Now if we can just get Milton Manor to clean up its act. :police:

What is being built to the west of the Agora on the south side of Euclid.  It is across the street from an RTA garage I think.

Also, not sure what category this should go under, but does anyone know when the Google Street view was taken.  I assumed it was a weekend in October based on Jacobs Field having the banners around the outside for the playoffs, but I cannot figure out the exact date.

What is being built to the west of the Agora on the south side of Euclid.  It is across the street from an RTA garage I think.

 

A garage is being renovated to house offices for a law firm. 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,7901.msg238519.html#msg238519

What is being built to the west of the Agora on the south side of Euclid. It is across the street from an RTA garage I think.

 

If you mean the one set back a bit from the street, that's going to be a law office.  I forget the firm but I believe they're coming from Terminal Tower.  The space in front of the building will eventually have another office building.  Until they build that it will be greenspace.  I once lived near the site and the developers told us all this in a letter.

What is being built to the west of the Agora on the south side of Euclid.  It is across the street from an RTA garage I think.

 

A garage is being renovated to house offices for a law firm. 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,7901.msg238519.html#msg238519

 

What is being built to the west of the Agora on the south side of Euclid.  It is across the street from an RTA garage I think.

 

If you mean the one set back a bit from the street, that's going to be a law office.  I forget the firm but I believe they're coming from Terminal Tower.  The space in front of the building will eventually have another office building.  Until they build that it will be greenspace.  I once lived near the site and the developers told us all this in a letter.

 

Much thanks.

Also, not sure what category this should go under, but does anyone know when the Google Street view was taken. I assumed it was a weekend in October based on Jacobs Field having the banners around the outside for the playoffs, but I cannot figure out the exact date.

It appears to have been taken over a period of a few weeks (if not longer) and a few places have been updated over the summer.

I was going to put this in non-ohio projects, but I don't think that gets enough looks.  Replacing "Detroit" with "Cleveland" works well also.

 

Zago's Credo: Detroit Deserves Amazing Design

 

http://www.modeldmedia.com/features/zago16908.aspx

 

For Andrew Zago, space is a serious place. Not that you can't have fun there, too. The architect, who was born in Detroit and educated at the University of Michigan, started his engaging professional trajectory at Harvard's Graduate School of Design and has kept rising into lectureships, studio and faculty positions in New York and Los Angeles. With various major projects under construction or looming, Zago is an authentic international art and design star.

 

With the edgy, urban and intriguing designs for places like Midtown's Museum of Contemporary Art Detroit and Corktown's Mercury Bar show, Detroit is benefiting. Detroit needs -- no, make that deserves, good design, Zago says.

 

When we started our conversation with Zago in the summer of 2007, he was commuting from Detroit to New York. Two hours in his Midtown studio were largely spent reminiscing about the Detroit music scene of the late 1970s and early 1980s, when Zago would come over from Ann Arbor to see punk and new wave shows at Bookie's Club on W. McNichols. When we saw him again it was 15 months later on a sunny October afternoon at the corner of Michigan and 14th St., where his design work put the punctuation mark on the long in the works Mercury Coffee Bar project. Now he commutes to LA's SCI-Arc and his West Coast office, but his plain-speak, jargon-free but colorful design talk remains unchanged.

 

A brief history of guerilla architecture

 

Zago, 50, first got on the national radar in 1997, when he was awarded the Rome Prize, given annually to 15 emerging artists in various disciplines. Five years later, he was appointed director of the City College of New York Master of Architecture program. Zago has also taught at Cornell, Ohio State, UCLA and currently at the Southern California Institute of Architecture (better known as SCI-Arc). He also maintains offices for Zago Architecture in Detroit and Los Angeles, and was recently named a fellow by United States Artists, an artist-advocacy organization dedicated to supporting America's best artists by providing unrestricted cash grants.

 

In 2006, Zago made headlines in the New York Times (and, not to be remiss, in Model D) for his design work on MOCAD. Nicolai Ouroussoff of the Times wrote that Zago recast the former auto dealership by employing "an intentionally raw aesthetic … conceived as an act of guerilla architecture, one that accepts decay as fact rather than attempt to create a false vision of density."

