October 17, 2024Oct 17 2 hours ago, E Rocc said: I saw a couple weeks ago that the OC is now officially named the Carl and Louis Stokes Opportunity Corridor. :0 Yeah I hate how long this name is, I wish they would just drop the "Opportunity Corridor" moniker.
October 17, 2024Oct 17 23 minutes ago, MyPhoneDead said: Yeah I hate how long this name is, I wish they would just drop the "Opportunity Corridor" moniker. Opportunity Corridor is a ridiculous name imo. How about just 490 extension?
October 17, 2024Oct 17 47 minutes ago, marty15 said: Opportunity Corridor is a ridiculous name imo. How about just 490 extension? What was the original name of East 105th street before we went to the numeric system? Lets just go with that name.
October 17, 2024Oct 17 1 hour ago, MyPhoneDead said: Yeah I hate how long this name is, I wish they would just drop the "Opportunity Corridor" moniker. As I have said before, Garrett Morgan Avenue would have been a better name all along. After all, his first traffic light was at one end. I even speculated they'd end up naming it after some politician. I just didn't expect it would be the same one as a nearby street.
October 17, 2024Oct 17 14 hours ago, Boomerang_Brian said: Great idea! A new place to go in downtown Cleveland: city plans to install free public restrooms in 3 spots https://www.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2024/10/a-new-place-to-go-in-downtown-cleveland-city-plans-to-install-free-public-restrooms-in-3-spots.html CLEVELAND, Ohio -- New public restrooms could be coming to downtown Cleveland if approved by the Cleveland Planning Commission. The city of Cleveland will go before the planning commission Friday in hopes of bringing Portland Loo to the city. Portland Loo, designed in Portland, Oregon, are gender-neutral, freestanding public restrooms. According to a presentation sent to the commission, this comes after a successful restroom pilot in Ohio City where Ohio City Inc., received funding for 10 port-a-potty trailers after experiencing human waste problems during the pandemic. FINALLY. And with all of the great city ambassadors keeping our streets clean around town, I trust these will be kept clean and working unlike some other cities that have installed them.
October 17, 2024Oct 17 Am l the only one who wonders why one of these toilets isn't placed on Public Square? There seems to be a number of people who appear to be homeless hanging around there along with anecdotal reports of people using the Square to do their business.
October 17, 2024Oct 17 ^The existing public restroom (on the outside / west side of Rebol) has been the focus. Once Downtown Cleveland, Inc. took over management of Public Square, keeping that restroom operational and clean has been a priority, so no need for an additional one.
October 17, 2024Oct 17 12 minutes ago, cadmen said: Am l the only one who wonders why one of these toilets isn't placed on Public Square? There seems to be a number of people who appear to be homeless hanging around there along with anecdotal reports of people using the Square to do their business. There is an entire video I watched on why America lacks behind places like Japan in available public restrooms. It mainly comes down to cultural/societal differences. Funny enough the bathroom shown in this article looks like the one she shows in the video. Why “Great” American Cities Have a Toilet Problem... Edited October 17, 2024Oct 17 by MyPhoneDead
October 17, 2024Oct 17 ”The city plans to install and own Loos in three locations: Canal Basin Park in the Flats, Perk Plaza on East 12th Street and the Virgil E. Brown Neighborhood Family Services Center on Payne Avenue." Not sure I agree with the placements. These seem like locations that get a lot of homeless activity and they are trying to relieve that issue. I'd rather them place it by the Fountain of Eternal Life (A lot of programming and visitors), Down at Voinovich Park (For the same reasons), the East Bank of the Flats close to the boardwalk.
October 17, 2024Oct 17 Well since they aren't all that expensive if these 3 are successful maybe the city adds a few more around downtown. Seems reasonable.
October 17, 2024Oct 17 Author There should be at least one on Public Square. Probably several, actually. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 17, 2024Oct 17 1 hour ago, PlanCleveland said: FINALLY. And with all of the great city ambassadors keeping our streets clean around town, I trust these will be kept clean and working unlike some other cities that have installed them. I sincerely hope you are being sarcastic. There is a massive difference between picking up the occasional litter and dealing with a restroom that has been used by someone with chemical dependency and/or mental issues. This is not to say the people using them will be like that. It just takes one. I didn't get paid enough to deal with that working at the bar, and I was allowed to control who came in. I suspect I made more than the ambassadors as well and I wonder if they have certified blood borne pathogen training.
October 17, 2024Oct 17 57 minutes ago, E Rocc said: I sincerely hope you are being sarcastic. There is a massive difference between picking up the occasional litter and dealing with a restroom that has been used by someone with chemical dependency and/or mental issues. This is not to say the people using them will be like that. It just takes one. I didn't get paid enough to deal with that working at the bar, and I was allowed to control who came in. I suspect I made more than the ambassadors as well and I wonder if they have certified blood borne pathogen training. I didn't specifically mean those ambassadors, I just meant that I trust they will be kept clean in general. Cleveland has a VERY clean Downtown compared to most US cities thanks to the people and planning in place. I don't think it's appreciated enough.
