February 21Feb 21 ^ Sweet! I was at the CC just last week and walked over to check out Fairfax Market (very good btw) and it was still ‘IBM’ My hovercraft is full of eels
February 21Feb 21 17 minutes ago, roman totale XVII said: ^ Sweet! I was at the CC just last week and walked over to check out Fairfax Market (very good btw) and it was still ‘IBM’ Yeah they changed it pretty quick lol. I hate how small it looks though 😭
February 22Feb 22 Yeah, they should call Progressive and ask them how to do it lol. Edited February 22Feb 22 by cadmen
February 24Feb 24 FWIW. I live in the near west side, my office is on the east side. I take the Shoreway to work daily. Coming over the Main Avenue bridge this morning, traffic was backed up half way across the bridge to get off the West 6th ramp. No accidents or anything. Like there was an event at the stadium. Haven’t seen this much traffic in the morning, heading into downtown since pre Covid. Maybe just a random one off, but encouraging nonetheless.
February 24Feb 24 4 minutes ago, marty15 said: FWIW. I live in the near west side, my office is on the east side. I take the Shoreway to work daily. Coming over the Main Avenue bridge this morning, traffic was backed up half way across the bridge to get off the West 6th ramp. No accidents or anything. Like there was an event at the stadium. Haven’t seen this much traffic in the morning, heading into downtown since pre Covid. Maybe just a random one off, but encouraging nonetheless. I believe there was an accident on Route 2 next to the off ramp on to E 9th. Fire trucks from what I could tell, showed up on the googs maps.
February 24Feb 24 22 minutes ago, marty15 said: FWIW. I live in the near west side, my office is on the east side. I take the Shoreway to work daily. Coming over the Main Avenue bridge this morning, traffic was backed up half way across the bridge to get off the West 6th ramp. No accidents or anything. Like there was an event at the stadium. Haven’t seen this much traffic in the morning, heading into downtown since pre Covid. Maybe just a random one off, but encouraging nonetheless. Maybe due to all those federal workers returning to the office. 😉
March 6Mar 6 On 2/24/2025 at 12:05 PM, LibertyBlvd said: Maybe due to all those federal workers returning to the office. 😉 Cleveland’s Celebrezze, Medina’s Pease federal buildings among those GSA may sell Updated: Mar. 05, 2025, 11:01 a.m. |Published: Mar. 05, 2025, 9:02 a.m. WASHINGTON, D. C. - Cleveland’s Anthony J. Celebrezze Federal Building and Medina’s Donald J. Pease Federal Building are among 320 properties around the nation that the federal government identified Tuesday as potential candidates for disposal, deeming them not core to federal operations. The federal agency that manages government real estate, the General Services Agency (GSA), put seven Ohio facilities on a list of properties it might sell to save money that was posted on Tuesday. https://www.cleveland.com/news/2025/03/clevelands-celebrezze-medinas-pease-federal-buildings-among-those-gsa-may-sell.html?e=04b384150ba93fa19e5b286d3d9842f4&lctg=5ecf21bc9770376d17022543
March 7Mar 7 Fencing at the Convention Center. https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/cleveland-hosts-fencing-competition-this-weekend-the-sport-not-whats-in-your-backyard
March 12Mar 12 Feels significant https://www.cleveland.com/news/2025/03/nasa-urged-to-move-headquarters-to-ohio-as-dc-lease-expires.html
March 12Mar 12 20 minutes ago, BoomerangCleRes said: Feels significant https://www.cleveland.com/news/2025/03/nasa-urged-to-move-headquarters-to-ohio-as-dc-lease-expires.html If they (NASA) would consider moving, Team NEO needs to throw everything INCLUDING the Kitchen sink at them. This would make up for us fumbling an opportunity with Intel. Hell tbh I would pitch two sites, NASA Glenn and if they don't like that one (for whatever reason) then Circle Square, his would be a good anchor tenant for their office building, could be built to suit their current needs, is located by CWRU etc. and has plenty of amenities that could be offered to post WFH office workers.
