^Convenient that you no longer have to break into forclosed homes to get 60 year old tile and cabinets at a bargain price. But I'm sure people would miss the thrill. Do they sell piles of mangled copper pipe by chance?

^Convenient that you no longer have to break into forclosed homes to get 60 year old tile and cabinets at a bargain price. But I'm sure people would miss the thrill. Do they sell piles of mangled copper pipe by chance?

Who would take the cabinets?  An entire block of tiles, maybe.

Anyone know what's going in at the southwest part of I-71 and Route 82 in Strongsville?  I was out there for a seminar this evening, and was disappointed to find acres and acres of forest clearcut to make way for something.

Last week, developers Doug Price, Scott Wolstein, and Nathan Zaremba spoke at a City Club panel discussion titled "Cleveland Plus: Turning the Corner in Downtown Cleveland". It was the first talk in the four-part "Cleveland Plus: Turning the Corner" series.

 

The next event will be a panel discussion about University Circle developments on July 23.

 

[mp3=200,20,0,center]http://cityclubpodcast.optiem.com/CityClubPodcast-080423.mp3[/mp3]

 

They discuss:

 

• their collective plans for their upcoming projects (Uptown project plans will be revealed in 30-60 days, 668 Euclid will begin next month)
  
• Public-private partnerships, and how they can benefit and affect Cleveland's development in the future
  
• Their thoughts on future development/economic viability and lakefront development (including the Eaton development)
  

Anyone know what's going in at the southwest part of I-71 and Route 82 in Strongsville?  I was out there for a seminar this evening, and was disappointed to find acres and acres of forest clearcut to make way for something.

 

I believe it is a Costco...

 

...Welcome to Costco, I love you...

                     

^They even knocked down a local restaurant called maybe Demetrios? Started with a D anyway. I heard they just leased the land so the developer waited until the lease ran out and came in and demolished it!

I wondered what was going on there.  They have demolished a huge amount of the forest that was there.

I can assure you that is nothing compared to what was cut down for all the development that is there now (South Park, etc). At I-71 and SR 82 there was a SOHIO and Amoco and that was about it.

So sad, the deer will eventually be forced onto I-71 and die because everyone in suburbia needed to save a few bucks in a club...

^ I'm sure that there will be some stormwater and runoff issues as well.  It always looked like there was bad erosion near the highway exit, and that was with the forest intact.

Cleveland eyes programs, promotions to attract, grow business

Posted by Grant Segall April 29, 2008 15:01PM

Categories: Breaking News, Business Impact

 

Cleveland city officials unveiled several promotions and programs this morning aimed at helping businesses come to town and grow...

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/04/cleveland_eyes_programs_promot.html

^They even knocked down a local restaurant called maybe Demetrios? Started with a D anyway. I heard they just leased the land so the developer waited until the lease ran out and came in and demolished it!

 

Yes, it was Demetrio's, the former "Mr. Steak" from years ago.  It will be a Costco and a Best Buy with outlots available.

I loved Demetrio's. Well, I don't go to Strongsville anymore as most of my family has been moving closer into the city in recent years.

^They even knocked down a local restaurant called maybe Demetrios? Started with a D anyway. I heard they just leased the land so the developer waited until the lease ran out and came in and demolished it!

 

Yes, it was Demetrio's, the former "Mr. Steak" from years ago.  It will be a Costco and a Best Buy with outlots available.

 

Nothing says "quality development", quite like "outlots"

I work in Strongsville and I was thinking that what was really missing is a chain restaurant. Maybe it will be the 3rd Panera on Route 82!

This has no chance of happening...hopefully

 

Strip club looking at site near Progressive Field

Posted by Gabriel Baird May 06, 2008 12:35PM

Categories: Breaking News

A strip-club owner wants to bring adult dancing closer to the heart of Cleveland -- next to Progressive Field and Quicken Loans Arena...

 

Hopefully.  I thought for sure this comment was from Peabody... :wink:

 

Posted by dwntwndude on 05/06/08 at 12:47PM

Well Cimperman sure isn't consistent. He wasn't opposed to putting the Hustler club close to families homes when he supported the move to the west bank of the flats but he opposes the family friendly environment. Big Business is more important than his constituents obviously.