October 17, 2024Oct 17 3 hours ago, E Rocc said: As I have said before, Garrett Morgan Avenue would have been a better name all along. After all, his first traffic light was at one end. I even speculated they'd end up naming it after some politician. I just didn't expect it would be the same one as a nearby street. Our one area of agreement. I 100% endorse naming the road for Garret Morgan
October 17, 2024Oct 17 7 minutes ago, freefourur said: Our one area of agreement. I 100% endorse naming the road for Garret Morgan Never happen now, because it will be perceived as an insult to the Stokeses.
October 17, 2024Oct 17 16 minutes ago, PlanCleveland said: I didn't specifically mean those ambassadors, I just meant that I trust they will be kept clean in general. Cleveland has a VERY clean Downtown compared to most US cities thanks to the people and planning in place. I don't think it's appreciated enough. Oh, you are very correct about downtown in general but restrooms are a different matter entirely. If you've never seen what one person who doesn't give a d*m (leaving aside the obvious pun here) can do to a restroom in a very brief period of time, trust me when I say you don't want to. I was very fortunate that we had two restrooms for each gender and I could lock one if it got bad. My guess is they are underestimating the eventual maintenance costs by an order of magnitude.
October 17, 2024Oct 17 1 hour ago, E Rocc said: I sincerely hope you are being sarcastic. There is a massive difference between picking up the occasional litter and dealing with a restroom that has been used by someone with chemical dependency and/or mental issues. This is not to say the people using them will be like that. It just takes one. I didn't get paid enough to deal with that working at the bar, and I was allowed to control who came in. I suspect I made more than the ambassadors as well and I wonder if they have certified blood borne pathogen training. Frankly, there are better solutions.
October 17, 2024Oct 17 2 hours ago, MyPhoneDead said: What was the original name of East 105th street before we went to the numeric system? Lets just go with that name. Doan St—I looked it up. That would also be a cool nod to Doan's Corners
October 17, 2024Oct 17 5 hours ago, marty15 said: Opportunity Corridor is a ridiculous name imo. How about just 490 extension? Funny enough here in Texas, there's business highways that stretch from the highways through the city, I-20 has plenty of these I-20 Business monikers that stretch through many small Texan towns and smaller cities. But the problem is 490 doesn't touch the other end of 490, you could arguably say it would be I-90 Business, even though OC just barely gets up there.
October 18, 2024Oct 18 On 10/16/2024 at 8:19 PM, Boomerang_Brian said: Great idea! A new place to go in downtown Cleveland: city plans to install free public restrooms in 3 spots https://www.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2024/10/a-new-place-to-go-in-downtown-cleveland-city-plans-to-install-free-public-restrooms-in-3-spots.html CLEVELAND, Ohio -- New public restrooms could be coming to downtown Cleveland if approved by the Cleveland Planning Commission. The city of Cleveland will go before the planning commission Friday in hopes of bringing Portland Loo to the city. Portland Loo, designed in Portland, Oregon, are gender-neutral, freestanding public restrooms. According to a presentation sent to the commission, this comes after a successful restroom pilot in Ohio City where Ohio City Inc., received funding for 10 port-a-potty trailers after experiencing human waste problems during the pandemic. How is $145,000 cheaper than a port-a-potty? These things are just metal port-a-potties, right? There is no hookup to the public sewer? Interesting that they propose placing one at the (apparently) officially designated homeless camp on Payne Ave. So many questions. Does this also figure into why Cleveland didn't do the smart thing and rehabilitate the old Police Headquarters, with all its city owned property, and instead collaborated with the George family on purchasing the Art Craft building? That decision will come out in the wash eventually.
October 18, 2024Oct 18 Author @MVH There is a hook-up to a public sewer. The George family was not involved in the Art Craft building. They do own several neighboring buildings. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 18, 2024Oct 18 43 minutes ago, MVH said: How is $145,000 cheaper than a port-a-potty? These things are just metal port-a-potties, right? There is no hookup to the public sewer? Interesting that they propose placing one at the (apparently) officially designated homeless camp on Payne Ave. So many questions. Does this also figure into why Cleveland didn't do the smart thing and rehabilitate the old Police Headquarters, with all its city owned property, and instead collaborated with the George family on purchasing the Art Craft building? That decision will come out in the wash eventually. My understanding was that Homeland Security's requirements would have made it much more expensive to redo the old HQ than build fresh at ArtCraft.