 

In the same story, Zago said he wasn't trying to romanticize industrial decline, as many here do by default, but reveal Detroit's "depth of character, real substance and integrity. While you want to do away with the problems you don't want to lose that quality."

 

Conceptual purity

 

Back at the Mercury Coffee Bar, Zago uses the word "modest" to describe his work there, where he attempted to create an environment, a sustained mood, through "conceptual purity" and by giving the floor, walls and ceiling light treatments through color.

 

The scheme is simple: cyan, magenta and yellow flows throughout the main floor of the space. There are irregularly shaped countertops, floating slabs and curved shelving (much of it fabricated by Detroit metal and woodworks collective Dormouse), tables and chairs, and huge windows that bring in spectacular views to the southwest (the old Michigan Central Train Station) the west (Roosevelt Park) and north across Michigan to Slow's Bar BQ.

 

Zago says he set up the approach into the Mercury as "a separation from the street and into a funhouse ..." In the southwest corner of the space a a wooden staircase leads you into a something "more natural," a basement with exposed brick, more tables and chairs for dining and coffee drinking, and a bar still in the works that will offer beer and wine sometime in the new year. 

 

He says he works on a principle that Detroit deserves "rigorous and progressive architecture" and needs to "lose the attitude that if we just build something, it's good enough." Print that quote and put it under a refrigerator magnet.

 

Third Wave for social change

 

The next day Zago delivers a guest lecture at the University of Detroit Mercy School of Architecture. The room overflows with students, instructors and curious design nerds as he mixes his multi-media presentation with slides of his projects, including competition entries for buildings in China and Sweden, and the occasional well-timed, self-tickling tangent — like showing the cover art for Iggy Pop's The Idiot LP. No we weren't sure what it meant, but it was great all the same. Also screened was a slow-moving, hallucinatory and panoramic film consisting of Detroit landscapes.

 

In his talk, Zago brings up the notion of a third wave of coffee bars; the first wave being the generic nighthawk diner, the second a living room model and the third … something that has evolved into, well, a place much like the Mercury Coffee Bar, where awesome design values are married to an equally awesome coffee and food experience.

 

And how is that marriage going? So far so very good, says MCB partner Todd Wickstrom, who once wanted to be a doctor but decided to work even harder it appears and become a catalyst for social change as a foodie/entrepreneur.

 

Wickstrom has run jazz and BBQ joints in Kansas City, owned bakery franchises in Chicago and was a managing partner at Ann Arbor's Zingerman's Deli. He also helped start Heritage Foods USA, a company that promotes independent family farms, human production and genetic diversity.

 

Neighborhood gateway

 

At MCB, Wickstrom has fashioned a menu that includes a changing selection of sandwiches, panini, salads and soups, breakfast choices (like smoked salmon with tomato, onion, capers and cream cheese), a variety of espresso drinks (try the cute piccolo, equivalent to a mini latte) and three kinds of slow coffees – El Salvador los Immortales, Honduras la Tortuga and Kenya Ndaroini. Or have a fast coffee, called the El Diablo, in small or large sizes. The coffee comes from Chicago's Intelligentsia, which Wickstrom and Zago each separately call "the best in the world."

 

Wickstrom says the first goal is to create a profitable business with a majority of the items on the menu eventually grown or raised here. A larger goal of the business is to bring 1,000 jobs to the area over a 20-year period based around fresh and healthy food cultivated in Detroit. He says when it's all tallied up, about $500,000 has gone into starting up the Mercury Bar project.

 

"There is really a social mission at work here," Wickstrom says. "We see food as a way to economic development. I look out at Roosevelt Park and see a cool neighborhood emerging, a gateway between Corktown and Southwest Detroit. Andrew understands this thoroughly, which is why what he's doing with architecture and what we're doing with food is perfectly in sync."

 

Does anybody know what is going up just north of the shopping center (and just south of the RR tracks) near the intersection of Green Rd and Euclid Ave?