March 17Mar 17 Author Where Cleveland’s job-ready sites are assembling By Ken Prendergast / March 17, 2025 Digging through public records can reveal a lot of interesting things sometimes. One of those is where Cleveland’s new Site Readiness for Good Jobs Fund, Cuyahoga Land Bank and the city’s Department of Economic Development (ED) are focusing their efforts to assemble land for new employers. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2025/03/17/where-clevelands-job-ready-sites-are-assembling/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 17Mar 17 29 minutes ago, KJP said: Where Cleveland’s job-ready sites are assembling By Ken Prendergast / March 17, 2025 Digging through public records can reveal a lot of interesting things sometimes. One of those is where Cleveland’s new Site Readiness for Good Jobs Fund, Cuyahoga Land Bank and the city’s Department of Economic Development (ED) are focusing their efforts to assemble land for new employers. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2025/03/17/where-clevelands-job-ready-sites-are-assembling/ I think we're finding that the impact of the OC is going to be "as advertised" at least as much as it is a connection between UC/CC and points south and west. It's likely the best thing to happen to the city since LTV hot idled their furnaces. I'd like to see some additional reform of CERCLA vis a vis these sites as well, as well as tax benefits and/or regulatory exemptions for companies that locate there and get ISO 14000 certification. Edited March 17Mar 17 by E Rocc
March 19Mar 19 Author Cross-posted from the Cleveland Housing thread.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 26Mar 26 Author Another cross-post, this time about the Celebrezze Federal Building "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 27Mar 27 Oh Well. Since the thread is closed i am posting here. https://www.cleveland19.com/2025/03/27/nasa-headquarters-not-coming-cleveland/
March 27Mar 27 eh, this and the letter are not in conflict. not that I think they will move to cleveland.
March 27Mar 27 10 hours ago, KJP said: Another cross-post, this time about the Celebrezze Federal Building Any chance the Celebrezze Bldg could be put into play for the new courthouse complex? They could add a second building on the plaza area that consisted of the courtrooms and the existing tower for ancillary judges' needs
March 27Mar 27 2 hours ago, dave2017 said: Any chance the Celebrezze Bldg could be put into play for the new courthouse complex? They could add a second building on the plaza area that consisted of the courtrooms and the existing tower for ancillary judges' needs In theory - I love the idea. In practice, I have almost no confidence in the county's ability to achieve a long term conversion there. In particular, the security apparatus for transport from the jail to courtrooms would be a costly reconfiguration, and my gut tells me the county would sacrifice function and flow in any conversion attempt. Having said that, I'd rather let you rip off my finger nails than ever have to step foot in the current justice center again
March 27Mar 27 What is amazing is after all this time and alleged analysis, still no word where it is going to end up. Indeed there has been radio silence for a long time in connection with even where they are in the process of site selection. In the meantime. Tick Tick Tick. Costs just keep going up.
March 27Mar 27 Author Responding here "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 27Mar 27 On 3/17/2025 at 7:12 AM, KJP said: Where Cleveland’s job-ready sites are assembling By Ken Prendergast / March 17, 2025 Digging through public records can reveal a lot of interesting things sometimes. One of those is where Cleveland’s new Site Readiness for Good Jobs Fund, Cuyahoga Land Bank and the city’s Department of Economic Development (ED) are focusing their efforts to assemble land for new employers. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2025/03/17/where-clevelands-job-ready-sites-are-assembling/ When biking around the nooks and crannies of the city, I always wonder what google streetview drivers must be thinking haha. The Ashland site got me wondering - is the stables project dead? For a minute there (under Frank) they were moving quick-ish clearing the land and whatnot. Last time I was over there it was pretty quiet. Also I think I've posted some pics from National Acme - not much worth salvaging there but some parts downstairs have woodblock flooring - pretty neat (and probably highly toxic lol).
March 29Mar 29 https://www.cleveland.com/community/2025/03/cuyahoga-county-backing-live-music-with-formation-of-task-force-press-run.html Good summary article of recent developments around eastside CLE from Cleveland.com - figured I'd just throw them in the random dev chat: JCU enrollment continues to increase JCU received nearly 5,000 applications from across the country and became more selective this year, admitting about 3,600 students from 40 states. Accepted students have until May 1 to confirm their enrollment. This momentum follows JCU welcoming its largest incoming class in five years in 2024. Philanthropic support at JCU has also reached new heights, with donors contributing $24.7 million this year, up dramatically from $14.9 million last year. (Not mentioned in article, but the new JCU fieldhouse construction is progressing nicely, and all things according to plan, Gateway North on the circle should begin construction this May) NOACA community meeting coming up: The Northeast Ohio Area Coordinating Agency (NOACA) -- Greater Cleveland’s transportation and environmental planning agency -- will be holding an open house for Cleveland Heights residents to provide information about projects planned for the next few years. Residents are encouraged to attend and give feedback. The meeting will take place from 11:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. April 4 at the Lee Road Library branch, 2345 Lee Road. Registration is not required. Lee Rd Action Plan update: Engineering has begun for the Lee Road Complete Street Improvements project in Shaker Heights. City leadership and staff are involved with the design to ensure it fulfills the Plan’s vision. In February, the city, county, and the county’s engineering team (Chagrin Valley Engineering and SmithGroup) began with a walk of Lee Road, discussing the existing conditions and planned improvements. Later this spring, the city will invite residents, businesses, and the broader Shaker community to review preliminary plans and provide ideas as design begins on a three-lane roadway, bike infrastructure, and targeted streetscape improvements. Construction is planned for 2027. Arcadia Van Aken Construction is getting underway on Arcadia, a new mixed-use development at 3393 Warrensville Center Road. Expected to be completed at the end of 2026 Other various non-development things in article
