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Nothing earth shattering, but the Marriott at Key is set for a top down room renovation of all 400 rooms starting later this year.

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Cool! That's becoming one of the nicest hotels in the city even for locals to enjoy. It was already was IMO even before the lobby renos.

2 hours ago, KJP said:

Cross-posted in the Opportunity Zones thread...

 

‘The floodgates are about to open’: Cuyahoga County, Cleveland leaders unveil opportunity-zone plan

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2019/03/the-floodgates-are-about-to-open-cuyahoga-county-cleveland-leaders-unveil-opportunity-zone-plan.html

 

I'm really hoping that this "opportunity floodgate" will also result in opportunities being provided to those who need it the most. Quality housing and employment in these areas are needed for everyone. I'm on the fence about designating Downtown, Ohio City, Tremont, and University Circle as opportunity zones under the requirement of low-income? However, MidTown, Clark-Fulton, Glenville, North Collinwood, Forgotten Triangle, the industrial areas, etc. make more sense. 

It’s bizarre that so many distressed areas of the city are not in the Zone. This is not how “market solutions” are supposed to work, where a dartboard chooses winning and losing neighborhoods. 

I have mixed feelings as well. I think I am happy with the choices made because I firmly believe in building out from successful nodes, basically the spillover effect. However, I think the zones need to definitely include the fringes of said neighborhoods and should be an ever changing boundary. For example, at this very point in time, the Eastern Hough, Southern Glenville areas should definitely be included, but as those stabilize, the boundaries should be shifted further north in Glenville towards St Clair and further west in Hough towards 55th

34 minutes ago, YO to the CLE said:

I have mixed feelings as well. I think I am happy with the choices made because I firmly believe in building out from successful nodes, basically the spillover effect. However, I think the zones need to definitely include the fringes of said neighborhoods and should be an ever changing boundary. For example, at this very point in time, the Eastern Hough, Southern Glenville areas should definitely be included, but as those stabilize, the boundaries should be shifted further north in Glenville towards St Clair and further west in Hough towards 55th

Thats a very valid proposal, to have the opportunity zones change as areas are brought up to a certain standard. I’d be okay if the opportunity zones downtown were specifically parking lots, haha. I just can’t see any part of of Ohio city needing tax credits. You have massive development happening from one side of the neighborhood to the next. Tremont has some weaker areas, but doesn’t really need it either. My concern for these tax credits is in areas neighboring “gentrified” neighborhoods. Rents are rising in Clark-Fulton and speculation is already happening there. I’ve worked with residents there who were priced out of living north of the freeway and the refugees. Metro West told me the average price of a 2 bed 1 bath has risen 150ish dollars in the past couple years. I just hope that the developments can have a mix of housing options, ie more projects like Aspen Place. 

 

LIHTC + Opp Zone

Opportunity Zones were not intended to be the poorest of poor neighborhoods, but rather neighborhoods with a both a high poverty rate and a high chance to draw investment given some incentives.  They are defined by census tracts, so the zones can't be any more fine grained than that.

21 minutes ago, X said:

Opportunity Zones were not intended to be the poorest of poor neighborhoods, but rather neighborhoods with a both a high poverty rate and a high chance to draw investment given some incentives.  They are defined by census tracts, so the zones can't be any more fine grained than that.

Exactly. This isn’t a grant. There still has to be return on investment. It’s a balancing act

Loving that nice chunk of aquamarine in Euclid

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Not really development per se, but here's some power washing action at the library 

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9 hours ago, marty15 said:

I think this speaks to the lack of older buildings left to reno. Time for new! ?

 

"People talk about there being few downtown buildings that can be converted to new uses," Yablonsky added in a phone interview. "This isn't a case of that. I can think of at least four that could benefit from the credits off the top of my head. More properties are also becoming eligible because of the creation of additional historic districts downtown, such as on Superior Avenue and in the Flats."

 

There's not many left, but there's still a few.

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Iconic blue-collar bar, Major Hoopples, threatened by a bike path – and progress: Mark Naymik

Norm Plonski, owner of Major Hoopples in Flats, worries that the loss of street parking will hurt his business. The Metroparks is taking the spaces for a new bike trail and buffer.

 

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Among my many gripes, Plonski doesn't even own the lot he's complaining about.

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The best part is that they had a meeting about parking concerns at his restaurant but he wasn't there. 

1 hour ago, GISguy said:

 

Among my many gripes, Plonski doesn't even own the lot he's complaining about.

 

This always happens with bike, bus, and ped infra. See Chicago's failed BRT sadly. People are so wrapped in car dependence they don't understand how multi-modal infrastructure is a benefit to business, not a threat.

I’m having flashbacks to that pizza guy who argued the skate park was going to ruin his business. 

2 minutes ago, surfohio said:

I’m having flashbacks to that pizza guy who argued the skate park was going to ruin his business. 

 

Everybody knows that people that go to skate parks never get hungry. 

4 minutes ago, freefourur said:

 

Everybody knows that people that go to skate parks never get hungry. 

Lol. Or heaven forbid, have a place for parents to patronize while the kids are skating. 

 

Hooples is gonna be fine. It’s a cool little spot. Still waiting to see what happens with the Pats in the Flats property. If I had the extra money....

 

27 minutes ago, surfohio said:

Lol. Or heaven forbid, have a place for parents to patronize while the kids are skating. 

 

Hooples is gonna be fine. It’s a cool little spot. Still waiting to see what happens with the Pats in the Flats property. If I had the extra money....

 

 

I've been to Hooples 20+ times. I've driven to Hooples 0 times. 

