April 6, 200916 yr Commodore's Club Marina in Cleveland will close June 1 Posted by Michelle Jarboe/Plain Dealer Reporter April 03, 2009 16:52PM Categories: Economy, Real Time News
April 6, 200916 yr I think it would just be an odd location to invest so much money in... particuarly if it's right in the path of the potential (probable) port relocation. plus other than amazing views, that just seems like such a cruddy and isolated area to live in. Tell that to the folks at Quay 55. But I think the building is going to come down to make way for rail spurs or spin-off port development. I disagree, quay 55 is totally different. Quay 55 is ON the lake. The HoJo has views of the lake but is sandwhiched between a highway and a rail line, and surrounded by industrial buildings, save channel 3.
April 6, 200916 yr Author It's still isolated. BTW, you mean Channel 8. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 15, 200916 yr Not sure where to put this, but a friend of mine who works in the East Ohio Building, 1717 East 9th, said the owner has told his office they have to move out in the near future. The building is emptying out completely. Occupancy is very low, so not sure if the owner just wants to shut it down completely to save on costs or if re-development plans are in the works. 21 floors and over 250,000 sq feet. Not very nice on the inside though (at least what I have seen of it). http://www.loopnet.com/xNet/LoopLink/Profile/Profile.aspx?LL=true&LID=14076412&STID=grubb
April 15, 200916 yr Not sure where to put this, but a friend of mine who works in the East Ohio Building, 1717 East 9th, said the owner has told his office they have to move out in the near future. The building is emptying out completely. Occupancy is very low, so not sure if the owner just wants to shut it down completely to save on costs or if re-development plans are in the works. 21 floors and over 250,000 sq feet. Not very nice on the inside though (at least what I have seen of it). http://www.loopnet.com/xNet/LoopLink/Profile/Profile.aspx?LL=true&LID=14076412&STID=grubb I had relative at the EOHC. That building is crap on the inside. However, it would make an amazing hotel redevelopment.
April 15, 200916 yr Not sure where to put this, but a friend of mine who works in the East Ohio Building, 1717 East 9th, said the owner has told his office they have to move out in the near future. The building is emptying out completely. Occupancy is very low, so not sure if the owner just wants to shut it down completely to save on costs or if re-development plans are in the works. 21 floors and over 250,000 sq feet. Not very nice on the inside though (at least what I have seen of it). http://www.loopnet.com/xNet/LoopLink/Profile/Profile.aspx?LL=true&LID=14076412&STID=grubb Straight from your link: Property Description: 24 hrs 7 day access & security. Two(2) Conference Centers, Complete Renovation planned, including new exterior, Ample parking is available in the atached 540 space covered garage. 10,035 sq ft of Retail also available 6,918 sq ft basement storage.
April 15, 200916 yr I wonder what they mean by new exterior. A friend of mine works there too. There can't be more than a couple firms left in it.
April 15, 200916 yr While I was browsing office listings I came across the Ontario Point proposal. Looks like they have a 60 space surface lot as part of the proposal. From the square footage listed it appears to be a 7 or 8 story building. Anyone else have more information on this?
April 15, 200916 yr No, not if you're talking about the Marathon, which sits at the top of the hill before you go down Commercial(?). This is the strip of land where all the newscasters set up shop when reporting "live from the Jake."
April 15, 200916 yr Palijandro, there used to be a gas station (a Shell, if I recall correctly) on that spit of land. Punch is correct.
April 15, 200916 yr Palijandro, there used to be a gas station (a Shell, if I recall correctly) on that spit of land. Punch is correct. You are correct.
April 16, 200916 yr "Whoever" owns that property has been trying to "develop" it for years. In the past has even gone as far as to put up a fancy sign with a rendering. Was actually approached by the guy informally a couple of years ago to locate my business there.
April 16, 200916 yr Yeah .. I remember that little plot up for development for the past 10 years or so.
