for sale.

 

I've often sensed that was the case for this building.  I've often thought this is the perfect building for a hotel.

If East Ohio Gas building is empty, Then where are the offices of Dominion East Ohio Gas Co.

So .. no one has anything to say about the housing plan Mayor Jackson proposed?

If East Ohio Gas building is empty, Then where are the offices of Dominion East Ohio Gas Co.

East 55 near St. Clair.

So .. no one has anything to say about the housing plan Mayor Jackson proposed?

 

Uhh, what *should* we say, aside from "Woohoo! More fixed up homes!" :?

So .. no one has anything to say about the housing plan Mayor Jackson proposed?

 

Uhh, what *should* we say, aside from "Woohoo! More fixed up homes!" :?

 

I dunno. I just thought it was missed.

 

And more interesting than this hypothetical Chipotle discussion. LOL.

On the first count, I guess it's one of those things where yes, everyone's probably elated but there's not much to add to it.

 

On the second point - a-fricking-men. Big, cheap burritos - that'll revitalize downtown!!! :-p

On the first count, I guess it's one of those things where yes, everyone's probably elated but there's not much to add to it.

 

On the second point - a-fricking-men. Big, cheap burritos - that'll revitalize downtown!!! :-p

 

Hahahahaha.

 

Hey, I love Chipotle as much as the next person, so I'm all for it.

 

I was just excited about the housing program that they announced, and I was hoping other people would be more vocal. Anyway. :)

It's Sunday - only the very bored and lonely forumers post on Sunday's

It's Sunday - only the very bored and lonely forumers post on Sunday's

 

I'd like to think that I'm in gooooooood company, then. :)

It's Sunday - only the very bored and lonely forumers post on Sunday's

"I was just excited about the housing program that they announced, and I was hoping other people would be more vocal."

 

As a resident of one of the target areas, it's good to hear - but I'll wait for the details. Any improvement is good news, obviously but my level of excitement might depend on if they fix up houses a mile away or right next door. :-)

 

Am I the only person who HASN'T ever been to a Chipotle?

"I was just excited about the housing program that they announced, and I was hoping other people would be more vocal."

 

As a resident of one of the target areas, it's good to hear - but I'll wait for the details. Any improvement is good news, obviously but my level of excitement might depend on if they fix up houses a mile away or right next door. :-)

 

Am I the only person who HASN'T ever been to a Chipotle?

 

No dear, you're not alone.  I've never eaten there.