November 29, 20204 yr 7 hours ago, X said: Any chance they're going to leave a cut out through their building to allow for a possible future rail expansion? Perhaps that proposed office building could be built with provisions for the Blue Line to run under it? That whole Warrensville-Chagrin intersection was redesigned to eliminate the diagonal Van Aken-Northfield component. To introduce a diagonal crossing for a rail line would sort of undo the improvements, though rail traffic would be far more manageable than the myriad of rubber-tired vehicles that passed through it. The potential location of the ramp to go under the building and intersection is the site of the former substation to the southwest of the station and storage track. Of course, tunneling would add substantially to the cost of an extension. However the line is extended, to have a rail station incorporated into the whole redevelopment project, especially one that would attract riders from two directions, would be a tremendous asset. RTA needs to have forward thinkers in the agency to look beyond the Blue/Green ending points that were established in the early-mid 1930's. The same holds true for the Red Line's eastern end from 1955 (and really, the east side of the former CTS rapid transit line was no more than the completion of the Van Sweringen project that was started in the early 1930's as well).
November 29, 20204 yr Lincoln Building progress is glacial, but there’s hardly a rush for new storefronts right now. The canopy is a nice addition and the facing stone(?) being used on the ground floor looks good from across the street. My hovercraft is full of eels
November 30, 20204 yr Lincoln Building progress is glacial, but there’s hardly a rush for new storefronts right now. The canopy is a nice addition and the facing stone(?) being used on the ground floor looks good from across the street. I love this project so much. Small but impactful. Obviously they will need to have strong retail connections to fully bring this to life but fingers crossed.Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk
November 30, 20204 yr Looks way better. Glad to see. My parents met in the Lincoln Building in the mid 50s. My mom got her clutches into my dad before he could run back to NYC. The whole office use to drink at the bar in the Auditorium Hotel across the street.
November 30, 20204 yr Once again - What is this building being converted to. I think it was recently used for parking.
December 2, 20204 yr Author Posted this in the public transportation section. Since most of us visit the developments/projects section, I thought you might miss this without my posting this here. Please comment in the public transportation section...... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 8, 20204 yr Author MONDAY, DECEMBER 7, 2020 Seeds & Sprouts XIII - Early intel on real estate projects Two financial firms establish first local offices Building permit applications were filed in recent weeks with the City of Cleveland for two financial institutions seeking their first offices in the Greater Cleveland market. The financial institutions want to locate new offices in two separate downtown Cleveland buildings owned by the Hertz Group of Woodland Hills, CA. HSB Architects + Engineers of Cleveland submitted both permit applications. According to a Nov. 17 letter from Building & Housing Examiner Glen Murray, the city approved a building permit to Provenzale Construction Co. of Cleveland on behalf of Peoples United Bank of Bridgeport, CT, to locate what appears to be a lending office in 2,907 square feet of space on the 15th floor of the 19-story North Point Building, 1001 Lakeside Ave. The building code allows Peoples United Bank's Cleveland planned office space to have a maximum occupancy of 29 people. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/12/seeds-sprouts-xiii-early-intel-on-real.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 11, 20204 yr On 12/7/2020 at 11:46 PM, KJP said: MONDAY, DECEMBER 7, 2020 Seeds & Sprouts XIII - Early intel on real estate projects Two financial firms establish first local offices Building permit applications were filed in recent weeks with the City of Cleveland for two financial institutions seeking their first offices in the Greater Cleveland market. The financial institutions want to locate new offices in two separate downtown Cleveland buildings owned by the Hertz Group of Woodland Hills, CA. HSB Architects + Engineers of Cleveland submitted both permit applications. According to a Nov. 17 letter from Building & Housing Examiner Glen Murray, the city approved a building permit to Provenzale Construction Co. of Cleveland on behalf of Peoples United Bank of Bridgeport, CT, to locate what appears to be a lending office in 2,907 square feet of space on the 15th floor of the 19-story North Point Building, 1001 Lakeside Ave. The building code allows Peoples United Bank's Cleveland planned office space to have a maximum occupancy of 29 people. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/12/seeds-sprouts-xiii-early-intel-on-real.html A little tidbit. The 5 story part of North Point (Jones Day HQ) was constructed on top of the Cleveland Press building’s foundation. The shoots and trams to move the massive rolls of paper around are still in place in the sub basement.