 

Whatever it is, it has got some significant size to it.

 

I believe it is on the parcel surrounded by Catalpa, Avalon and Roseland.  I can't imagine the last time anything was built in that particular neighborhood.

Since the Flats East thread is closed I just had a question about whether anyone knows if the 1 Hotel and Residences is still planning on being built or if it was ever seriously considered as part of the plan.

Civil War artifacts find a new home on Public Square

Posted by Grant Segall/Plain Dealer Reporter November 30, 2008 19:30PM

Categories: Real Time News

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/11/civil_war_artifacts_find_a_new.html

 

Showcase of the Soldiers and Sailors Monument: 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. weekdays, second-floor atrium, 200 Public Square. Admission is free.

 

Showcase will host a Victorian Christmas celebration Friday, 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. For more information, go to www.soldiersandsailors.com or call 216-621-3746.

 

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/11/large_timothy-daley.jpg

 

Lisa DeJong/The Plain Dealer

Timothy Daley, executive director of the Soldiers and Sailors Monument, talks about the new renovations that will be happening inside the monument in Public Square.

 

For 104 years, Cleveland's beloved Soldiers and Sailors Monument has doubled as a crammed Civil War museum...

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/11/medium_soldiers-and-sailors-monument-cleveland.jpg

Lisa DeJong/The Plain Dealer

From the Soldiers and Sailors Monument, this is the west panel of the governors and most prominent major generals of Ohio during the Civil War.

 

Does anybody know what is going on at the northwest corner of Carnegie and E 83rd (across from the Playhouse parking lot)?  It does not look like anything major but I was just interested.

Does anybody know what is going up just north of the shopping center (and just south of the RR tracks) near the intersection of Green Rd and Euclid Ave?

 

Whatever it is, it has got some significant size to it.

 

I believe it is on the parcel surrounded by Catalpa, Avalon and Roseland.  I can't imagine the last time anything was built in that particular neighborhood.

 

I drove by again and saw the sign.  It is a new senior living facility.  Kind of a weird location for that type of place.  It will be called Village Green.... no doubt the same FCE off-shoot that built the apartments on Amhearst Dr. behind Beachwood mall which were once called Village Green Apartments (until the first fire) then changed to Verdant at the Village (until the second fire) and is now called Easthaven.  REALLY cheap construction methods are used in these buildings IMO.

Does anybody know what is going up just north of the shopping center (and just south of the RR tracks) near the intersection of Green Rd and Euclid Ave?

 

Whatever it is, it has got some significant size to it.

 

I believe it is on the parcel surrounded by Catalpa, Avalon and Roseland.  I can't imagine the last time anything was built in that particular neighborhood.

 

I drove by again and saw the sign.  It is a new senior living facility.  Kind of a weird location for that type of place.  It will be called Village Green.... no doubt the same FCE off-shoot that built the apartments on Amhearst Dr. behind Beachwood mall which were once called Village Green Apartments (until the first fire) then changed to Verdant at the Village (until the second fire) and is now called Easthaven.  REALLY cheap construction methods are used in these buildings IMO.

 

Having lived at the Village Green, I can vouch for the lousy construction. You could hear everyone, and when you walked across the floor (I was on the third floor), the floor would bounce.

 

And don't get me started on the silverfish. Oh, god, the silverfish.

Does anybody know what is going up just north of the shopping center (and just south of the RR tracks) near the intersection of Green Rd and Euclid Ave?

 

Whatever it is, it has got some significant size to it.

 

I believe it is on the parcel surrounded by Catalpa, Avalon and Roseland. I can't imagine the last time anything was built in that particular neighborhood.

 

I drove by again and saw the sign. It is a new senior living facility. Kind of a weird location for that type of place. It will be called Village Green.... no doubt the same FCE off-shoot that built the apartments on Amhearst Dr. behind Beachwood mall which were once called Village Green Apartments (until the first fire) then changed to Verdant at the Village (until the second fire) and is now called Easthaven. REALLY cheap construction methods are used in these buildings IMO.