 

If it's the same owner as the old Executives Den strip club that was next to I-90 at the Euclid-Cleveland line, then the new Executives Den should be fought. The old place was quite the mob hangout.

Hopefully. I thought for sure this comment was from Peabody... :wink:

 

Posted by dwntwndude on 05/06/08 at 12:47PM

Well Cimperman sure isn't consistent. He wasn't opposed to putting the Hustler club close to families homes when he supported the move to the west bank of the flats but he opposes the family friendly environment. Big Business is more important than his constituents obviously.

 

Here is another way to look at it: Cimperman helped make a $500 million dollar mixed-used, TOD development happen by striking a deal to move a strip club from the middle of the future home of 1 million sq ft of corporate office space, 600 units of housing, a public park and tons of entertainment establishments over a bridge, under a bridge, and around the corner from another successful housing development that is not as important to the city's future.

 

 

Anyone heard of the Waterfront Rapid Line being looped around and connected through Downtown or it heading off to Bratenahl? This issue has died, it seems.

Anyone heard of the Waterfront Rapid Line being looped around and connected through Downtown or it heading off to Bratenahl? This issue has died, it seems.

 

When was it "born"??

 

Clevelguy, welcome, and I'd like to suggest reading familiarising yourself with UO and as transportion issues are discussed in the transportation section of urbanohio.

It was 'born' soon after it was completed. The talk back then was to loop it back around downtown. Also heard of it being extended to bratenahl.

It was 'born' soon after it was completed. The talk back then was to loop it back around downtown. Also heard of it being extended to bratenahl.

 

I've never "heard" or "seen" any concrete plans.  I confident that was all just speculation.

 

Now if you can provide some information, that says otherwise, I'll be happy to educate myself.

I have "heard" of turning the WFL into a downtown loop.  But as far as I know it has always been just that... talk.  Never any sort of "plans".

^how exactly would this happen?  where would the "loop" exist?  east along lakeside, south down east 12th, finally back west along Superior, connecting by Settlers landing?

 

To 'educate yourself', try going to the GCRTA site to see general information on the Waterfront line extension.

 

By the way, just beacuse you haven't 'heard or seen any concrete plans' does not mean that it is 'just all specualtion'.

Hey ClevelGuy -- I do remember this being mentioned in the RTA Transit 2025 plan.  I took a quick look and found some of the relevant language.  The link and an excerpt are below.  Beyond this, I haven't heard anything and it would probably be best to ask JMasek from RTA in the following thread:  http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,14015.1020

 

http://www.gcrta.org/pdf/transit2025/Transit_2025_March_2006_Final_ch4.pdf

 

"2010-2025 Major Investment Project Descriptions

This section briefly describes key RTA system expansion projects that would likely be

constructed beyond the 2005-2009 RTA Capital Improvement Plan horizon. These

projects would address future travel needs and may move ahead if the region anticipates

positive growth over the long term.(more in this section if you use the link above)

 

 

Waterfront Line Extension

 

This project would extend the Waterfront Line (WFL) from its current terminus near the

Cleveland Municipal Parking lot near the Shoreway and E. 13th Street. The purpose

would be to improve downtown access to RTA's rail system in downtown Cleveland.

One alignment being considered extends the line southeast from its current terminus

through Downtown past Playhouse Square and Tri-C's main campus, where it would

reconnect with the Red/Blue/Green Line Joint Area in the vicinity of E. 30th Street and

the Main Post Office.

 

This extension would “complete the loop” initiated by the Waterfront Line segment built

in 1996 and help establish a more effective downtown transit distribution system. The

initial alignment options would link the Euclid Corridor Transportation Project (ECTP), a

BRT project, with the Flats, a new convention center, North Coast Harbor, Playhouse

Square, Cleveland State University and Cuyahoga Community College.