There's a lively debate going on the Cleveland Critical Mass page at the moment, mostly the debate about it being 'blue collar', 'iconic', and the way the metroparks "stuff projects down these people's throats". No complaints about the 12 new townhouses going in, the buildup/rebuild of Duck Island, and so on. Weird NIMBY'ism flex with that FB page, glad folks here are a bit more nuanced hah

 

And edit: after checking twitter, reddit, and all the in-betweens, the Critical Mass Page (a cycling page mind you!) seem to be the only ones upset about removing public ROW parking. It's kind of funny that they're the only ones that feel bad for someone who doesn't want to embrace new business.

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45 minutes ago, surfohio said:

Lol. Or heaven forbid, have a place for parents to patronize while the kids are skating. 

 

Hooples is gonna be fine. It’s a cool little spot. Still waiting to see what happens with the Pats in the Flats property. If I had the extra money....

 

Pats in the Flats has changed to, Anne's Lunch?

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15 minutes ago, Eastside said:

Pats in the Flats has changed to, Anne's Lunch?

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I always thought the name did them a lot of harm.  They were nowhere near the Flats and right by Tremont.   With all that industry around a lunch/after work place makes more sense anyway.

32 minutes ago, GISguy said:

There's a lively debate going on the Cleveland Critical Mass page at the moment, mostly the debate about it being 'blue collar', 'iconic', and the way the metroparks "stuff projects down these people's throats". No complaints about the 12 new townhouses going in, the buildup/rebuild of Duck Island, and so on. Weird NIMBY'ism flex with that FB page, glad folks here are a bit more nuanced hah

 

It's Naymik.  He's either completely off the mark or dead on, rarely in between.   His worst misses have involved bars, for what it's worth.

1 hour ago, E Rocc said:

 

I always thought the name did them a lot of harm.  They were nowhere near the Flats and right by Tremont.   With all that industry around a lunch/after work place makes more sense anyway.

 

No---they were clearly in the Flats and definitely not in Tremont. If you're in Tremont and go DOWN a big hill towards the river, you're in the Flats. 

 

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The new smartboards are going in at E9 and Prospect, is there a map of all the locations they're going to put them in?

 

 

 

 

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Congratulations to the City of Cleveland and all project partners of Highland Park Mausoleum, the 2019 Celebration of Preservation recipient of the Distinguished Restoration Award. Join us on Wednesday, May 22nd at the Ohio Theatre as we recognize this project and 12 others for achievements in historic preservation. 

 

Built in 1926 by the City of Cleveland, the Highland Park Mausoleum was the first municipally owned and operated mausoleum in the country. The impressive building also housed administrative offices for all of the city’s cemeteries, a crematorium and chapel. The building functioned in this capacity until 2010, when it was vacated due to severe disrepair.

 

 

 

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Putting something on top of the Macy building I think

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And 2 more around the corner 

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The crane on Prospect is replacing the HVAC for the Marriott. It will be there for today and tomorrow. Not sure about the crane on Ontario, but it definitely looks to be something for the May Company project. 

^The Marriott on Public Square (at Key)? Or the Residence Inn that houses the Colonial and Euclid Arcades?

 

Yes, the Residence Inn. I'm used to just calling it the Marriott. Sorry about that! 

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New Convention center is low on meetings space.       google   -     convention center aims to ease space squeeze

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Check out the convention center thread in the completed projects section. Might have to move it back to active construction project section again.

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

10 hours ago, simplythis said:

 

What would a new regional plan accomplish over Vibrant NEO or Aim Forward 2040? The plans aren't worth the millions spent on them because there's no regional collaboration, and nothing is executed. Home rule largely makes regional plans fairly useless. Our state and region aren't progressive enough to enforce these plans. I think that its fairly clear what our region needs, but its not going to get there with another $5 million dollar coffee table book.

34 minutes ago, Terdolph said:

I wish that a private developer would buy this building and turn it into market rate apartments.  I don't know why we have to put subsidized housing in a market rate residential district.   Same with the Valley View apartments on W 25th.

 

Well, all evidence points to better outcomes when people live in income diverse neighborhoods. If you want to keep poor people poor, then you can segregate them.

1 hour ago, Terdolph said:

I agree with you and am willing to admit that most poor people are going to stay poor.  I really don't have a problem with segregating them if, repeat if  the payoff is large enough.  Example: I think the payoff from making the Valley View apartments on W 25th would be enormous.   The value of that property would finance some very nice buildings elsewhere and programs that might help those people rather than letting them rot where they are.

Good lord, smh. You have some “amazing” takes but any sentence that starts with “I really don’t have a problem segregating them” regardless of what qualifier you add after that is pretty incredible. You do realize that a large portion of the CLE population is at or below the poverty line right? Smh

It’s THAT attitude that contributes to the lack of progress in this city in so many different areas. A large part of the city population believes, rightly in some cases, that people don’t give a damn about the folks who stayed here before it was cool and that the people pushing development are trying to move them out. If you want to get rid of that thought process, relegating people to permanent poverty and saying you’re ok with segregating them for any reason is not a way to do it

4 hours ago, inlovewithCLE said:

Good lord, smh. You have some “amazing” takes but any sentence that starts with “I really don’t have a problem segregating them” regardless of what qualifier you add after that is pretty incredible. You do realize that a large portion of the CLE population is at or below the poverty line right? Smh

 

Keep in mind,  Terdolph is the one who a few days ago advocated for two story buildings or a park on the Jacobs lot/Warehouse District lots and yesterday said that buildings shouldn't be so tall because they are overpowering the Terminal Tower.  I don't think logical, well  thought-out takes are his forte.

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8 hours ago, Terdolph said:

The people who believe that the "gentrifiers" don't give a damn about them are correct.

 

Now, that doesn't mean that gentrification doesn't benefit poor people, it does but let's not pretend that anybody actually gives a damn about the poor because in general they don't.

Well we know YOU don’t 

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