 

Having lived at the Village Green, I can vouch for the lousy construction. You could hear everyone, and when you walked across the floor (I was on the third floor), the floor would bounce.

 

And don't get me started on the silverfish. Oh, god, the silverfish.

 

The floor bounced probably because of the open web floor truss system they use.  Basically, instead of solid floor joists, they use a web system of 2x4's nailed together in x-formations.  The 2x4's are then held together by metal gussett plates that have jagged edges and are not cut to fit.  Unfortunately it is not against building code, but probably should be.  That type of construction allows sloppy/negligent electricians to run wires through the floors in no particular fashion and those wires can chaffe against the gussett plates - at least that is what some opine to have happened in the two Village Green buildings that caught on fire in Beachwood.

Sounds like a nice little project...

 

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/12/gcpoms1985yahoocom_the_greater.html

 

Police memorial gets face-lift

Posted by Donna J. Miller/Plain Dealer Reporter December 04, 2008 07:24AM

Categories: Breaking News, Crime, FYI

CLEVELAND -- The Greater Cleveland Peace Officer's Memorial Society is renovating the memorial for fallen officers in downtown Cleveland.

 

The memorial in Huntington Park at Lakeside Avenue and West Third Street opened on May 14, 1993, and is being improved by Milano Monuments and Schill Landscape Design...

This thread was cleaned of all messages that have nothing to do with Random Cleveland Developments. If there is further discussion desired about panajohn's idea for a Jim Brown statue at Cleveland Browns Stadium, please discuss it in the sports section of this forum.

I have a friend who works for Rysar.  While the company as a whole is struggling, the Bluestone development in Cleveland Hts is picking up some steam. 

 

They just sold a couple more units in the condo building which fronts Mayfield.  The condo units are simply framed so the buyer designs the floorplan - non-foundation wall placement, number of bedrooms, etc. - at the time of purchase.  Buyers are also given the option of a free Smart car or a purchase price rebate ($15g's I think).

 

They are also starting on another set of townhomes.  I have been inside the model and they are fairly nice.  Granite countertops, large windows, 1st floor master suite.  2 additional bedrooms and a bathroom are upstairs.  The living room has high ceilings with the stone fire place going all the way up to the top.

 

If I was single, I would consider this development.  However, it would be kind of weird to live on the plot of land where I went to pre-school. 

Plans progress for landmark theater with grant approval

Thursday, December 11, 2008

By Joe Noga [email protected]

West Side Sun News

http://www.cleveland.com/westsidesun/news/index.ssf?/base/news-0/12290062795230.xml&coll=4

 

Supporters of an effort to renovate and restore a landmark theater on Lorain Avenue got a boost Monday when City Council approved a $175,000 grant to purchase the property...

East Cleveland Mayor Eric Brewer has concert venue plan for Forest Hill Park

Posted by Jim Nichols/Plain Dealer Reporter December 15, 2008 07:46AM

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/12/large_forest-hill-park-east-cleveland.jpg

 

Scott Shaw/The Plain Dealer

East Cleveland's portion of historic Forest Hill Park could soon have a new feature to join this landmark lagoon: an entertainment amphitheater.

 

EAST CLEVELAND - Forest Hill Park could have a new feature amid its meadows, wooded ravines and reflecting pond: a 12,000-seat amphitheater. But it's a longshot...

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/12/medium_rockefeller-forest-park-graphic.jpg

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/12/e_cleveland_mayor_has_concert.html

Clearly a slow news day and the Plain Dealer was looking for ANYTHING to fill up space.  If anybody is bored, start a list of the 5,000 reasons this "thing" will never happen and then start another list with reasons why you are happy Brewer is not the mayor of your city.

Here's some info on the new Garden Valley Estates.  Links to the site plan and renderings are there, too.