April 16, 200916 yr It's enough room for a creative architect to manage to build a 500 ft+ skyscraper :D
April 19, 200916 yr Very Interesting news. We'll have to keep an eye on this: NASA Building Renewable Hydrogen Station in Cleveland Posted by EcoFriendly Apr 17 The Glenn Research division of NASA has decided to build and install a hydrogen refueling station based on renewable energy in downtown Cleveland. The hydrogen fueling station will use water and wind from Lake Erie to create the hydrogen. Solar power will also be used. The water from Lake Erie will be split into hydrogen and oxygen using a high tech, high-capacity customized electrolyzer. A wind turbine will capture the blustery Lake Erie winds and use this to electrolyze the Lake Erie water. The hydrogen fueling station will be located at the Great Lakes Science Center in downtown Cleveland on the edge of Lake Erie. The science center already uses wind and solar power for itself and will tap into this to power the hydrogen fueling station as well. The hydrogen from the station will be used as a demonstration project to power a fuel cell bus. Another purpose of this project is to create green jobs for the citizens of Ohio, which has been hit hard by the manufacturing downturn over the past couple of years. NASA has a long history of using hydrogen as fuel for propellant in its rockets. But, NASA is also known for powering onboard systems for astronauts using hydrogen fuel cells as well, even using the resulting H2O for drinking water. It’s good to see the high-flying NASA coming back to Earth and getting grounded in their community in regard to hydrogen fuel. This brings the future into the now and states that hydrogen isn’t just for astronauts anymore, it’s for common people driving their everyday cars to and from work and life. http://www.ecofriendlymag.com/sustainable-transporation-and-alternative-fuel/nasa-building-renewable-hydrogen-station-in-cleveland/
April 19, 200916 yr ^^Here's a better and more indepth article from the news above: http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=27988 NASA Leads Team in Establishing a Renewable Hydrogen Fueling Station PRESS RELEASE Date Released: Thursday, April 16, 2009 Source: Glenn Research Center NASA's Glenn Research Center is leading a team of industry and university partners in demonstrating a prototype of a commercial hydrogen fueling station that uses wind and solar power to produce hydrogen from water. This initial installation will produce hydrogen from Lake Erie water to fuel a mass transit bus powered by fuel cells. The demonstration, featuring a unique, high-capacity electrolyzer that separates water into its elemental components of hydrogen and oxygen, is part of an economic development program in the Cleveland area. Local workers will design and build the electrolyzer using commercially available components. The Glenn-led collaboration will customize the electrolyzer for the prototype fueling station, and design the circuitry needed to use renewable energy sources to power the electrolyzer and fueling station. "The project is more than a key technology demonstration," said project team member Valerie Lyons, chief of Glenn's Power and In-Space Propulsion Division. "It will be a great educational tool for the public and will serve as a catalyst to inspire new ideas and initiatives that can generate many new jobs and manufacturing opportunities in Ohio." The hydrogen fueling station will be located in downtown Cleveland at the Great Lakes Science Center on the south shore of Lake Erie, where it can be powered from the science center's existing wind and solar power sources. The fueling station will generate hydrogen from Lake Erie water for use in a Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority bus powered by fuel cells. The transit authority will operate the bus in revenue service. Cleveland State University's Nance College of Business Administration will work alongside the collaborators to develop a business template for the electrolyzer and station. The designs for both will be treated as intellectual property and placed in a trust benefiting Ohio citizens. The build-up of the electrolyzer, a major step toward the reality of the fueling station, is funded by the Ohio Aerospace Institute through a $310,000 grant from The Cleveland Foundation. The initial funding is $110,000, with an additional $200,000 to be provided for milestone progress. The goals of the economic development program include engaging Ohio's supply chain manufacturers and retraining a skilled work force for clean energy jobs. The project will demonstrate the viability of clean energy systems for transportation and stationary power and boost regional economic development. Other collaborators include Hydrogen and Fuel Cell Consultants of Brecksville, Ohio; the Center for Automotive Research and Technology Management at Ohio State University in Columbus, Ohio; Parker Hannifin of Cleveland; Sierra Lobo of Milan, Ohio; Hamilton Sundstrand of Windsor Locks, Conn.; the University of Toledo; and the Earth Day Coalition of Cleveland. For information about NASA's Glenn Research Center, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/glenn
April 26, 200916 yr Not sure where to put this, but a friend of mine who works in the East Ohio Building, 1717 East 9th, said the owner has told his office they have to move out in the near future. The building is emptying out completely. Occupancy is very low, so not sure if the owner just wants to shut it down completely to save on costs or if re-development plans are in the works. 21 floors and over 250,000 sq feet. Not very nice on the inside though (at least what I have seen of it). http://www.loopnet.com/xNet/LoopLink/Profile/Profile.aspx?LL=true&LID=14076412&STID=grubb Straight from your link: Property Description: 24 hrs 7 day access & security. Two(2) Conference Centers, Complete Renovation planned, including new exterior, Ample parking is available in the atached 540 space covered garage. 10,035 sq ft of Retail also available 6,918 sq ft basement storage. For whatever it's worth, I was in the 1717 East 9th St building on Friday, and asked the security guard if he knew anything about the future of the building. He told me a large tenant that occupied the 21st floor (I think) moved out, and it just became too expensive to keep the building open. I asked the security guard if he has heard the building is going to be renovated. He said he doesn't think anyone knows the answer to that question right now.