 

The Alternative's Analysis study for this extension has been completed. The Locally

Preferred Alternative (LPA) process has not started because of a major planning effort

currently underway along the Lakefront. The Waterfront Line is a vital part of that plan

and further study of its extension will proceed after the City comes to a consensus on

what the Lakefront plan will be. The current City of Cleveland administration will assist

in determining its future. Additionally, Cleveland's Lakefront Plan is considering

extending the Waterfront Line east along the lakefront as far as East 88th Street and

possibly out to Collinwood, where significant public and private sector development

investments continue to be targeted. This extension is illustrated in the Chapter 1

section describing plans by others. This alternative was not included in RTA’s

Waterfront Line Extension study and would need a separate FTA-compliant evaluation."

again, we've talked about "the loop" in the transporation thread.  And all its been is talk and speculation.

 

Why are we discussing this here?  :?

I started a new thread here.......

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,16059.msg283069.html#msg283069

 

I'll be happy to answer any questions as best I can about a Waterfront Line extension.

 

Let's keep this thread to random developments regarding new/rehab buildings, neighborhood plans etc.

Does anyone know (1) the name of the building below and (2) why all the windows are missing from the prospect side/what are they doing to this building?

 

 

That's the parking garage for the halle building.  The windows may have gone the way of the dodo over the years, but it's always been a parking garage and probably always will be.  It really needs some love though.

That's the Halle's Annex. It's used as a parking garage today.

 

Edit: it wasn't always a parking garage. It was built as a warehouse and bulk "showroom" (probably not the best description) for Halle's and had an underground walkway below Huron to the main Halle's store. My father used to walk through it when he was a boy in the 1930s and into the 1940s.

^So does the parking lot use up the whole building?

 

That would explain why the windows are gone. From the outside I would not have guessed the higher floors would be garage, but I guess if it was built to be sturdy, anything is possible. The open windows really give it a "bombed out" look that made me a little wary when I was considering the Joshua Hall building across the street on Prospect.

the whole thing is a parking garage. it looks just as bad in the actual garage as it does from the outside.

 

That's the Halle's Annex. It's used as a parking garage today.

 

Edit: it wasn't always a parking garage. It was built as a warehouse and bulk "showroom" (probably not the best description) for Halle's and had an underground walkway below Huron to the main Halle's store. My father used to walk through it when he was a boy in the 1930s and into the 1940s.

 

Wow. I didn't know that, it has been a parking garage as long as I ever remember... The walkway though is still operational.  I take it from time to time if the weather is particuarly crappy.

Here's a lil article on the Halle Annex that I love

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,736763,00.html

Last week there opened in Cleveland the vast annex to Halle Bros, department store.

 

Halle Bros, is one of perhaps a dozen stores known to department store men throughout the U. S. for excellency of merchandise and of service. It is to its selling region (which extends from western New York and Pennsylvania across northern Ohio to Indiana) what B. Altman & Co. and Lord & Taylor are to Manhattan; what Wanamaker's is to Philadelphia; R. H. Stearns to Boston; Marshall Field's to Chicago; White House to San Francisco; Bullock's to Los Angeles; Maison Blanche to New Orleans...

 

man do i wish they had some pictures

When no Cleveland merchant dared to try to open a store more than nine blocks from the Cleveland Public Square

 

Interesting line...

 

Another random questions, I searched around and didn't find anything, but what is going up next to Tri-C off of 77? 

I wonder if it's RRHOF construction

When no Cleveland merchant dared to try to open a store more than nine blocks from the Cleveland Public Square

 

Interesting line...

 

Another random questions, I searched around and didn't find anything, but what is going up next to Tri-C off of 77? 

 

Back then, the area around the Rose Building (aka Medical Mutual at East 9th and Prospect/Huron) was called "New Center" and people thought the builder was out of his mind for being SO far removed from the center of downtown - sounds like some other current projects ;-)

 

Yes, the construction at Tri-C is the Rock Hall archive/classroom thingyamajig.

Back then, the area around the Rose Building (aka Medical Mutual at East 9th and Prospect/Huron) was called "New Center" and people thought the builder was out of his mind for being SO far removed from the center of downtown - sounds like some other current projects ;-)

 

That is why the building was nicknamed Rose's Folley.  :wink:

It is.......

