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14 hours ago, KJP said:

 

Except they have more than 141,000 square feet at their existing HQ in North Olmsted with overflow space leased at offices along Country Club Boulevard for a total of 600+ employees.

 

BTW, their NO HQ building was transferred by quit-claim deed earlier this year to Fortune Brands Global Plumbing Group LLC.

 

So I don't think that HQ is for Moen unless Fortune Brands intends to shrink them. I will try to find out who it is.

TransDigm? This is probably the largest company headquartered here that no one knows about. 
 

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4 hours ago, marty15 said:

TransDigm? This is probably the largest company headquartered here that no one knows about. 
 

 

I wonder what their HQ employment is?

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

16 minutes ago, KJP said:

 

I wonder what their HQ employment is?

 

 

i dk, but i saw they have 14,200 total employees as of 2020.

 

oh and they do airplane parts.

4 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

 

 

i dk, but i saw they have 14,200 total employees as of 2020.

 

oh and they do airplane parts.

Their HQ employment is very small. My family is good friends with the CEO and I have a a friend who works for him at HQ. Probably around 100 people. 

What can the city of Cleveland realistically do to attract more businesses away from the suburbs? I’m generally curious. Is it the leadership just doing nothing? I know there’s not a lot of of Class A office space at the moment. Is that it?

Super lame of CBIZ.  And what leadership?  The county, the city has none. 

Things won't change until we have regionalization.  The City bears the brunt of the cost and operation for many of our regional assets but only has about 25% of the population- and it's the poorest part of the population at that.  Yes, the City of Cleveland could use better leaders, but they are working at a severe disadvantage to the suburbs.  The suburbs only have to focus on their own town.  The City of Cleveland in many ways serves the whole county, and then some.  There needs to be a level playing field and an acceptance that city boundaries really don't matter much.  Really all of Cuyahoga County is "Cleveland", right?

We have a general sprawl discussion thread.  It isn't this one.

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On 6/10/2021 at 12:06 PM, KJP said:

I consider buildings of more than 500,000 sf to be whales. Cliffs HQ may be close but not quite. Only SHW's HQ, Justice Center and another building will qualify.
 

On 6/10/2021 at 11:47 AM, GREGinPARMA said:


Can you atleast give us a rough timeframe of when you will have the green light?

 

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I have no idea, but I'm hoping it won't be longer than a month

 


Soooooo... just fishing for info here.... any news on this whale??
 

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3 hours ago, NR said:


Soooooo... just fishing for info here.... any news on this whale??
 

😂🤷🏻‍♂️🤔

 

There's a possibility that the third whale may not be a whale, after all. The project was first proposed at below 500,000 sf, then the owner bumped it up to more than 500,000 sf, then has reverted back to the original size in its privileged communications. I'm hoping to verify the actual square footage soon. 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Some of the Shuttered Venues Operators Grants were released today (a Federal program to assist live entertainment venues and producers affected by COVID).   Here are the Cleveland recipients.  Some big dollars going to Music Box and Hilarities!  

 

 

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Ooh cool! I'd kind of like to see the Metroparks buy that, though I doubt they could afford it. 

That's fantastic! Those would be some of the best water views in the city, completely unobstructed sightlines to the lake and the river. I hope a tower that size or bigger gets built, it would be a great gatekeeper at the mouth of the Cuyahoga and help extend the city skyline across the river. Plus hopefully help activate more towers throughout the flats.

 

It's being discussed on the Lakefront Development thread.

This seems related enough to developments for this thread, if not related to a development. Certainly a rampant problem amongst local developments, glad to see some action taken by the city on it.

 

On 6/22/2021 at 12:28 PM, Dino said:

Things won't change until we have regionalization.  The City bears the brunt of the cost and operation for many of our regional assets but only has about 25% of the population- and it's the poorest part of the population at that.  Yes, the City of Cleveland could use better leaders, but they are working at a severe disadvantage to the suburbs.  The suburbs only have to focus on their own town.  The City of Cleveland in many ways serves the whole county, and then some.  There needs to be a level playing field and an acceptance that city boundaries really don't matter much.  Really all of Cuyahoga County is "Cleveland", right?

As a professional planner working for a consolidated county government, consolidation is not necessarily beneficial.  Less emphasis on the urban core and more on the periphery has resulted in a neglected downtown that doesn't attract much here, if that's what you meant by "regionalization".