March 31Mar 31 Author Two booms! One today and another tomorrow....... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 31Mar 31 Author Federal Building to be closed, agencies moved By Ken Prendergast / March 31, 2025 More than 4,000 federal employees based at Downtown Cleveland’s Anthony J. Celebrezze (AJC) Federal Building, 1240 E. 9th St., are reportedly going to be moved out of the 32-story office tower to privately owned office properties downtown in the next three years, followed by AJC’s closure, according to a spokesperson for Congresswoman Shontel Brown (D-11) who opposes the sudden move. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2025/03/31/federal-building-to-be-closed-agencies-moved/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 31Mar 31 6 minutes ago, KJP said: Federal Building to be closed, agencies moved By Ken Prendergast / March 31, 2025 More than 4,000 federal employees based at Downtown Cleveland’s Anthony J. Celebrezze (AJC) Federal Building, 1240 E. 9th St., are reportedly going to be moved out of the 32-story office tower to privately owned office properties downtown in the next three years, followed by AJC’s closure, according to a spokesperson for Congresswoman Shontel Brown (D-11) who opposes the sudden move. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2025/03/31/federal-building-to-be-closed-agencies-moved/ All I can do is say: "Lol"
March 31Mar 31 22 minutes ago, KJP said: Federal Building to be closed, agencies moved By Ken Prendergast / March 31, 2025 More than 4,000 federal employees based at Downtown Cleveland’s Anthony J. Celebrezze (AJC) Federal Building, 1240 E. 9th St., are reportedly going to be moved out of the 32-story office tower to privately owned office properties downtown in the next three years, followed by AJC’s closure, according to a spokesperson for Congresswoman Shontel Brown (D-11) who opposes the sudden move. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2025/03/31/federal-building-to-be-closed-agencies-moved/ I hope tomorrow's bomb is happy news...
March 31Mar 31 Author 2 minutes ago, PlanCleveland said: I hope tomorrow's bomb is happy news... It is. But this federal building situation *could* be a positive. Not saying it will. But it’s possible. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 31Mar 31 1 hour ago, KJP said: Federal Building to be closed, agencies moved By Ken Prendergast / March 31, 2025 More than 4,000 federal employees based at Downtown Cleveland’s Anthony J. Celebrezze (AJC) Federal Building, 1240 E. 9th St., are reportedly going to be moved out of the 32-story office tower to privately owned office properties downtown in the next three years, followed by AJC’s closure, according to a spokesperson for Congresswoman Shontel Brown (D-11) who opposes the sudden move. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2025/03/31/federal-building-to-be-closed-agencies-moved/ In a time where the County is facing budget issues, I can see them just moving over here. It would suck but I wouldn't blame them.
March 31Mar 31 Hi Ken @KJP Thanks for the detailed update. Looking forward to tomorrow's second 'bomb' article. $7M seems like reasonable estimate for plumbing repairs/replacement. However, I haven't seen a real accounting estimate of the $175M total backlog of building repairs cited. And if indeed this is accurate, why the heck would the city of Cleveland be interested in purchase even at fire sale price? Something seems off about the decision.
March 31Mar 31 I work in this building occasionally and the water fountains have been blocked off for years. You are not allowed to drink the water in the plumbing
April 1Apr 1 2 hours ago, MyPhoneDead said: In a time where the County is facing budget issues, I can see them just moving over here. It would suck but I wouldn't blame them. If structurally sound, and if it could be rebuilt on the inside to meet the Courthouse needs for substantially less than the $400-700 million or higher earlier estimates of other proposals, and if GSA would transfer to the County (per KJP's story - “As a Public Benefit Conveyance, the property can be substantially discounted in price — up to 100 percent reduction in fair market value — if it is used for a qualified public use.”) - then it deserves a serious look on behalf of taxpayers.
April 1Apr 1 Author 13 hours ago, DO_Summers said: Hi Ken @KJP Thanks for the detailed update. Looking forward to tomorrow's second 'bomb' article. $7M seems like reasonable estimate for plumbing repairs/replacement. However, I haven't seen a real accounting estimate of the $175M total backlog of building repairs cited. And if indeed this is accurate, why the heck would the city of Cleveland be interested in purchase even at fire sale price? Something seems off about the decision. I asked the congresswoman's staff for a breakdown of the $175 million but they didn't have it either. That was a figure from the GSA and they didn't respond to my inquiry. If it's a legit number, I suspect it's more than just the plumbing, but the whole M-E-P (mechanical - electrical - plumbing) mix. And this apparently doesn't include the $72 million non-MEP renovation planned in 2019. I can't find any records to indicate that work was ever done. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 1Apr 1 This sounds exactly like what the Cleveland School Board did. They are now renting space at 1111 Superior. I don't see how they will find space to rent that meets the security requirements that necessitated a $121M facade renovation.