October 18, 2024Oct 18 I work in HQ. I don't think any of you have the slightest clue how bad this building is. It has so many structural issues and just a terrible layout that can't be reconciled without significant cost. The art craft floors were a blank slate floor plan in a building that is pretty much a bomb shelter.
October 18, 2024Oct 18 Also, moving to the Art Craft building will allow CDP to unify operations which are currently spread out across the city.
October 18, 2024Oct 18 On 10/17/2024 at 9:47 AM, marty15 said: Opportunity Corridor is a ridiculous name imo. How about just 490 extension? Liberty Blvd would have been my choice, but I'm a little biased.
October 18, 2024Oct 18 Author 17 minutes ago, KFM44107 said: I work in HQ. I don't think any of you have the slightest clue how bad this building is. It has so many structural issues and just a terrible layout that can't be reconciled without significant cost. The art craft floors were a blank slate floor plan in a building that is pretty much a bomb shelter. Twenty years ago, I had to go to the third floor at CPD HQ every Monday morning to pick up the first and second district police report summaries from the prior week. The hallways, elevators and offices were a dismal mess. Duct tape was a common fix, stained ceiling tiles drooped and looked ready to fall, many of the lights didn't work, if there was more than one elevator working it was a good day, there were often buckets to catch overhead leaks and "slippery floor" folding signs set up nearby, and it was hot in summer and even hotter in winter except near the leaky windows. Again, that was 20 years ago. You have my sympathies @KFM44107. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 18, 2024Oct 18 But that was 20 years ago. They've had 20 years to fix up the place. I imagine it's beautiful now. Looks great when you're driving by.
October 18, 2024Oct 18 9 minutes ago, cadmen said: But that was 20 years ago. They've had 20 years to fix up the place. I imagine it's beautiful now. Looks great when you're driving by. On our gym unit floor you can see through the facade out to the outside because of the size of the cracks.
October 18, 2024Oct 18 Wait people are taking issue with giving new life to an old dilapidated building which features prominently from the highway?
October 18, 2024Oct 18 On 10/17/2024 at 9:47 AM, marty15 said: Opportunity Corridor is a ridiculous name imo. How about just 490 extension? Hollywood movies or big Silicon Valley tech projects, and really any big project, often use code names, prototype names, or nicknames when something is in development. That is what Opportunity Corridor is intended to be. It’s literally the name some transportation planner used when they put the first study together. The fact that nobody bothered to give it a real name when it became a reality is due to the magnificent leadership of perhaps the worst ever marketer in the history of politics, Mayor Frank G. Jackson. He thought he was so virtuous because he didn’t care about his image or looking slick but it hurt so much of the city’s self-image and national image simply because nobody was doing anything at all in that department. Edited October 18, 2024Oct 18 by mu2010
October 19, 2024Oct 19 Author Actually, transportation planners came up with the dull name University Circle Access Boulevard. It was the Cleveland Clinic that came up with the marketing name Opportunity Corridor to sell the idea that this was about developing opportunities in the neighborhoods where the road would be built. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 22, 2024Oct 22 I saw this in the latest Cleveland Planning Committee presentation. Two new hotels, Waterwalk by Wyndham (an extended stay hotel) and Springhill Suites by Marriott, as well as McDonalds and a new fast-casual restaurant are proposed next to the Orbit and Centaur across Brookpark Rd from NASA Glenn. It's the same development group that did the Orbit and Centaur, so I assume that means they're doing well. I think the restaurants will do great with the GRC lunch crowd and the hotels are very convenient to GRC, as well as the airport, and the football stadium if that happens. I know for a fact that a lot of overnight visitors to Glenn stay in the group of hotels along Country Club in North Olmsted, so having closer options will presumably bring some of that business back to the city of Cleveland.
October 23, 2024Oct 23 Author Feds search Sinito’s home; Owner of Millennia, Key Tower, apartments and restaurants By Ken Prendergast / October 23, 2024 The private home of the owner of some of Cleveland’s most well-known buildings and restaurants was searched today by federal investigators and assisted by local police in an ongoing matter involving the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). Frank Sinito and his wife Malisse reside at a mansion at 6736 Eagle Road in Waite Hill, in suburban Lake County. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/10/23/feds-search-sinitos-home-owner-of-millennia-key-tower-apartments-and-restaurants/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 23, 2024Oct 23 “Your misconduct is so serious and compelling as to affect your present responsibility,” Borum concluded. “Your misconduct affects the integrity of HUD’s multifamily programs because it jeopardizes the financial viability of the projects. The mismanagement of your properties risks the housing stability, and housing quality, of those tenant families.” Geez i wonder what this means for the future of the Centennial project.
October 23, 2024Oct 23 Author Good question. I should also put a link to the article in the Centennial thread. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 25, 2024Oct 25 Crap. Why can't these rich guys get rich honestly? This is not good for Cleveland development.