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Just a suggestion to keep us in the good graces of the mods....

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I'm very happy to announce that I am finally happy to invite my co-workers to Cleveland. It has changed so much since i was born in '98... and that says alot. From ghetto, and joke sports teams to a really good center of Intel and Industrials. The day that I see Cleveland become the TRUE "Middle Child" between Chicago and New York, I'll be set, and I'm very happy to say we're working towards that progressive environment. Screw the other C's (Don't say you've never said Cleveland is better than any of them)... If We're built for another 6 300+ ft high-rise buildings we'll get to that landmark. We're not an expansive city, we just have goals not to absorb other cities for the better of Cleveland's own. Believe me if Parma was annexed it would be devastating. but otherwise population is not all we're looking at here. Columbus may have the people, but we have the daily commuter. Who doesn't work in the general Cleveland area in NEO? That's why we're growing so much IMO. We have a lot of local tourism, 4 sports markets, casinos, national museums, world renown performance art centers, and people who actually want to keep money in Cleveland. I strive to watch us grow, while I may watch from a distance here in Texas, I am very proud of what we're able to accomplish in the last 5 years. It's crazy to me, and from my birth it went from nothing, to restoration, to rebuild. and I'm very happy to say the rust belt never dies.

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Does that mean you/your co-workers/your business is relocating to Cleveland?

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

50 minutes ago, KJP said:

Does that mean you/your co-workers/your business is relocating to Cleveland?

lol no i'm just showing them around, we're in the military. 🤣

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OK, I was wondering why you posted this in a development thread vs Cleveland tourism thread....

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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SUNDAY, AUGUST 8, 2021

Circle Square, Ohio City, Van Aken District, Woodhill Station show what's possible

 

A few short steps away from a few rapid transit stations, thousands of housing units, millions of square feet of commercial space and a low-mileage lifestyle are rising in Greater Cleveland. And yet the work is just getting started.

 

There are many more developments coming to within steps of the region's 90 rapid transit stations. In the concept of Transit Oriented Development (TOD), the more doorways that are put closer to a transit stop, the better.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2021/08/circle-square-ohio-city-van-aken.html

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

7 hours ago, KJP said:

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SUNDAY, AUGUST 8, 2021

Circle Square, Ohio City, Van Aken District, Woodhill Station show what's possible

 

A few short steps away from a few rapid transit stations, thousands of housing units, millions of square feet of commercial space and a low-mileage lifestyle are rising in Greater Cleveland. And yet the work is just getting started.

 

There are many more developments coming to within steps of the region's 90 rapid transit stations. In the concept of Transit Oriented Development (TOD), the more doorways that are put closer to a transit stop, the better.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2021/08/circle-square-ohio-city-van-aken.html


Great article, Ken!  I’d love to see a follow-up article that highlights some of the RTA parking lots and other space near stations screaming for development. I feel like you’ve already posted about many of them here over the years. You’ve convinced me that W117-Madison is perhaps the next best opportunity for the 15 minute neighborhood with the Giant Eagle and Target 1/2 mile down the street, plus some of the potential ToD being in Lakewood schools to help attract families. (And it kills me to see that storage facility right next to that station to the south, ugh - so frustrating how bad this city has been with land use in the past.)

 

For similar reasons, lately I’ve been thinking that perhaps Brookpark Rd is the best option for the Amtrak Hopkins station - Red Line station already exists, decent amount of land for developing, and access is already there. Maybe we’d finally see some of those hotel developments that have been proposed become reality. The main drawback is that highways constrain it on three sides - plenty of immediate space, but not much beyond that. (And it would get direct Red Line access to passenger rail while the Amtrak station is at the lakefront. Even if Tower City eventually becomes the station again, I’m hoping we see passenger rail sooner than that, and thus RedLine access at Brookpark would be a bonus.)

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

Man, the abandoned strip mall just east of Shaker Square along Van Aken is practically begging for some TOD

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16 minutes ago, bikemail said:

Man, the abandoned strip mall just east of Shaker Square along Van Aken is practically begging for some TOD

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Shaker Square is such a huge opportunity. It really needs better connectivity to UC. The 48 (?) bus only runs every 30 minutes - that doesn’t cut it at all. Maybe double 48 frequency and/or add a line from Van Aken to UC and CC line via SS that slots between the 48 buses. 