April 1Apr 1 16 hours ago, KJP said: It is. But this federal building situation *could* be a positive. Not saying it will. But it’s possible. This *could* be a good spot for a courthouse!
April 1Apr 1 Since the timeline is 3 years is there a chance this is a process that could be stopped or a decision that can be reversed? The idea that I can trust anyone in this administration when they're saying something like "committed at keeping the jobs downtown" is laughable. I can see it now, "oh we really tried so hard to keep everyone in downtown cleveland, but you see half the jobs had to go to south Carolina! And the other half, well the real estate was just so much cheaper in the suburbs so we were obligated to take them out there. Hey, at least kept some workers in NEO. Promises made, promises kept.. right?" In spite of all the headwinds these last few years I managed to be so bullish on cleveland but between tariffs, asinine program cutting, general tomfoolery and now this. Its Like this presidential administration specifically hates cleveland.
April 1Apr 1 7 minutes ago, FutureboyWonder said: Since the timeline is 3 years is there a chance this is a process that could be stopped or a decision that can be reversed? The idea that I can trust anyone in this administration when they're saying something like "committed at keeping the jobs downtown" is laughable. In spite of all the headwinds these last few years I managed to be so bullish on cleveland but between tariffs, asinine program cutting, general tomfoolery and now this. Its Like this presidential administration specifically hates cleveland. I feel like it is 3 years because they want to get this ridiculous idea done before a new administration comes in (unless they try to hijack the office). I also think they don't hate Cleveland I think they hate the cities (blue cities) that took a stance against their ridiculous demands and ideals.
April 1Apr 1 14 minutes ago, FutureboyWonder said: the real estate was just so much cheaper in the suburbs Legitimate question...why is real estate in the suburbs so much cheaper? Historically, land in the City was expensive because that's where everyone wanted or needed to be. In 1950, three fourths of the county lived in Cleveland. Today the ratio has reversed, with three fourths living in the suburbs. Companies are leaving downtown, and people (outside of this forum) are constantly (and ignorantly) complaining about things like crime and parking in the City. So if the suburbs are so desirable to so many people, why is the land still so cheap?
April 1Apr 1 15 minutes ago, Dino said: Legitimate question...why is real estate in the suburbs so much cheaper? Historically, land in the City was expensive because that's where everyone wanted or needed to be. In 1950, three fourths of the county lived in Cleveland. Today the ratio has reversed, with three fourths living in the suburbs. Companies are leaving downtown, and people (outside of this forum) are constantly (and ignorantly) complaining about things like crime and parking in the City. So if the suburbs are so desirable to so many people, why is the land still so cheap? I'm guessing because it doesn't require remediation of any kind (for the most part) and large swaths of undeveloped land vs trying to assemble in the city.
April 1Apr 1 16 hours ago, DO_Summers said: Hi Ken @KJP Thanks for the detailed update. Looking forward to tomorrow's second 'bomb' article. $7M seems like reasonable estimate for plumbing repairs/replacement. However, I haven't seen a real accounting estimate of the $175M total backlog of building repairs cited. And if indeed this is accurate, why the heck would the city of Cleveland be interested in purchase even at fire sale price? Something seems off about the decision. Isn't deferred maintenance often a calculated number, based on original cost and time depreciation? I wonder if the $175 million number has been audited for actual need. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
April 1Apr 1 14 hours ago, Willo said: If structurally sound, and if it could be rebuilt on the inside to meet the Courthouse needs for substantially less than the $400-700 million or higher earlier estimates of other proposals, and if GSA would transfer to the County (per KJP's story - “As a Public Benefit Conveyance, the property can be substantially discounted in price — up to 100 percent reduction in fair market value — if it is used for a qualified public use.”) - then it deserves a serious look on behalf of taxpayers. I don’t see how this would be any cheaper than renovating the existing justice center. The only positive being not having to operate the building while you’re working on it. I’d expect the costs to be extremely substantial. But obviously worth checking into. If the county doesn’t want this building, who will? There was a recent PD article with real estate experts saying they can’t think of who would want this thing.
April 1Apr 1 they should have built new instead of doing a glass curtain in 2010, but 20/20 and all... maybe the money could work if the county acquires it basically for free and try to sell the current courthouse land. isn't there a thread for the federal building?
April 2Apr 2 On 3/31/2025 at 5:17 PM, KJP said: Two booms! One today and another tomorrow....... Was the second bomb the Browns article?
April 2Apr 2 1 hour ago, JB said: Was the second bomb the Browns article? Maybe the Shoreway Tower construction?
April 2Apr 2 11 hours ago, JB said: Was the second bomb the Browns article? Wasn't the second bomb news of the beginning of construction of the Shoreway Tower posted in the Detroit/Shoreway thread?
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