 

Cuyahoga Community College (Tri-C) and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame + Museum are working together to create a center for the study of American music. The 78,000 sq-ft building is expected to cost about $20 million, and would be built facing Woodland Ave. and I-77, on a piece of land where the campus' satellite dishes are currently located. The initial design is by Cleveland's Robert P. Madison International architectural group.

_____________________

 

http://www.wkyc.com/news/rss_article.aspx?ref=RSS&storyid=76803

 

Tri-C and Rock Hall officials kick off construction of unique building

 

Created: 10/25/2007 5:26:35 PM

Updated:10/25/2007 5:47:58 PM

 

CLEVELAND -- Cuyahoga Community College President Dr. Jerry Sue Thorton, Rock Hall CEO Terry Stewart, and Mayor Frank Jackson broke ground Thursday for the new Center for Creative Arts building on Tri-C?s Metro Campus...

 

_____________________

 

From a press release.....

 

The joint project of Tri-C and the Rock Hall will feature 75,000 square feet of space that will enable the College's media arts, recording arts technology, music, theatre/dance, animation and other creative arts programs to be together in the same building. The Center for Creative Arts will also create the Rock Hall's library and archives, the most comprehensive repository of written, oral, audio and video materials relevant to the history of rock and roll.

 

"The Center for Creative Arts will establish a unique creative environment at Cuyahoga Community College," said Tri-C President Thornton. "The Center will be the foundation of artistic study at the College, and will allow us to centralize our creative pursuits, programs and facilities under one roof."

 

"The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has always sought to preserve and celebrate the spirit of rock and roll to make Cleveland a destination for fans and scholars from around the world," said Terry Stewart, president and CEO of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum. "This new Library and Archives will help us achieve our next significant milestone, to make Cleveland the premier location for scholarly study and cultural appreciation of rock and roll music."

From the Time article MTS posted above, I love this line:

 

"Euclid Ave., then as now the one and only Cleveland thoroughfare with a semblance of metropolitan smartness."

By the way work on replacement of the windows at the halle building has moved onto the Huron Rd. side.  I'm starting to wonder how big the scope of this project is (will they move to the upper floors?), and if (hopefully) they will eventually at least paint the window frames on the Prospect side of the annex (garage)... that made a huge difference in the way that garage appears from the street on the Huron side.

Kinda sorta fits here, since they'll be part of the cityscape for two years. New public art installation on Mall B:

 

 

They already have a few fans:

 

Image and info from clevelandpublicart.org:

http://www.clevelandpublicart.org/mallb.asp

 

 

Peter North and Alissa North of North Design Office were selected by a panel of art, design, and civic leaders to transform Mall B for the next two years. The selection panel was impressed the Norths' design because they innovatively linked Cleveland's industrial heritage with its goals for an environmentally sustainable future. The design interacts with the lakefront and connects to the wind turbine in a way that is visually engaging while encouraging viewers to reconsider how the cityscape is connected to the natural resources that shape it.

 

In the words of the artists, the "strips of dynamic grasses celebrate the inseparability of Cleveland to the Cuyahoga River, and its waterfront location on Lake Erie. Alluding to moving water, and responding to wind and weather, the linear patterning of grasses recounts the cargo ships that line the river as the lifeblood of Cleveland.....The fabricated steel frames are derived from the city's renowned relationship to the steel industry. The forms are fluid and organic in nature to capture the sense of evolution toward green technologies."

..............

 

Interesting, but I think I prefer the stylized urns by Brian Tolle:

I worry that those pods are a bit delicate for outdoor public art.  I wonder how they will hold up to the weather and potential vandals.

Huh, I rather like those.  I bet they'll look brilliant in mid-winter.

I'm sure they are made to withstand the elements.

Hmm...I think I've seen these pods before.

 

Ladies and gentlemen, please turn your volume to 11...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8JG6kgEP6c&hl=en

I worry that those pods are a bit delicate for outdoor public art.  I wonder how they will hold up to the weather and potential vandals.

 

Cleveland Public Art knows what they are doing. I'd trust their judgment regarding weather and wear and tear.

True, and honestly I'm not as worried by the weather and natural wear and tear as I am by the potential for vandalism.  It only takes one punk with a razor and a lack of appreciation for eco-themed art to ruin this.