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

When anybody on the board advocates for an extension of the Blue Line past Warrensville, I usually post that I would prefer extending the Shaker Rapid into University Circle and to the Clinic (probably from the E116 station).  I agree that Shaker Square is not connected to UC very well.  Also, this would make it easier for Shaker Heights residents and beyond to get UC.  I think would it be a boon to Shaker housing as so many residents work in UC   

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55 minutes ago, Htsguy said:

When anybody on the board advocates for an extension of the Blue Line past Warrensville I usual post that I would prefer extending the Shaker Rapid into University Circle and to the Clinic (probably from the E116 station).  I agree that Shaker Square is not connected to UC well.  Also this would make it easier for Shaker Heights residents and beyond to get UC.  I think it be a boon to Shaker housing as so many residents work in UC   

Absolutely. I’ve posted a Blue Line route of exactly that (in the RTA future thread).

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

Seems to me one of the biggest problems with rail in NEO was the decision to build lines on the cheapest land available and not build them on land where people actually live. Connect riders where they live/shop to where they work. Rail cars using existing roads are commonplace in Europe and consequently much cheaper to build and operate. We don't have to reinvent the wheel, just copy what already works. 

I still think one of the biggest areas of opportunity is the west Blvd station. that whole section on the north side of Detroit from west Blvd to w110th 

One thing I noticed that some developments in other cities do for residents if they are located by train stations is offer bus passes in their rent. 

I’m thinking I should have moved to Shaker for my east side option.

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20 hours ago, cadmen said:

Seems to me one of the biggest problems with rail in NEO was the decision to build lines on the cheapest land available and not build them on land where people actually live. Connect riders where they live/shop to where they work. Rail cars using existing roads are commonplace in Europe and consequently much cheaper to build and operate. We don't have to reinvent the wheel, just copy what already works. 

 

Since the rail lines aren't going to be moved, the best thing to do is develop along them. The loss of industry along them, especially the Red Line on the east side, offers an opportunity to clean up and redevelop sites near stations. Indeed, most rail transit (and their electric utilities) built up until the New Deal era was extended into undeveloped areas and used to promote their development. Design new neighborhoods to support the rail transit so the rail transit can support the neighborhoods.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I have a question. What ever happened to the Rock and Roll Walk of Fame? I always thought that was a fantastic idea to draw tourism but it seemed to vanish out of thin air.

1 hour ago, MyPhoneDead said:

I have a question. What ever happened to the Rock and Roll Walk of Fame? I always thought that was a fantastic idea to draw tourism but it seemed to vanish out of thin air.

Are you talking about the records in the sidewalks on Lakeside?

 

Are you talking about the records in the sidewalks on Lakeside?
 
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@MyPhoneDeadThey exist, but aren't promoted or well maintained.

What is the status of the rock hall expansion?  I recall a lot of pushback on the design reveal here on the forum. 
 

Was that design just at the proposal stage? 

Nothing has ever been submitted to date to the Review Boards, not even conceptual.  This is pure speculation on my part but I wonder if the powers that be at the Rock Hall might not slow the process down even further awaiting the results of the planning being done for the Lakefront in connection with the proposed Haslam plan.  That could take another two years or so.

Leaving the Tribe game tonight, saw that the Geis Condo Tower site at E9th & Bolivar has some world class signage saying ‘Development Site Available’. 
I drove down Bolivar early this morning and it definitely wasn’t there then. 

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5 minutes ago, roman totale XVII said:

Leaving the Tribe game tonight, saw that the Geis Condo Tower site at E9th & Bolivar has some world class signage saying ‘Development Site Available’. 
I drove down Bolivar early this morning and it definitely wasn’t there then. 

 

Yes, we have a thread for that! 🙂

 

 

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^ Thanks. I was trying to find it, but couldn’t. 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

3 hours ago, KJP said:

 

It’s real. A sheet of 3/4 plywood was $80 a few months ago. 

 

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THURSDAY, AUGUST 12, 2021

Where will you work tomorrow?

 

Forget everything you know about commercial office space. Expect the unexpected; anything is possible. We may be at a turning point in how, especially where office space is being delivered -- and it's not just about working from home.

 

Consider, for example, Brickhaus Partners' Bighaus project at Clifton and West boulevards in Cleveland's Edgewater-Cudell neighborhood. It was originally proposed as a five-unit townhouse development. Hardly a surprise. That's what Brickhaus does -- construct high-end townhomes.

 

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https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2021/08/where-will-you-work-tomorrow.html

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