December 14, 20204 yr Putting this here because not sure where else it should go. I'm curious about some people's aversion to setbacks on some new developments proposed. Thinking specifically to the one on E. 90th St and Bridgeworks. For the E90, the way the original design had setbacks reminded me of many of the apartments in the area, including ones on East Blvd in Glenville and ones on Overlook Rd in Cleveland Hts near Kenilworth. The buildings I am referring are all older almost century buildings, but when you walk into the courtyard your experience is transformed from an urban space to a greenish residential area. Also Shaker Blvd, between Van Aken and Coventry. This street in particular has buildings that are all set back at least 15' or more, but it has a great density like the upper east side of NYC. I feel E90 street was and is largely residential and the setbacks allow for a more comforting relationship between the buildings and the street. I understand the original design got some pushback, but personally I would prefer some of the similar courtyard-ish areas included in its final design, as well as a little distance from the sidewalk to the building. For Bridgeworks, the small courtyard/garden space on the corner makes sense to me. That bridge is very commanding in its presence and a proper transition is needed from the street to the building. I am all for density, but I do not feel every building needs to be right up to the corner. This is evident in other buildings around the city, including One University Circle and the east side of the Federal Courthouse on Huron. A little courtyard, as is being presented here, seems like a great addition to add greenery to the space, allowing for a bar or café to have a nice patio on the corner there.
December 14, 20204 yr On 12/14/2020 at 10:14 AM, scg80 said: Putting this here because not sure where else it should go. I'm curious about some people's aversion to setbacks on some new developments proposed. Thinking specifically to the one on E. 90th St and Bridgeworks. For the E90, the way the original design had setbacks reminded me of many of the apartments in the area, including ones on East Blvd in Glenville and ones on Overlook Rd in Cleveland Hts near Kenilworth. The buildings I am referring are all older almost century buildings, but when you walk into the courtyard your experience is transformed from an urban space to a greenish residential area. Also Shaker Blvd, between Van Aken and Coventry. This street in particular has buildings that are all set back at least 15' or more, but it has a great density like the upper east side of NYC. I feel E90 street was and is largely residential and the setbacks allow for a more comforting relationship between the buildings and the street. I understand the original design got some pushback, but personally I would prefer some of the similar courtyard-ish areas included in its final design, as well as a little distance from the sidewalk to the building. For Bridgeworks, the small courtyard/garden space on the corner makes sense to me. That bridge is very commanding in its presence and a proper transition is needed from the street to the building. I am all for density, but I do not feel every building needs to be right up to the corner. This is evident in other buildings around the city, including One University Circle and the east side of the Federal Courthouse on Huron. A little courtyard, as is being presented here, seems like a great addition to add greenery to the space, allowing for a bar or café to have a nice patio on the corner there. I agree with you. Setbacks shouldnt be used when there is an existing street wall, but where there isn’t one, it shouldn't be as much of a factor and is often appropriate depending on the site. bridge works is an interesting and unique spot, urban but not necessarily with an exiting street wall. With the church and bridge I would agree that a setback and plaza would be appropriate in order to appreciate and absorb all that is happening in that area as opposed to hiding it. Edited December 16, 20204 yr by willyboy
December 14, 20204 yr Also agree generally. In certain instances set backs are not a bad urban form and often are almost required (and I am a big street wall advocate). More specifically, I don't have a problem with the Bridgeworks plaza, I would just like to see a rendering with it on the church side rather than the bridge side and see how that works. It would give the church a bit of a European feel and the building would not loom over the church as much in my opinion. Also, I liked the original East 90th apartments design (actually I think it was the second design as the first was rejected out of hand as too tall and dense) with the setbacks even though it was roundly panned for the most part on this forum. I believed the setbacks and the greenery were appropriate in that environment, especially given all the single family homes nearby. It was still a dense plan. It some how reminded me of areas of Westwood in LA which are actually quite dense and walkable.