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http://www.bbcdevelopment.org/html/development/gardenvalley.htm

 

Garden Valley Estates

 

Burten, Bell, Carr Development, Inc. is partnering with the Cuyahoga Metropolitan Housing Authority (CMHA) and Falbo/Penrose on the redevelopment of the Garden Valley Estates, located between Sidaway Avenue and East 79 th Street, from Kinsman Road to Carson Avenue. This five-year, $100 million project calls for the replacement of approximately 628 units of antiquated public housing, only 70% of which had been occupied, dispersed throughout thirty acres with 275 townhomes, seventy-five units of senior housing, and thirty-two for-sale single-family homes.

 

The Garden Valley Estates were built in 1950’s, and have been described by CMHA as “distressed” in quality. Building types are also considered outdated, with amenities that no longer accommodate modern lifestyles. The walk-up apartment-style buildings, which comprise slightly over half of the total number of units, possess safety concerns in their common entrances and unoccupied, unmonitored hallways and stairwells. Because structures were awkwardly situated, nearly ten acres of greenspace are underutilized and possess no meaningful use. As a result, the sentiment of residents has been that “the comprehensive replacement of electrical, plumbing, mechanical systems, windows, doors, finishes, etc. would not render the individual units suitable for meeting the standards of today’s family,” and that the Garden Valley Estates should be razed and rebuilt in their entirety.

 

Phase I, which entails the construction of 81 units of public housing, was commenced by the Garden Valley Demolition Celebration, which took place on July 16, 2008. Phase I construction will be concentrated between Sidaway Avenue and East 71st Street along Kinsman Road.

 

The Garden Valley/Kinsman Neighborhood Master Plan process, which was driven by the input of residents and other community stakeholders over the course of several public meetings, identified townhomes as the prevailing housing style. They desired for each unit to possess its own private outdoor space and closely-located parking. The plan also calls for new-construction single-family homes to be well integrated into the existing street grid where possible and for the physical and social boundaries between public and private housing to be eradicated to establish a sense of inclusion and community. To download the entire Garden Valley/Kinsman neighborhood site plan, please click here. For renderings of the new Garden Valley Estates, please click here.

 

The plan also incorporates a new Anton Grdina preK-8 school, which will be built on the existing site of Port Park at East 71 st Street and Port Avenue beginning in early 2009. While the new school is under construction, the existing Anton Grdina will remain open for classes. More information, including renderings, is available here. The land occupied by the existing building is tentatively planned as a central organizing green.

 

Residents and other community members also propose a community recreation center to be constructed directly east of the Garden Valley Neighborhood House. The Greater Cleveland YMCA is strongly considering fulfilling that community need and is in the fundraising process.

 

The substantial investment in the Garden Valley Estates, Anton Grdina School, and recreation center compliment a plethora of development projects that have been recently completed or are planned for the Garden Valley neighborhood, including the East Central Place, which was completed in 2006 and brought family market-rate homes, single-family lease-to-purchase homes, single-family public housing to Colfax Road and Minnie Avenue; Bridgeport Place, BBC’s new-construction $2.2 million shopping center at Kinsman Road and East 72nd Street opening in 2008; the $5.95 million rehabilitation of Kinsman Road and Woodland Avenue in 2009; $1 million renovation of the Marion Motley Playfields in 2011; $3.65 million replacement of Fire Station No. 26 in 2012; the new headquarters of CMHA to be located at East 80th Street and Kinsman Road; BBC’s Urban Tree Farm concept to be implemented in the northeast corner of East 79th Street and Kinsman Road; and targeted investment in the City of Cleveland-designated Bridgeport Model Block, a program that focuses of the comprehensive physical improvement and social enrichment of Colfax Road.

 

To view the BBC’s Forgotten Triangle Master Plan, which includes additional future plans for the Kinsman Garden Valley neighborhood, please click here.

Looks nice.  What's happening to Rainbow Terrace?  Is it next?

Looks nice. What's happening to Rainbow Terrace? Is it next?

 

Rainbow Terrace is still fairly new.  No news on or future plans for it about which I know.

 

I will try to post the Garden Valley/Kinsman Neighborhood Master Plan if I can get it electronically.  It's phenomenal, and really makes a compelling case for the replacement of Garden Valley Estates.