April 28, 200916 yr I'm not sure its coming down. Maybe I'm being delusionally optimistic, but the current owners paid $2.5 million for it just a couple years ago, (County Auditor's website) and as recently as November they were planning on trying to fix it up. (I knew there was a thread about this somewhere.) (Is delusionally a word?) It looks like maybe I was wrong to be optimistic. There's a crane on the property now, and it looks like the restaurant on the north side of the ground floor is gone. I think our eyesore by the lakeshore will be gone shortly. (I'm referring to the old HoJo on the marginal by E 55th.)
April 28, 200916 yr The law firm Cavitch Familo was apparently the last tenant in the building. I'm told they moved out because the new owner wasn't doing anything to keep the building up and has no plans whatsoever to renovate the building. The problem with the building attracting tenants is that the floorplan is just too small, and everything is outdated.
April 28, 200916 yr Author Could you guys quote previous messages you're replying to, or mention the buildings you're talking about in your messages? In a general thread like this one, it's difficult to follow which buildings/projects are which if you don't reference them in some way. Thanks! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 28, 200916 yr Regarding the 1717 E 9th St Building (East Ohio Gas Building), if I recall correctly, that building was sold just a couple years ago. The new owner was supposed to renovate the building into Class A office space. Does anyone else remember this? What a shame to have another vacant building on 9th Street (along with the Ameritrust Tower).
April 28, 200916 yr Wow... This is actually pretty big news. http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2009/04/mitchell_schneiders_79th_stree.html Mitchell Schneider's 79th Street Associates LLC gets $9.7 million loan from the Ohio Development Financing Advisory Council approved by Tom Breckenridge/Plain Dealer Reporter Monday April 27, 2009, 9:44 PM CLEVELAND — The developer responsible for Legacy Village and Steelyard Commons wants to build a business park linked to multiple modes of transportation on Cleveland's East Side. Mitchell Schneider's 79th Street Associates LLC won approval of a $9.7 million loan Monday from the Ohio Development Financing Advisory Council. The loan must be approved by the state Controlling Board. The "logistics and distribution" financing flows from Ohio's $1.57 billion job-stimulus plan, a chunk of which is devoted to improved movement of goods by roads, rail, water and air...
April 28, 200916 yr It is a rager large complex right on the rail line south of Gordon Park http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=41.532772,-81.634641&spn=0.011581,0.019226&t=h&z=16
April 28, 200916 yr Wonder what kind of businesses he's looking to attract here .. sounds like light industrial, probably?
April 28, 200916 yr I just received an email about this from James. Feel free to contact him w/questions. There's a lot of excitement about this project. James Amendola Industrial Services Coordinator St. Clair Superior Development Corporation 4205 St. Clair Avenue Cleveland, OH 44103 [email protected] (p) 216-881-0644 (f) 216-881-1142
April 28, 200916 yr It's great to see a developer put money into the neighborhoods, no question that this will benefit the surrounding area. Great to see! I believe one of the buildings in the complex was converted to offices (which will probably be the structure which isn't scrapped). Hope some renderings show up soon!
April 28, 200916 yr The complex is massive. There is a bunch of crappy tired non descript warehouses towards the E.72nd side, I'd assume / hope that is what they are referring to for demolition. The brick buildings towards E.79th are actually quite interesting and would be a shame to lose. I'd love to know how much of this money is going just towards environmental clean up... just from driving by... looks like there is an awful lot to do.