December 14, 20204 yr I agree, but the plaza needs to exist where it is to preserve the original subway ticket booth that they want to retain. They could shift the building over to have plazas on both sides of the building, but that creates less usable spaces. What would be cool is if they constructed the building similar to the Lausche State Office building on the West 6th side to have the plaza exist under the building but also command a strong street wall. This also provides a handy place to wait for buses to arrive, but it isn't my money being spent.
December 14, 20204 yr On 12/11/2020 at 9:19 AM, marty15 said: A little tidbit. The 5 story part of North Point (Jones Day HQ) was constructed on top of the Cleveland Press building’s foundation. The shoots and trams to move the massive rolls of paper around are still in place in the sub basement. As someone who was crammed into that basement a few times, I'm shocked I did not know of this fact!
December 14, 20204 yr Sorry if this isn’t the right spot for this, but I’m trying to determine how outdated the skyline used by the Indians in their release is (not to discuss the name change.) It looks to me it is at least Pre-Beacon?
December 14, 20204 yr Author It's being discussed in the Cleveland Indians thread in the sports section. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 29, 20204 yr Is this the same outfit as you reported on @KJP ? re-SHW. 6th & Frankfort. Edited March 24, 20214 yr by marty15
December 29, 20204 yr Author Yes. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 2, 20214 yr Author Cross-posted in the Cleveland downtown office thread. There's an office development (renovation) in there..... On 1/1/2021 at 6:57 PM, KJP said: FRIDAY, JANUARY 1, 2021 Report: Downtown Cleveland office market withstood 2020 Insurer FM Global is the latest to move its offices downtown In its latest Skyline Report, real estate services firm Jones Lang LaSalle (JLL) said downtown Cleveland's office market is far healthier than some had feared. Its report had some interesting data to share, showing that downtown is quietly waiting for the all-clear from pandemic-related restrictions to resume its renaissance. The report also suggests that downtown Cleveland is in need of more Trophy Class or Class A multi-tenant office space either by renovating older buildings or, more likely, building new ones. With Ohio's passage of the Transformational Mixed Use Development tax credit program, developers may soon have the resources to add high-end, competitive office spaces downtown. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2021/01/report-downtown-cleveland-office-market.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 22, 20214 yr I know I'm reviving a rather old topic, but I didn't see this completely answered yet after the project finished: On 10/23/2019 at 2:29 PM, Paul in Cleveland said: Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but wasn't sure where to ask this. We see this view of 75 Erieview every day from our offices, and I've often wondered what the small section of red squares was about. The first time I noticed it (years ago), I wondered if it was a test to see whether they wanted to paint the whole facade red (obviously not, as it's stayed this way). Now I don't know if I'd care for an entire red facade, but I do think the red is interesting — and could work if it were a little more widespread. Seems sort of random the way they have it. A coworker wondered if it was to memorialize Aliza Sherman, who was murdered nearby a few years ago, but it seems really unlikely to me that a building owner would be okay with that sort of thing. Not a great way to attract new tenants. Anyway, if anyone knows more, I'd appreciate the insight. ?? On 10/23/2019 at 7:57 PM, Larry1962 said: As a reminder here some older cleveland.com articles about 45-55-65-75 Erieview Plaza Buildings: Alto Partners buys 55 Erieview, strikes deal for 65-75 Erieview in downtown Cleveland: https://www.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2017/01/alto_partners_buys_55_erieview.html&ved=2ahUKEwjGnYCsyLPlAhVQrp4KHYvhDkcQFjAAegQIARAC&usg=AOvVaw3D3J3rpRxM5BxTD9Hrf2Cv 45 Erieview office tower in downtown Cleveland, half empty, sells in off-market deal: https://www.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2016/12/45_erieview_office_tower_in_do.html This is now called THE FIVES AT ERIEVIEW PLAZA with a handy "Brochure" with more pics and renderings.