Greater Cleveland lands more than $25 million in state money for housing issues

 

Posted by jkuehner December 19, 2008 17:25PM

 

COLUMBUS ---The Ohio Department of Development announced Friday $83 million in grants to cities and counties across the state from the Ohio Neighborhood Stabilization Program to buy, demolish or redevelop blighted or foreclosed properties and establish land banks...

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/12/greater_cleveland_lands_more_t.html

Cleveland schools posting was moved to:

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,2658.210.html

The fourth and final installment of the "Cleveland Plus: Turning the Corner" series was held last week at the City Club. Participants in the five-person panel discussion talked about regional economic development initiatives (MP3, 27.7 MB). Dorothy Baunach served as moderator.

 

http://cityclubpodcast.optiem.com/CityClubPodcast-081217.mp3

Since it finally warmed up and the sun decided to shine:

 

 

 

 

There are dudes working on the drop-down scaffolding thingy :).  Ugh, that makes me shudder just thinking about doing that job!

There are dudes working on the drop-down scaffolding thingy :). Ugh, that makes me shudder just thinking about doing that job!

 

Drop-down scaffolding thingy? Do you try to be cute or does it just come naturally to you?

There are dudes working on the drop-down scaffolding thingy :). Ugh, that makes me shudder just thinking about doing that job!

 

Drop-down scaffolding thingy? Do you try to be cute or does it just come naturally to you?

 

I couldn't remember the actual name of it, lol.  I guess I'm just naturally cute then :).

Man, the shadows that fall on the Terminal Tower are sweet.  The gradient shadow that falls on the rounded parts, the deep shadows at the colonades, etc.  Can't wait for all that scaffolding to be off and get it lit up again.

I was over on wade park ave. couple nights ago by the VA and the Botanical Garden I was stunned to see how many large houses are still be kept up! It actually put me in a good mood!

I was over on wade park ave. couple nights ago by the VA and the Botanical Garden I was stunned to see how many large houses are still be kept up! It actually put me in a good mood!

 

Go off of Wade Park and you'll see even more.  It's such an under rated, or discussed area.

I was over on wade park ave. couple nights ago by the VA and the Botanical Garden I was stunned to see how many large houses are still be kept up! It actually put me in a good mood!

 

Go off of Wade Park and you'll see even more. It's such an under rated, or discussed area.

 

Indeed.  It's astounding to me that any property near Rockefeller Park would ever be distressed, yet so many are.  If I could pick one are in Cleveland to target for redevelopment this is it.  Its location is perfect and it already has so much great architecture.

I think that's everywhere, as if your $12 drinks are considered cheap. (snap)

We're in a hotel that sells $200 rooms. Our prices are justified.

 

(on topic) the apartment building on the corner of wade park and ansel looks pretty nice. Anyone have info on that?

That's Wade Chateau.  It is being redeveloped by Famicos Foundation, a nonprofit CDC serving Hough and Glenville.  I think it will be senior housing, though I'm not sure offhand.

Focus for 2009 is rebuilding

Thursday, January 01, 2009

By Ken Prendergast [email protected]

West Side Sun News

http://www.cleveland.com/westsidesun/news/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1230745059323270.xml&coll=4&thispage=2

 

In looking ahead to 2009, one word keeps coming out of Mayor Frank Jackson's mouth: "infrastructure."

 

But he says his emphasis on rebuilding infrastructure isn't due to 2009 being a mayoral election year...

 

FYI - Frangos Group has a new website which has an interesting map showing their holdings in downtown CLV >

http://www.thefrangosgroup.com/properties.html#

 

Also, I did a quick count of parking spaces in downtown CLV, defined as the area btwn E9, W9, Lakeside, & Superior.  I used the DCA's interactive parking map to make this quick count and came up with 9500 parking spots in total.  This does not include the 2000+ spots at Tower City.  Does anyone have a grasp on this number and how it relates to other cities or the number of jobs in this area?

 

Anybody know what the scaffolding going up in front of the former Traveler's Shoppe on Playhouse Square is all about.

""We submitted our urban agenda (to Obama) in February"

 

Did he get the month wrong or is there some process where they already submitted the forms but Obama won't get a chance to look at them until February?  Probably the former.