October 26, 2024Oct 26 Author Land Bank gets $5M for affordable homes By Ken Prendergast / October 26, 2024 Cuyahoga Land Bank has been awarded $4.95 Million from the Ohio Department of Development’s Welcome Home Ohio Program to support affordable housing development in the county. The funds will be used to create new, affordable homes in partnership with Cuyahoga County, CHN Housing Partners and Near West Land Trust. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/10/26/land-bank-gets-5m-for-affordable-homes/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 27, 2024Oct 27 On 10/24/2024 at 8:17 PM, cadmen said: Crap. Why can't these rich guys get rich honestly? This is not good for Cleveland development. It's difficult to obtain that level of wealth through legal means.
November 1, 2024Nov 1 There was a special presentation at today's CPC meeting on the cities Economic Incentive Scorecard (for projects over $250,000). The presentation has a lot of interesting information on the scorecard process. Scoring is subject to change as the city is still in a testing period. If/when implemented, this new method could greatly influence development patterns throughout the city. Here is the breakdown for a Mixed-Use project scoring (point categories largely overlap between the 4 main): Commercial and Industrial has an interesting additional scoring category of "Target Industry"
November 16, 2024Nov 16 Author In Cleveland, a Forgotten Streetcar Bridge Gets a Long-Awaited Lift Abandoned in the 1950s, the trolley level of the Detroit-Superior Bridge could soon be transformed into a “Low Line” public park, thanks to a federal grant. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-11-15/cleveland-low-line-sky-park-plan-promises-new-life-for-a-lost-bridge "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 17, 2024Nov 17 15 hours ago, KJP said: In Cleveland, a Forgotten Streetcar Bridge Gets a Long-Awaited Lift Abandoned in the 1950s, the trolley level of the Detroit-Superior Bridge could soon be transformed into a “Low Line” public park, thanks to a federal grant. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-11-15/cleveland-low-line-sky-park-plan-promises-new-life-for-a-lost-bridge I absolutely love that this is finally happening. But like me and a few others have said before, I see this turning into another project people point out as a failure by the city if it is not being policed every minute it is open. The women I know have all said they would continue to cross using the top of the bridge unless they are with others. I myself would probably continue to use the top of the bridge after dark. If you're out in the middle of that by yourself, it's a quarter mile in each direction with no one to help and no where to go. At least on top of the bridge you can run across the street, flag down cars, and have options to get help or get away. Edited November 17, 2024Nov 17 by PlanCleveland
November 17, 2024Nov 17 5 hours ago, PlanCleveland said: I absolutely love that this is finally happening. But like me and a few others have said before, I see this turning into another project people point out as a failure by the city if it is not being policed every minute it is open. The women I know have all said they would continue to cross using the top of the bridge unless they are with others. I myself would probably continue to use the top of the bridge after dark. If you're out in the middle of that by yourself, it's a quarter mile in each direction with no one to help and no where to go. At least on top of the bridge you can run across the street, flag down cars, and have options to get help or get away. Yeah, maybe close it down at night. I wouldn’t walk it at night either. And it would likely turn into a shelter for some folks.
November 17, 2024Nov 17 I know opening up the lower part of the bridge is popular on the forum, but I could probably come up with list of 20 public projects I would rather see secure a multi-million dollar grant.
November 17, 2024Nov 17 If Cleveland pedestrian activity was aligned more with something like Boston, or another more vibrant city, I could see myself using this. However, I envision this will be traversed by few therefore creating a rather "paranoid" feeling when being in the center of it. Maybe a poor choice of words, but you may get my point. Unless however Irishtown bend id developed, and delivers as expected, and spills over to this. Any event, the grant now will help aid in design development. Still a ways off until construction funding is procured.
November 17, 2024Nov 17 3 hours ago, marty15 said: Yeah, maybe close it down at night. I wouldn’t walk it at night either. And it would likely turn into a shelter for some folks. Right, it can't be keep open to the public 24/7. A shame we have to worry about such things, but it is what it is. I have mentioned previously that I'd like to see a trolley museum somewhere downtown. Perhaps this might be a location for it. They could have a few old working trolley cars running across the lower level for visitors to ride.
November 17, 2024Nov 17 37 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said: Right, it can't be keep open to the public 24/7. A shame we have to worry about such things, but it is what it is. I have mentioned previously that I'd like to see a trolley museum somewhere downtown. Perhaps this might be a location for it. They could have a few old working trolley cars running across the lower level for visitors to ride. Now that would be cool.
November 17, 2024Nov 17 4 hours ago, marty15 said: Yeah, maybe close it down at night. I wouldn’t walk it at night either. And it would likely turn into a shelter for some folks. Ya I'm guessing it would be sunrise to sunset hours outside of special events. I didn't word that very well, but I meant it to read as the women I mentioned have said they would not use it alone, or just with another female, even during the day.
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