January 25, 20214 yr Author Saw on Dodge Reports that a new "Lyft Center - Cleveland" seeks to start construction March 1 at an unidentified location. Anyone know where? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 25, 20214 yr 4 hours ago, KJP said: Saw on Dodge Reports that a new "Lyft Center - Cleveland" seeks to start construction March 1 at an unidentified location. Anyone know where? I thought I saw someone mention Stones Levee area? May be something else I was thinking of 🤷🏻♂️ Edited January 25, 20214 yr by marty15
January 25, 20214 yr 21 hours ago, marty15 said: So I know this isn’t the appropriate thread for this, but it’s something that’s important to me. I spent a lot of time growing up in Ashtabula. My dad literally worked on this when it was being built. Norfolk Southern consolidated all their operations to Sandusky and shuttered their Ashtabula operations. Now they’re leveling everything they own in the harbor so another operator cant come in without building from scratch. The coal arch was built by Conrail in the early 80’s. NS put out a demo bid based on the value of scrap. Nothing more. Things like this irritate me to no end. These mega corporations don’t care one bit about the damage they do to the communities they’re in. The Ashtabula Arch IS Ashtabula. The cause is to get it into the Ashtabula County Metroparks hands. A nonprofit that has the ability to go after historic landmark tax credits. I started a change.org for it. Would be awesome if you guys wouldn’t mind signing it! I’m blowing my anonymity for this! Lol https://www.change.org/p/to-convince-norfolk-southern-to-not-demolish-the-iconic-and-historic-ashtabula-harbor-coal-arch-save-the-ashtabula-arch Signed! I grew up out that way too, and spent more than a few days down by the harbor. That arch really is a unique landmark for Ashtabula and would really be a tragedy to lose. Thanks for sharing
January 25, 20214 yr 4 hours ago, KJP said: Saw on Dodge Reports that a new "Lyft Center - Cleveland" seeks to start construction March 1 at an unidentified location. Anyone know where? 38 minutes ago, marty15 said: I thought I saw someone mention Stones Levee area? May be something else I was thinking of 🤷🏻♂️ what's a new "Lyft Center"-- where lyft drivers will stage like at Hopkins?
January 25, 20214 yr 26 minutes ago, PoshSteve said: Signed! I grew up out that way too, and spent more than a few days down by the harbor. That arch really is a unique landmark for Ashtabula and would really be a tragedy to lose. Thanks for sharing Thanks Posh! The city has engaged with them to stop them from demolishing it. City Council is supporting saving it as well. Would be awesome to link this to Walnut Beach Park. Maybe President Joe will have some infrastructure funds to retrofit it to a pedestrian/biking bridge.
January 26, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, marty15 said: I thought I saw someone mention Stones Levee area? May be something else I was thinking of 🤷🏻♂️ That was DoorDash in Stone's Levee: https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/doordash-brings-warehouse-cleveland-while-amazon-deal-expires Who knows what a Lyft Center is.
January 26, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, gg707 said: That was DoorDash in Stone's Levee: https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/doordash-brings-warehouse-cleveland-while-amazon-deal-expires Who knows what a Lyft Center is. That’s what it was! My bad!
January 26, 20214 yr 19 minutes ago, gg707 said: That was DoorDash in Stone's Levee: https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/doordash-brings-warehouse-cleveland-while-amazon-deal-expires Who knows what a Lyft Center is. It’s basically a car wash/ oil change/ tire/ minor repair workshop for Lyft drivers. I wouldn’t get excited about it. My hovercraft is full of eels
January 26, 20214 yr Author Interesting...... Public Auditorium (Improvements) Action Stage: Pre-Design Valuation: $4,000,000 Status: Proposed for construction - Funding in 2022 - Firm schedules remain to be determined City of Cleveland/Purchases & Supplies "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 26, 20214 yr 41 minutes ago, KJP said: Interesting...... Public Auditorium (Improvements) Action Stage: Pre-Design Valuation: $4,000,000 Status: Proposed for construction - Funding in 2022 - Firm schedules remain to be determined City of Cleveland/Purchases & Supplies I wonder how feasible merging Public Auditorium in with the Convention Center would be. Maybe not as much physically, other than underground connections, but just having the management/marketing all together would surely be a plus.
January 26, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, PoshSteve said: I wonder how feasible merging Public Auditorium in with the Convention Center would be. Maybe not as much physically, other than underground connections, but just having the management/marketing all together would surely be a plus. I'm not sure what you mean here. They are connected underground. Is that what you are saying,
January 27, 20214 yr I thought they removed the underground connection when the convention center was renovated.