April 28, 200916 yr Regarding the 1717 E 9th St Building (East Ohio Gas Building), if I recall correctly, that building was sold just a couple years ago. The new owner was supposed to renovate the building into Class A office space. Does anyone else remember this? What a shame to have another vacant building on 9th Street (along with the Ameritrust Tower). I found this on Wikipedia (early 2007 has obviously come and gone): On November 22, 2006, the largely vacant building was bought by New York City-based Sovereign Partners, LLC for around $12 million. The buying group plans on making certain improvements to the building, with the details to be announced in early 2007. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Ohio_Building
April 28, 200916 yr Regarding the East Ohio building, see the Crain's article posted in the Downtown Cleveland Office News thread: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,4266.msg141614/topicseen.html#msg141614
April 29, 200916 yr Anyone know what the building going up between the old AAA building and Fox 8 building is going to be??
April 29, 200916 yr I think you are referring to the old howard johnsons which is coming down, not up.
April 29, 200916 yr I think you are referring to the old howard johnsons which is coming down, not up. No, there is new construction going up between fox 8 and AAA
April 29, 200916 yr I think you are referring to the old howard johnsons which is coming down, not up. Um, no. There's a new building going up between the old AAA building and Fox 8 building. The HoJo is on the other side of Fox 8. I have no idea what it is, but considering the proximity to the AAA building, I'm guessing its an addition to it. There doesn't seem to be enough room between those buildings for a separate plot of land. See this map, the blue dot is the building coming down and the red one is the new construction. http://tinyurl.com/cwvav7
April 29, 200916 yr weird. no idea. And yes, the reason I first thought he meant the hojo is because I simply didn't think there could possibly be room there.
April 29, 200916 yr I think you are referring to the old howard johnsons which is coming down, not up. No, there is new construction going up between fox 8 and AAA yes, it appears attached to horizon. steel framing is up now.
April 29, 200916 yr Saw this on Westlake Reed Leskosky's website. Have no idea of the history behind it or if it's just spec work by them. Anyone know? SUPERIOR AVENUE OFFICE TOWER Westlake Reed Leskosky's concept design for a speculative office building in downtown Cleveland projects a highly memorable image. Located at a key transition point between Public Square and the Warehouse District, the canted form has dynamic visibility as a terminus to Euclid and Superior Avenues. Designed for LEED Gold certification, the structure reduces heat gain by self-shading the south façade. Horizontal blades on heat-activated sensors shield the east and west façades, which are most susceptible to heat gain and energy consumption. The roof of the podium is envisioned as a habitable living roof, which responds to environmental concerns, provides a programmable space for respite, and assures desirable views for all staff. Common spaces, including dining and meeting rooms, are located on the 9th floor to take advantage of this amenity. http://www.vwrl.com/projects/workplace/SUPERIOR%20AVENUE%20OFFICE%20TOWER.htm
April 29, 200916 yr I think you are referring to the old howard johnsons which is coming down, not up. No, there is new construction going up between fox 8 and AAA yes, it appears attached to horizon. steel framing is up now. www.hsas.org Ground Breaking Ceremony After ten years of anticipation and hard work, Horizon Science Academy, with the cooperation of Concept Schools and Martini Construction, was able to break ground for our new sport complex. The complex will house a gymnasium as well as a music, art and the JROTC department. Horizon Science Academy Cleveland held a groundbreaking ceremony Thursday Oct. 23rd 08 to commemorate the start of construction of a new gymnasium. The charter high school, located in the circular building on South Marginal Road that once housed the AAA, hosted many guests for the event, as well as its 500 students and their families. The new complex will serve the school as well as the surrounding community. The groundbreaking caps a good year for the school, which found out in August that it received an “EXCELLENT" rating from the state.
April 30, 200916 yr http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20090428/FREE/904289946 City to raze long-empty HoJo near Cleveland's Shoreway By STAN BULLARD 1:13 pm, April 28, 2009 A demolition crew is preparing to flatten the long-empty, 12-story hotel towering over the Shoreway at 5700 S. Marginal Road near downtown Cleveland...
April 30, 200916 yr ^This has been posted in the demolitions thread. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
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