 

 

""We submitted our urban agenda (to Obama) in February"

 

Did he get the month wrong or is there some process where they already submitted the forms but Obama won't get a chance to look at them until February?  Probably the former.

 

 

Didn't get it wrong.  Last February he submitted his agendas to Obama and Clinton while determining who to endorse.  He decided to endorse Obama, amongst other reasons I'm sure, based on his response.

 

Anybody know what the scaffolding going up in front of the former Traveler's Shoppe on Playhouse Square is all about.

 

I believe as has been mentioned in the playhouse square developments threads that "the traveler's shoppe" and "office resource center", which are actually the same building, is the future home of the KSU urban design collaborative.  They may be starting work on that.

Well, Frangos certainly has control of a lot of parking lots.  Hopefully they can start filling in the gaps in the area south of Prospect.

FYI - Frangos Group has a new website which has an interesting map showing their holdings in downtown CLV >

http://www.thefrangosgroup.com/properties.html#

 

Also, I did a quick count of parking spaces in downtown CLV, defined as the area btwn E9, W9, Lakeside, & Superior.  I used the DCA's interactive parking map to make this quick count and came up with 9500 parking spots in total.  This does not include the 2000+ spots at Tower City.  Does anyone have a grasp on this number and how it relates to other cities or the number of jobs in this area?

 

 

That number seems awfully low considering how many people work downtown (100,000 +/-). I don't believe that Downtown Cleveland has only 10 percent of its workforce driving to work. Instead, I would expect that 90 percent of the workforce is driving.

 

Does this number include all city and private surface lots, the municipal parking lot, plus city and private parking decks?

^I think the issue is Guv's definition of downtown- his number doesn't sound so off for just the small box he describes.

 

Guv, any reason why you didn't want to count the areas south of Superior or east of E9th?  That's where the largest garages are (the two Gateway garages probably have 2-4k spaces just between them) as well as several large lots.  As for comparability to other cities...it would be a hard comparison for which you might want to control for the types of uses each downtown offer (office v. retail. v. residential v. univeristy v. theater).  Which would of course be a huge undertaking.

Creative deals finding favor in real estate

By STAN BULLARD

4:30 am, January 5, 2009

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20090105/SUB1/301059986/1071&Profile=1071

 

With an unprecedented financial crisis rewriting the rules for business, Northeast Ohio commercial real estate owners, brokers and lawyers are looking for ways to sell or develop properties as real estate loans remain scarce or terms are too tough to consummate property sales...

 

Quite a bit of progress on the Terminal Tower's northeast facade - this section hasn't been illuminated yet but I'm guessing they're waiting until they have all the scaffolding down on the opposite side:

 

Nice!

Looking good!!

Guv, any reason why you didn't want to count the areas south of Superior or east of E9th?

 

Well, I suppose it's because I didn't have the time.  I was bored and I found the DCA's interactive parking map and just started calculating....

 

Since I got myself into this........some more comprehensive numbers:

 

 

The area North of the Shoreway ≈ 5500 parking spots

The area bounded by W9-E9, Lakeside-Superior ≈ 9500

The area bounded by E9-E18, Superior-Carnegie ≈ 9940

The area bounded by E9-E18, Superior-Lakeside ≈ 4200

The area bounded by Ontario-E9, Superior-Carnegie ≈ 3400 (does not include Gateway Garages, not listed)

The are bounded by Huron-Ontario, Superior-Huron ≈ 2900 (included 2050 @ TowerCity)

TOTAL in DOWNTOWN AREA ≈ 35,500

 

Big Question > How MANY jobs now exist in dwntwn area bounded by W9-E18, Marginal-Carnegie?

 

Source:  DCA Parking Map @ http://www.downtownclevelandalliance.com/parking/

CLV.com shows 157 lots from Cuyahoga River to E. 21

 

I know my numbers are off, but likely provide a good estimate.  DCA has the numbers, likely categorized by use/type/purpose/etc  If anyone succeeds in getting a spreadsheet, please share!