January 27, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, skiwest said: I thought they removed the underground connection when the convention center was renovated. It is still connected--the lower level under the arena has always had meeting rooms. https://www.clevelandconventions.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Public-Auditorium-Cap-Chart-and-Floorplan.pdf
January 27, 20214 yr Right, I thought they were physically connected already. I mean fully combining it in to the Convention Center though. Right now they're two separate entities. Even if they currently work together, having one owner/one manager/one marketing team seems like it would be better for both.
January 28, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, PoshSteve said: Right, I thought they were physically connected already. I mean fully combining it in to the Convention Center though. Right now they're two separate entities. Even if they currently work together, having one owner/one manager/one marketing team seems like it would be better for both. I'm not sure how that works. I'm sure the city has someone. I'm also sure that person is not very proactive....
January 30, 20214 yr I was surprised no one on here has been talking about the new Crain's article on the Neighborhood Homes Investment Act. Apparently the bill was reintroduced on Thursday. Both Ohio senators are sponsors. https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/ohio-housing-groups-are-watching-federal-tax-credit-proposal-designed-bridge-appraisal Its not Cleveland development specific, but the impact on development in Cleveland could be incredible if it's passed. Essentially, it's like the LIHTC but for homeownership. For-sale home construction and renovation in qualified low income census tracts could use the tax credit to cover up to 35% of eligible costs! The intent is to allow for more affordable development where low home prices and high construction costs prevent renovation/new construction. The Crain's article is oddly specific about single-family homes, but don't worry: It would apply to 1-4 unit homes, condos, and housing co-ops. Map shows qualified census tracts:
January 30, 20214 yr This has the potential to be huge. Thanks for posting. We all love the huge projects (because they are awesome!) but the work of revamping individual homes is really what transforms neighborhoods. Ohio City, Gordon Square, and Tremont have benefited mostly through all the work over the past 20 years renovating previously worn houses and building new houses on the open lots. And it is way easier to do that sort of work in an area where you don't immediately end up under water on the house due to depressed home values. This also will create increased opportunities for families to purchase homes for sub-250k, which is a price range that is really hard to hit without some sort of subsidies.
January 30, 20214 yr Ah you beat me to it! I was about to post it in the housing thread. This really does have the potential to be transformative and help level the playing field between urban infill and exurban sprawl. I think it has a good chance of passing too, since it benefits small town and rural areas as well.
January 30, 20214 yr 11 hours ago, tykaps said: Map shows qualified census tracts: Wow, that’s almost the entire city of Cleveland except for downtown.
January 30, 20214 yr I really can't state it enough how big of an impact this could have on the city. Over a 10 year period, we could very realistically see as much as 2-4,000 units of for sale housing in Cleveland using this program. Imagine all the old duplexes that could be saved because this makes it financially feasible to renovate. Imagine if those $250k homes planned for Hough were only $162.5k. They'd definitely sell and build a lot more. Imagine if the Solo area of Ohio City could develop while maintaining an affordable area to buy in the neighborhood. So many opportunities.
January 30, 20214 yr Combine that with the city tax abatement program (assuming it is extended), this would really give affordable residential property in Cleveland an edge. Most of the buyers would also presumably qualify for down payment assistance or closing cost assistance programs, making these homes potentially very attainable for people of modest means.
January 30, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, surfohio said: Great news! Now does anyone have a map I can see without a microscope lol?? http://districts.reomatch.com/NHIC.asp
January 30, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, tykaps said: http://districts.reomatch.com/NHIC.asp Holy cow I'm just barely inside the area, the next street west is outside of it. I was planning on some pretty extensive renovations in April, now I'm wondering if I should be waiting to see what happens.
January 30, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, gg707 said: Combine that with the city tax abatement program (assuming it is extended), this would really give affordable residential property in Cleveland an edge. Most of the buyers would also presumably qualify for down payment assistance or closing cost assistance programs, making these homes potentially very attainable for people of modest means. All good until the “down payment or closing cost assistance programs” enter the equation, especially when it will be for, as you state, most buyers. Edited January 30, 20214 yr by CLENYC
January 31, 20214 yr I’m not sure I follow. Lower income people who haven’t been able to save a full down payment shouldn’t be able to buy a home even though they can afford the payment otherwise? I’m not taking about 2005 style ARM loans with nothing down. These are programs organized by public agencies or community organizations to assist qualified buyers.
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